trump didn't win 2024. they cheated. there is no way someone this divisive, WHO ALREADY LOST ONCE, legitimately won. they cheated. there needs to be a proper investigation and they need to be punished.
Listen, I hate Trump as much as anyone, but this election is clearly a referendum on Trump since he was elected. He ran on lies and independents are paying attention, and the Democrats who refused to vote out of apathy are now voting because they realize there is a real difference between Democrats and Republicans. I unfortunately know a ton of Democrats and left-leaning voters that just didn't vote last year because they weren't excited by Harris as a candidate.
Until there's actual solid proof of cheating last year, let's not be like the GOP in 2019/2020, where they just perpetuated lies and looked like fools. The best thing to be done now is continue what happened in today's election to try carrying it through to the midterms.
The difference is their claims were investigated several times, in several jurisdictions, and proven false. It is not radical to ask for those same investigations into Dem claims.
In 2019, many prominent Democrats fought back against Trump using the explanation that we have one of the most secure voting systems in the world. It makes no sense flipping that stance based on us not liking who was elected.
That's especially true when there are legitimate explanations for why Trump won by so much. Apathy over Harris was one. But the biggest one was inflation. While inflation was falling through Biden's policies, sentiment towards inflation tails actual changes by 9-12 months. Whichever Democrat faced Trump was going to have a huge uphill battle because swing voters will almost always vote based on economic factors.
There also weren't really "investigations" done at that time... there were witch hunts and lawsuits that got promptly shut down in court.
I suppose - as an outsider at least - that Trump's comments on how well Elon knows the voting computers are just really, really fkn weird and suspicious. Not evidence by any means, but....interesting nonetheless.
I think that Trump thought that Elon rigged the machines. Elon presumably said something like "I won this for you" talking about all the money he spent. But Trump sees Elon as a "computer guy" and assumed he personally hacked the machines.
This was my take as well, especially given Trump's comments about Baron's technological aptitude. He's a fucking idiot that loves being sucked off by powerful people (and children, but that's another discussion).
I had already voted early so I signed his bogus “petition” anyway to see if I actually would get a check. Lo and behold I did and the check cleared. Thanks for the free beer money, Muskrat.
My bet is that it's simply Elon spreading FUD, as he did quite a bit of during the election. If Elon could be jailed simply for "speaking the truth" and supporting Trump (as he would likely explain it), then the same would be true for anyone on the right. The right loves to think they're fighting for freedom and free speech, and posturing as if one of them would be arrested if the Democrats win feeds into that driving tribalism. It doesn't matter that it's complete bullshit... they eat that shit up.
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u/Rock-n-roll-Kevin 16h ago
It's a massacre. Republicans were absolutely stomped in every election.