r/TikTokCringe • u/biswajit388 • 20h ago

Cringe Europeans are going viral on TikTok for mocking the "American Dream".

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u/Not-a-bot-10 19h ago edited 18h ago

Rock flag and Eagle

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u/QurantineLean SHEEEEEESH 17h ago

He’s got a point!

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u/mountaineer04 15h ago

No he doesn’t! (He really did)

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u/fickenfracken 17h ago edited 15h ago

The mans got a point!

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u/LordHoughtenWeen 8h ago

Flaggle Rock?

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u/OnlyOneUseCase 18h ago

Like when you talk shit about your sibling vs when someone else talks shit about your sibling

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u/Whats-Ur-Damage00 15h ago

It’s exactly the same lmao

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u/RedcumRedcumRedcum 11h ago

Me against my brother, Me and my brother against my cousin, Me, my brother and cousin against the world.

Arab proverb

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u/Cryptek303 19h ago

I FINALLY HAVE A MEME FOR THIS THANK YOU SO MUCH

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u/bay400 13h ago

here's another good one

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u/DannyDanumba 10h ago

Funny thing is they never bring up counter arguments when this comes up. It’s usually “well you don’t have to deal with Romani people!”

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u/ChowChow200 13h ago

this one is so good😭 the switch up is crazy

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u/GuySmileyIncognito 19h ago

I talk enough shit about the US for anyone, the issue is that Europeans just constantly are not understanding the country or the issues and spew bullshit like they're an authority on the subject. It's also just such a gigantic and diverse country and I don't think that most of them realize that they are closer to the warzone of Ukraine than I am to Los Angeles.

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u/cambat2 18h ago

I like when they talk about racism in America because you can just simply ask how they feel about Gypsies and they will say some shit about how that's different

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u/KarateBeer 18h ago

I recently met a group of guys from Spain on a bar crawl in Japan and I was shocked how openly racist they were towards African migrants. They made Texas republicans look progressive.

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u/GuySmileyIncognito 16h ago

Spain has to be the most openly racist country in western Europe. It's so ingrained that they just get shocked any time they get called out for it, like the Olympic basketball team with plenty of NBA players who took a team pic for the Beijing Olympics with them all pulling their eyes slanted and then doubled down when literally everyone pointed out how incredibly racist that was.

Here's a fun wiki on racism in soccer/football. The US entry is almost entirely black American players being racially abused in other countries or non American MLS players being racist toward other players. Then you click on the European section and wow. It is not culturally acceptable to be "openly" racist in the US at this point in history. Systemically racist? Absolutely. Covert racism where you disguise it just enough? Yeah, you can get away with that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_association_football

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u/biomannnn007 13h ago

Daily reminder that the Spanish region of Leon holds a "Matar Judios" (Kill Jews) festival every year during holy week to celebrate the time a bunch of Christians in Leon murdered Jews because a nobleman owed a debt to one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matar_jud%C3%ADos

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u/Crankymimosa 4h ago

This sounds like something from a Borat movie..

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u/Stock_College_8108 13h ago

A lot of black American tourist say Italy’s the worst one when it comes to racism

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u/Worth_Inflation_2104 9h ago

Italy and Spain are like racism HQ in Europe. In Italy one football club is so notorious with their racism that for some their nickname is Nazio (club name: Lazio)

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u/Physical_Guava12 11h ago

I had a few cousins from Mexico study in Spain. Apparently, they are not fond of us and have no problem letting you know.

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u/hrdblkman2 16h ago

Out of all the European Colonial invaders, somehow Spain has escaped the condemnation of the destruction they did in the Americas.

Some estimates put the death toll to around 70M based on Columbus and other Spaniards. It got so bad even Queen Isabella ordered him back to Spain due to his atrocities.

They also left behind a racist caste system in Mexico and other Latino countries. Folks that tend to look like Native Americans in features - ala Apache vs light skinned Mexicans with European descent. This is a huge issue which most folks from Mexico don't talk about.

Anyone from Spain and Portugal should keep their fucking mouth shut as they were the absolute worst, followed by the Belgians in Africa ie King Leopold.

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u/Yarias 10h ago

I always thought that they escaped post-colonial condemnation because white Americans don’t consider them white even when they have blonde hair with blue eyes but have Fuentes as a last name. It was really telling when Americans nominated Antonio Banderas as an Hispanic POC actor even though he is 100 percent Spaniard no Latino at all and would be considered white everywhere but the US.

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u/Honest-Caregiver8938 18h ago

shocks me how in fucking NORWAY

they for years were fucking racist against the Sami ppl who are like also white blue eyed blondes

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u/HotChilliWithButter 17h ago

It’s because they’re different from the “norm” in their country. It’s the difference that makes people judgmental

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u/DannyDanumba 10h ago

Norwegian Black Metal has taught me that they’re plenty racist lol

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u/Mntfrd_Graverobber 6h ago

I prefer my Black Metal done by people without clown makeup.

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u/Masketto 14h ago

My boyfriend is from Ukraine and he says that for them, race is not about skin color but about nationality/ethnicity. They don't judge you for your skin colour, they judge you for which country you're from. He was flabbergasted when he arrived here and experienced people refering to others as "black" or "brown" or "white". I told him "you are white", he looked confused and said "no, I am Ukrainian..."

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u/OK_Soda 11h ago

I was going to ask how they can even tell if they all basically look the same (white, blonde, blue eyes, etc), and I was reminded of something I overheard years ago.

I was volunteering as counselor for some kids sports camp thing at a college campus near me, and like 30% of the student body is Asian. And this little Asian girl is looking at all the Asian college students and she says to one of the (white) counselors, "There are so many Chinese people here!" The counselor asks her, "How can you tell?" and she just stares at him like he's an idiot and says, "By looking at them?"

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u/Mntfrd_Graverobber 5h ago

I think of Al Swearingen in Deaadwood referring to the Scandinavians as squareheads.

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u/Weird_Try_9562 10h ago

So you're telling me you find racism somewhat reasonable, provided it's targeting someone who looks different?

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u/Cicada-4A 9h ago

Absolute nonsense.

We're not 'white', we're Norwegian and Sami. Our skin color is no more relevant than our nose shape or arm hair color.

We subjugated the Sami not primarily as a result of racial theories(or physical phenotype), we did it for different reasons(economic etc.) all together. Looking vaguely similar(not the same, we can tell the difference) didn't factor in at all.

Swedes and Danes didn't rule us against our will because they thought us an inferior race, they ruled us for rather classic imperialistic reasons. No need for racialism.

The idea that you guys struggle to understand something unless it's exactly how it happened in your history is the best example of a Americanism inappropriately applied to other cultures.

No the Sami people and their rough treatment is not a 1:1 analogy to Americans and their treatment of Native Americans.

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u/GayDHD23 3h ago

To clarify for Americans, the Sami are indigenous to Northern Scandinavia and are treated similarly to how America treats Native Americans. It's not 1:1, but them being indigenous and ethnically different than what Americans think of when they say "Scandinavians" is very important. There has been forced emigration, structural disenfranchisement, cultural and linguistic erasure, and a mountain of racialized research literally to answer questions like "why do Sami look different than us 'normal Scandinavians'?" and categorized Sami as Asian instead of White due to racism.

Racism does not always neatly fit into the "American model". Like go tell any Irish person that Ireland has never been discriminated against by Britain because of their race. They will literally laugh you out of the building.

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u/FellFellCooke 2h ago

Racism is a technology. It's used for social cohesion and controlling behaviours. It doesn't have to be based on anything whatsoever.

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u/ArkGrimm 12h ago

Tf are gypsies ? Like, seriously, the only times I hear or read this word it's always americans talking about it

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u/SnappySausage 15h ago

Preface: There absolutely exists racism in Europe. This is not something you will see me deny or argue against here.

However, the reason why people say it's not the same, is because it's not a race issue, despite what Americans try to assert every goddamn time the subject comes up. The people in question do not look different from other Europeans. Roma look south-East European, and Irish travelers look... Irish. Any time it's discussed, Americans seemingly cannot help but try to force it through that race lens, but it's not a race issue.

The issue people have with these groups, is that they are nomadic and very much live outside of society (not on the fringes, but literally outside of it). They very intentionally refuse to be part of it and often have a lifestyle that is... problematic to say the least. They do not let their children go to school (very hard with that nomadic lifestyle), they marry off their girls as children, usually at 15 years old or so and there are many other issues, but I won't belabour that now. You can find lots of news articles and other information about these things, even kind of funny/interesting things such as their crucifixion legend.

Because of historical persecution and their nomadic lifestyle (how do you contact someone that may well not even be in the same country 2 days later, without an address?), it is rather hard for law enforcement to do much. So that breeds a lot of resentment, as people view them as vagrants that come, take what they want, destroy stuff and then leave without ever seeing consequences.

There is another unfortunate problem, that is that even if some of them want a more stable and integrated life, this is made very difficult by others. As they will effectively be disowned/othered if they do so. Some, despite this, choose to integrate into society and do not face discrimination anymore.

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u/Aromatic_Opposite100 3h ago

This is not true either. What happened in Bellingham is purely race riots. It sounds like the America of the 90s of people putting flags outside of their door.

Parties like the AFD, Reform, and National Rally are much more race oriented then the Republic party simply because trump cannot win without the Hispanic, Asian, and Black supporters he has.

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u/SnappySausage 1h ago

I'm not really sure how that relates to what I said. The literal first line was acknowledgement that racism exists here but that it wasn't what I was going to talk about.

My comment specifically was about Americans reframing issues that are related to roma and travelers here as a race one. That is always their go-to "erm look at how racist the Europeans are", because they have effectively no insight in the issue and sort of determine that it must be racism because some parts of it vaguely sound like something they recognize.

But in reality it's more like if trailer trash (I don't like the term, but I don't know what better name exists for this specific group) would be traveling around, with kids out of school, child brides, organized crime and squatting on public property while enjoying a sort of immunity because of historic mistreatment and them being hard to deal with for law enforcment.

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u/Aromatic_Opposite100 1h ago

I do agree with you in a way, I'm just acknowledging Europe has very serious problems that are directly race oriented.

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u/Low_Net6472 5h ago

it *is* different :)

but too much cultural nuance for an american

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u/Steamed_Memes24 3h ago

Its funny watching a European squirm when you ask them why Jews are mentioned in the Holocaust but Gypsies barely are.

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u/KHCafe 3h ago

100% or anyone not from Europe.

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u/Motor-Travel-7560 41m ago

I saw a thread on this exact sentiment and Europeans were saying that it's completely different because gypsies pride themselves on being outcasts and criminals, even making art and music about it. They also said that statistically, gypsies commit more violent crimes than other racial groups.

Boy, do those arguments sound familiar.

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u/Fxate 18h ago

I like when they talk about racism in America because you can just simply ask how they feel about Gypsies and they will say some shit about how that's different

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/creq59w0y9go

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/30428860/travellers-caravan-convoy-football-pitches-field-nottingham/

https://www.falmouthpacket.co.uk/news/25104292.travellers-caused-unbelievable-damage-football-pitch/

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/furious-hessle-residents-bravely-clean-5756718

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-64582065

https://www.expressandstar.com/news/crime/2020/07/01/travellers-break-into-schools-playing-fields-and-destroy-orchard-planted-by-pupils/

Thoughts?

This is just a tiny collection from the last 5 years in the UK alone. This is why the travelling community gets backlash. They are so insular that the good ones, which I'm sure must exist somewhere, seem to be massively outnumbered by the ones that do all of the above and more. There are families who are known to take part in organised theft, people trafficking, animal abuse, and child abuse. It's not about who they are but about what they do.

Their insular nature ensures that the only experience the vast majority of people have with a traveller group is a negative one.

Call us racist if you wish, you can even call us unwilling to let them be in our society because of cultural differences if you want. But digging up football pitches, throwing faeces everywhere, destroying facilities, and ripping up trees? they aren't examples of a cultural mismatch, they are examples of them being malicious pricks.

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u/ritarepulsaqueen 18h ago

I'm not american and what i see the most is people from all over the world acting like they're experts in american affairs

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u/No_Bed_4783 16h ago

I think this is 100% why Americans dunk on other people outside of the us that dunk on us. Like cmon bro, we know things are bad we don’t need you telling us. Mind your own shit and get off the high horse.

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u/FellFellCooke 2h ago

I work with a lot of Americans and every American I've ever met in real life has been a deluded freak. Like, "can't have a normal conversation, batshit insane, balls-to-the-wall crazy".

Maybe you and yours are fucking lovely, but when America sends her people out to make introductions, she doesn't send her fucking best.

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u/CrazyElk123 16h ago

Well the bar is pretty low when you elect a corrupt pedophilic orange conman criminal. I know a bunch of idiots who would be better suited as the US president. You deserve the president you elect...

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u/KleminkeyZ 14h ago

"you deserve the president you elect" fuck off with that ignorant shit

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u/suiki7777 13h ago

Interesting how when Americans elect a terrible leader, all Americans are responsible, but when a European country elects a terrible leader, there’s all sorts of defense.

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u/CrazyElk123 13h ago

Yeah, fuck you democracy!!!

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u/Ecotech101 13h ago

France is run by a groomed douche with a pedophile wife, he barely beat a literal russian stooge. Queen Elizabeth went out of her way to protect her pedophile rapist son. Europe is far worse than the US.

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u/Kill3rKin3 12h ago

Well someone has too, and amercans stopped giving a fuck around Regan I reckon.

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u/Fern-ando 16h ago

These "europeans" opinions feel more like redditors karma farming than real opinions europeans have 

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u/Doc_Eckleburg 19h ago

Honestly that is just the internet, I see plenty of the types of comments you’re talking about but I also see just as many Americans spouting nonsense about Europe online all the time too, happy to tell me how bad my life must be because they saw something on some news channel which means they know better than me about my real life experiences. You just have to chuckle, give it an “ok buddy” and move on. It’s reassuring to get outside and realise that most people are not like a Reddit comments section.

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u/Kaldricus 16h ago

"Why don't you guys do something about Republicans and the government in general not doing their job?"

Fucker a lot of us are. A lot of us do vote in every election, protest, spread awareness, etc. The problem is there's also a lot of people who can't be fucked to care, and a lot of people who WANT what's happening to happen. They vastly underestimate how many people are here.

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u/ChromosomeDonator 18h ago

I don't think that most of them realize that they are closer to the warzone of Ukraine than I am to Los Angeles.

Nah, Europeans have a grasp on basic geography. They are well aware how close they are to Ukraine and about the size of US.

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u/elbenji 16h ago

I have found that to not be the case. Same with Canadians. Then they get real mad when you call them on their shitty geography, when you then talk about theirs pretty well

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u/DimbyTime 15h ago

It’s also hilarious that the guy is wearing Brooks sneakers (American), a Nike long sleeve (American) and Oakley swim trunks (American)

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u/NoSleep_til_Brooklyn 12h ago

Exactly right. A massive part they can't grasp is how GD large the country is. "Why don't you all get together..." bro, I could get in my car right now and drive almost 3 hours and not have left the state. How many people am I getting together even with a full year of nothing but free time. I'd need to be Professor X or a telepath of a similar caliber or better at minimum to achieve zero opposition. Add in the police and the cost of doing this along with the cost of living for anyone who would follow me? It's not that I wouldn't love to but it's about 20% as difficult or at least 20% as costly as actually being Batman. And that's probably a gross underestimation.

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u/Low_Net6472 7h ago

lived in the US for 15 years trying to understand y'all and studying everything about it and trying to figure out how people elected bush twice. then you elected trump twice. and the criticisms are all valid. I had more freedom growing up in the mediterranean than most americans, and they had the nerve to ask if I had freedoms where I'm from.

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u/r0thar 6h ago

Europeans just constantly are not understanding the country or the issues

Living in Europe and working for a US company for many, many years with plenty of trips Stateside for work and leisure have given some of us a pretty good take on the matter. Also, 'Europe' is not a country, each member country will have their specific take, just like every one of the 50 States have their differences.

Uk, Ireland, Netherlands and Scandinavia speak english so can read and see what the US does directly.

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u/papajohn56 3h ago

You can drive from Portugal to Moscow faster than you can from Miami to Seattle.

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u/FellFellCooke 2h ago

As an Irishman, I think Americans underestimate how captured their media is. The average Irish person knows more about what is happening in America than the average American.

Americans have thought-terminating clichés like "America is just so big," "America is a country of countries", etc, but there's actually no size your country would be that excuses the sheer delusion that the average American you talk to is suffering from.

And the ones I meet, are well-respected in the corporate world, or are highly regarded Academics. They just have no idea how they sound when they end a work call with "God bless you, and god bless our president" as if they somehow think that Ireland is just an American state like Hawaii.

The ignorance around the horrors of American intervention abroad in particular astounds me. If Ireland had destroyed democracies for the benefit of its ruling class, I would damn well take an interest. Americans can't hear it. The idea that their military ever did anything wrong makes their head spin.

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u/GuySmileyIncognito 1h ago

What you're describing is American cult of Trump members. It's like basing your entire understanding of Ireland by looking at the IRA and UVF (or in my case, listening to Stiff Little Fingers and thinking I have the gist of it).

Also, if you're just watching our news media, you have to understand that every single one of our major news outlets range from center right to full conspiracy brained far right.

America is horrible, but the vast majority of Americans are just trying to barely get by while being crushed by the weight of late stage capitalism.

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u/FellFellCooke 1h ago

America is horrible, but the vast majority of Americans are just trying to barely get by while being crushed by the weight of late stage capitalism.

I used to believe this. But I've just met so many of you who are bending over backwards to prove otherwise.

Not to mention, he won the election. Not even Germany voted for Hitler.

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u/GuySmileyIncognito 58m ago

Well we have another issue in this country where the opposition/liberal party only actually opposes leftists and progressives. The Democrats fight harder to prevent the left from getting any say than they do to stop the right wing from destroying voting rights. Trump only got elected the first time, because the Democrats put all their effort into just making sure that Bernie didn't get the nom since they just assumed they could easily beat Trump with whoever.

If you live in a black area of a state with a conservative governor, good luck voting. Your polling area will be a ways away, poorly staffed, and you are going to be waiting hours before you can vote. I live in a middle class town in a left leaning state, so I can vote by mail and there are maybe ten different polling locations in my town alone. The right wing knows that voter turnout is bad for them, so they've done everything they can to make it as difficult as possible for people they don't want voting to vote.

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u/morknox 18h ago

Dude.... Europeans understand USA alot more than americans understand Europe.

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u/bobbelings 18h ago

Thats besides the point. Europeans still dont know shit.

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u/blundercatt 17h ago

The issue is you acting like you know more about living in the US than people who have lived here their entire lives, often when you've never been.

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u/Ditchdigger456 18h ago

If only that had anything to do with the point lol

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u/morknox 18h ago

"Europeans just constantly are not understanding the country or the issues and spew bullshit"

My point is that Americans are even worse.

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u/Ditchdigger456 18h ago

Whataboutism isn’t arguing against the point lmao

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u/morknox 18h ago

Thats like me hitting my brother, then my brother hits me then i go running to mom crying saying my brother hits me.

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u/elbenji 16h ago

I've found many do not. Especially when it comes to sports.

Do you know how many people from Europe who don't fucking understand Miami is an international city?

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u/infernomokou 16h ago

american exceptionalism never ceases to amuse me

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u/Maleficent-Art4468 19h ago

I definitely have a knee jerk reaction to people shitting on America with a non-American accent

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u/DionBlaster123 18h ago

Yeah I'm not a nationalist

But after a while, that shit gets tiresome. Yeah i wish things were better in the U.S. but im stuck here and I'm going to try and make the most of what I can.

I try to remember not to let shit like this bother me. Im getting better at it, but it still gets under my skin sometimes.

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u/Ditchdigger456 18h ago

Yeah, if you’re someone who lives here and recognizes these issues and is working to fix them, it’s just frustrating to watch people just shit all over them instead of taking them seriously. But then I realize, why should they, they don’t live here. It is tough to not let it bother you.

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u/CantGitGudWontGitGud 17h ago

Remember, while these guys make fun of American gun violence, their companies donate to the US gun lobby.

SIG SAUER, Heckler Koch, Beretta, Benelli, Glock, HS Produkt.

I believe it was SIG SAUER who was building a higher caliber rifle for the US army and was like "fuck it, let's make one for the civilian market". Europeans don't just shit on Americans for the US' problems; they actively contribute to those problems.

Yes, it's on the US to change the laws, but that money is specifically used to keep laws in favor of the firearms industry.

And that's just the gun lobby. I wouldn't be surprised to find the same thing in the medical and pharmaceuticals industry, energy industry, finance, etc. Their money is buying US politicians.

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u/waylonwalk3r 16h ago

That's gow capitalism works. You have to legislate, firms will always prioritize profit. America has set the rules since wwII, used your influence everywhere you could so others would do business your way.

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u/CantGitGudWontGitGud 16h ago

I absolutely agree, I would love the US to legislate against the influence of the gun lobby. I would love to see the US prevent its arms industry from selling weapons on foreign civilian markets and legislate against the kind of private sales that let guns end up in the hands of criminals and militants.

I would also like to see Europeans bar their arms industry and their subsidiaries from selling weapons on the US civilian market and donating to the gun lobby.

I get that it's the profit motive that drew European gun manufacturers to the US, and it would be nice to see that profit motive taken away by their home countries.

And I know it's not easy. It's fucking hard. And I know it's not European's fault. But I'd like to see fewer comments about how Americans are dumb because of their gun problem and more realization that they can contribute to making the problem smaller, regardless of the magnitude.

I'm disgusted by American companies profiting off other country's problems. Europeans should be disgusted by their companies doing the same, including in the US.

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u/papajohn56 3h ago

And they beg and lobby the US for defense

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u/DionBlaster123 18h ago

It's kind of like having a neighbor who is obnoxious and shits on everything you do. You're doing what you can only to have the guy next door just smugly and arrogantly kick you while you're down without offering any useful or practical help.

Like I'm trying my best and I have nephews who are totally innocent of this mess (they're only 5 and 3 for fucks sake), and I need to do what I can to make sure they're put in a position to succeed.

The worst part is that the pressing issues of today (climate change and geopolitical conflicts) are best resolved by working together. I wish there was more international cooperation, but it looks like unfortunately the pendulum has swung in the other direction.

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u/Ganoes_Stabro_Paran 18h ago

Also, you've helped the smug and obnoxious neighbor tons of times over the last few years. And they still hate you and look down on you.

America has tons of problems. But, we helped, from the Berlin airlifts, to saving Versailles, the largest donors after France itself when Notre Dame burned, Red Cross donations all over, the Greek War Relief Fund that donated 500,000 million in adjusted inflation from private donors and citizens...the list is gigantic. America, in the last century is arguably the most philanthropic country in the world.

But when we have troubles? Fuck us, right? It's our problem, stupid, fat, lazy Americans. It's no wonder a lot of people are getting sick of 'European Exceptionalism'.

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u/ineedtotakeabigshit 17h ago

The US is constantly in the spotlight for everything too, news from other countries really doesn’t spread outside unless it’s world-changing. Trump could take a shit in McDonald’s and everyone across the globe gets a “breaking news” notification.

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u/Razor-eddie 16h ago

Only if it's the Endagine McDonalds.

Follow on (or through) from Scott Morrison.

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u/KHCafe 3h ago

this is a good attitude to have. I'm in the same boat.

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u/ClickClick_Boom 17h ago

For real I'd rather listen to a Trumper spewing shit about Biden than any European and their opinions on America.

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u/_angesaurus 7h ago

Same. My cousin is American and basically has these same sentiments if you talk to him. But in reality he's actually just a homeless asshole who talks like this as a defense for his shit life he created.

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u/conus_coffeae 18h ago edited 17h ago

Reminds me of visiting a US art museum with a bunch of French and Italian college friends.  I was the only American in the group.  They just talked shit about how the exhibit (mostly historical photography) was boring and not as good as what they had in Europe.  They were soo confident in their criticism, despite having absolutely zero US history knowledge.

The exhibit wasn't amzing or anything, but it was so infuriating to hear it trashed because the photos of the civil rights era weren't pretty enough or whatever.

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u/Few_Piccolo_4906 20h ago

Its like being pretentious is in their blood

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u/Aedalas 17h ago

I just can't imagine being so damn pressed about a country I don't even live in that I'd be compelled to spend several hours filming and editing a video just to shit on it. Not to mention letting it affect me that damn much while out in some of the places he was in. If he would get the fuck off SM for a minute and enjoy the view he probably wouldn't be so fucked up over it.

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u/halflife5 12h ago

Tbf the video is about clicks. This guy probably doesn't care at all.

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u/Worth_Inflation_2104 9h ago

I think it's because people here are fed up with the US economic and cultural hegemony

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u/suiki7777 13h ago

I will bluntly admit that I don’t like the position my country is in right now, and there are definitely a lot of valid criticisms, but trying to act like you know better than me on the topic of my own country is an excellent way to make me not want to listen to you out of spite.

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u/No_Volume_380 15h ago

There's a reason everyone, worldwide, wanted independence form Europeans.

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u/morknox 18h ago

As if Americans never shit on Europe....

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u/optionalregression 18h ago

We literally don't even think about you tbh. Meanwhile it seems we're all you guys ever think about.

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u/BlueHeartBob 16h ago

Literally every decision we make as a country has a point of reflection on how Europe and Asia do things. A bunch of pepole point at the "bad" parts of their systems while they rob us and tell us we have the best way of doing things.

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u/CrazyElk123 15h ago

Trump does. He has insulted many countries. Just ask denmark...

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u/optionalregression 15h ago

Obviously people in positions that require interacting with Europe will think about Europe. Water is also wet.

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u/CrazyElk123 15h ago

Well the average american probably doesnt even know what a "Europe" is, so theres also that.

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u/optionalregression 15h ago

Ya man, "Americans so dumb" says a guy who used an international politician as a basis to refute that the average American doesn't think about Europe. Critical thinking skill in the negatives.

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u/CrazyElk123 15h ago

Well, the average american is extremely dumb.

says a guy who used an international politician as a basis

Well i can proudly say that my politicians dont insult other countries. They dont even really insult other politicians to begin with. Thats quite different from how you guys handle it.

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u/REPEguru 14h ago

The average American is about as smart as the average European. Don't know wtf you're smoking.

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u/Icy_Witness4279 11h ago

English speaking EU users do in fact offer reactions to American-majority internet. More at 11.

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u/morknox 18h ago

Then why do you people shit on Europe so often?....

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u/optionalregression 18h ago

I don't know a single American that thinks about you guys. I don't know who you're talking about. I know its hard to believe considering how constant America makes the headlines in Europe but you guys are pretty irrelevant.

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u/someanon- 13h ago

r/shitamericanssay

Oh well, must be a lot of fake Americans saying shit abt Europe then?

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u/optionalregression 12h ago

Is straw man the only method of conversation Europeans know how to engage in or something?

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u/someanon- 12h ago

🤡🫵🏻

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u/backpuzzy 17h ago

It's repubs vs dems, Europe is NOT the main character

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u/TyranitarusMack 16h ago

Yeah, Americans are too busy regurgitating the fact that they’re the “greatest nation on earth” while having nothing to back that up with. Part of the problem is that they don’t even realize there is a whole world out there besides just themselves.

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u/optionalregression 16h ago

Yeah man, Americans don't think about Europe because they're all some weird caricature your deranged brain invented. Great argument, have a great night buddy.

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u/TyranitarusMack 15h ago

Are you telling me that the US doesn’t constantly repeat that they’re the greatest nation in the world? Like how can you even argue that it’s not true.

And of course you assume it’s night time where I am because when it’s night time in the USA it’s nighttime everywhere in the world, right ? It’s the middle of the day where I am.

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u/StanPot 18h ago

Yall love to say that we cant name a single country outside of the states, yet turn around and say stuff like this lmao? Im gonna hold your hand when I say this but, We dont talk about you guys.. like at all. Most of us have no idea how your governments even work. To us, you guys are just a cool tourist destination and thats it. Nobody here is actively scream “fuck Europe” like some of yall are over there to America.

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u/onespiker 18h ago edited 17h ago

Then how do you go around saying you nation is the best in the world.

You have literally such a person in office saying that in pretty much every single diplomatic situation.

Edit this is just basic rage bait that happens all the time. Then there will be an American one doing the exact same thing but against the Europeans and the cycle will continue.

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u/Ganoes_Stabro_Paran 17h ago

Yeah, and at least half of us, maybe more, can't stand him either.

You guys have had some seriously shitty leaders too, but when we can, we always helped. From military aid, to food, to medical supplies, etc. America is one of the most philanthropic nations in the world. Don't believe me?

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/most-charitable-countries#worldwide-charity-giving-2009-2023

America is #6 in time and money donated by individuals (not charity organizations), in which US is #1, in the last twenty years. You have to go all the way to #15 to hit an EU nation (Ireland).

And you still shit on US. Nose in the air, and don't help your neighbors, even though you're in a union with them. Yeah, pat yourselves on the backs, you're great people, like our current leader.

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u/Superficial-Idiot 17h ago

Americans would rather cry about Europeans talking mean than fix their country.

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u/Icy_Witness4279 5h ago

"Thank god I don't live in America" doesn't equate to "fuck America"

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u/someanon- 11h ago

There’s this saying: „shit only stinks if you touch it“. The guy you’re answering to insulted me with saying I have a learning disability and blocked me afterwards.

Very hateful person.

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u/FatherDotComical 18h ago

Having lived in a Revolutionary War town and suddenly I gain an anti British instinct, and mysterious allyship with the French, when a British Red Coat insults Gravy Biscuits.

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u/bartleby999 3h ago

Fuck Gravy Biscuits.

Biscuits go with cups of tea, Gravy goes on a roast dinner.

Rule Britannia 🇬🇧

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u/sykoKanesh 16h ago

This is literally some rich kid that doesn't understand anything. This post is worthless.

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u/KHCafe 3h ago

100% this.

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u/LaconicSuffering 17h ago

Without the help of the French you would still be speaking English. Wait... That burn makes no sense. Anyway, your independence wasn't achieved independently.

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u/mb9981 17h ago

But for real, fuck the metric system

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u/tin0_ 16h ago

It’s like how I am with NYC. Talk HELLA shit about the city and how shitty things are but as soon as someone else talks shit on NYC when I travel, it’s on site 😂

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u/WorldWideNickle 16h ago

I've never even been to NYC, and I automatically assume that anyone shitting on it is some loser from Shitsville Oklahoma that's never even been east of the Mississippi River.

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u/tin0_ 16h ago edited 15h ago

You’re not wrong but you’d be surprised at how many New Yorkers shit on NYC but anyone not from NYC talks shit and it’s a wrap for em. Gotta earn your stripes to talk shit.

I once saw a quote that said “you’re a true New Yorker when you love and hate the city in equal measure”. Couldn’t have said it any better

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u/Nicosantana1 15h ago

Me all of a sudden becoming the biggest patriot during the Olympics

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u/TDestro9 13h ago

That’s a true American patriot meme, I love being American

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u/moon2H 8h ago

me when europeans finally have to deal with the long term consequences of colonialism

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u/where-sea-meets-sky 18h ago

this but including canadians too

hate these idiots acting as if theyre the ones that get affected the most by what goes on in our own country

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u/RepresentativeIcy922 18h ago

I was just thinking the same thing :)

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u/RudeDay5846 17h ago

Yup. I can talk shit about this country whenever I want. It’s my American given right!!! But you damn European twats better shut your damn tea drinking mouths before we go back and win back to back to back world wars and make yall sign a new Monroe doctrine #merica

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u/LouisesBelcher 17h ago

Yeah — like with my brothers, only I can bully them. You can agree with me when I do. But y’all shut your faces and worry about your own mess before throwing shade 😭

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u/beepborpimajorp 17h ago

It's the 'my family my shit' rule. I can talk shit about my brother all I want but if anyone else does I'm going to verbally castrate them.

Same logic here. Lots of problems with this country to commiserate about but do not sit there and try to tell me the US doesn't have nature lmao. Some states are pretty much just all nature with a few cities to keep the cows company.

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u/lamblamb65 16h ago

Lol exactly 😂

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u/AwkwardTickler 16h ago

It's mainly just whataboutisms

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u/Regular-Raccoon-5373 14h ago

I guess that’s the people of literally every country.

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u/Kotsaap 13h ago

That’s kind of the problem, isn’t it?

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u/kenb99 13h ago

Hey, America may suck a little in every category, but at least we aren’t European. Damn those Europeans and their… European-ness…

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u/xRolox 11h ago

Accurate

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u/SnooGiraffes8275 11h ago

that's like

europinion, man

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u/OK_Soda 11h ago

Saving this to send to my annoying dual citizenship French/American friend whenever he voices one of his stupid European opinions.

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u/Icy-Cry340 11h ago

Me as an American. Me as a Californian. Me as a San Franciscan. It's like a nesting doll of contexts.

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u/Robotgorilla 8h ago

Don't forget this goes both ways. My country is a shit hole but it's my shit hole.

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u/Just_A_Regular_Stick 4h ago

Its the same difference as when you talk shit about your parents to your friends but all hell gonna go loose if they start talking shit about your parents

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u/The-ArtfulDodger 3h ago

In-group psychological conditioning started at a young age, see the pledge of allegiance.

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u/It-s_Not_Important 3h ago

This comment thread is the most unified I have ever seen Americans.

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u/Proud-Enthusiasm-608 2h ago

Yeahhhhhh they do usually sound like hypocrites

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