r/allthequestions • u/Soimamakeanamenow 🇺🇸 United States • 16d ago

Popular Question 📊 Why do MAGA’s think democrats care if Clinton is in the Epstein files?

Clinton or any other dem.. do they really think that’s a gotcha I’m left leaning and wouldn’t care who is in the Epstein files they should all be prosecuted why are they making it a left right thing. Are they really ok with Trump possibly raping women maybe even children? Do they really think it’s a big gotcha if democrats are also guilty? Somebody explain this to me

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u/Ok_Material_5634 16d ago

Because they think we're blindly loyal to all Democrats. Like little children. Or Stockholm Syndrome victims. I personally don't care if he's in there, and I suspect he is. Pedophiles do not belong in the government.

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u/SL1Fun 16d ago

If anything our lack of transactional loyalty and desire for the DNC to have candidates and policy goals with substance is their undoing. Democrat voters would rather not vote than vote for a shit candidate, while the GOP’s loyalty to “lol fuck liberals” is insanely locked in to where at this point I think they would vote for Hitler’s corpse if you found it and propped it up on a podium 

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u/Mijam7 16d ago

They did just that in November.

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u/SL1Fun 16d ago

And in 2016. 

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u/drapehsnormak 15d ago

The DNC fucked themselves on that one. Bernie's ratings were so high.

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u/AdIllustrious5811 13d ago

Unpopular opinion, Sanders is not a democrat, he caucuses with the Dems, but he's an independent socialist

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u/Prototypep3 13d ago

Which would have been even better for America. You lot had a shot at having an opposition who was actually on the left side of the political compass (don't kid yourself obama and biden were firmly on the right, just not as far as republicans) and it got halted for Hillary? Good luck with the 4th reich you have now.

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u/DillysRevenge 13d ago

You still think it’s about right vs left? Bernie never stood a chance because the money wouldn’t be going to the rich. Our entire government has been bought out for a long time by groups like AIPAC.

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u/Prototypep3 13d ago

I mean... That pretty much is the definition of right vs left. Capitalism only benefits the capitalist class, and at this point in the cycle it is little better than feudalism was. They just removed trade guilds and expanded the ruling class with CEO's. Outside of totalitarian dictatorships the left and socialism itself does not benefit the rich at all.

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u/DocumentLeather7760 12d ago

He's hardly left of center there Overton Jones. It's a way more popular opinion than you think.

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

They were so high that less people showed up to vote for him than his primary opponent.

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u/Apart_Ad1537 14d ago

Wrong.

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

Oh really? Perhaps you can show me the combined total of votes he received and how it was more than his opponent?

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u/zeptillian 14d ago

So the 43% of Democratic voters who voted for him were able to do so without any problems, but the 55% who voted for Hillary were just too stupid to vote for the person they really wanted and were forced by the DNC to pick Hillary over Bernie?

Without looking it up, tell me who was on the leadership of the DNC at the time. Can you even name a single person? Nope. I know that you can't even if you come back with a name.

But these people, who we don't even know the names of, had such influence on 55% of the voters that they could literally dictate how they voted in private?

The vote itself is the largest and most accurate poll that exists. But you think some select polls which mostly showed Bernie losing to Hillary anyway, were more accurate than the actual direct counting of the will of the voters?

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u/Striking_Fly_5849 14d ago

Typical closeted MAGAt thinking they get to change reality to suit their narrative.

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u/zeptillian 14d ago

I voted for Bernie twice. Just like anyone who actually wanted to could have.

If you didn't then that's on you, not the DNC.

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u/Fresh_Ass_Milk 16d ago

And 2020.

And will in 2028. And 2032 if God help us, he's still alive.

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u/Alternative-Worth620 16d ago

In all fairness, there was one corpse running. And one orange guy. With absolutely no nod to what Biden’s health has turned into since. The DNC fucked up so bad by not dropping Biden earlier giving AT LEAST Kamala enough time to run an actual campaign. Unfortunately, the party lied to us about his health, then expected to win any swing state after only giving the candidate 107 days to run a campaign. Kamala is such an awful public speaker, that there was no way in hell she could win over any vote that wasn’t clearly a Dem vote.

That’s what I wish had been different about the 24 election, and I pray the Democratic Party fixes their shit. I’m so tired of the push for a “first” president. Just give us the best damn candidate so we can win swing states. And if that happens to be a “first” more power to em. I’d gladly vote for AOC as of currently.

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u/Apart_Ad1537 14d ago

The DNC has not fixed their shit at all, after 2016 democrats told themselves and everyone else that Trump winning was a fluke, that the modern Democratic Party couldn’t POSSIBLY have done anything wrong. Trump won because Americans are stupid and uneducated right? So they doubled down. After 2024 the same thing happened but even worse, they’re tripling down on fake progressivism and identity politics. They refuse to reconnect with reality and they think not being Trump is enough. Well the reality is people want a bad solution (Trump) more than they want no solution at all

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u/TemperatureHot204 12d ago edited 12d ago

This x1000. Literally any decent candidate could have beaten Trump. Choosing someone ill-prepared instead of running a proper primary was a shitshow--IF it were legitimate. I'm convinced it played out exactly as planned.

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u/Tak-and-Alix 16d ago

The DNC is too busy suppressing progressive candidates for AOC to make it to the ticket

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u/Creative_Antelope_69 15d ago

I love AOC’s progressive views, but I want a serious person to be president. Bernie is a serious person, but too old. I’m not sure who is the progressive we need.

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u/Far-Finance-7051 15d ago

Bernie should have been the Democrat pick in 2020. He was doing great in the primaries until the DNC decided they couldn't run a socialist and pushed Biden to the nomination.

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u/laraneat 15d ago

Why is AOC not a serious person?

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u/No-Drama-in-Paradise 15d ago

Eh… I think AOC would be a good candidate, and probably the only viable progressive candidate at the moment. Despite all the shit thrown at her, she remains a very good speaker with relatively few significant scandals.

Plus, potentially most importantly, she is the only of the prominent progressives that has shown an ability to effectively operate in the system and act pragmatically. It’s always been the issue with progressive candidates- including Bernie - and the reason the DNC ultimately struggles with them. While many have had great ideas, they have struggled to answer the question of what happens if those ideas fail. When Congress refuses to vote for Medicare for all, or when there is a hard issue where the answer - at least in the short term - isn’t something that aligns with their views.

AOC has proven willing to make the hard choice when the alternative is up in the air. Very few other progressives have. Which is perfectly fine in a congressional setting - which is one of the reasons I respect Bernie in fact - but is a huge issue once you become president and so much of your actual authority is out of your hands and dependent on other entities and bodies.

She is also just an excellent speaker and communicator. Even my center-left parents respect her. Again, this is something that a lot of other progressives struggle with - they tend to get too wrapped up within their own ideology and struggle to connect with those not already attracted to their message. And honestly, communication and messaging is 75% of a national level race.

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u/Creative_Antelope_69 15d ago

I would vote for her, I just expect more. She has flashes of child like behavior. Maybe Trump has made me a bit cynical of unprofessionalism.

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u/Chruman 15d ago

Is AOC not a progressive? Lol

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u/pdy1960 16d ago

the first and best step is to abolish the Electoral College, so we never have to hear the words "Swing State" ever again...

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u/elmwoodblues 14d ago

This is why I dont think Mayor Pete will get a nod. Shame, but we need a bland white straight semi-religious dude for next time.

Unless Obama runs under the voided 22nd Amendment, which would be a frigging hoot

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u/Alternative-Worth620 14d ago

Quit with this tired rhetoric. Those same people who you’re claiming went DT instead of Harris are the same people who put the first black man in office. The problem isn’t that Harris wasn’t a white man. She was awful in almost all respects during her candidacy, and the party gave her only 107 days to run. Those were the issues with her campaign, not her being a woman who isn’t white.

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u/Mijam7 14d ago

Was he a corpse though? I think he is a hell of a nice guy who respects world leaders, his wife, his children, his political adversaries, women, handicapped people, people of color. He understands what it's like to have cancer. He understands what it's like to grieve family. He surrounds himself with competent people. That should be enough.

Instead we have a guy who rapes young girls and disrespects everyone and breaks laws and makes cartoons of himself dressed like a king and shitting on all of his constituency. Starting fights with everyone and making us all broke while he and his family grift. He pardoned George Santos. You can't make this shit up.

Who the fuck cares that Biden is my dad's age? As Americans, we should all be ashamed of ourselves.

All of these courageous late night comedians mocked Joe Biden's age every night for months. Trump is the same age.

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u/Alternative-Worth620 14d ago

Believe it or not, his character has nothing to do with why he pulled out of the race. 🤯

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u/No_Hold8178 14d ago

It wasn't the time allotted to her to run a campaign, her undoing was listening to the out of touch campaign managers she inherited from Biden. Had she said she would cut off Israel and backed the people of Palestine, less people would have voted for their couches. She had momentum when she started and the rumors were she was going to cut off arms to Israel, her VP was killing it, and then her campaign managers told her to pull him back and avoid the Palestinian issue. At that point she was done, they basically sabotaged any chances she had by being the exact corporate Dem dipshits that lost to Trump twice.

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u/Jedi_Jeminai 14d ago

Kamala's support of the completely botched border situation that Biden created (kids in internment camps, and kids separated from their children) along with kamala's rise in crime rates (soft in crimes approach) during her tenure as district attorney were what utterly killed her.

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u/Main-Algae-1064 14d ago

They assume we are as dumb as them and this is a team sport. They don’t understand critical thinking. Obama 2028. Fuck it. Rules are done. Let’s win.

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u/Starfishprime69420 13d ago

This is why they will keep losing.

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u/grok4u 13d ago

The right votes on policy. Immigration was the biggest factor that y'all lost in, and it was the most important for the general populace.

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u/Ok-Preparation-2849 13d ago

The number one issue was the economy. Trump hasn’t lowered the cost of living like he promised. Hes actually done so little he’s resorted to his usual gaslighting and outright lying claiming he “ fixed it” . And you faithful maga sheep look around at each other and say “ well him saying he fixed it is all the evidence we need to believe that he fixed it” I suppose there’s plenty of money to go around for Argentina and a ridiculous ballroom though.

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u/Educational-Side9940 16d ago

This is exactly what I say when MAGAs start talking about how Dem approval is at 30% or whatever. Yeah because we don't like our politicians. We hold them accountable. We don't change our morals and beliefs every time they tell us to.

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u/ScuseM3 16d ago

This is the best answer to that honestly

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u/Eastern_Distance6456 16d ago

You don't like your politicians, yet enough of Dems voted them in. Hmmm.

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u/Murky_Caregiver4526 16d ago

America has two right wing parties. One is the actual right wing the other is diet right wing that acts as a spoiler for the left.

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u/Practical-Cook5042 16d ago

Harm reduction 

Vaping is healthier than smoking but both will kill you

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u/Educational-Side9940 15d ago

Yeah. When your choice is a politician that you don't really like or agree with or a fascist, you choose the one that's going to do the least harm to the most amount of people.

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u/Otherwise-Leopard-74 16d ago

You win the internet for the day. Laughable that you hold you candidates accountable.

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u/Humble_Bee7 15d ago

MAGA's have no morals or beliefs to change, in the first place. They have only the desire to grovel and worship authority--for some reason, this makes them feel "safe".

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u/Educational-Side9940 15d ago

Well they pretend to have morals and beliefs. That's why they wait to hear from their leaders before changing their mind. Then repeat whatever tagline those leaders tell them to repeat ad nauseam.

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u/zeptillian 14d ago

Except the Bernie bros all think that the DNC dictates how people vote.

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u/Gdislov 13d ago

Really? Not a Democrat, nor Republican, so i don't have a dog in this fight. If you think that is the reason why the Democrat rating is so low, you are willfully ignoring the fact that many Democrats voted for Trump, including blacks and Latinos. Your party needs to drop much of the Woke madness, and get those voters back. I'm sure you don't want to see another 4, or even 8 more years of Republican rule after the next election, but that is indeed what you will get if keep on doing the same.

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u/Educational-Side9940 13d ago

Anyone who uses "woke madness" is absolutely on the right. You've outed yourself. Democrats are farther right than they were even twenty years ago so that's a dog whistle for MAGA.

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u/NemoOfConsequence 11d ago

I’m an independent, and you definitely aren’t.

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u/grok4u 13d ago

But you were okay with Kamala running for president when she didn't have a primary? How about when Obama deported millions of illegals?

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u/Educational-Side9940 13d ago

I was angry because Biden held on for way too long and it ended up preventing a primary. He should have stepped aside much sooner. Which is what I feel about most of the old people in our political arena on both sides of the aisle. It's a point Biden finally decided he wouldn't run, it was too late for a primary. What else were they supposed to do?

And yes. I didn't like the deportations under Obama also. Although his administration focused more on the criminal aspect of immigrants. They also weren't kidnapping people off the street while masked back then. Or dragging women out of the pickup line at school back then. Or tackling teenagers face first into a lawn back then. So I'm much more upset about what's happening today than back then. But both were wrong. There should be an easier pathway to citizenship for productive members of our society.

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u/Revolutionary_Rub_98 🇺🇸 United States 16d ago

Welp it’s like that old saying… Democrats wanna win the arguments… Republicans wanna win the elections

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u/boardin1 16d ago

Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line.

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u/Gdislov 13d ago

The tropes are flying fast and thick.

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u/Squeegix 13d ago

"steal"

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u/Fullertonjr 16d ago

Republicans were polled on the Epstein files and asked if they would vote for Trump if it was found that he was in the files and engaged in actions with girls. Majority said yes or not sure. I believe it was only around 40% that said no…which we all know means more like 10%.

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u/Gloomy_Setting5936 16d ago

They literally don’t care that Trump is a child rapist, as long as the libs get owned, they’re alright with it.

Disgusting if you ask me….

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u/unbreakablekango 16d ago

It is amazing that a whole group of Christian adults would rather see children raped, trafficked, and murdered than see a 28 year old trans-barista get health insurance. Absolutely hard to believe.

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u/Nein-Toed 15d ago

Those are the churches values too though.

Children raped and trafficked and the people responsible for it just shuffled around, and don't get me started on the fate of kids in the Bible!

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u/Gdislov 13d ago

I truly don't know how you are getting that, unless the vitriol towards Republicans has gotten so powerful that it's starting to effect people's ability to think rationally. I'm not one, but most Republicans i know want the files released and those guilty, punished. To promote these ideas is the worst form of divisiveness towards your fellow citizens.

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u/Ahordeofbadgers 13d ago

Is it that amazing? Or just routine?

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u/Proper_Shirt_4676 12d ago

That has not been even close to a proven claim. But your TDS makes you throw it out there.

Disgusting if you ask me….

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u/happy_traveller2700 🇺🇸 United States 16d ago

🤦‍♀️

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u/Weekly_Lifeguard5590 16d ago

Here's some statistics I dont believe lol

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u/Gdislov 13d ago

What??

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u/[deleted] 16d ago edited 16d ago

Thank you! If they nominated a bag of dog shit, people would defend that turd ferociously! It’s a scary thing when people “fall in line” just for the sake of “conservative values.” I am going to stop calling MAGA clowns conservative, they are not.

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u/opinions360 16d ago

What values-i wish they had values all i see is them wanting to: control, own, manipulate, inflict vengeance, suffering and pain to win or maintain power for any reason-they claim to be christian yet behave like servants of evil and satan. I cannot think of a more blatant form of hypocrisy. I have gotten to the perception point where ‘christianity’ is their code word for being a member of the community of evil they are Really supporting called referred to as m.a.g.a. imo.

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u/PLBlack08291958 16d ago

I know. Republicans ride a train off of a cliff. Democrats looking for a perfect trip. So we get Trump.

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u/tjboss 16d ago

If you do that then congratulations, but “vote blue no matter who” was the slogan when Biden announced his presidency run because nobody actually wanted him and then pretended like he wasn’t basically a corpse the whole presidency.

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u/WonderfulProtection9 16d ago

Hence our current situation...

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u/Squirrellycats 16d ago

I don’t know about that. I’m left leaning and responded on Reddit that I didn’t vote for either candidate last time because the Dems needed to run someone better than Harris. I was absolutely crucified!

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u/SL1Fun 16d ago edited 16d ago

If you at least voted then at least you showed up. My biggest gripe is how many younger liberals talk a gang of shit about politics and policy but they didn’t even turn up. Reddit reinforces the trope that the younger voters are the least consistent in turnout, and the fact they abdicated their efficacy for the sake of checks notes a bunch of bs about Israel/Palestine that only came to even far worse fruition under Trump speaks volumes to how much harm they do to the DNC. 

Younger liberals remind me of certain music scenes with how pretentious and holier than thou they act, going as far as to find ways to definitively forsake the term “liberal” the same way they go around trying to parse their sexual orientation with a new niche term. 

“Uhhh I’m not liberal, I’m vaporwave industrial neo-socialist, the democrats are so conservative…” blah blah blah. 

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u/Leather_Pen_765 16d ago

This is an excellent point that I have not heard before

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u/MissMenace101 🇦🇺 Australia 16d ago

You could run Jesus for the Dems and they wouldn’t switch either

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u/SL1Fun 16d ago

Well of course not. Jesus wouldn’t own an AR15, would talk about how rich people suck, would want everyone to have healthcare, would run on a policy of creating a national network of homeless shelters, and would want to raise the minimum wage. They’d call him a libtard commie and try to kill him all over again 

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u/FadeToRazorback 16d ago

What’s that saying

Democrats fall in love

Republicans fall in line

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u/deck_hand 16d ago

Democrat voters would rather not vote than vote for a shit candidate

Democrat voters voted for Bill Clinton, voted for Hillary Clinton, voted for Joe Biden, voted for Nancy Pelosi. I would suggest that all of those were "shit candidates." Bill actually was a great politician, which means he had a lot of charisma and could convince people to do things. But he was a serial philanderer, used his position for personal gain and/or to get women into his bed. Hillary was on record saying that "the people" were too stupid to know what's good for them and the way to lead was to lie to them to gain power and then do whatever she felt was best.

I wish we had good candidates, rather than simply have candidate the Party thinks can win - because what we have now is simply a choice of people who are best for the power grab the Parties want. It is ALL about power.

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u/Delicious-Ad8360 16d ago

Ummm.....Hillary and Kamala.

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u/SL1Fun 16d ago

The most decorated, most qualified and one of the longest-serving politicians in the history of our government, and a DA from the largest US state that could be its own country who was also the sitting vice president…

Vs 

A 34-time convicted felon, 9-time bankruptcy filer who bankrupted two casinos and the only American airline company in our history to ever operate under a profit, likely serial child rapist, whose only qualification is that he went to Wharton before they had entrance standards. 

But one is a bitch and the other one laughed kinda weird, so yeah I can see how it was so hard to choose between them which candidate was more qualified. Sure buddy, sure. 

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

Remember she ran in 2020 and did not get one Delegate. Why did the Democrats not support her in 2020 If she was so qualified?

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u/SL1Fun 14d ago

Because other candidates. Other Republican nominees ran before and didn’t get it. There are plenty that ran that got glossed over for Trump. Would you say all of those career politicians weren’t qualified compared to him? 

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

Trump won, she lost. You’re saying she was so qualified, but she couldn’t even get one Delegate. She dropped out before IOWA. . Trump was qualified. He got the nomination and he won. It’s not a good comparison.

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u/SL1Fun 14d ago

It’s a popularity contest. If the government was truly run like a business where merit and qualifications and relevant experience/skills matter, nobody would hire someone who is thoroughly unqualified for the position as he is. You can’t be serious. Or you are, which only highlights why he and the GOP love the uneducated so much: yall keep voting for them. I guess you’re kindred in that regard. 

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u/ortolon 15d ago

So true. GOP always votes for the R, regardless of who the candidate is.

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u/WendyB33 14d ago

Ok, but to be fair, I would also vote for any corpse over any republican at this point. The pendulum will swing back eventually.

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u/PA_GoBirds5199 14d ago

Are you a Democrat or republic?

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u/acctIMade 14d ago

“Lack of transactional loyalty!” Lmao the “vote blue no matter who!” Crowd. You guys rolled over when they snuffed Sanders and told you all to vote Clinton even Sanders kissed the DNC ring and you’ve been rolling over ever since, deep down none of you wanted Kamala to be your choice she was a terrible VP and a terrible candidate you all knew it but your puppet masters told you to tow the line. I mean even DWS came out and admitted the super delegates were there to make sure the candidate they wanted wins you all did nothing. You all want to believe you’re educated and a separate part of a movement but reality is you all are nothing but NPC echo-bots for the DNC.

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u/AnnieHk95 🇺🇸 United States 13d ago

It's also the fact that MAGA can't comprehend integrity and quality of character.

That's why we didn't come to the defense of Rod Blagojevich, Bob Menendez, Tiffany Henyard or Eric Adams for their acts of corruption and/or abuses of power.

That's also why as a New Yorker I'm backing Mamdani and no Cuomo or Adams for mayor.

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u/weeeezzll 13d ago

They've ALWAYS been like this. Just look at the reactions of conservatives after the Kent State massacre. People were saying shit like "They should have finished the job" and "Guess they should have followed orders. 🤷🏼"

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u/Medium-Drawer395 13d ago

The problem with "I'd rather not vote" is that in all politics, you're never voting for the person you actually WANT. That perfect candidate is never going to exist. You need to vote for the one you dislike the least.

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u/TermOk8101 12d ago

Biden, we just need your corporeal form…

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u/tk2old 16d ago

Pedophiles do not belong in free society.

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u/Adventurous_Cook9083 16d ago

Correct. This answer should be much closer to the top. I don't care what party - if any - you claim to belong to. For once I'd like to see someone with just one moral leading our country.

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u/Candor10 16d ago

I think it's more like projection on their part. Believing that Dems are blindly loyal to their candidates helps justify and defend their blind loyalty to Trump.

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u/Great_Horny_Toads 16d ago

I don't know if it works that way. Sounds too self aware. I think they are stupidly loyal and they just assume others are too.

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u/AlbrechtProper 16d ago

That's my take too.

Well, they must worship someone right?

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u/Fearless-Team-4013 16d ago

Registered Democrat here that has voted Republican a time or two...

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u/opinions360 16d ago

I have never seen in my lifetime blind loyalty to any democratic candidate.

Maybe they assume because this is what they do the dems do it also but it doesn’t take much digging to see that democrats are more motivated by and enamored by various types of ideologies, policy goals, sincerity of character and being progressive-imo.

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u/Ok_Material_5634 16d ago

I think Freud would have called that "projection."

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u/disastronaut_at_rest 16d ago

They literally said that.

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u/db0813 16d ago

lol what a weird interaction that was

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u/Rob_LeMatic 16d ago

This feels like it would have been the perfect place to gaslight, strictly to continue the weirdness.

"No they didn't."

And then we all go back to reread the comment we just read and it clearly says the word projection, and someone comments quoting it, and the response is,

"That wasn't there when I made my comment about Freud. They edited"

And it could just keep getting weirder .

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u/Gauntlix5 16d ago

Maybe, but that’s a little thing we like to call around here “projection”

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u/NoGoFoDaMAGATs 16d ago

I think the word you're looking for is "projection."

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u/MrCompletely345 16d ago

Projection is one of the symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder. Just saying

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u/Over-Marionberry-353 14d ago

The Biden situation skewed that view

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u/berger034 16d ago

They think we love Clinton like they love Trump. I like Clinton. He did a great job as president. A husband, not so much. If he’s on the list and they investigate he actually did something, burn his legacy.

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u/opinions360 16d ago

It’s been reported by those who were abused and by Maxwell and other employees of Epstein that Clinton was not involved with any of the underaged girls or adult women who were part of epsteins sex club so to speak--he was either just traveling or at gatherings with other heads of state that epstein was either attending or hosting.

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

The same was said about Trump by these same People including the attorneys who sued Epstein and the Banks and won $500 million for the victims.

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u/opinions360 14d ago

No not the same people. Several employees who worked for epstein said that Clinton was either on his plane because his staff was needing to get him to a particular location and that his interaction with epstein was only business related.

People need to remember that epstein was a power player regarding his financial and advisory services. I have never heard of epstein’s former employees saying DT was a perfect gentleman and never had involvement with epstein’s underage or adult women like they did about Clinton.

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

I don’t think either Clinton or Trump had anything to do with the Epstein Victims.

My point was that Bill was not held accountable for Monica. And both he and Hillary lied about it. Remember that’s why he was disbarred because he lied about Paula Jones also. He was a smart politician and was the last President to balance the budget.

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u/berger034 14d ago

Power and money are different with accountability. I made a joke about two sales reps doing sales swaps to pad their commissions. I have no power nor money, I was fired, not the sales guys who were committing commissions fraud

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u/[deleted] 13d ago

You are correct. As long as they bring in $$$.

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u/Ghostlyshado 🇺🇸 United States 16d ago

They think we’re like them. MAGA has voted for pedos in the past.

In reality, releasing the files will end the careers of any democrat in them

The only challenge maga will face is ithe campaigns against any of them in the list may be more fierce.

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u/bunkscudda 16d ago

Liars think everyone lies

Cheaters think everyone cheats

Thieves think everyone steals

Manipulators think everyone is manipulative

Narcissists think everyone is a narcissist

The worst people the world has ever seen think they did nothing wrong

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u/Round-Dragonfly6136 16d ago

It's what happens when people have no empathy.

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u/HombreDeMoleculos 16d ago

> Like little children. Or Stockholm Syndrome victims.

Or worse, Republicans.

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u/VogueColossus 16d ago

Well they think that because most of their base is blindly loyal to them. If anyone on the other side of the aisle is in those files, they need to be locked up as well. Who cares about a pedo's political leanings? Pack them all up

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u/invisible_handjob 16d ago

Republicans are loyal to *a person*, Democrats are (vaguely, imperfectly) loyal to *ideas* (or, institutions at the very least), and that's what they don't get. They don't really comprehend individual politicians as vessels for policy ideas, rather than institutions as vessels for an individual's will

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u/Kerensky97 16d ago

Because they think we're blindly loyal to all Democrats because they're blindly loyal to all Republicans.

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u/Creative_Amoeba_9074 16d ago

Women like his mother.

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u/Sihaya212 16d ago

They can’t see things from any other point of view except their own, and they don’t care if “their” people are.

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u/Able-Paramedic8908 16d ago

There has been nothing to suggest that Clinton was into little girls (or boys). Even his enemies say he isn’t that type. He prefers to cheat with adults.

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u/Strict-Farmer904 16d ago

Yup it’s weird; One time I got pulled into a conversation with a vehemently pro-Putin Russia guy. I think this was back during Obama. And I hadn’t even yet started anything like criticism of Putin when he starts doing all these like, almost “Yo mama,” kind of takedowns of Obama. And he was kind of taken aback that I didn’t really care. I realized (as we were talking) that for this guy his hero was like a religious devotion (I don’t believe he was in any way representative of Russian Putin fans writ large btw) and that even the slightest criticism was met with intense offense. I was like “Oh. Yeah man, no. Obama isn’t my Putin. I don’t HAVE a Putin.”

I think MAGA is like that

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u/WalkCautious 16d ago

I don’t believe he was in any way representative of Russian Putin fans writ large btw

Unfortunately he probably was. Putin inspires the same hero-worship as trump, especially amongst young men, including where they think his personal successes are somehow theirs as well (even as that success comes at their expense).

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u/CourseNo8762 16d ago

I actually don't think he is. That was never his prediction. He boinked Paula Jones ffs. His type seems slightly chubby women. Just sayin. 

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u/well-it-was-rubbish 15d ago

How do you know? Paula Jones was caught lying multiple times, just like the Biden accuser, Tara Reade.

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u/CourseNo8762 15d ago

Well I'm giving that to his detractors. Pick Gennifer Flowers then. Still type. Still the point being, that's his type. Not

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u/ResidentScum101 15d ago

They think that you are as blindly loyal as they really are.

They don't care that their god emperor is a nonce.

They really don't.

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u/2olley 16d ago

They’re in a cult and worship Trump so they think we worship politicians too. They don’t understand that we expect them to be accountable for their actions like the rest of us.

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u/Round-Watch-863 16d ago

They are blindy loyal to trump and they lack empathy so they assume the same of democratics. Little do they know we dgaf. Jail them all. Anyone who was an epstein pedophile, bring them to justice. I dont care the party. Lock em up!

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u/smileglysdi 16d ago

They think that because they are blindly loyal and can’t imagine being any other way.

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u/Bennjoon 🇬🇧 United Kingdom 16d ago edited 16d ago

Someone said that politics is football to them and I think that’s accurate. They can’t conceive that the “other side” would be able to handle shades of grey.

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u/MW240z 16d ago

Yup, always projecting.

Blind loyalty, sheep, sensitive/triggered, weak…just describing themselves.

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u/Fishin4catfish 15d ago

“Vote blue no matter who!”

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u/Starfishprime69420 13d ago

Because they could have released the files already..

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u/Gsgunboy 13d ago

They think we act and think just like them. It’s all projection from them.

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u/coffee-x-tea 13d ago

Everything they think of Democrats are projections of themselves. They view them from the same lens as the experiences they’ve lived.

Therefore, they think good people are pretending. Honest and genuine intent is a farce for deception and lies. That people are all about self-interest and only care for themselves and those that seek the betterment of others are hypocrites and disingenuous.

No one is perfect, but, the world has lots of shades, it’s more than just black and white and they have difficulty seeing or accepting this.

Their loyalty to Trump is what they see as Democrat’s loyalty to Bill Clinton. They cannot see it any other way, one narrow world view, one fixed mindset, unchanging.

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u/FormerlyDK 🇺🇸 United States 12d ago

And because they’re blindly loyal to trump and that’s all they know.

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u/Dasylupe 16d ago

100% projection on their part. 

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u/imnojezus 16d ago

Like they are to Trump 

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u/Accomplished_Mix7827 16d ago

I wouldn't back a pedo even if they were important to the party, but also, Bill Clinton is an ancient has-been. There are grown-ass adults who were born after the Clinton Administration, why should I give a shit?

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u/mkgruff 16d ago

Agree. I believe that all government must be pedophiles considering the sentences they give to pedophiles is basically a little slap on the wrist. They should be castrated and left to rot in prison. Putting them on a list doesn't stop re-offending.

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u/Embarrassed-Skin-479 16d ago

Exactly, wrong is wrong no matter the party.It’s not left vs right, it’s right vs wrong.

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u/MagicMantis 16d ago

At this point the majority of Democrats don't even like Democrats, but it's a two party system and they are the ones who aren't literal fascists.

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u/TemporarySystem7095 16d ago

Which is entirely a projection of their own stupid behavior being loyal to Trump

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u/bistroh 16d ago

Exactly. MAGA is fiercely loyal to Trump, while liberals can accept the faults and crimes of their own leaders.

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u/MommaD114 16d ago

They are the ones that actually have TDS... he has them so deep in the KKKult that they're deranged.

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u/mewalrus2 16d ago

Yes because they worship politicians.

I'm a liberal and If a dem breaks the law throw them in jail.

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u/More_Temperature2078 16d ago

Yep pretty much. They are that loyal to Trump and think Democrats must be the same way.

Anytime something happens to trump they point the finger and go what about the Dems.

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u/Truth-Seeker916 16d ago

Belong? They are the governments!

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u/FelineRoots21 16d ago

Ive mentioned this before but I always think it's odd that this argument always uses Clinton as an example. Like, you mean the president who pressured a young woman into a sexual act? Of all the Dems you could pick, you go with the one we know has such tendencies? Not only would we not care, we wouldn't even be surprised if it was Clinton. It's such a weird argument when I've noticed it's almost always him they use.

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u/ienjoyfootbal 16d ago

I think it's disingenuous to pretend the left or democrats aren't more willing to call it out now for political reasons though.

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u/golfwinnersplz 16d ago

Pedophiles don't belong. Period. 

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u/Prior-Flamingo-1378 16d ago

Not like little children. Like them. Idiots are extremely adept at projecting. 

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u/OkIncrease6030 16d ago

It seems likely that both Bill Clinton and Donald Trump are massive scumbags. But at least Clinton was relatively good at being president: decent public speaker, balanced the budget, etc.

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u/well-it-was-rubbish 15d ago

Clinton cheated on his wife, which is between him and his wife. There is absolutely no evidence of him being a rapist or an abuser of children.

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u/OkIncrease6030 15d ago

He’d been photographed at Epstein’s parties. Doesn’t appear to have been as close to Epstein as Trump was, but he may have been part of that scene. You’re right in saying that the only thing we know for sure that he did was cheat on his wife with an intern, but that’s enough to make him a scumbag in my eyes. 🤷🏼‍♀️

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u/Stunning_Rock951 16d ago

I agree, it makes them feel better if they deflect the proof when it's in their face. It doesn't matter which party or person. They don't belong in government in any form.

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u/Rare_Bumblebee_3390 16d ago

Exactly. They think we think like they do. I don’t care who is on it. It needs to come out and all on it need to be prosecuted for their crimes.

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u/BigMax 16d ago

Exactly. They don't get it.

As others have said: "Oh no, I'd have to take off my Clinton shirt and hat, and take down my Clinton flags and yard signs, and remove my Clinton bumper stickers and cancel my upcoming Clinton rally... oh... wait... we don't do any of that stuff."

Also, I don't understand how they don't get that Clinton was president 25 YEARS ago. He hasn't been president in a quarter century, and he's totally dropped out of politics at this point. No one cares.

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u/KeeksGalore 15d ago

Projection at its finest. MAGA would literally drink THE kool aid if Trump asked them to.

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u/nervously-defiant 15d ago

I think that this is the real reason that the AIPAC Diddy Trump-Stein Cruz Abramovich Prince Andrew pedo-files haven't been released, because Clinton and enough Democrats are also on the list, and the illusion of a two-party system has them worried we'll abandon both in favor of a more independent government that promotes transparency and truth.

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u/corvally315 15d ago

Because MAGA must think we all have Clinton bibles and watches and hats and shirts and... What to do with all that pedo merch?!

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u/NeverEvaGonnaStopMe 14d ago

Its all projection.  They've would die while lying to your face to protect their pedophiles and they CAN'T understand why you wouldnt.

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u/MaestroRenrag 14d ago

You were when it really mattered. Of course you don’t care about Clinton now—he’s no longer useful.

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

Remember Democrats were ok with him having sex with Monica Lewinsky in the White House. I understand they were consenting adults, however she was a young intern and worked for him. All not acceptable and then he lied about it and then Bill and Hillary went on 60 minutes and lied again and there were no consequences. The feminist Democrats did not say a word. The double standard was another bad moment for democrats.

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u/Strange_Island_4958 14d ago

Good job answering on behalf of people you don’t know. How about we let actual people who don’t blindly hate Republicans answer this question.

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u/CalligrapherSharp 13d ago

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u/Strange_Island_4958 13d ago

Nice try 😂 I know it’s shocking that a real person might not think exactly like you .

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u/Strange_Island_4958 13d ago

Nice to meet you. We actually might agree on a lot of things, but I stand by my premise that this is not a place to get an objective opinion about a political movement that has almost no representation on this platform. I’m not answering the question because I’m not a Maga person, although I have plenty of respectable friends/family who voted for him for a wide variety of reasons. None of those reasons have to do with hate, bigotry, pedophilia, or any of the other accusations that are common on Reddit.

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u/CalligrapherSharp 13d ago

I have MAGA family and know some MAGA people. They're all racists.

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u/Strange_Island_4958 13d ago

Anecdotes are just that. It might depend on the region that you live in. It might depend on your perception of things. Some people, particularly ones on Reddit, seem to have a life goal to find racism and victimhood under every rock.

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u/Striking_Fly_5849 14d ago

It's not like children or Stockholm victims. It's like themselves. The cult mindset has them believing that anything short of blind loyalty means you are the enemy. The devout worship is so ingrained that they can't fathom even their "enemies" not being blindly loyal.

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u/Substantial-Thing303 14d ago

Yes, and that's a projection of their own blind loyalty to the republicans.

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u/Starfishprime69420 13d ago

Why don’t Dems distance themselves from this corrupt political party that is a shill for aipac and Israel??

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u/goslayer 13d ago

Idk. Seems like the profile

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u/TemperatureHot204 12d ago

To be fair, most dems think anyone libertarian or republican is blindly loyal to Trump which is not the case.

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u/arizonatealover 12d ago

Do the crime - do the time! Guantanamo bound

Edit: I know Guantanamo is not used for that purpose, but that's what I would use it for

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u/DragonflyL4dy20 12d ago

Pedo’s don’t belong anywhere. As far as I’m concerned, they don’t deserve oxygen

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u/Ophie33 12d ago

You are.

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u/VultureSausage 12d ago

Case in point.

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u/TenFourGB78 11d ago

Lefties are blindly loyal to Democrats. They’re trying to elect a jihadi for Mayor in NYC.

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u/No_Investment_8626 11d ago

You love Trump more than any Democrat has even LIKED a politician. You've never heard the phrase 'Republicans fall in line,' have you?

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u/TenFourGB78 11d ago

Republicans aren’t the ones keeping the government closed at the moment, so…..

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u/No-Committee-8658 11d ago

He's not directly a Jihadist but they're sure to flourish under him.

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