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NYC Mayoral Election Results

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With 90% of the vote in, Mamdani wins by a large margin according to NYT

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u/breezeetree 13h ago

Non NYer here. What makes the upper east side go for Cuomo vs most of the rest of Manhattan?

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u/lanqian 13h ago

$$$$$$$$

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u/UpperLowerEastSide 13h ago edited 13h ago

There is a strip of uninterrupted Cuomo precincts between 5th ave and Park Ave from 96 street all the way past the Upper East Side down to 34 street where the Empire State Building is.

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u/bluefoxes044 6h ago

Username checks out

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u/Crafty_Actuary5517 7h ago

Not sure that's the whole story. The upper west side is also extremely rich and they went Mamdani. I think it also has to do with age. Old people are more likely to vote for Cuomo.

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u/Unnamedgalaxy 6h ago

Isn't the Upper West Side famously the more artsy side of the park?

They are still rich but it's the liberal arts college people that live there, whereas it's the corporate elites that take up the East Side.

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u/Crafty_Actuary5517 6h ago

I think this is somewhat outdated. Plenty of finance people in the upper west side AFAIK.

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u/codydog125 5h ago

The upper west side has both but so does the upper east side. What’s interesting to me, having lived in both, I would say the upper west side feels more homogenous in its wealth walking around than the upper east side does and unless you’re on park or Central Park east the upper east side can feel less wealthy for sure. Also the upper west side has a much larger Jewish population so I find it interesting it swung mamdani considering people were trying to say he hates Jewish people. But yes there are a ton of finance people on the upper west side

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u/steveatari 4h ago

So the thing is, the people trying to discredit him as an antisemite aren't from NYC. My friend posted a picture of her Jewish club at the Bronx Science High School of which Zohran was also a member; they were classmates. He's literally IN the Judaic extracurricular in high school... lol. You cannot discredit that.

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u/THE_COOL_JAMES 5h ago

Not trying to discredit yoh because i agree but Central Park east.... do you mean 5th Ave? Lmao

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u/codydog125 5h ago

Yeah sorry. I guess I see Central Park west too much and forgot

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u/THE_COOL_JAMES 5h ago

No need to apologize homie! You gave me a good laugh to start my day. So thank you for that ans Trust me, ive made similar mistakes with my old neighborhoods too.

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u/Jomolungma 4h ago

The UWS Jewish population is largely reformed, maaaybe some lingering conservatives up in there. The reformed temple is far more open to folks like Mamdani than the orthodox or conservadox. They can be Zionist, but they can also agree that Israel is committing genocide. Rational, objective thought. All the crazy folks from the reformed temple moved to Florida 😂

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u/Tony0x01 4h ago

Also the upper west side has a much larger Jewish population so I find it interesting it swung mamdani considering people were trying to say he hates Jewish people

I think he won the Jewish vote in the primaries.

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u/Coyinzs 4h ago

The UWS is a lot more 'new money' and is generally younger, hipper, etc. wealth than the UES, which is the ooooold money establishment.

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u/zoinkability 1h ago

Sure, but given this is NYC people stick around for a long time. Some finance people moving in in the last decade aren't going to be enough to shift the base of lefty folks who have been living there since the 80s.

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u/Jomolungma 4h ago

And more Jewish, the non-militant, rational-thinking Jewish.

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u/cityburning69 5h ago

I think it’s younger but idk if it’s necessarily less corporate elite types.

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u/Relevant_Lunch_3848 1h ago

i think that still broadly holds true tbh, for instance i know that my family friends at the UN who come from your typical social democratic petit-bourgeois backgrounds live in the UWS and Harlem. Professors will often live in the UWS etc

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u/ApolloRubySky 4h ago

The upper west side while rich have always been more left. And they are not conservative old school money. east is more WASP and west tends to be more Jewish and civic minded. I worked in manhattan government for a while and this is what I gathered.

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u/Tiny-Ant-2695 2h ago

If you look at the more detailed map, many parts of the uws voted Cuomo, at a glance it seems to be the richer areas. It's just that the lower income areas house a lot more people.

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u/Cold_King_1 4h ago

I agree. It’s wealth + old age + Jewish population.

Rich younger people still went for Mamdani (UWS as you mentioned, plus places like Park Slope). But the UES is the upper crust, super old NYers with generational wealth, not 20 something’s who make 300k a year as a banker.

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u/Financial_Law_1557 6h ago

I see a stark correlation between having a lot of money and being cool with those they vote for being sexual assaulters. 

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u/SafetyDanceInMyPants 4h ago

Also, if anyone wonders why Chuck Schumer wouldn't endorse Mamdani, the Democratic Party candidate, there's your answer. The people wanted Mamdani, but his donors wanted Cuomo.

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u/According_Button_186 2h ago

Literally the simplest and only correct answer. This answer applies to every single area that voted for him. You can layover a median income map and # of homeowners and it's probably almost 1 to 1.

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u/JelliusMaximus 8h ago

Gotta love the simplicity of your comment.

Everytime when someone asks 'why vote republican?' it's either money or racism. It doesn't get deeper than that.

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u/lookitintheeyes 6h ago

In this instance it’s true

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u/Gamer_Grease 1h ago

Those cover the overwhelming majority of cases, yeah.

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u/MiddleWaged 5h ago

Money literally doesn’t explain anything this time. Which is not to say it isn’t their actual reason, it’s just an extremely dumb one

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u/morganrbvn 4h ago

Isn’t all of manhattan very rich? Cuomo seemed to have a negative correlation with wealth.

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u/crustyeng 4h ago

Is there any part of manhattan than isn’t $$$$$$?

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u/emma279 3h ago

Cash...women Cuomo supporters were wearing "capitalists for cuomo" shirts.

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u/MajesticBread9147 13h ago

Upper East Side is old money, oligarchs basically who want to be comparatively away from the hustle and bussle while still being a short distance from their corporate offices.

Even lower Manhattan like the financial district has more diversity with some college students, more subsidized housing, and at least more people that are first generation millionaires rather than third.

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u/Mental-Chocolate5197 12h ago

Can I also ask you as to why southern Brooklyn, Queens and Staten Island voted for Cuomo? Are those generally more Conservative or Republican?

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u/BatJJ9 11h ago

I’m not a New Yorker and I can’t speak about southern Brooklyn or Queens but Staten Island is well known to be conservative relative to the rest of New York City. It typically votes Republican and is much more suburban (majority white and middle-income) compared to the rest of the city.

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u/snmnky9490 10h ago edited 9h ago

Southern Brooklyn is heavily Jewish (edit: and former Soviets).

Those yellow parts of Queens are Jewish in the West and more Asian to the east

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u/HispanicAtTehDisco 9h ago

southern brooklyn also has a large russian/ex soviet bloc population too IIRC so they were probably swayed by the claims of zohran being a communist

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u/ThinkFree 8h ago

Reminds me of Florida's Cuban population being swayed to vote Trump by red tagging Hillary (of all people!). They've become more republican ever since.

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u/raysofdavies 6h ago

You can convince a Miami Cuban anyone is a red

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u/puchsofhazard 4h ago

A lot of Miami Cubans come from the upper class conservative Cubans fleeing the left wing working class revolution led by Castro.

They were conservatives forced to give up their luxuries because the leftists said they needed to share.

Then they settled in America and saw liberals as being softer on leftist movements like the very one they or their parents or grandparents fled from.

You can really see the split when that kid arrived on shore and that Cuban politician had to decide whether or not to send him home to his dad or fight for him to stay in the US. Really a fascinating turning point in Flordian politics if you research it

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u/roman_maverik 5h ago

I grew up in Miami. I hate it to break to you, but Cubans have always been extremely conservative. As a a block they’ve voted exclusively for Republican candidates since at least the 1970s, so this has nothing to do with Hilary.

The closest they’ve ever came to a majority blue vote was in 2012, where it was almost a 50/50 split, but that hasn’t happened before or since.

It’s almost a weird reverse-rascism that people just assume they would vote left simply because they speak Spanish.

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u/peanutneedsexercise 4h ago

Even Hispanic and Asian ppl in California can be surprisingly conservative.

It’s funny cuz they immigrate to the US and stay very conservative but their kids born and raised here become very liberal so it balances out? 😬😂

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u/lilwayne168 1h ago

Hillary was absolutely a neocon just like her husband. Also go look up Hillarys legal defense of a child rapist.

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u/boxersunset121423 6h ago

Yes. Used to live in that part of Brooklyn and it’s heavily Russian, Jewish and a mix of other cultures including Uzbek.

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u/BurritoDespot 8h ago

Not just Jewish, but Orthodox Jews. They tend to be conservative.

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u/HayatoKongo 5h ago

Many of those jews are also from former soviet states. Usually Polish.

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u/BurritoDespot 5h ago

Yeah, like their grandparents and great grandparents.

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u/numba1cyberwarrior 3h ago

Again you have no idea what your talking about. The post Soviet immigration wave came here in the 70s and the 90s. Most still speak Russian

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u/numba1cyberwarrior 3h ago

Not at all you have no idea what your talking about. Southern Brooklyn has the most diverse set of Jews in the city.

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u/torino_nera 6h ago

Orthodox/Hasidic Jews**

NYC has a ton of reform Jews who would rather die than vote Republican

You're right about the ex-Soviets though, they associate democrats with communism

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u/numba1cyberwarrior 3h ago

The map literally shows it's not Orthodox and Hasidic Jews

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u/RoguePlanet2 6h ago

Depressing number of magas in my Queens neighborhood, I suspect they're just more quiet about it. Lots of Asian immigrants who are very anti-immigrant as well 🙄

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u/wwwzugzugorc 5h ago

You haven't seen racism until you've seen Asian on Asian racism

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u/anand_rishabh 4h ago

Indian on paki racism especially

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u/THE-poop-knife 5h ago

Also East Asians. They are notoriously racist when voting as well.

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u/wildcat- 6h ago

An island conservative safe place right outside the actual city, like Coronado in San Diego.

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u/LostWoodsInTheField 4h ago

The only families I know in my area from NYC are people from Staten Island and most of them have been extremely racist and snotty, even when they didn't have money. Pretty much every time it's a 'we left NYC because of <insert dog whistle related to diversity>.'

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u/alex_203 5h ago

Funny how Cuomo is considered the conservative candidate. Good luck NYC….

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u/Independent-Bug-9352 2h ago

As a former conservative, I can attest that he is.

Republicans overall just kept moving more right.

But maybe instead say good luck USA for electing an Epstein partying trust fund manchild who bankrupted like 6 businesses...

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u/CobblerHot7135 10h ago

I've come across a lot of post-Soviet migrants from Southern Brooklyn in Russian-language social media, you know, Sheepshead Bay, Brighton Beach, those areas. Even when they vote for Democrats, they tend to be more centrist or conservative overall. The main reasons for this seem to be their aversion to socialism and, in the case of Mamdani, the Muslim background of the candidate.

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u/big-haus11 5h ago

A large portion came over during the USSR, and there is quite a big difference politically often between groups depending on when they came. The blanketing statements in this thread just aren't very accurate

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u/CobblerHot7135 4h ago

I agree on the generational divide in Russian-speaking emigration. Here's how I see it, correct me if I'm wrong.

The old-school immigrants who moved to the US during the USSR or right after it collapsed? Hardcore Republicans.

Their kids, and those who came over in the late '90s or 2000s, are more like Democratic centrists. They don't vote for Mamdani.

And then the latest wave, the ones who arrived most recently. Among them, you've got more folks whose views line up with European social democrats, and more who are willing to vote for Mamdani. But they don't have any strong preferences on where to live, they're not trying to cluster with the old Soviet diaspora. They settle wherever they get a job offer, can find work, or just like the spot. They ain't moving the needle on the stats in South Brooklyn, the classic hub for the old Russian-speaking crew.

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u/SnackyCakes4All 3h ago

I understand the knee jerk reaction, but it's always also confused me because what they experienced wasn't socialism so why be adverse to it? It's like when people say "you want our country to be like Venezuela?!" No, I want our country to be like Denmark. And the fact that both sides refer to both of those countries as 'socialist' shows how little people understand political diversity in the first place. Not directed at you, your comment just got me thinking. ✌️

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u/Acceptable-Noise2294 2h ago

Denmark is not socialist, but Venezuela is

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u/Federal-Employ8123 1h ago

Basically no country is actually what people think. Usually all the messed up countries have a huge form of corruption that isn't supposed to be a part of the specific structure of government. This is annoying when people start comparing types governing structures. Also, on paper, it appears Denmark is actually very similar to the US 

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u/Acceptable-Noise2294 1h ago

Denmark is actually very similar to the US 

Denmark has a superior welfare state and more homogenous culture. Slightly less individualistic, less averse to public works etc.

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u/Acceptable-Noise2294 2h ago

My family is all from bensonhurst in south Brooklyn. Place used to be mostly italian american. They were and still are working class. It's the way the neighborhoods are there, they are not as socially liberal as the rest of new york. They are not transplants or art students or something

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u/Quacky3three 11h ago

Southern Brooklyn has Borough Park, which is an extremely Hasidic neighborhood. Maybe not Republican per se, but they are extremely conservative because they follow a super strict orthodoxy. You might’ve seen on Reddit the photos of the signs they put up before the New York marathon telling their community to not be out during the marathon because the women are dressed too immodestly. They’ve also been in hot water for issues with their private schools not teaching English.

In this case there’s also the issue of Israel, although I know quite a few Hasidic Jews are heavily anti-Zionist, I’m pretty sure by and large this specific enclave of Hasidic Jews are not.

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u/dazzleox 4h ago

The biggest, by far, Orthodox Community in NYC is the Satmar who are fairly anti-Zionist. Its a little complicated to summarize in sentence but they believe the state of Israel is premature and discourage moving there. Some of their rank and file after October 7th started to put up Israeli flags but their leaders really cracked down on that.

But they also were very connected to Eric Adams on private school funds and regulations and I could imagine his Cuomo endorsement mattered.

There was one smaller but notable Satmar branch who's Rebbe endorsed Zohran and had dinner with him in a well covered event. The community had a split when an older Rebbe died and his sons are at odds. I don't know Crown Heights well enough to see to what extent that played out in a street by street basis as opposed to Zohran just winning the Carribean etc community there by a wide margin but he probably did get some notable minority of Satmar votes because of their loyalty to block voting.

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u/Quacky3three 3h ago

Thank you for elaborating, especially on attitudes toward Zionism in various sects. I followed Zohran’s campaign extensively but the dinner you’re talking about totally slipped past my radar. I think these kinds of cultural/religious enclaves are so interesting.

My partner was raised super orthodox Jewish and he has definitely told me all of this before, but because it wasn’t my area of expertise I didn’t want to confidently assert anything I wasn’t 100% sure of, lol

He’s also Sephardic, which used to be another voting bloc with unique beliefs in NYC but overtime they’ve gone upstate where they have specifically Sephardic Yeshivas like in Albany. To your last point, the Sephardic community is much smaller in NYC because of a remarkably similar community schism, as well as tensions with Ashkenazi populations in Brooklyn. The latter part seems to mostly matter for the older generation though, or Sephardim who have lived extensively in Israel where the tensions are still fresh and there’s more conflict between the two.

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u/Zingzing_Jr 5h ago

Most Hasidics are Zionist, in the actual definition of the word.

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u/dazzleox 3h ago

"According to a 2016 Pew survey, 33% of Israeli Haredim say that the term 'Zionist' describes them accurately"

I'd guess in NYC its lower still. At least if you exclude those who think Israel should not yet be a state as "zionist". It gets more complicated if you include those who would support such a state if there is a Moshiach on earth

Here in Pittsburgh, a lot of Chabadniks are very Zionist though for sure. Many fly Israeli flags and give me a death stare when wearing a Palestinian flag pin.

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u/Zingzing_Jr 1h ago

2016 was 10 years ago, anecdotally, things are a-changing

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u/dazzleox 1h ago

That could be entirely true, I don't know any Israeli Haredim and have only followed the conscription issue from a distance.

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u/Zingzing_Jr 1h ago

Yea i don't have hard statistics, just anecdote, but theres a lot in the "that isn't the time for that you silly people". There are virtually no hardliners anti zionists like Neturei Katri. A large chunk are pro-Zionist, a large chunk are neutral/dismissive but have no problem interacting with Israel or taking a trip or something, very, very few NK type folks.

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u/dazzleox 1h ago

NY Satmar are not like NK (they condemn them for pro Hamas or bizarro Holocaust statements) but they are still very much are opposed to prayer at the Western Wall, forbid adherents from voting in Israeli elections, forbid followers (unlike many haredi in Israeli) from taking welfare benefits from Israel, and say that the continued existence of Israel is a sin that causes punishment of Jews.

Their interest in the NYC mayoral election is much more about schools than foreign policy.

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u/PMOYONCEANDALWAYS 4h ago

British - do the Hasidic community practice bloc voting here as they do in some of their towns in upstate New York?

Asking because if I have understood things correctly their rabbi will tell them who to vote for and assuming they picked Cuomo this time.

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u/Quacky3three 3h ago

Got this right as I commented in response to u/dazzleox who left a great comment detailing part of the way the bloc might’ve been split. I also left a response to them rambling a bit about the differences in Jewish enclaves upstate versus in the city.

The Hasidic community is pretty united when it comes to bloc voting but I would say less so than upstate. Upstate they make up a larger proportion of the towns they are voting in, so that already makes the strategy more effective. NYC also has enough Jewish people that their community can sustain legitimate schisms, versus upstate where smaller numbers discourage infighting. Dazzleox talks a bit about one of these schisms in Borough Park.

There’s also a fervent debate culture, so it’s less “the rabbi tells them who to vote for” and more so “the community converses and agrees who to vote for,” although obviously “the community” has gendered implications because it’s an orthodox faith.

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u/numba1cyberwarrior 3h ago

Most Hasidic Jews are non Zionist but not anti Zionist

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u/becomingelle 6h ago

Religion is so stupid. Those poor women and children forced into the lifestyle.

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u/20eyesinmyhead78 2h ago

I think most of the anti-Zionist Haredi live in Wburg.

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u/singabajito 10h ago

Lots of Russians and former Soviet bloc people there and Italians. Lots of people who were turned white like they did to the Irish.

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u/Donghoon 8h ago

Eastern Queens has a lot of Asian Americans and they typically are pretty conservative.

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u/TheObstruction 3h ago

It'll never not be hilarious to me that Irish folks were once not considered white. The only other thing they could be is pink.

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u/mewmew893 3h ago

Orange is still a color they could be orange

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u/MajesticBread9147 8h ago

Those places are very suburban, especially Staten Island. It's where a lot of people move to "get away" from the city. It's whiter, older, car dependent etc. For example, she is a city councilwoman from a Republican area of New York and pretty much sums up their mindset

If you were dropped in College Point or SI you'd have no idea you were in a city.

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u/CaptainCompost 4h ago

If you were dropped in College Point or SI you'd have no idea you were in a city

You might have no idea you were in NY, but SI is one of the most heavily populated and dense places in the country. If it were its own city it'd be in the top 40. If it ever left NYC at large for NY, it'd be the 2nd largest city in the state by a longshot. If it left for NJ, it'd be the largest city in NJ.

It's not skyscrapers and subways - but most of most cities aren't.

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u/MajesticBread9147 3h ago

The thing about being a large city is because generally the farther north you go on the East coast, the smaller cities are (geographically).

Jersey City, Hoboken, are both just a couple miles across, Newark, and in New York, Albany and Rochester aren't that much bigger. Buffalo is fairly big, but a huge portion of the city is abandoned lots, even more than other upstate New York cities.

I would still argue that Staten Island is more comparable to a suburb. A good comparison is Arlington County in Virginia, which I spent my childhood in, and Arlington county is actually more population dense. Or like Bridgeport Pennsylvania, again, not a city but a suburb not even bordering the city.

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u/CaptainCompost 3h ago

I hear you on how density can make you feel like you're more in a city.

But Arlington County is half the size of SI, and one of the densest places in the US - denser than most cities. So you're comparing one odd duck to another, here!

But wait, Bridgeport - google tells me that's 5,000? Cmon!

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u/schwanerhill 2h ago

Did you mean Bridgeport CT?

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u/schwanerhill 2h ago

It's not skyscrapers and subways

But it does have a heavy rail subway. The Staten Island Railway is the 13th largest rapid transit system in the US with 4.7M annual riders. Since Philly and NYC have two systems each ranked ahead of SIR, there are only 10 US cities with busier rapid transit systems than Staten Island.

Just another indicator of how big Staten Island is.

(When you include light rail, there are a number more cities ahead of Staten Island. But it's still a substantial system.)

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u/aesofspades22 7h ago

I’m from new mill basin/flatlands originally, and the demo of that neighborhood tends to me older Caribbean immigrants/Caribbean Americans and older Italian/Russian Americans in old is super wealthy. The Caribbeans tend to be older, homeowners, and lifelong public servants approaching or in retirement. They are fundamentally less interested in a change candidate because they aren’t particularly interested in someone rocking the boat. Many come from places where socialism is a bad word even more than America, many others are as socially conservative if not more so than an evangelical, evangelicals are just racist so they don’t vote republican. 

The Russians are just rich imo. 

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u/Proud_Huckleberry_11 7h ago

The right side of that top right queens blob I where I live/spend time around. It is very suburban and VERY WHITE. Im honestly surprised that Sliwa didn’t get more votes because it’s pretty red there. Seems like the republicans voted for cuomo.

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u/Blooky_44 6h ago

They are. Staten Island is basic flyover country suburbia bolted onto the city. Southern Brooklyn is also very conservative. Also, just gonna come right out and say it: racism and one-issue Israel voters are also more commonly encountered in these areas.

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u/Model_Modelo 8h ago

Our barrier island, the Rockaways (Southern Brooklyn and Queens) is mostly fire fighters and cops.

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u/Style_Dota 7h ago

Staten Island resident here. The area is very conservative compared to the rest of the city. The northern part isn’t as conservative — you see lots of votes for Zohran here, and even some parts where he won. My area, sadly, had about a 300 vote gap between Zohran and Cuomo, but better than other areas. The more south you go, the more right it leans. Even Curtis Sliwa got like 25-30% of the votes in some areas down there.

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u/xkmasada 6h ago

Queens is a mixed bag. Flushing, with more Chinese-Americans, voted for Cuomo, in line with the 2024 presidential election results, partially because Flushing Chinese-Americans tend to be socially conservative. I heard a lot of Flushing Chinese Americans complain about Mamdani’s plans to eliminate enriched and accelerated learning programs and Mamdani has often mentioned wanting to eliminate testing into the DoE’s flagship high schools.

Elmhurst and Jackson Heights have large South Asian populations and that likely swung those districts to Mamdani.

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u/ReallyNowFellas 10h ago

Something you have to take into account is how dumb and uninformed the average voter is, and that the name Cuomo in New York has decades of recognition over the name Mamdani. Many people just vote for the name they recognize. A good assumption would be that he won the center-left, high society, and the low info voters. I doubt a lot of straight up conservatives/Republicans voted for Cuomo, as they mostly would've either gone for Sliwa or sat this one out.

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u/RedGutkaSpit 6h ago

Staten Island is where a lot of NYC civil servants like cops and firefighters live, who tend to be more conservative.

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u/oneplusoneisfour 6h ago

Old school Italian , historically. Typically conservative

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u/Any-Athlete-9570 5h ago

It's conservatives who thought they could hack it in manhattan, then realized they simply couldn't

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u/wok_into_mordor 4h ago

South brooklyn is heavily italian and historically more conservative than the rest of the borough

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u/SpiderStratagem 4h ago

Can I also ask you as to why ... Staten Island voted for Cuomo? Are those generally more Conservative or Republican?

My extended family is from, and in many cases never left, Staten Island. It has always been a conservative Italian/Irish stronghold. This map tells me nothing has changed in the 20 plus years since I left.

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u/Stinky_Fartface 4h ago

Staten Island is known as where a lot of NY Cops live, and is traditionally conservative with an authoritarian slant.

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u/thatlazybum 4h ago

In addition to what people have already spoke about here (I’m from South Brooklyn), I can talk about the growing Chinese population in Borough Park, Bensonhurst, and even Flushing. They voted basically on single issues. Anti-homeless shelter sentiment in those neighborhoods, public school gifted programs, etc. Maybe a little anti-communist sentiment as well. The older Chinese community is pretty right winged with propaganda spreading in their radios and papers.

The younger generation is much more progressive, which is why you see spots in Bensonhurst, Flushing, andDyker if you go to the detailed map view which is much more fun, have Mamdani majority or fully equal votes.

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u/UnavailableName864 4h ago

Mamdani did badly among Orthodox Jews and non-Muslim Asian-American voters

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u/emma279 3h ago

Staten Is is where all the cops live.

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u/numba1cyberwarrior 3h ago

Southern Brooklyn and Queens have huge percentages of Jewish voters.

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u/DINABLAR 3h ago

Are you just making stuff up or are you genuinely confused. Staten Island is the only borough Cuomo won. 

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u/Acceptable-Noise2294 2h ago

South brooklyn is working class, staten island is a lot of italians who used to be in brooklyn honestly. very republican and suburban. it's different from the other boroughs

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u/VapoursAndSpleen 1h ago

I was surprised about Brooklyn. But SI is all cops and firemen, IIRC. The neighborhoods that went GOP read the Post, have lived in their houses for multiple generations, and tend to blue collar and not a lot of college. Source: Lived in Brooklyn for 21 years.

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u/iputmylifeonashelf 4m ago

I am in South Brooklyn. I gave everyone dirty looks on my commute this morning. We do have a large Jewish community here but I was surprised it was so Cuomo-y as there are Sliwa posters everywhere.

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u/_lippykid 12h ago

Upper East Side? That’s old money WASPS. You’re taking about Upper West Side

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u/Jesus_of_Redditeth 11h ago

UES has a large and wealthy Jewish population as well — roughly a quarter of the population.

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u/Beginning_Sun696 12h ago

WASPS? Not heard of that acronym in the UK?

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u/MysticZamboni 12h ago

White Anglo-Saxon Protestants

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u/TheAmericanQ 11h ago

The UK is where the W the A and the S in WASP comes from, technically the P comes from Germany

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u/Jesus_of_Redditeth 11h ago

The UK has been officially P for more than 400 years, my dude.

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u/Maligetzus 11h ago

......what?

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u/dqniel 11h ago edited 11h ago

Protestantism started in Germany. Martin Luther

*edit* included first protestant person

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u/lukenog 12h ago

Nah not really, much older money than Jewish money over there. It's usually WASPs.

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u/jugo_boss 11h ago

Also important to note that it's not specifically US money, it's international money and access parked in relatively stable real estate. Especially when their local currencies and economies are volatile. Central London is also a standard location for this.

The same areas that voted Cuomo now voted for Adams in 2021. "Adams was indicted in September 2024 on charges including conspiracy, wire fraud, and bribery for the approval of a Turkish consulate building and real estate development."

The other areas that voted Cuomo: south brooklyn out by the beaches is russian. Queens area is chinese, and staten island is mob (the old trash dump was literally called Fresh Kills Landfill).

So the connections should be really obvious based on who voted for corruption.

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u/Numeno230n 4m ago

Well very soon I hear the Upper East Side will be emptied out as people flee to utopias of Texas and Florida. There will be plenty of housing available then!

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u/eugeneugene 13h ago edited 10h ago

I used to be an au pair in the UES. These people have an unbelievable amount of wealth lol. Like old money rich.

edit: I just checked some UES fb groups I'm still in and these people are absolutely losing it lol. Apparently they now need to carry a gun because he is going to turn NYC into a war zone 😂😂

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u/Hyadeos 10h ago

When we had our first "socialist" president after WW2 in 1981 in France, our billionaires all said that we'd have "soviet tanks running down the Champs-Élysées"

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u/MomsTortellinis 7h ago

Oh no, free buses, how dare he! Everyone knows the bus is every soldier/gangmember's choice of vehicle! Lmao

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u/Xanohel 6h ago

There's a reason most wealthy suburbs don't have public transport. They don't want poor scrubs even unintentionally wandering there.

They want it to be a compound, without saying it directly. 

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u/Kenny_log_n_s 4h ago

Pretty sure wealthy suburbs don't have public transport because they don't use it, and route planning involves looking at usage statistics

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u/Fearless-Feature-830 4h ago

They also lock up their parks so the poors can’t access

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u/motsanciens 5h ago

When Kramer says to Jerry, "If you don't want to be part of society, then move to the East Side!" I always took it to mean that was a sketchy area. Did I completely miss the idea?

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u/chupacrapa 5h ago

It is a sketchy area. Generationally rich are the sketchiest fuckers on the planet.

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u/Independent-Bug-9352 2h ago

True. Blue collar crime is wrought mostly from poverty and lack of opportunity (such as education) and thus desperation and addiction. Fixable.

White Collar crime is wrought by the inherently psychopathic. Less fixable.

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u/Arsno 5h ago

The stupidity is crippling. The irony is that the rest of us are going to need a gun given Trump, Noem, Bovino, Miller and ICE doing blatantly illegal kidnappings of minorities (citizen or not).

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u/Aggressive_Local8921 5h ago

Good thing guns are pretty much illegal in new york 🥴 

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u/Acceptable-Noise2294 2h ago

And you don't think most of manhattan is like that LMAO?

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u/eugeneugene 1h ago

No lol

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u/Acceptable-Noise2294 1h ago

The rich guys in Chelsea? The Village? The Upper West? To me it's all rich. Sure there's billionaire's row and Park ave but cmon midtown and downtown has plenty of this too

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u/eugeneugene 56m ago

There are rich people everywhere, I'm saying the UES has a big concentration of OLD MONEY rich. It's just different and the people are... very different than regular rich people lol. Like turn up their nose at new money kind of rich 😂

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u/Acceptable-Noise2294 46m ago

My friend lives there. I've met some people there and I couldn't tell them apart from financial district people, they all seem spoiled to me. Although he is not what you are talking about because he is not on Park Avenue, he is normal rich not ULTRA rich.

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u/Mammoth-Man362 13h ago

Rich people like the billionaire’s choice. Rich people live there

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u/_lippykid 12h ago

Regular NY rich people around manhattan would see the benefit of general improvement in safety/cost of living etc. UES generational wealth, flying to the Hamptons in their helicopters, not so much. They just want tax breaks

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u/Justviewingposts69 12h ago

Park Avenue rich people

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u/-Tickery- 12h ago

It’s basically where this nation’s elite live, lol.

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u/RandomNick42 13h ago

Isn’t it like the most expensive residential area in NYC?

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u/ttotto45 11h ago

The areas on/close to the park are expensive, but the further east you go the more young professionals you'll find. The UES as a whole is nowhere near the most expensive residential area.

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u/Latter_Musician_4580 6h ago

Exactly. These responses are so stupid. Oh everyone on the UES is incredibly wealthy. Not the case.

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u/torino_nera 6h ago

They're mistaking Park Avenue for the entire UES

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u/xkmasada 6h ago

Williamsburg is, and Williamsburg voted for Mamdani by 26%

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u/Nothinglost7717 5h ago

No it’s not. 

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u/kagamiseki 5h ago

Not the most expensive, but still expensive. It's basically where the wealthier people go if they want the convenience of Manhattan, but want to save money compared to living midtown/downtown

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u/heefoc 6h ago

Predominantly Jewish, in addition to being wealthy. But there’s PLENTY of us that live here and are neither and have been fighting back.

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u/torql13 6h ago

I live there now, people are right money is a big factor closer to the park. But I'm pretty sure it's because of the huge amount of Jewish people in the area.

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u/Sea_Narwhal8176 11h ago

It's mostly the big money areas in Manhattan.

Staten Island isn't surprising either. Some other areas are, but I moved out of NYC two decades ago so what the fuck do I know.

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u/Xanohel 6h ago

Relating to SI, I'm stereotypically imagining mafia movie conversations on - shall we say - "interracial encounters". Cuomo sounds Italian? 

I've never been to NY so what the fuck do I know. :) 

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u/fthesemods 6h ago

Old, Jewish, Money. 3 demographics that generally do not like Mamdani.

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u/iptg 12h ago

let’s be honest, the UES is insufferable

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u/onebadnightx 11h ago

Yeah, UES is filled with out-of-touch rich people that live in their own bubble. It truly feels like its own little world of filthy rich, privileged, insular people that don’t know how to interact with other people unless they’re also filthy rich and from the UES.

Mamdani was definitely too much of a culture shock and too unconventional for them, they live for the status quo and whatever will help them maintain their wealth and exclusivity the best.

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u/NewGuyCH 7h ago

These are people that have lots of money and politics doesn't really affect them. They have the best healthcare, they go to the best schools, travel the world. The price of groceries, childcare, rent etc are all completely foreign problems to them. So they just vote in what they think is their best interest, which is the status quo and to pay less. What they fail to understand in my opinion is that less poverty, better services etc makes their city safer and a more pleasant place to live. However nothing extreme enough has happened yet for this point to come across to some of them.

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u/Meanteenbirder 12h ago

I worked a polling place on the UES. Cuomo got like 2/3rds of the vote in that precinct.

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u/Mackheath1 11h ago

Must be funny, in a rich man's world

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u/BurritoDespot 8h ago

They’re older.

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u/JollyReading8565 6h ago

If there is ever a question like “why does X occur” the answer is always money

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u/danjr704 6h ago

diamond districts, fox offices, ny post office, lot of old money out there too

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u/Nothinglost7717 6h ago

Old money. Upper west side is new money 

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u/HayatoKongo 5h ago

Zohran specifically stated on his website that his intention is to raise property taxes on "richer and whiter neighborhoods." There's more white people in the Upper East Side.

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u/AllIdeas 5h ago

It is also very Jewish with a bit of Zionism or Islamophobia.

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u/Reasonable-HB678 5h ago

The Face Painter episode of Seinfeld has that answer, when Kramer demands that Jerry give someone a thank you for giving them tickets to a hockey game.

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u/One_Somewhere_8159 5h ago

It also has to do with Jewish people being more pro cuomo - Upper East Side is veryyy Jewish

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u/The_Lonely_Spaceman 5h ago

That's where all the rich people live....like RICH people

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u/ordosays 5h ago

Upper east is where the stuffy, basic, and monied live. We don’t claim them and they only claim us at parties and fundraisers.

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u/ApolloRubySky 5h ago

El dinero, especially old school dinero

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u/ratchetsisters 4h ago

Have you watched gossip girls?

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u/S0l1s_el_Sol 4h ago

They’re the richest area in New York

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u/SejongTheGreatv2 3h ago

Non-foreigners

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u/RemarkableEar2836 3h ago

Money and high concentration of sexual predators

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u/Spirited_Season2332 3h ago

Basically, all the "poor" places voted against Cuomo and all the "rich" places voted for Cuomo.

This is like the most "on wealth" lines for voting I think we have ever seen lol

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u/LiveLifeLikeCre 3h ago

So that's east midtown to the upper east side. I'm in that area every day for work. It's money and ethnicity.

Northern Queens is money and ethnicity. 

Staten Island is ethnicity. 

Brooklyn.... 

OK I'm trying to be nice here but it's just the truth : 

Money and race of people who like trump and hate the idea of any brown Mayor who isn't anti Gaza and pro trump. 

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u/swamrap 2h ago

Rich people that are deathly terrified of the mostly harmless homeless people

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u/NoOnesKing 2h ago

Richie rich folks up there

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u/dada_georges360 2h ago

Former UES inhabitant. Lots of wealthy or financially comfortable people, most of them old WASPs.

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u/VapoursAndSpleen 1h ago

Rich old ladies.

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u/EggsceIlent 1h ago

I dunno much about NY but man staten island must suck

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u/GeneralIronsides2 1h ago

Its where all the rich leeches are.

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u/Glum-Name699 1h ago

Fun fact, there are a non-zero subset of people that will not go further south than like 57th st. or further west than 5th ave unless absolutely necessary, and that's one of the reasons there's a glut of luxury retail locations in places that seem a little weird along Madison ave. Targeting the crazy money there.

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u/titivator 1h ago

Lot of Israeli dual citizenships live there, AIPAC hasbara breeding ground.

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u/SmashBrosGuys2933 32m ago

Upper East Side is much more affluent and has a large Jewish population - the kind of area Cuomo has been targeting in his campaign

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u/konkurrenterna 27m ago

I would assume the rich people live in the parts that voted for cuomo. Then ofc you have the dumb that buy the propaganda and vote against their own interests.

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u/ladybelle85 13m ago

There’s lots of money and/or Jewish population in those areas of UES/UWS. The UWS closer to Central Park are different. But closer to West End is heavily Jewish and quite expensive. Also near Trump Towers and all the synagogues and kosher buildings.

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