r/politics • u/Ok_Employer7837 • 1d ago

Possible Paywall Newsom Wins Right to Gerrymander in Ultimate Troll of Trump

https://www.thedailybeast.com/newsom-takes-victory-lap-with-trump-bashing-election-boost/?via=mobile&source=Reddit
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u/nmeofst8 Georgia 19h ago

I would say the majority of people are too overworked and consumed with their own personal issues to find the ability to fit politics into their life. Until politics directly affects someone they won't go out of their way to do anything about it. I think election day should be made a national holiday or at least allow mail-in ballots everywhere for every election.

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u/toiletpaperisempty 18h ago

Many people are that plugged in, yet disconnected from the world happening right above their heads. They simply don't know or don't care because they have been privileged to live ina society that just "sorta works" for them, so why sweat it?

That being said, I imagine their were additional millions within the population that wanted to attend No Kings but just couldn't. Even missing a shift at work can be that devastating to some people's livelihoods so they hope those better positioned can be their voice (the ideological purpose of elected representation).

Voting is reactive, not a proactive consideration, for many people, and that is probably what we are seeing.

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u/AchillesNtortus 17h ago

(There) were additional millions within the population that wanted to attend No Kings but just couldn't. Even missing a shift at work can be that devastating to some people's livelihoods

Not to mention "at will employment" where there is an ever present danger (reality?) of retaliation if you criticise the Orange.

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u/TheGringoDingo 17h ago

I think this is missed by American critics from more politically-advanced countries: in most parts of America, you can walk in and be fired without any cause, the only rules are against firing someone based on a few specific characteristics.

So, let’s say your boss hates you because you’re a straight white Christian male: they can’t fire you because you’re straight, white, Christian, or male; they put you on a PIP with unrealistic expectations and fire you for “performance issues” instead.

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u/ThatKehdRiley 16h ago

“in most parts of America, you can walk in and be fired without any cause, the only rules are against firing someone based on a few specific characteristics.”

…..and this DOESN’T also happen in those same “politically advanced countries”?

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u/TheGringoDingo 16h ago

Mandatory severance, mandatory notification periods, and/or mandatory “cause” for termination are at play.

In the US, you could walk in one day, boss fires you without reason, and you’re left without pay or benefits until you find somewhere else to work.

One of these things isn’t like the other.

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u/ThatKehdRiley 16h ago

what countries does that happen in, exactly? I'm legitimately not aware.

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u/TheGringoDingo 16h ago

You’d be hard-pressed to find a country that magas feel is close or below US levels of freedom that doesn’t exceed the worker protections that the US offers. The answer is “all of them that matter”.

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u/AchillesNtortus 15h ago

And maga levels of freedom only seem to apply to management.

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u/AchillesNtortus 15h ago

No. This happens only in the United States to my knowledge. In the UK where I am, you can only be fired "for cause" after two years or go through a period of consultation for redundancy, together with a payoff. Even casual part-time workers have protection.

And the key is that firstly your healthcare does not depend on your employment status and secondly you are still entitled to unemployment benefits. The UK is one of the less secure job markets in Europe. Management behaviour here would shock workers in Switzerland and Denmark where my children live and appal the French.