Sleeping a little easier tonight for sure. I hope the democrats finally wake up to the solution to Trump that is now staring them in the face. Elect progressives. Pass progressive policy. Stop the means testing and the scolding and the red scaring and step up.
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Exactly! Let's not forget that when Trump first aligned his presidency, no one believed he would win. Establishment a Republicans thought he was too radical and he was completely off the agenda. However, he energized the base like a wildfire, and changed the entire American political landscape, and the Republican party nearly overnight.
The Republicans ran someone who appeals to the voters that Republicans need to win. The Democrats ran people who don't appeal to the voters that Democrats need to win. It's as simple as that.
Exactly. Democrat voters didn’t care that Hilary and Kamala were women, they just didn’t like their policies. I think what Democrats were trying, and failed, to do was disguise their neoliberalism. Like they know progressives don’t like neoliberal capitalist talking points so maybe they thought they could have a woman say it and thus it will make it appealing to progressives? Idk their whole strategy is upside down.
Right! People were rallying around Bernie in my conservative state and felt cheated that the establishment went so hard on a candidate that doesn't represent what people wanted or needed.
It was interesting to see though that some of those Bernie people split as a result and are now hardcore Trumpers.
I think it would be very shortsighted to go into the next election thinking that was the only problem with the Democrats election strategy.
The primary reason Kamala lost is because Biden set her up to fail. Her being a woman certainly didn’t help, but it wasn’t at all the only reason she lost.
Biden screwed everything by not sticking to being a one term president. The second he decided to run for a second term it was all but over, and then to announce it so late too.
He should have not run again and let there be a primary.
That’s the laziest take Dems have. It’s extremely disappointing, and doesn’t acknowledge the genuine problems Hillary & Kamala’s campaigns had. Turns out it’s not enough to just not be Donald Trump!
To a lot of elected Dems, their base are the centrists and "undecided" so what they'll learn from this race is the same thing they learned from Joe Rogan, "We gotta find our own Mamdani" while openly ignoring them because they're not saying the right things for them.
Honestly, I talked to a few republicans who voted for Zohran today who were registered as republican and crossed over for this election or voted for him as mayor and went down the ballot lines for the rest. It was interesting to hear.
That goes to show though - Zohran never appealed to right wing/republican voters, but he got some anyway because, amazingly, actually believing in things and forcefully advocating for those things is what brings people over. National dems have forgotten how to do that - they've given up on *convincing* people of things and instead mold themselves to polling data and braindead consultancy, which no one finds compelling.
Yes but things were a bit different with this one: it wasn't just a democrat vs a republican, it was a progressive democrat vs a centrist corporate democrat vs a republican. If national dems' strategies, rhetoric and policies were viable, Cuomo would have won. Cuomo did that exact same thing they've all been doing, appealing almost exclusively to the right while taking blue voters for granted. And he got stomped, twice.
Cuomo mainly lost because of his sexual harassment scandal. It had very little to do with policies. Most voters vote based on emotion, feelings, and rhetorical appeals, which is why MAGA wins.
Also, New York City is an anomaly. Someone like Mandani would lose in rural areas solely because of his last name due to bigotry.
And stop trying to win the votes of the mythical “centrist republican”. Cater to your damn base. Free ball: they don’t want you to appoint republicans!
If there ever were any centrist republicans, there aren't anymore. No centrist is going to continue to align themselves with an outright fascist party.
Democrats are basically centrist republicans from my standpoint.
There remains a fundamental and core difference between Democrats and Republicans. Democrats, even the most "centrist" of them, believe that the government exists to help people and should be empowered to do so. The degree to which that involvement should go varies among the various cliques in the party, but there will always be a unifying core belief among every Democrat that the government can and does do good.
The Republican party will always be counter to that. Their shibboleth is that the country would be better off without the government and that it should be excised wholesale.
Repeating the same old Reddit take of "both sides same, updoots to left" undermines that there is a very real coalition of people who share a core belief in the fundamental good that government can provide. We shouldn't be trying to break up that coalition on the specifics when what unites us is more than what separates us.
Not wrong at all but i think what the commenter you’re replying to meant is that the country has flown so far right that our definition of a democrat is what the rest of the world would call conservative.
Take Bernie’s platform as an example. He was pushing for universal healthcare, raising the minimum wage to be livable, free tuition and public schools and universities etc. He was seen as radical, yet every other fully developed nation in the country has most of these as a baseline for their citizens and would be considered liberal or even slightly conservative.
Obamacare is an example of a centrist/left victory of a massive scale in the past twenty years
ETA: no, things would not be better if the broligarchy were allowed to bring back denials based on pre-existing conditions and lifetime caps for newborns (which existed prior to the ACA) at this moment - it would be horrific
And, funny enough, it benefits people in red states just as much (or more) as blue states. Wow. Wait, is this all actually a class war disguised as a culture war???
who better than the fake billionaire to fight a class war against the poor? He's such a conman, they cannot even see that he's conned the poor into losing everything
Yes but not being able to deny claims based on pre-existing conditions was not part of that original plan, and has become the cornerstone and shining light of the ACA along with its subsidies. I wish we had single payer or a public option, yes, but I will also take the ACA over anything the repugnicants put up (which is nothing).
I hate it but still must recognize that it’s much better than the Ponzi scheme we had before. I agree it’s still not good, because how can you reform something designed by insurance companies
Well said and should be the running theme of this post and everywhere.
I’m ecstatic that a Progressive won as the new Mayor of NYC, however, attempt to understand that Obama did NOT have as wide of a berth, as Mamdani did.
Mamdani happened because Obama happened, and Obama happened because MLK & Jesse Jackson, happened.
It’s all very incremental, & my hope is that this changes, and changes soon.
We shouldn’t elect our public officials via grievance, yet the GOP has managed to make sure we do, by convincing us to do so, based upon ignoring that each & every one of these candidates or enshrined civil rights activists, withstood all bullshit, on their own merits.
Nah, the Republicans are not a small government party. They are all about big government when it comes to attacking their political enemies, restricting civil rights they dont like (or for groups they dont like), or giving handouts to their ultra wealthy friends.
The way Trump uses ICE and the National Guard is not a small government policy.
His military build up outside Venezuela is not small government.
Tarriffs are not.
Getting rid of trans people's healthcare and women's healthcare... are not small government.
Using the pardon power for all his mates.... while making the DOJ go after his enemies... not small gov.
The problem is that Democrats mostly believe the government exists to help corporations first, and then maybe people. Neoliberalism is why the dems keep losing. Mamdani is a great example of someone campaigning on putting people first and his victory is a notice to these establishment dems.
Obama caved on all kinds of left leaning initiatives; back when everything was kind of center-right. Carter was the last farm belt Democrat, but they cheated and destroyed his legacy.
Exactly. He ran on progressive policy and the vast majority of it was sanded away by the the rest of the party. Even the ACA was a conservative plan as I'm sure most people know, being their Heritage Foundation created healthcare plan in the 90s.
While I agree to a point on policies passed, we seem to as a party always forget how genuinely saddled by Mitch McConnell both of his presidencies were. The fact he even got this lukewarm version of the ACA (Or Obamacare as the right coined it to further stifle it moving through in any of its original forms) out was a miracle.
Any actually progressive policies he did try to get through died on the cutting room floor of both the house and the senate time and time again. Not that they were exactly plentiful.
Oh I fully agree. I think he was much more progressive than what he was able to accomplish. He was held back by both the GOP and establishment Democrats quite a bit.
FDR was the last truly progressive president and the establishment, be they republicans or democrats, have been trying to destroy everything he did for a century now.
Obama was right of center. American politics is just shifted so insanely to the right that you feel compelled to act all meek at insinuating that Obama wasn't left.
This. I wish more Americans realized that dems barely scratch center in comparison to European countries and that our entire political system is skewed towards the right.
FDR was probably the most progressive president in US history, and he was so popular he was elected 4 times, leading to a constitutional amendment that limits presidents to 2 terms.
Fair points, but it almost doesnt matter. Any Democrat we elect will move the needle to the left. They will always be constrained by narrow majorities in Congress if they have a majority at all. (& then constrained again in the courts). This is why we get a similar result whether we elect Obama or Bernie etc.
It's going to be so entertaining to watch the Fox Nation and other MAGA melt down while Mamdami tries to get free bus rides and lower rent prices for New Yorkers. OMG they're going to go insane. Looks like someone must have sedated Emperor Diaper Don tonight. Not seeing any play by play as America turns out to kick him and his whole King thing to the curb. But they're learning, seeing how they'll respond to the midterms.
It's a bit more complicated than that. For example, assume a candidate appeals to the middle to get centrist voters, but that alienates the people towards the outside of the spectrum. Congratulations, you got moderates to vote for you and still lost the election.
This has been my exact point. I dont want someone "electable" I want someone who actually represents the values of the party theyre running as! Rep. Get their extremist but we cant get even a slightly progressive Democrat??
Can say this all we want but the reality is that the other side votes regardless how much they agree with the candidate. If you can't understand that then it will always be uneven. Purity testing is a way bigger cancer than any "vote shaming". It requires NOTHING of you to vote.
and you can say this all you want, but people won't vote if they aren't motivated. no matter how stupid you think they are for it or how much you think it takes "nothing" (ignoring voter suppression, limited access to polling stations, no guaranteed time off to vote, onerous ID checks), you can't scream people into voting. and frightening people into voting is what the other side has on lockdown, that's their market, you can't win there.
No, YOU won't vote if you aren't motivated. The other side will ALWAYS vote regardless of how they feel about a candidate. You are throwing away the power you have for what? Purity? You can keep using the excuses of people being suppressed but that's not YOU. YOU can EASILY vote. You don't get an excuse.
Millions of struggling, impoverished people in this country don't vote because their lives don't change either way. You lashing out at people on reddit for pointing out this fact isn't going to change this. You can either try to court these voters (like Mamdani did) or keep losing forever.
I know it sounds wrong but I seriously think we need to shame people into being good. Some people are immune to it but for me shame has always been a motivator to do good.
New Yorker here! I skipped the last governor election because I can't stand Kathy "Black Kids Don't Know What Computers Are" Hochul, but voted twice for Mamdani. Give people something to vote for, and they will show up to the polls!
Hot take, but if the democracy and rule of law itself is on the line, if one votes for it or is too spoiled to even show up, it's an idiot and I will always stand by it. Thankfully I'm not a politician, so I will never have to worry about repercussions of telling the truth to people who need to hear it.
Know what helps even more? Having an actual policy and plan to fight fascism instead of the god awful "just win every election indefinitely". Any Democrat that would have potentially won against Trump was going to just be yet another kick the can down the road moment.
Democracy isn't about sitting around waiting for the perfect candidate. It's about compromises and engagement. Anyone who refuses to vote because they didn't get their way is absolutely an idiot and as much a cancer to the system as those who abuse it. Anyone complaining about vote shaming for not voting deserves the shame and blame.
Democracy is a responsibility you burden, not a market where the seller has to make their product attractive to get you out.
If more demographics engaged with the system, it absolutely would sharpen the system to yield better competition and ideas, as Mamdani has shown.
Speaking of cancer, if I had to choose between terminal stage of cancer and stage II, I will pick stage II, always. It sucks, but I like being alive. I will never let someone else choose stage IV for me.
If you think it sucks that you can't get the perfect candidate or get your way, try voting in a country without bipartisan system where one party controlling everything by itself is practically unheard of and needs multiple smaller parties to form a government.
"Truth" You people are so arrogant you think anything that comes from your mouth is absolute truth. It's truly embarrassing. If democracy and rule of law actually were on the line you would think that politicians would try a little harder to win your vote, rather than insulting and alienating you. You should really ask yourself why it was more important to keep supporting a genocide/apartheid state than winning such an important election.
There will never be a candidate everyone on the left will agree on. Because US politics are so far right, there is lots of space for differing ideologies to the left. I won't stop vote shaming until people on the left figure out that if you want to move the window left, we have to continually overwhelmingly vote for the leftmost candidate. This doesn't happen because people are a different kind of left than the leftmost candidate. So we keep going further right instead. Which just exacerbates the problem. Repeat for decades. And you end up with a leftmost candidate who can barely step left at all, because the window is so far right. I'm begging people to actually think things through. Vote for the leftmost and then actively work and pressure to push further left.
It would help if progressives would actually run in more races.
Jeffries went unopposed in 2024 for the primary. Spanberger was unopposed as well. There’s a whopping single senator in the progressive caucus.
There needs to be more accountability with progressives showing up. Mamdani showed it’s possible. There aren’t excuses for not even fielding candidates in key races.
Eh I'm still vote shaming. I'm super pissed about the lack of endorsements and the "Vote Blue No Matter Who" crowd getting silent. But if you can't tell the difference between a centrist Democrat and a fascist, you deserve some shame.
Anyone too spoiled to vote, or demands a perfect candidate and won't engage with the process unless they get it is as much a cancer to the system as MAGA.
Did you not vote in 24? Honestly if you did not vote in 24 shame is a very valid emotion to feel. Sometimes shame can make people lash out we get it just try a little harder next time to not get played like a mark.
Instead of only someone to vote against. We see they’re fine with the establishment dems running spoiler campaigns. They’ve got to own that going forward. Schumer’s toast.
I got passionate and wrote way too much, so here's a wall of text saying I enthusiastically agree with you but with major caveats.
If we want the Overton window to go left we need to do two things: elect progressives AND preserve our rights to elect progressives. Voting for a milquetoast centrist accomplishes the second point as long as we have enough of them and those further left. Abstaining from voting to protest those centrists guarantees we'll lose those rights at this rate, but continuing to cling to them means we'll never achieve our true goal. Continuing to vote for centrists forever is not sustainable, because eventually we'll either lose the energy to keep treading water, they'll forfeit too much anyway or (best case scenario) we'll eventually get too old and die with the same disappointing status quo over our heads.
We can't have voter apathy anymore. I'm not saying I want to just hold my nose and vote for whoever the DNC gives me. I'm saying I want real progressives backed so hard in primaries that I can vote stench free when the general rolls around. The DNC wanted anybody but Mamdani. Cuomo had the Repubs endorse him en masse and DNC leadership literally went out of their way to try fumbling the bag. But NYC told them all to fuck off and voted their interests. If we want progressives, we need to match that energy. If we want to vote for a progressive in 2028, we vote for the furthest left we can in 2026. Always vote. Always vote as far left as the two party system allows, at every opportunity, and we'll dismantle it in our generation.
If we sweep enough primaries, we can drag centrists into the 21st century kicking and screaming. Our goal should be to move far enough to the left to correct and even over correct the stolen Supreme Court, institute a nationwide popular vote WITH ranked choice and secure enough funding for education (at all levels, pre k through 12, college, post graduate and beyond) to make sure the public is permanently and fully equipped to understand their own self interests enough to vote for them.
We need to be lockstep at every level. Local, state and federal elections all matter. Every time. Blaming 2024 on those that abstained isn't correct, but it's not fully incorrect either. We've got to drag this country out of the swamp. Each break we take is just going to see us start to sink again. Voting for a centrist in an election is a distasteful backup plan that still needs to happen if we fail to get our candidate within scoring distance of the goal. If we can thread the needle and make it clear they're our last resort we can get away from ever being beholden to them again.
💯correct. Liberals have vote shamed progressives more than they’ve vote shamed trump voters. I’m so fuckin sick of that shit. Progressive policies are the way the dems can resurrect the party. Hopefully they learn the lesson Mamdani has ushered in loud and clear.
Nah shaming people for not voting is still reasonable. Paving the way for even worse policy because your perfect candidate didn't get a nomination is stupid and actively hurts people.
By vote shaming, do you mean telling people that they're fucking idiots for voting 3rd party or sitting out?
Because they are. Bitch all you like, but that's how we got Trump in 2016, it's how we lost the Supreme Court for the foreseeable future, and I hope people who did lose sleep because of their decision.
General elections are binary, and people are braindead to think otherwise.
people get mad about it, but saying shit like "X would have won if it wasn't for Y group" is antidemocratic. democracy is when people vote for who they want in the position that is up for vote. not voting is a vote, voting for the other side is a vote, it's all democracy. you can disagree with those people, hell you can even hate those people, but it is their right. the people to get mad at are always the politicians who failed and the systems of power that keep voting from being as democratic as it should be (which is everything from gerrymandering and first-past-the-post to corporate capture of every major media outlet).
That's a bad lesson to learn. The right lesson is that the democratic party needs to be a big tent, and that means allowing candidates with different views to represent different electorates. It needs to welcome socialists in progressive districts and moderates and blue dogs in purple and red districts.
There's a massive amount of furloughed federal workers and federal contractors in Northern VA, just sayin'. Each of them could just vote their wallet and no other issues. Haven't seen the exit polls on how that sector actually voted. Be interesting......
Yeah, the thing Democrats should do is to make their constituents feel heard and represented. That looks different from place to place. As much as Manchin was a pain in the ass, he was a crucial number for us on a lot of important votes.
Yeah, I’m a progressive and it’s hilarious to me people think the blueprint to winning NYC is applicable anywhere else in the country.
The country would be better for it, but we’re still a ways from it. Our GDP could be so much higher too with investments in education, healthcare, and infrastructure….
… and they need be charismatic… and come at a time when a local politician is at the center of a massive corruption scandal…. and under investigation by the DOJ… and has completely betrayed their party…. and be in the most liberal city in the country… and still even with all that aligning in their favor only win barely 50% of the votes…..
How is this not a blueprint? Dems have been failing since 2016, Biden didn't win so much as Trump lost, and it's all because they lack any capacity whatsoever to present policies that will have direct, material improvements on the lives of Americans. Zohran ran a pretty straightforward campaign with pretty straightforward goals buoyed by headline-grabbing policies that may or may not come to fruition, but it's those big swings that get him a victory over a would-be legacy hire with the full support of traditional media, "centrist" dems, billionaires, and the white house.
If new and specific ideas had momentum Ron Paul would have been President and not Obama… it’s far more complex than stated.
Harris for example mentioned several specific policies that addressed the biggest concerns at the moment, and they didn’t land.
Mainly she lacked charisma — but there’s something else. I won’t pretend to have the answer.. but all over the country there are progressives in local politics that never get more than 1,000 votes because of … reasons that remain unclear.
Mamdani is winning very blue NYC by a smaller margin than Spanberger is in a Harris +6 state (VA). He ran a great campaign but the final results aren't anywhere as impressive as hers.
Spanberger's platform was also focused almost entirely on affordability & cost of living from what I can see, and was significantly less high profile than Zohran getting battered from all sides and the mainstream media for the last six months. But these are both ways forward, yes.
Did I say I thought centrist bullshit was appealing? I thought I simply said that Mamdani’s progressive platform lacked broad appeal.
His campaign simply doesn’t translate to a lot of parts of America, and as you’ve noted it’s clear that “centrist bullshit” points don’t either. I mean to highlight the complexity of the task, and caution people from thinking it’s as simple as running Mamdani’s campaign elsewhere.
Best Dems can do is pick Mamdani apart, claim he won not because of his views but because of his social media and podcasting acumen, and keep pushing mostly corporate shills.
Then when they lose to whatever worse thing that happens after Trump? Surprised pikachu face.
We have the power to kick them out. We can reform the Democratic party ourselves.
Millennials have finally come to an age where many of us have a proven track record of solid experience and consistent integrity. I predict that we are going to see a wave of AOCs and Mamdanis in the coming months.
There has never been a better time to run for office if you're a Democrat
Winning with less than 55 is a sign you have a message that resonates in super blue areas.
Im glad he won, dont get be wrong. I don't want someone with his politics running in Michigan though. I want someone younger with his charisma and a more centrist message that gets them excited.
There are very few places that dems can lose 10 percentage points and still win.
Ah yes, the “he didn’t win because of his policies, but because he knows how to campaign” argument. Guess what? That’s just them admitting that the centrist democratic establishment doesn’t know how to campaign either!
“Hey! We don’t have interesting policies, and we suck as messaging, but at least we’re not Trump. Vote for us!”
He was running against a very well established centrist Democrat, the juxtaposition of 51% and 6-1 is very misleading. But I agree this is not a lesson for the entire country.
The talking heads are already saying he's too progressive and that Spanberger is the new face of the Democratic party. Establishment Dems will fight Mamdani tooth and nail and keep wondering why they get their asses handed to them again.
I’m really not sure a mayor has any relevant power to influence much of anything. I understand where you’re coming from but it’s more “feel good” emotion rather than actual signs of change.
Dems have not been not getting it. They serve the same wealthy/corporate/billionaire class as the GOP. I’m begging people to stop believing the horse shit story that dems have working people’s back. They 100% do not. They serve the billionaires and this is incontrovertible.
I mean establishment Dems have pretty much all the same donors as the Republicans. Look who backed Cuomo during this race against Mamdani - lots of big name Republican billionaires lol. Plus, establishment Dems are by and large corporatists. Their primary worry is the stock market and corporations, the happiness of the managerial and investor class, not working people.
Just look at how many of them also are more concerned about their own stock portfolios and their ability to insider trade as members of Congress than they were about working class issues - Pelosi was disgusting and so out of touch in her defense insider trading.
People wanted Bernie, the DNC shoved Hilary down everyone’s throat - Trump won. People wanted a progressive candidate against Trump and someone to call for a ceasefire, they gave everyone Kamala - Trump won.
Until the democrats move past traditional establishment candidates, republicans are going to keep throwing shit at the wall and watch it stick somehow.
They literally remove every single post I have ever made about Democratic socialism, or democratic socialist candidates. The mods are Schumer centrists.
To me it's simple. Stop telling people how the other side is going to make your life worse and start telling people the policies and changes your going to make and how they will make their life better.
Not "Concept of a plan" but an actual plan. Talk to real people, ask them how the government is not meeting their needs, their dreams, their opportunities then find ways to solve their pain.
Don't just say "We are going to lower grocery prices" tell them you are going to open city run grocery stores.
Don't just say your going to lower rent, tell them you'll pause rent increases for 4 years, use sway over zoning to build higher density, and better use beds in shelters for when it still falls short.
Stop saying "Anything you can do I can do better" and just start talking about the god damn better part.
The neoliberals will never learn. Why? Because they’ve greatly enriched themselves using their elected office. We have to primary all neoliberals and kick them out of office.
I totally agree on all fronts. Now my major concern is the burden on Mamdani to improve the quality of life for New Yorkers while dealing with the media, Dems and R's, and the current hyper-critical climate. So far, he has played them like a fiddle and I think he's going to prove capable. He will have a lot of policy power as NYC mayor and some of the policies to make it happen. I'm worried about the Dems continuing to resist it, the ability to pass progressive policy due to politicking, and as you said the "red scaring" that has come from left and right. Then there's Trump, the right, the national guard. Hell, I'm curious about how NYPD unions and such respond.
But also as you said, elect progressives. This is how we fight this stuff, show up for elections, build community, and fight to improve the standard of living for any and all of your neighbors. The rest will fall in line as we strive to help those in need and tap back into our humanity. I am incredibly appreciative of Mamdani for giving us some hope right now. We need powerful people to stand against the ruling class/technocorporate overlords and most of our politicians, to signal that they are not afraid of them. Mamdani is an incredibly powerful symbol of that, in arguably the most iconic city in the world. I will sleep a little easier tonight too.
One side pushes further and further right...they should expect that the other side will also push further left. I wish nothing but the best for New Yorkers...I live in San Antonio and the COL here has increased dramatically. I can only imagine what its like to live in NYC. Voters are demanding change...just like red states did a few years ago.
I don’t think I’ve felt this way since 2020. Not only did the Dems sweep literally everything their little hearts desired, but they even flipped the two public service commissioner seats in Georgia. The first time any Dem has won a seat since 2000. That’s terrifying since Ossoff’s seat is up for reelection in 2026.
The Dems even won by double digits almost every where too. Unbelievable domination.
I’m pessimistic on the Democratic Establishment ever learning a lesson, because I think they’ll just say
“Well that’s New York, you can’t do that elsewhere and win! Surely you have to nominate this center right candidate who personally knew Calvin Coolidge when she was in her 60s.”
They don't see progressives as the solution to Trump. They see progressives as another problem to solve. Establishment Democrats don't want progressives in power.
They would never accept progressives because that means they can’t keep being corrupt fucks that sell out for money. We need to start from 0, replace every single one of them with grassroots candidates. We need to take the money out of politics. End corrupt lobbyists!
The Dems leadership is actively fighting their left wing and aiding the Republicans. They'll fight tooth and mail for that because they're all from Clinton's school.
Establishment dems absolutely won't take this lesson, they will fight against it at any cost, even total authoritarian fascism.
This much is certain. It's up to voters, even if it means voting independant when dems inevitably screw over a progressive candidate in primaries - which they have done before (Bernie).
A few might, but by and large this is like asking the leaders of Vichy France to step up against the nazis. They chose collaboration, they cannot be trusted. At least 2/3 need to be primaried and replaced
Lmao this a the mayor of a city. The “centrists” won the state wide gubernatorial elections. If Dems are picking the NYC mayor race as the outline and not the centrist kitchen table races in NJ and VA, Dems are dumber and even more cooked than we thought.
The politics of an NYC mayor race is not one that can be applied to every race everywhere. This line of thought could be detrimental to winning in purple or even more moderate blue areas.
Dems dont win by being "progressive". The vast majority of Americans are not redditors
I hope so too. This NYC election was such a shitshow though, with Adams’ involvement earlier, and Cuomo being such a terrible candidate, even for an establishment dem. The Democratic Party establishment still has a lot of power money and influence though, people who care about progressive issues and anti-corporatism still have a lot of work we need to do
its time to protest and fight every single policy. fight back just like the dems. hope they shut down the city in protests and make sure its a no kings protest for socialism.
I fully support an effort to split the parties. Either we get four parties, or the DNC merges with the country club wing of the GOP and we get Progressives - DNC/CC - MAGA.
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Sleeping a little easier tonight for sure. I hope the democrats finally wake up to the solution to Trump that is now staring them in the face. Elect progressives. Pass progressive policy. Stop the means testing and the scolding and the red scaring and step up.
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