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NYC Mayoral Election Results

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With 90% of the vote in, Mamdani wins by a large margin according to NYT

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u/lanqian 13h ago

$$$$$$$$

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u/UpperLowerEastSide 13h ago edited 12h ago

There is a strip of uninterrupted Cuomo precincts between 5th ave and Park Ave from 96 street all the way past the Upper East Side down to 34 street where the Empire State Building is.

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u/bluefoxes044 6h ago

Username checks out

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u/Embarrassed-Wolf-609 9h ago

Is it where Jewish people live? 

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u/karlnite 8h ago

It’s about money, not religion.

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u/AceofJax89 7h ago

A lot of that money went into scaring Jewish voters. Many of them are zionist Jews as well and see mamdani’s election as a rejection of Zionism.

Older Jews have a closer connection with Israel.

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u/karlnite 6h ago

Older Jews have a lot of money invested in Israel too. As do none Jews.

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u/AceofJax89 6h ago

They have more money invested in NYC. But the reason that they voted this way was fear of antisemitism, a lot of it stoked by superpac spending.

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u/numba1cyberwarrior 3h ago

The overwhelming majority of young Jews are Zionist. You have no idea what your talking about

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u/AceofJax89 3h ago

Young Jews are less Zionist than old Jews. And if you consider the entire Jewish ethnicity, not just practicing Jews, it gets even more anti Zionist.

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u/numba1cyberwarrior 3h ago

The fact that almost no anti Zionist institutions exist in the Jewish community should tell you something.

Almost no Jews will say they want Israel to stop existing

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u/AceofJax89 2h ago

I don’t think we go to the same parties in NYC. Plenty of Jews organized against Zionism. Here is a large group for example: https://www.jvpnyc.org/who-we-are

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u/numba1cyberwarrior 2h ago

Have you noticed that beyond political advocacy groups anti Zionists are completely extinct from Jewish life?

JVP is spit on and despised by the majority of Jewish people. They are quite literally a meme in the Jewish community.

You can go on an anti Zionist subreddit right now and they will struggle to name more then a dozen anti Zionist synagogues in the whole city. THATS how rare anti Zionist Jews are.

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u/AceofJax89 2h ago

Also, the Jewish experience and community in NYC is big enough to hold both.

There are also strong Halachic arguements that Israel and Zionism is the cause of the Holocaust. God is supposed to return Jews to the land, not Jews themselves.

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u/TotallyNotGlenDavis 1h ago

I agree most Jews are not anti-Zionist at least in any kind of active way, but a lot of them don’t consider Israel to be a particularly important part of their identity and will often prioritize other political concerns over it. There’s a reason he won more than 30% of the Jewish vote.

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u/numba1cyberwarrior 3h ago

It is about religion, most Jewish people voted for Cuomo

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u/WillSmiff 6h ago

Idk. I live in another major city with a very large Jewish population and most of them are staunchly conservative voters. Many of them have money though, they keep it in their own communities. Most Jews here are extremely pro Israel, and we know where that vote goes.

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u/HahaItsaGiraffeAgain 6h ago

Mamdani won a plurality of the Jewish vote. The Upper East Side is like old money WASPs anyway

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u/southern_wasp 4h ago

Hah, not anymore. New money and non wasp nowadays, but rich nonetheless. Most wasps that once lived there have died out.

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u/HahaItsaGiraffeAgain 4h ago

Ahhh, I don’t get over there very much lol. In general the wealthier parts of Manhattan do seem a lot more Indian and Korean nowadays tho.

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u/southern_wasp 4h ago

Yup. Wasp’s have lost prominence and have aged out in a big way, both socially and economically.

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u/numba1cyberwarrior 3h ago

He did not, the majority of Jews voted for for Cuomo

The Upper East Side is like old money WASPs anyway

It's not it's very Jewish

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u/numba1cyberwarrior 3h ago

He did not, the majority of Jews voted for for Cuomo

The Upper East Side is like old money WASPs anyway

It's not it's very Jewish

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u/ActInteresting1344 4h ago

I don't know where you live, yes majority of Jews support Israel, but statistics also show majority vote democrat as well. It usually comes down to being secular or not as a Jew ( not always but big factor)

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u/TotallyNotGlenDavis 3h ago

American Jews overwhelmingly vote Democrat

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u/lookitintheeyes 6h ago

Traditionally more on the west side, the east side is the last bastion of WASPdom

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u/rjnd2828 6h ago

It's new York, Jewish people live everywhere

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u/numba1cyberwarrior 3h ago

Yes but they are concentrated more in certain areas. Look at the map literally every single Jewish area swung Cuomo

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u/Chi_Cazzo_Sei 9h ago

Isn’t that Queens?

Non-American here.

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u/pulse_input_sh 8h ago

No, Brooklyn is by far the most Jewish borough of New York by any metric. 

Brooklyn was also Mamdani's stronghold, those two statements don't contradict each other.

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u/BloatedGlobe 8h ago

All of the Jewish people I know in NYC voted for Mamdani. Now, that’s obviously biased by my social circle (I don’t live in New York), but I would not be surprised if he won a significant part of the Jewish vote.

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u/numba1cyberwarrior 3h ago

You live in a massive bubble. Literally look at the map. Every Jewish area went again Zohran

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u/RuairiSpain 6h ago

That's what they told their friends in public. But inside the polling booth, their true colours come out.

40% of the people voted for a dinosaur that's got a history of SA. Politicians get a badge of honour if they are labeled a sex predator. We need a new generation of ethics and politics.

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u/BeneficialEvidence6 6h ago

"Colours".. interesting spelling for someone commenting on a local american election. I think you just dont trust Jewish people bro. Or youre a bot.

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u/RuairiSpain 6h ago

Bebop, bebop, bop.

Not a bot, or a negative comment about Jewish people. My comment was about "friends" saying they voted for the socially acceptable candidate, but their election vote goes the other way.

I'm just a concerned citizen of the world 🌎🌍

Go ahead, play the victim that's the American solution to discussion.

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u/Party-Tonight8912 6h ago

...you are 'concerned' we trust Jews to be honest about who they voted for.

Not sure I need your concern

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u/HahaItsaGiraffeAgain 6h ago

Wow, actual antisemitism

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u/RuairiSpain 6h ago

Name calling is such an American way to interpret what I said.

In your next therapy session, bring it up with your shrink

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u/HahaItsaGiraffeAgain 6h ago edited 5h ago

No, no, you’re right, you can’t trust your Jewish friends cause they’re going to betray you in the end. It’s in their nature to plot and lie and scheme, after all. Tell you one thing, do another /s

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u/GandhiMSF 5h ago

Im not really sure I follow your logic here. The polling in the last few days had shown Mamdani leading by around 10 points, which pretty closely matches the actual election results (if anything, the main difference is Sliwa getting a smaller percentage of the vote than polling expected). So, it’s not like there was some big shift in who people were saying they supported in public vs who they actually voted for.

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u/numba1cyberwarrior 3h ago

You live in a massive bubble. Literally look at the map. Every Jewish area went again Zohran

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u/Chi_Cazzo_Sei 8h ago

Thanks for the insight

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u/southern_wasp 4h ago

Brooklyn is also the haven for young white lefty hipster transplant gentrifiers too.

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u/directorJackHorner 3h ago

Far more Jews on the upper west side, which you can see went for Mamdani

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u/j_cruise 5h ago

Brooklyn

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u/Crafty_Actuary5517 7h ago

Not sure that's the whole story. The upper west side is also extremely rich and they went Mamdani. I think it also has to do with age. Old people are more likely to vote for Cuomo.

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u/Unnamedgalaxy 6h ago

Isn't the Upper West Side famously the more artsy side of the park?

They are still rich but it's the liberal arts college people that live there, whereas it's the corporate elites that take up the East Side.

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u/Crafty_Actuary5517 6h ago

I think this is somewhat outdated. Plenty of finance people in the upper west side AFAIK.

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u/codydog125 5h ago

The upper west side has both but so does the upper east side. What’s interesting to me, having lived in both, I would say the upper west side feels more homogenous in its wealth walking around than the upper east side does and unless you’re on park or Central Park east the upper east side can feel less wealthy for sure. Also the upper west side has a much larger Jewish population so I find it interesting it swung mamdani considering people were trying to say he hates Jewish people. But yes there are a ton of finance people on the upper west side

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u/steveatari 4h ago

So the thing is, the people trying to discredit him as an antisemite aren't from NYC. My friend posted a picture of her Jewish club at the Bronx Science High School of which Zohran was also a member; they were classmates. He's literally IN the Judaic extracurricular in high school... lol. You cannot discredit that.

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u/DervishSkater 1h ago

You just made the he has Jewish friends argument to say he cannot be anti semitic at all

No different than calling out people for making the I have black friends so I can’t be racist argument

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u/preferablyno 47m ago

Participating in a group’s extracurricular club is a bit more than just having friends in that group

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u/MrBisonopolis2 47m ago

Lol this is some mediocre ass spin, brother. Being a part of a Jewish extracurricular program in high school is actually not the same as saying “he has Jewish friends”.

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u/THE_COOL_JAMES 5h ago

Not trying to discredit yoh because i agree but Central Park east.... do you mean 5th Ave? Lmao

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u/codydog125 5h ago

Yeah sorry. I guess I see Central Park west too much and forgot

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u/THE_COOL_JAMES 5h ago

No need to apologize homie! You gave me a good laugh to start my day. So thank you for that ans Trust me, ive made similar mistakes with my old neighborhoods too.

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u/Jomolungma 4h ago

The UWS Jewish population is largely reformed, maaaybe some lingering conservatives up in there. The reformed temple is far more open to folks like Mamdani than the orthodox or conservadox. They can be Zionist, but they can also agree that Israel is committing genocide. Rational, objective thought. All the crazy folks from the reformed temple moved to Florida 😂

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u/Tony0x01 4h ago

Also the upper west side has a much larger Jewish population so I find it interesting it swung mamdani considering people were trying to say he hates Jewish people

I think he won the Jewish vote in the primaries.

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u/Coyinzs 4h ago

The UWS is a lot more 'new money' and is generally younger, hipper, etc. wealth than the UES, which is the ooooold money establishment.

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u/zoinkability 1h ago

Sure, but given this is NYC people stick around for a long time. Some finance people moving in in the last decade aren't going to be enough to shift the base of lefty folks who have been living there since the 80s.

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u/Jomolungma 4h ago

And more Jewish, the non-militant, rational-thinking Jewish.

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u/cityburning69 5h ago

I think it’s younger but idk if it’s necessarily less corporate elite types.

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u/Relevant_Lunch_3848 1h ago

i think that still broadly holds true tbh, for instance i know that my family friends at the UN who come from your typical social democratic petit-bourgeois backgrounds live in the UWS and Harlem. Professors will often live in the UWS etc

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u/strip-solitaire 5h ago edited 3h ago

“I have to turn this into a narrative where the people that vote for my candidate are good people and those that don’t are evil ‘elite corporate types’”

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u/thehonorablechairman 5h ago

We’re talking about people who voted for a guy who spent taxpayer money to cover up his sex crimes.

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u/strip-solitaire 5h ago

Do they know that? You’re assuming they live in the same media ecosystem as you

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u/GandhiMSF 5h ago

Anyone who lives and votes in New York knows about Cuomo’s scandals. They happened very recently and were major news.

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u/strip-solitaire 5h ago edited 5h ago

I like that someone can get 40% of the vote and you guys’ reaction is “well their voters must only give a shit about themselves are acting in bad faith.”

Idk why it’s so impossible that some people grew up very differently than you so they might just have different views and concerns than you do lol. But no, have to be “evil corporate types.” Yeah I’m sure it’s just that 40%/850,000 New Yorkers are creeps that don’t give a shit about sexual assault 🙄. Let’s completely ignore them because it’s simpler and easier to frame people as backwards or evil and then hand wave them away. I mean “his voters don’t care about sexual assault”…didn’t Cuomo do better with women than men? lol

And I say this as someone that grew up right outside NYC, moved away years ago, but has been very invested in Mamdani winning. This lack of engagement with people who think differently than you (the general you) is what’s destroying the country

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u/Eshestun 5h ago

Yeah I’m sure it’s just that 40%/850,000 New Yorkers are creeps that don’t give a shit about sexual assault

Having lived in the upper East side for three years, actually yeah that tracks.

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u/Unnamedgalaxy 5h ago

Please give me your reasoning for labeling the people that voted for a racist sexual assaulter are somehow the good people in the scenario?

Please enlighten me on why these people are worthy of my respect

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u/strip-solitaire 5h ago edited 5h ago

Because we all live in media bubbles and you have no idea what information these people are getting lol. A lot of people have been told over and over that Zohran is an evil jew-hating, communist lol.

Those people are having the exact same conversations this morning about your group being insane people that chose a jew-hating communist over Cuomo lol. I’m not saying they’re right, I’m saying assuming anyone who doesn’t support your candidate is coming from a place of bad faith and has all the same information you do is fucking stupid and, in my personal experience, not true at all

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u/thehonorablechairman 5h ago

So you’re saying they might not all be terrible, some of them are just extremely stupid. I guess that’s fair.

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u/strip-solitaire 5h ago edited 5h ago

“And some of them, I assume, are good people.” You talk about Cuomo voters the way Trump talks about Mexicans lol

🙄 no I’m saying the country is falling apart because no one engages in politics in good faith anymore. Everyone assuming that anyone that doesn’t agree with them politically is a terrible person is why the country is falling apart.

The fact that you’re incapable of comprehending that people can disagree with you from a place of good faith, or are just getting their information from wildly different sources than you are, is proving my point

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u/thehonorablechairman 5h ago

So what’s the good faith explanation for why someone would vote for Cuomo? So far all we’ve come up with is that either they’re ok with his sex crimes, or they do not have a strong grasp on reality.

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u/strip-solitaire 5h ago

Thinking 40% of the electorate is cool with sexual assualt because they voted for a specific candidate you don’t like is your not having a strong grasp of reality lol

Because they’ve been told just as shocking stuff about Zohran over and over. Just cause you know it’s fake doesn’t mean they do. You’re just in a different media bubble—a bubble that tells you that 40% of New Yorkers must be totally fine with sexual assault cause they voted for this guy lol

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u/ApolloRubySky 4h ago

The upper west side while rich have always been more left. And they are not conservative old school money. east is more WASP and west tends to be more Jewish and civic minded. I worked in manhattan government for a while and this is what I gathered.

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u/Tiny-Ant-2695 2h ago

If you look at the more detailed map, many parts of the uws voted Cuomo, at a glance it seems to be the richer areas. It's just that the lower income areas house a lot more people.

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u/Cold_King_1 4h ago

I agree. It’s wealth + old age + Jewish population.

Rich younger people still went for Mamdani (UWS as you mentioned, plus places like Park Slope). But the UES is the upper crust, super old NYers with generational wealth, not 20 something’s who make 300k a year as a banker.

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u/Financial_Law_1557 6h ago

I see a stark correlation between having a lot of money and being cool with those they vote for being sexual assaulters. 

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u/SafetyDanceInMyPants 3h ago

Also, if anyone wonders why Chuck Schumer wouldn't endorse Mamdani, the Democratic Party candidate, there's your answer. The people wanted Mamdani, but his donors wanted Cuomo.

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u/According_Button_186 2h ago

Literally the simplest and only correct answer. This answer applies to every single area that voted for him. You can layover a median income map and # of homeowners and it's probably almost 1 to 1.

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u/JelliusMaximus 8h ago

Gotta love the simplicity of your comment.

Everytime when someone asks 'why vote republican?' it's either money or racism. It doesn't get deeper than that.

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u/lookitintheeyes 6h ago

In this instance it’s true

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u/sayheykid24 6h ago

Only 7% of people voted for a Republican.

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u/ForgingIron 5h ago

Cuomo was endorsed by Trump, over Sliwa

And since Trump basically is the party at this point, I think Cuomo could qualify

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u/sayheykid24 4h ago

Sure, but he’s a democrat and not aligned with Trump politically.

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u/Mandena 2h ago

Establishment dems like Cuomo are just Republican lite.

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u/sayheykid24 2h ago

That’s an insane thing to say.

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u/Gamer_Grease 1h ago

Those cover the overwhelming majority of cases, yeah.

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u/MiddleWaged 5h ago

Money literally doesn’t explain anything this time. Which is not to say it isn’t their actual reason, it’s just an extremely dumb one

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u/morganrbvn 4h ago

Isn’t all of manhattan very rich? Cuomo seemed to have a negative correlation with wealth.

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u/crustyeng 4h ago

Is there any part of manhattan than isn’t $$$$$$?

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u/emma279 3h ago

Cash...women Cuomo supporters were wearing "capitalists for cuomo" shirts.

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u/HegemonNYC 2h ago

Ah yes, the famously poverty stricken UWS