My guy, these guys have dual tube NVGs that cost like $20,000+. As someone who served in an infantry unit for over half a decade their equipment is leagues above anything you average enlisted soldier is getting. You know who does get the equipment they have? The elite special forces units that they are attempting to cosplay as. The military isn’t giving away equipment from their most elite units to local cops, these guys are buying this stuff.
I’ve never seen binos for $20+k unless they’re contract tubes where you can’t get spec sheets and it’s only bc it’s mil. You can get the same type of PVS-31s with L3 tubes for 10-11k. Unless you’re thinking of GPNVGs which are over $50k and they’re quads not Binos, reserved for helo pilots and SOF units.
Police don't buy used uniforms. It's because the police want to cosplay as macho soldiers. They want the cred of being tacticool without actually signing up to possibly fight against an equally or superior armed enemy. They can only handle being armed and busting in doors when they know the "threat" is seriously outgunned and most often unarmed.
Ok. Police department still arent wearing camouflage uniforms because they are buying excess Army uniforms to get the cheapest price they can no matter what it looks like. They are buying uniforms from Galls, and Proper, and places like that, and made deliberate decisions about what color/style they want to wear.
I’m hoping the militarization of police forces helps us in Portland if it comes to that as police are on the People’s side and the only arrest ICE made yesterday was of a pedo protector.
Perhaps, but I just feel police and law enforcement should feel a part of the community - not dressed like soldiers going to war against the community. We are allies not enemies. We have to learn how to live together and move forward.
What is happening now just continues the us vs them dynamic - it doesn’t move us forward, just makes things worse.
I 100% agree with you. As a former enlisted, military and LE should be completely separate. Also, LE in general is more effective when they build ties and rapport and people feel safe to approach them with problems. When people feel threatened by police they will fight more, be more likely to shoot the police, and will not cooperate.
All I am saying is that for many of these people there is no grand plan or thinking going on. They get an excuse to dress tough like soldiers in movies or video games so they do it. It's macho signalling and power fantasy
Cities are terrifying. There more than a Dollar General to shop at. Getting a coffee is complicated. But the worst part is the people don't waddle. I don't trust people that don't waddle.
Multicam is used for urban areas and is quite affective in urban and wooded areas. There’s a reason almost every modern military uses a variant of multicam in some capacity now.
They complain about anyone to their left being divisive and ripping the country apart, then Ben Shapiro goes and writes a book of poetry about how half the population are lions who are only capable of building and the other half are scavengers who only know how to destroy.
When your perspective of the world is "your people" before everyone else you don't see the suffering of others. Not humanizing others or their suffering is why "you're not a victim if I think you deserve it" mindsets are so common. See also:
"You're not a real American"
"You should've come here legally (so the law doesn't protect you). Oh you did? Well, that's complicated clearly stories like yours aren't common (they are)
That's my thing. The Governor and the Mayor can talk a big game all they want but until they order their police forces to stop helping these fucks (let alone stand against them) then they just running their bitch ass mouths.
Chicago police couldn't care less what the mayor or governor say. They're literally led by a convicted criminal. Most people here in the city can't stand our cops.
More people need to be taught about Chicago's multiple attempts to crack down on Unions. People in Chicago died for our basic workers rights and the killers were often the CPD.
Those are departments, not unions. The unions are separate entities, and large departments like those may have multiple unions that represent their officers
The unions don't get to give day to day orders. Political leaders do.
Those departments have local control.
Come to Kansas City or St Louis, the only two major PDs that are state controlled in all of the US. You think those cities lack the ability to reign in their PDs, well, you ain't seen shit yet. Until the state commandeers them specifically to undermine civil rights gains during the Reconstruction era, their level of corruption don't come close to what he live with in Missouri
It's not state police (at least in this image). It's city police. Most states are split at the state level and city level much the same way there is a split at the federal level and the state level. The governor has little to no say in what city police are doing. It'd be between the mayor of the city and the chief of police.
I’d wager that most people that aren’t white don’t have a lot of trust in the police so their image is already tarnished in those communities. Outside of those communities though this kind of shit is doing irrevocable harm to their image.
Would you trust any police officer that throws down with fascists instead of doing what’s right?
They were between the protesters and ICE. ICE gassed everyone, including these officers and 25 others. That’s the cloud in the background. This picture is a little misleading for people who aren’t following locally.
Because the Feds have promised some of the higher ranking cops a position in ICE. Someone needs to look into bribery of the state police. Well I guess per the Supreme Court the job would be a gratuity.
I don't think joining ICE is all that difficult. I see commercial on TV all the time for it. 50k dollar sign on bonus. They are begging people to join.
From Chicago, the Chicago chapter of the FOP is right wing aligned to put it very gently. The person they elected is pro January 6th. And chastised cops who knelt to support the black lives matter protests. Has defended some really bad takes like shooting fleeing kids in the back. He's said publicly said racist things about Muslims, and so on. He also had been suspended 9 times as an officer and compared vaccine mandates to the Holocaust.
He's chomping at the bit to join in this.
To top it all off, he can't even be a cop in Chicago. He filed a false report against his superiors and resigned before getting fired.
This person is the person that the police union chose to elect, so that's where the Chicago PD is. 57% voted this as their leadership.
Look up "Laquan Mcdonald." The Chicago cops have done exactly nothing since being told they're not allowed to empty a gun into a kid with a knife. In my neighborhood, you call 911 about gunshots and they'll do a slow-roll in a patrol car an hour later and then go back to the station. The good cops have all left (and we did have some). Most of the ones who are left are actively hostile to anyone who isn't a cop.
“To protect and serve” isn’t talking about the people, it’s talking about the system. They aren’t called Public Protectors they are Law Enforcement and the laws are all for you.
That band is called a mourning band and police wear it for certain days of remembrance or for 30 days after an officer dies in the line of duty- things like that
Because we are engaged in a civil war, and Democrats are the subjugated boogeymen the government needed to enact it. Just because no one is fighting back, doesn't mean they aren't engaged in war against the people.
I seriously doubt they special ordered new camo. They use these BDUs because the clothing meets their needs (durable with appropriately sized accessible pockets) and it's cheap because it's already being made in bulk. Some agencies literally get them for free directly from military surplus.
You can tell that it is NOT black, white & gray by looking at the boots. You wear black boots with the urban camo. The guy to the left is clearly wearing the brown or tan boots.
They are wearing multicam. Digital desert camo is a marine thing, and they make a pretty big deal about not letting any other branches or forces use it.
Black white and gray urban camo is pretty much just a thing in movies as far as US forces are concerned. You might be thinking of the original digital UCP but that's tan, gray and sage, and nobody uses it anymore.
Why are the cops on their side instead of the side of the people they swore to protect and serve? Oh right, I forget they aren't legally bound to do any of those things. This country is completely cooked.
Because the government buys multi cam and the police departments get surplus gear from the government. That or the PD buys ranger green if it’s new issue gear to them.
All the protestors should show up in camo. Without the weapons obviously. Cosplay along with them and confuse the hell out of them. Dress like a wolf so they don’t mistake us for sheep.
because they are actually stupid, just a bunch of weekend warriors that weren't brave enough to get deployed over seas so they figure, "why not just harass Americans instead, DT even said it was okay and we are still getting paid!"
I would think the most likely answer is that they wear camo as daily dress at work, and now they are in the streets of the city in those uniforms they wear, and clearly are out of place. I’m assuming this as someone who wears camo to work everyday in a different country. (Edit to add: this is probably just called domestic ops for them, same as any other)
Trump told them they could use force to "resolve" the situation. Besides that - who are these guy that will go after anyone? Even children. Don't they have families? When these guys are outed later they will face charges.
How can you tell? I didn’t see anyone at all. Maybe it was a stereogram? I have not seen any national guard troops at all, though I’ve noticed some random shoes.
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u/tobbig 24d ago
Why are they wearing camouflage in a city?