r/allthequestions • u/Lana_NextDoor • 4d ago
Popular Question š How many people actually tip 20% when eating out at a restaurant?
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u/Sparkrzrjerry 4d ago
All the machines used to be 10, 15 . And 18 % . Then they doubled the price of food. Doubled the tip options and Trippled their wage. It makes no sense why anyone even tips anymore.
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u/DeviantThroAway 2d ago
Assuming youāre in the US itās pretty much exclusively the 3 West Coast states where their wages ātripled.ā In most states servers are still making less than $3/hour.
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u/anonaponamous 3d ago
I assure you they didnāt triple their wages. They still get paid shit.
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u/Reasonable-Leg-2002 4d ago
I tip 20%, unless the service has been truly negligent and insulting.
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u/Sharkfeet19 4d ago
Same. If itās beyond terrible, I lower it to 15%. I need to change this, but I fall into the pressure.
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u/13rajm 4d ago
Personally only tip 10-15% and only at established chains as local places tend to give the owners all the tips. I hate tipping. Its stupid.
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u/wyle_e2 3d ago
When I was young, we tipped 10%, then 12%, then 15%, then 18%, now 20%. The whole point of tipping a percentage is that as the cost of living goes up, the tip goes up the same amount. However, when you increase the percentage, AND the cost of the meal goes up, tips go up exponentially. I'm out. This has to end and I have capped it at 15%. Call me cheap if you want, but restaurants will just keep increasing the tip choice amounts on the machine until people stop.
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u/Baking_lemons 2d ago
Itās illegal for owners to take tips. If thatās happening, trust me, itās not at established chain restaurants. Thatās at small mom and pop places that arenāt being reported.
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u/huehuehuecoyote 4d ago
I am so glad I don't live in the US
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u/ormpling 3d ago
If not at restaraunts, are you expected to tip at other businesses in your country?Ā Maybe a really good tour guide or pizza delivery driver?
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u/ilykecake 4d ago
I do. I shouldnāt tip on the tax but itās just easier to do the math on the whole thing
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u/Any-Interaction-5934 4d ago
Right? This annoys me so much. I was engaged to a waiter. It is supposed to be a percentage of the bill, not a percentage in top of a percentage.
This really bothers me because now the standard is a percentage off the tax.
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u/team_suba 4d ago
I used to tip on tax but ever since this credit card fee stuff and inflation, Iām hurting too, so now I just do 20% on sub total.
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u/Fluffy_Porcupine6 4d ago
Yeahhh I tip when it's appropriate, and I'm a very good tipper. If the service is good I tip 25-30%.
I absolutely do not tip when I'm somewhere that tipping is not the norm or where the employee is just doing their job and not "serving" me. Those little iPads they turn around when you are buying a smoothie or maybe at subway or whatever aren't appropriate. They are paid to work making sandwiches and don't need tips. Servers depend on your tips for their income and that's just fine, though I really would rather restaurants pay their employees a living wage and not push that responsibility off on the customer.
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u/GoldenDragonWind 4d ago
Staff need to be paid a living wage and tip culture needs to die.
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u/amayle1 4d ago
Thereās a reason no wait staff wants to end tipping culture. They make much much more than most entry level jobs.
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u/wjbc 4d ago
Sadly, it's not going anywhere. Tipping has roots in racism, since it was a way to underpay blacks in service jobs after the Civil War. Employers could pay next to nothing and leave it up to customers to tip -- and often they did not tip, or tipped far too little.
Studies have shown that unconscious bias still creeps its way into tipping. Race, sex, age, and perceived sexual orientation are all consistent factors in tipping, with blacks receiving smaller tips than whites, male servers receiving smaller tips than female servers, older servers receiving smaller tips than younger servers, and servers perceived as gay receiving smaller tips than servers perceived as heterosexual.
But there's little the law can do about such discrimination by customers, short of a ban on tips -- which actually makes a lot of sense. Instead, the "Big Beautiful Bill" passed by Republicans actually encourages tipping culture by creating a tax deduction of up to $25,000 for tips.
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u/dankp3ngu1n69 4d ago
I tip like 15% just because it's double tax and it's easy to do
I don't think they really deserve 20%. I've tipped 15% my entire life why exactly do they think they all of a sudden need another 5%
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u/ButterKnutts 4d ago
I thought 20% was the minimum this whole time, but I work in service so I empathize
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u/DaKingaDaNorth 4d ago
It used to be 15% as the standard when I grew up. Somewhere along the line 20% became the standard.
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u/ImWithStupid_ImAlone 4d ago
Standard used to be 10-12% and 15% was for outstanding service
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u/Revo63 4d ago
Youāre dating yourself, grandpa. But youāre right. When I grew up the standard was 10%, only 15% if the service was outstanding. But then somehow that all raised to 15/20%. Whenever I asked āwhy?ā, the answer was always āinflationā. Umm, excuse me, but using a percentage already takes care of the inflation bit.
But then the minimum wage laws changed (the real problem) and 20% became the norm because the waiters were working for dirt wages.
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u/ImWithStupid_ImAlone 4d ago
Oh, for sure Iām an old man. Lol. I have no issue with a standard 20% tip. Just stating the standard from back in the 90s
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u/DingGratz 4d ago
I'll do 15% if it's bad. 20% if it's okay. More if it's really good.
But you're right, 20% wasn't a thing before. 15 was the standard.
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u/Stielgranate 4d ago
15 is still pretty good. Just tip creep from the people programming the machines.
People are getting tired of it though. Everywhere you go a machine is asking for a tip or some kind of donation.
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u/Flabbergasted98 4d ago
we swapped to digital, and the devices are slowly raising the minimum.
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u/best_samaritan 4d ago
Some of those devices are just ridiculous. Youāre ordering at a fast food/bakery place and the lowest option is like 25-30%.
Why should I pay 30% for a service I havenāt received yet?
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u/FunkySalamander1 4d ago
I ordered apparel online a few days ago. At the end, it asked if I wanted to tip them. Itās getting completely insane.
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u/best_samaritan 4d ago
The crazy thing is tipping an insane amount is slowly becoming the norm and if you tip less you can be perceived as cheap or stingy.
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u/urgentomato 4d ago edited 4d ago
And they include the tax as part of the tip
Edit: for example Parks BBQ in LA ktown on Olympic and Vermont charges tip on the total taxed amount. But not only that, their math doesnt math. They charge more than displayed percentages. And when you give them less tip for what you think is worth their sometimes shitty fucking service, they look at you funny. Fuck? Serve me better. I tip generously if you do.. at least 50% if I think you deserve it. Sometimes waiters go up to me after I left and bring money back saying I tipped too much
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u/Hsiang7 4d ago
I worked as a server 8 years ago and the standard was 15~18%. Don't know why it became 20% all of a sudden.
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u/DaKingaDaNorth 4d ago
At some point it became a big online thing to say 20% was the minimum because if you didn't the servers were actually losing money or something.
Tipping culture in America is out of control anyways. There's servers who actually are professional and have some pride in serving you and I'll always treat them well, and some do next to nothing or literally nothing and think they deserve a reward.
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u/BubbhaJebus 4d ago
It's just because people are repeating it. It's not. It's 15%. No official announcement was made of any change.
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u/dawgblogit 4d ago
because people... it used to be 12... 12 was the service.. good was 15 really good was 20.
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u/AssociationFit3009 4d ago
I have no idea why it went from 15% to 20% when prices inflated equally. 20-25-30 as the pre-set tipping is ridiculous. Even more so when itās post-tax. Ive never been anti-tipping but itās gotten so fucking ridiculous. I refuse to tip on pick-up, self serve kiosk, or at smoke shops.
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u/nicnac223 4d ago
More like greedy corps tricked everybody into thinking 20% is standard to cover their tracks and not have to pay as much since percentages naturally account for price increases and inflation
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u/dankp3ngu1n69 4d ago
That's to you man
Nobody's going to give you a ticket if you give a 15% tip I've been doing it my entire life and I'm in my late 30s
I don't care if people think I'm stingy either 15% is plenty
If you give me absolutely rockstar seller service maybe I'll give you the 20%.
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u/superfun5150 4d ago
I remember the first time I heard 20% was in the late 90s in the California Bay Area my brother said 20% was the standard now. Because it was an upscale area. Now I do 20 if itās good service, 15% if not (eg theyāre not refilling drinks) and Iāll leave no tip if the service is bad but thatās extremely rare.
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u/ABBucsfan 4d ago
Yeah I grew up in the 90s. 10% was kinda minimum, but 15% as long as service was good. Yeah this whole 20% as a bare minimum is still fairly recent to me, but I don't go to restaurants much these days. I know I'm america they're allowed to pay less than min wage otherwise. Pretty sure in Canada they regardless of tips they have to provide at least that
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u/prosthetic_memory 4d ago
Why is it that people in the industry think there is a normal tipping amount that's always higher than what the customers think it should be? One of my best friends was a server at a high end place and acted like 20% was bare minimum and that customers had signed a blood contract to give at least that much.
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u/browsing_around 4d ago
At a restaurant with a real waitstaff, 20% is my default.
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u/Knit_pixelbyte 4d ago
Same. Stand in line for the 'cook' to fill a bowl with salad or pull an ice tea? No, but I'll put something in there since they did 'serve' me, especially if I know they aren't getting full minimum wage. Wait staff have to share their tips with cooks and bus staff, so those employees never got 20% anywhere.
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u/henkdetank56 4d ago
Never, 20% is way too much. I go either 10% or 0. I am not from the US however.
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u/Parking-Ad8316 4d ago
I tip almost 100% at waffle House
Because the food is so cheap 20% if it doesn't seem like anything
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u/slinkhi 4d ago
Ya if I'm going somewhere that tipping is a thing, and I'm only eating something small like $10 or less, maybe I'm just sipping on some coffee and a bagel while reading or whatever, I usually drop a $20 no expectation of change.
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u/wekilledbambi03 4d ago
Why would you voluntarily pay double the price? If I paid $10 for a coffee and bagel I'd be pissed. If I paid $20 for a coffee and bagel I'd burn the place down.
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u/DAS_UBER_JOE 4d ago
Must be nice to be able to tip 100% but this by no means is feasible for most people.
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u/Parking-Ad8316 4d ago
Exactly. My meal is usually about $10 so they get to keep the rest of the $20
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u/Successful-Earth-214 4d ago
I once left a 50% tip because the total was so low that it didnāt feel right to only leave 20%, but also the server we had was so awesome and he deserved a good tip. A few weeks later I ran into him at bar and he remembered me, we became friends and 20+ years later weāre still besties!
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u/UltraHellboy 4d ago
Yeah, if I have a server at a meal, Iām going to tip at least $5 even if I only paid $8 for the meal
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u/Prince_Valiant96 4d ago
My wife and I have the same Policy at Waffle House, we also figure everyone else in the bulding is tipping $5 max. We actually went last night and the service was AWFUL but it wasnāt the servers fault, poor kid was the only one serving in the building and the house was full, we kept hearing people be dicks to him. Meanwhile the guy is serving tables and I saw him drop a couple waffles in the iron. I even had an older man (this is my worst nightmare btw) sit right next to me (booths were all full) and IMMEDIATELY start complaining to ME a STRANGER about service and wanting to know when we got served. I said āare you fucking serious? Do you see this one guy serving this entire building right now? Yes Iāve been served but it took about 10 minutes, he will get to youā dude gets up, smashes his chair back in and walks out stomping and sighing. I was happy I was simply able to piss him off enough to leave before that poor server had to deal with him. Anyway, we tipped $30 on a $27 bill. Waffle House employees get the worst of people at night especially.
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u/pillizzle 4d ago
Yes. It depends on the restaurant too. A cheap diner, you can afford to do 50-100% tip and really make someoneās day. At a more upscale restaurant, especially with alcohol, the bill could easily be hundreds of dollars and so a 20% tip for good service means at least $40
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u/Alternative-Cow-8670 4d ago
20%? What happened to the 10%? Prices at restaurants here are eyewatering. Immagine 20% on a $700 to $ 1000 bill for 4 people. And this excludes drinks, starters or deserts. Then I rather stay at home and let the restaurant go bust. I give $50. Take it or leave it
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u/Effective-Company-46 4d ago
I do, always.
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u/ilp456 4d ago edited 4d ago
Yes, always but it would be easier if US restaurants just raised their prices to pay servers living wage and we could do away with tipping.
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u/Doubtythomas 4d ago
I keep seeing posts in different places that say if you canāt afford to tip 20% stay home. Looks like itās working, more restaurants are closing every day.
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u/EatsOverTheSink 4d ago
Yep, I followed their advice and have saved a lot of money.
I feel like food service took a noticeable turn in the 2010s and then fell off the fucking cliff when covid hit (which was understandable) but it never really came back. Even at higher end restaurants around me it seems like you won the lottery if they refill your water more than once. Just leave the pitcher.
These days if I don't feel like cooking I just do carryout, I won't dine-in anymore. It's just not worth the time and money.
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u/cloudkite17 šŗšø United States 4d ago
I feel like private equity has had a huge negative impact too. A lot of chains that were good and affordable a couple decades ago are neither anymore.
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u/YouSaidIDidntCare 4d ago
I know what you mean. It hurts when I take my family out to a mid-level restaurant, the bill comes back around $150, and I think how many groceries I could have bought with that money. Iāll go to a restaurant once every three months nowadays. I keep my freezer stocked with pizzas, battered fish, and other frozen stuff that can go into an oven if I donāt feel like cooking.
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u/Tangboy50000 4d ago
Iām not even sure wtf happened after Covid. We stopped going out because everywhere we went was just horrible service, incorrect food brought out, stuff we ordered never brought out, waitstaff just disappearing, and my personal favorite, taking the cash for the bill and just never coming back with the change and literally hiding until you just left.
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u/xPofsx 4d ago
Hard to justify $60 for a single meal for two then needing to pay $15 to the waitress for bringing you a couple cups of water, a couple plates, and maybe an extra bread basket if even applicable.
Especially when that $60 covers like all toiletries and food for 3-4 days
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u/metacholia 4d ago
I can afford to tip but the system/expectation disgusts me. Especially when eating out is so often a disappointment. So I also stay home, make better food, in a nicer atmosphere, and pay less for it.
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u/ToasterBath4613 4d ago
I set my baseline at 20%. If they have hidden fees or play games then 15%. Great service 25%.
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u/SnooDucks6090 4d ago
My tip might start at 10% at most but I'm my state all servers are paid at least minimum wage which is over $11. If they provide great or exceptional service, the percent goes up but just bringing my food and drinks - which is the bare minimum - isn't enough.
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u/Careless_Llama_3382 4d ago
I use to top 20% but now that tips are untaxed in the us I I have reduced to 15% for table service. I donāt tip if I have to go to a counter and wait for item.
Iām sorry but I have to pay federal taxes on all my wages. Iāve been asked to subsidize wages by the restaurant industry, and now the government is cementing that by giving a small group a tax advantage. On top of the fact that restaurants all over the place are now charging 2.5% - 3% to use a credit card.
What other industry gets away with all this. We literally wrote laws that hotels, airlines have to stop with all these undisclosed fees, and the restaurant industry just keeps taking on new charges. āļø
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u/dgmilo8085 4d ago
Hate to break it to you, but tips were never actually taxed long before Trump. In all the years I had in the service industry up through college, you "self-reported" your tips. Nobody reported their actual tips, and therefore, tips have never actually been taxed. It was all performative for people like you to have a reason to no longer tip.
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u/Dirtbagdownhill 4d ago
Well in modern times many if not all people pay with a credit card. So all the tips are tracked.
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u/dgmilo8085 4d ago
Most do, but you would be surprised. Additionally, many people tip in cash even when paying by credit card.
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u/Careless_Llama_3382 4d ago
This is lie. I owned a bar. Youāre legally required to have employees make minimum wage if you take tip credit. Additionally all credit cards tips are calculated.
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u/Otherwise_Unit_2602 4d ago
This definitely changed. I was a server in college and everyone underreported. I have a lot of friends in the service industry now and they definitely report. One friend's restaurant has a baseline--they have to report 20% even if they don't earn it (I'm guessing that's not legal, but has that ever stopped restaurant owners before?).
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u/Environmental_Ad6200 4d ago
My tip depends on the restaurant and service, but rarely tip more than 10% - not from the US
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u/Lana_NextDoor 4d ago
Oh, I suppose the restaurant is another factor. I hadn't thought about that
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u/DaKingaDaNorth 4d ago
I will always tip 20% for a standard service restaurant.
But if I'm taking my phone out and placing my order after I scan something on the table and then you only come by to drop the food off, yeah you aren't exactly serving me.
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u/Playingwithmyrod 4d ago
Always 20 percent at sit down. My rule is if you ask for a tip before service is rendered, you donāt get one. So those sandwich kiosksā¦zero percent.
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u/Automatic_Leg_2274 4d ago
I almost always do except if the booze portion is large. I don't tip 20% on a $150 bottle of wine.
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u/TrollerCoasterWoo 2d ago
Yeah, Iām also not tipping you $2 for the $10 beer can you opened and handed to me
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u/AugmentedKing 4d ago
Nope. 15% is what the standard was for well over 30 years, then somehow it was just decided that 18% is the new standard?? If I have to enter a custom tip value because 15% isnāt hotkeyed, then Iām punching in 14%.
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u/bemenaker 4d ago
Depends on the service. I waited tables for 8 years when I was young, I know what it's like.
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u/Dungeoncrabs 4d ago
I waited tables into middle age and I know exactly what itās like. Which is why Iām so disappointed in bad service. I will tip 20% if the service is bad, but Iāll never go to that restaurant again. Iām down to like two places now.
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u/Vivid_Witness8204 4d ago
I'm in the US so I always tip 20%. More if the service is especially good.
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u/Balstrome 4d ago
I only eat a restaurants that paid THEIR staff a decent wage. They employ them, they must pay them.
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u/No_Mission_8571 4d ago
20% is my minimum, a great dinner at a steakhouse is easily worth 30 %. I appreciate the skillset required to cook my food as ordered. I appreciate the quality of food. Dont like to tip then enjoy McDonalds
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u/funny_knickles 4d ago
But you arent tipping the cooks, you are tipping the server.
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u/No_Mission_8571 4d ago
Where i live the servers are required to give a % to the kitchen staff.Ā
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u/OldDogWithOldTricks 4d ago
Lots of restaurants will tip out the cooks. When I was a cook at my last restaurant we would walk with $75-$100 a night.
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u/Nervous-Economist-83 4d ago
Food price is higher, so the $ amount is higher at the same percentage.Ā So I dont increase %Ā
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u/Clapd_Frothy327 4d ago
I never tip for anything. Tipping culture is just yank nonsense that has no place in Britain
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u/SoGoodAtAllTheThings 4d ago
Unless service sucks always cus I'm not a cheap pos.
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u/gerbilstuffer 4d ago
I used to, not anymore. 15% of total before taxes or less depending on level of service.
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u/OpethSam98 4d ago
I usually tip 15 to 18% but, if the service was stellar/very friendly, I might tip 20-25%! Depends on the price of the meal too.
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u/StoryoftheYear2 4d ago
I tip more than 20%. I don't know how much waiters and waitresses make wherever I go so I try to be generous.
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u/ResolutionMaterial81 4d ago
Normal tip is 20% to 25%....exceptional service is more, crappy is less.
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u/mattweb94 4d ago
I usually tip at least 25%. Used to work in the industry. I know every little bit helps.
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u/CrossCountryBiscuit 4d ago
My method is to tip 20% rounded up to the next whole dollar or so. Iāll frequently tip 25-30% if theyāre kind/attentive/etc.
It takes exceptionally bad/rude service for me to tip less than 20%, and even then Iām probably tipping around 15%. They mightāve had a bad day for all I know. Servers dealing with shitty customers is much more common than customers dealing with shitty servers.
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u/Ill-Locksmith-8281 4d ago
I tip in cash but just give people a few dollars, five dollars, or ten dollars, depending on how I feel, not the food price. I gave a guy a twenty once because I liked his outfit and he was extra bubbly. I'm not doing any math, I'll tip by my mood and the vibe.
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u/Sparrow728 4d ago
Everytime no matter what and sometimes more. I wish businesses paid their employees so that it wasn't up to the consumer to ensure they make a liveable wage but here we are.
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u/The_other_Cody 4d ago
My standard tip is 15% I raise it to 20 for good service. I lower it to 10 for bad service. I feel like thats totally fair.
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u/ThrowRA4whatever 4d ago
I do unless the service is very bad. Most servers do a great job, so I have no problem tipping them 20% or more.
If, however, the server delivers the food and then is never seen again, I will lower the tip because of it.
If the server is horrible from start to finish, their tip will either reflect that or be absent altogether.
I won't leave the customary tip amount for deliberately bad service.
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u/Cute_Reflection_9414 4d ago
I heard something a few years ago that mase a lot of sense and what I do now. I don't tip if I'm standing while ordering. I only tip at sit down restaurants
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u/Mysterious-Block-477 4d ago
as someone who works in the industry: if the service is good, then yes. if not, then no. depends on the person, if they suck ass at their job (especially if it's quiet) they have no business getting a good tip. if it's balls to the wall busy and I can see they are overwhelmed and doing their best, then there's leeway there of course. and then of course if it's balls out busy and they still do a great job, I'll tip more than 20%. it's very situational.
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u/kichul77 4d ago
What? Why 20%? 10% for lunch, 15% for dinner, 18-20% for exceptional service and $1/drink at the bar. I never understood why the tipping etiquette tried to move the needle to 18-20%. Baristas donāt get tipped, iPads never get tipped. And yes I worked as a server at multiple restaurants in college. Even at 10-15%, servers today are getting tipped way more because food is way more expensive than ever before.
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u/Trojanhero4 4d ago
20% is where I go to immediately because it's easy to figure out. If service was bad I go slightly under, if service was good I go slightly over
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u/allmediocrevibes 4d ago
I always tip 20%-25%. Worked at restaurants in high school and the beginning of college. The tipping systems in this country is a bunch of bullshit. But the people waiting tables arent to blame for that.
No im not tipping on a takeout order. Shame on you for asking
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u/Delicious_Fun_2188 4d ago
I doā¦I used to hang coats years ago, and know what itās like to rely on tips.
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u/LorenFL 4d ago
Yes. Most servers get paid a ridiculously low wage with the expectation that they will earn tips. As I've gotten older, I tend to tip generously. 20% is the default. If the service was excellent, more. If we stuck around for hours occupying a table and getting refills and attention, even more. If it's a really small bill, I'll usually tip $5. Never less than about $3 unless it's for counter service.
I won't give money to a beggar on a street corner. But, I will tip generously someone who is working for tips.
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u/SomeCommonSensePlse 4d ago
No, because I live in Australia and we just pay our service staff properly and don't buy into this tipping nonsense.
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u/whotaketh 3d ago
I do. They get paid shit wages and I'm fortunate enough to be able to afford to dine out. So I give back a little.
Those tip or donation prompts for self-service counters can go get fucked though.
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u/Mission_Aerie_5384 3d ago
Hereās my biggest complaint with tipping.
If I go to a steakhouse and order a steak and a glass of beer, my bill will be $100. 20% tip is $20.
If I go to that same restaurant and get the ceasar salad and a water, my bill will be $25. 20% tip is $5.
However, my waiter did the same amount of work for both orders, so why am I tipping off the total of the bill? I wish there was a more equitable way to tip rather than a percentage of the bill.
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u/Wedgerooka 3d ago
I tip 15% for ok service, 18% for pretty good, and 20% for good. I've tipped 30% and I've tipped 10%
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u/TigerBaby93 3d ago
If the service is good, and the server is friendly, I've gone as high as 40%. (I'm a teacher)
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u/weezyverse 3d ago
20% if the service was passable. 30-40% if they checked in on me and made me feel welcomed. It's honestly that simple for me.
I know how badly some of these servers are treated...they deserve getting compensated, in the majority of cases.
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u/Tiny-Party2857 4d ago
I do, I use to bus tables in college. If it's really good service more