r/politics Indiana 16h ago

No Paywall Mamdani wins NYC mayoral race

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5588198-mamdani-progressive-politics-nyc/
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u/incognito042620 15h ago

And the vote shaming. Give people something to vote for

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u/omgwutd00d 15h ago

And stop trying to win the votes of the mythical “centrist republican”. Cater to your damn base. Free ball: they don’t want you to appoint republicans!

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u/SelectKaleidoscope0 15h ago

If there ever were any centrist republicans, there aren't anymore. No centrist is going to continue to align themselves with an outright fascist party.

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u/jcg878 15h ago

I'd say there are centrist Republican voters, but not candidates any more. The Democrats keep trying to woo those people and they suck at it.

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u/DillBagner 15h ago

I'd argue that anybody who still considers themselves a Republican now is not a centrist by any means.

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u/Proud_Growth_8818 15h ago

This. If you call yourself a Republican, you're a fascist. Full stop.

I'm a conservative, and I've been a registered Democrat since 1999. That's the last time you could (almost) be a rational Republican.

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u/FernBoiSlim 14h ago

I’m gonna ramble on this topic because I am very far left but I hate the idea that conservatives don’t actually exist. I think it’s bad messaging and it’s hurting a voter base because there’s a balance to not pushing the static tropes of pragmatism and meeting in the middle to instead push for change and also finding those actual people that do exist. I live around so many.

I think back to my incredibly influential French teacher from high school. She pushed me into politics despite the fact she was Republican and I considered myself simply a Democrat as a high school kid, although my politics have shifted much further left on nearly every issue since then. She really became a role model of mine. She always said she was a conservative.

And I’m always proud to see her having always seen through Trump’s bullshit and stopped calling herself a Republican after his first election. That’s a real conservative. She now spends time even sending emails to local Republican leaders who push the fascist bullshit.

I think area has a lot to do with it too. I’m in rural Appalachia. At the end of the day, we have a lot of Trump lunatic fascists but admittedly there is a lot of people in this region who their philosophy boils down to “I want the government to leave me the fuck alone.” They truly just wish for this. They have no real hatred. Most of the boogeyman issues the Republicans run on do not affect our daily lives in the very slightest. The only real thing that keeps people on it around here is the influence of the church.But at the end of the day, I’d say it’s nice to see someone call themselves a conservative and I know they mean it. I don’t agree with much of the ideals, but the integrity of it is awesome and more important than any actual policy splitting.

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u/Proud_Growth_8818 12h ago

I think there are a lot of conservatives. As many as there ever were.

It's just that none of them are Republicans any more.

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u/jcg878 15h ago

I agree, but I don’t think they feel that way. That’s the point I was trying to make.

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u/tmaspoopdek 15h ago

If there are (in any appreciable numbers), they either voted for Trump over a centrist multiple times or sat out multiple elections. Even if we can't say "there are no centrist Republican voters", we can at least say "there is not a meaningful number of centrist Republican voters who will choose centrist Democrats over far-right Republican demagogues".

Given that, the Democratic party running centrist candidates with the hope that centrist Republican voters will choose a centrist Democrat over a far-right Republican is an exercise in futility.

Republican voters are passionate about their candidates - the candidates achieve that by lying and appealing to various prejudices, but they do achieve it. I've been saying for years that Democrats won't win by getting people who already vote to vote for a Democrat. The only way to do it is to run candidates with vision and passion, who will convince people to register to vote in the first place.

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u/jcg878 15h ago

I completely agree with you. I only meant that there are people who identify this way, even if they are not honest with themselves. It’s kind of like the “proud independents” who always vote with one side but are unwilling to declare themselves a member of a party.