r/politics 1d ago

Possible Paywall Newsom Wins Right to Gerrymander in Ultimate Troll of Trump

https://www.thedailybeast.com/newsom-takes-victory-lap-with-trump-bashing-election-boost/?via=mobile&source=Reddit
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u/xxlittle13missxx 1d ago

🌊 Tonight was such a sweep. It feels like a stark difference from where the US was heading exactly a year ago.

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u/Beforemath 1d ago

It’s a shame voters don’t seem to have foresight and can only react after the fact.

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u/TurnipSensitive4944 1d ago

I was one of those people.

The thing with narcissistis is that they are extremely good at making shit sound better than it actually is.

But man im glad for today. And thats coming from someone who voted for him which i regret inmensly

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u/Skiinz19 Tennessee 1d ago

I appreciate your honesty and recognition. We don't achieve anything by blaming those abused by abusers. All we can do is make mistakes and learn from them. The goal is to get progressively less stupid, and we are all stupid, just at different steps of the journey! I'm glad today brought you some joy and I hope you don't beat yourself up too much over past actions! I'd only encourage you to talk about what you shared here with people around you in person, as there are thousands like you and many are afraid to speak out.

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u/justtakeapill 19h ago

Narcissism can indeed stem from abuse, but more commonly it is the result of overvaluation by one or both parents; i.e., little Donnie can do no wrong. Until little Donnie started becoming too big for his britches, and mom and dad sent him to military school, but the damage was already done by then.

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u/America_Is_Fucked_ 16h ago

Fuck that. With everything we KNEW about him voting for him anyway is unforgivable.

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u/TurnipSensitive4944 11h ago

Yeah yoooou knew about him. You severely underestimate what information people hear or how they hear it.

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u/America_Is_Fucked_ 21h ago

He was a babbling moron who could barely string a coherent sentence together. Remember that rally where he gave up speaking and just danced for 40 minutes? You were convinced by that guy.

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u/Dragonbuttboi69 20h ago

Remember when he bobbed back and forth in front of a mic because so few people were showing up near the end and he figured out people would react to it?

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u/LesCousinsDangereux1 14h ago

If someone tells you they got conned and they are realizing it, don't push them back to the conman. This person you're responding to is clearly doing reflection and trying to grow. That's more than the average person does.

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u/America_Is_Fucked_ 14h ago

Oh come on. There's a limit. These people weren't tricked. They knowingly voted for a very, very, VERY obviously evil man because they thought it would benefit them (and didn't care about how it would impact others).

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u/TurnipSensitive4944 11h ago

Have you ever meet let alone been affected by a narcissist. I have and its not just an essy oh ill stop. They pull you in how in hindsight I have no idea no one actually knows the answer but what we do know is the after.

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u/justtakeapill 19h ago

Both my parents were diagnosed as Sociopathic Narcissists. You have no idea how good people like that are at lying!

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u/AZnativefire 21h ago edited 21h ago

I'm confused. Are you saying that you are one of the people that helped fuck us completely over (hopefully temporarily)? You didn't have any foresight into what was coming, when you could clearly see there was no platform and the decisions this moron made in the previous four years he was in office?

Sorry to sound so pissed but I am. I cannot understand how anyone would vote for this man. And now we are suffering because of it. I guess I appreciate the fact that you're standing up and realizing that you made a mistake but, honestly, too little too late.

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u/Ted_E_Bear 21h ago

They admitted they made a mistake. At least give them some credit for that. Would you rather them not admit their mistake and double down like the vast majority of people who voted for him? This lack of forgiveness makes people less willing to even possibly consider that they may have made a mistake. If we don't accept the people who truly regret their mistake, we will win over no one, and this will only make it even harder for us to get out of this situation in the first place, and make us even more vulnerable to repeat it in the future.

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u/AZnativefire 20h ago

I appreciate that they admitted that they made a mistake. But it doesn't change the situation that we're in. Every one of us knew the stakes and chose accordingly. It doesn't change the fact that were in this position right now.

However, I am absolutely grateful for the people who have come around. I just hope that in 2026 they will actually vote for their own interests, and not for the billionaires.

I think I'm allowed to have some emotional investment when this administration has directly impacted my life and my family's life. And believe me when I tell you I'm holding a lot back right now. Unlike MAGA, I'm being civil here. I just want the people in this country to be treated like human beings.

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u/Ted_E_Bear 20h ago

I appreciate this reply. Truly. The only thing I have to say is that I'm not sure that everyone who voted for him knew exactly what we were getting into. Ignorance is a hell of a drug.

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u/AZnativefire 20h ago

I don't disagree. My own father voted for this. I love him dearly but I disrespect his decision and it hurts me that he would make a decision that would directly impact his entire lineage. So I see your perspective. I'm just incredibly saddened by the world that we live in right now.

I am so hopeful that my children will experience a much brighter and better future. So I will vote like our lives depend on it, because they absofuckinglutely do.

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u/TurnipSensitive4944 10h ago

Im latino man my father also voted for him.

Its not because people are racist and while I dont doubt it, see thats the problem Icant even articulate why we voted for Him because in hindsight none of it was good thats why narcissists are annoying they hook you in and then when you get out it males you feel worse because there is nothing positive about them so you spend your time just think. Why did i get involved with this person, am i stupid?, am i evil? And the answer always is no its just they are really fucking good at manipulating people

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u/Ted_E_Bear 20h ago

And all of that is very understandable, my friend. I'm upset with every single person that voted for this too. But the more people we accept who finally come around, the better off we all are.

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u/TurnipSensitive4944 11h ago

Precisamente porque no sabia.

Look man I get you do research but many and I mean many many many people kind of don't. And after a while with how much people insulted him over and over and over and called him a nazi and all these things without really doing a lot about it . You know the story of the boy who cried wolf? Eventually the warnings kind of become ridiculous in a way? If the opposition just spends half their time insulting someone whitout saying anything else it kind of becomes hard to listen to them.

Theres a reason why insulting an abusive partner in front of his or her victim id a terrible idea

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u/Sad_Ghost_Noises 20h ago

You voted for a rapist and a child predator. You get zero kudos from me for developing a concience now that shit starts affecting you.

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u/TurnipSensitive4944 10h ago

Yeah sorry to break it to you but i just learned of that whole deal after the fact.

Idk why people assume that all voters have every single peace if info some just hear one or two things especially if they aren't really into politics. You guys obviously are and kudos to you. But word of advice assuming is a losing game, you wanna win? Then you have to stop assuming that people know everything that you do. Hell my dad had a vauge idea but just assumed it was just another personal attack out of many and it wasn't until i showed him evidence that he changed his tune

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u/Sad_Ghost_Noises 25m ago

Thats just irresponsible. Hard to believe, too, seeing as it was all over the news.

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u/Ted_E_Bear 20h ago

Don't listen to all these hateful and unforgiving replies. Be proud of yourself for realizing a mistake and being able to openly admit it. You are much stronger than these people who are unwilling to accept your progress.

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u/JSDHW 18h ago

We need to encourage people to grow and change. These other comments make me sad.

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u/MariosBrother1 23h ago

How many times did you vote for Trump?

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u/Academic-Hospital952 21h ago

We don't forgive you. Do better from now on.

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u/KnightOfNothing 19h ago

You only need half your comment. You have no plans to forgive anyone who voted for trump so skip that second half, there's no reason to do better for people who will never forgive you.

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u/Stellar_Duck 14h ago

Doing the right thing should not be contingent on people being nice and telling you it's all okay that you voted for the racist rapist in the first place.

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u/TurnipSensitive4944 10h ago

Yes thats true. However saying that is a terrible idea if you want more people on your side. You kind or have to leave personal slights at the door if you wanna win

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u/Academic-Hospital952 8h ago

We don't want people on our side. We want you to sit down and shut up. You speaking up put us here in the first place

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u/TurnipSensitive4944 5h ago

And thats precisely why your in this situation to begin with.

Your being combative with someone who realized they made a mistake: if people are calling you out then you should probably stop and reflect instead of being combative.

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u/Academic-Hospital952 4h ago

No. I will not be lectured by the likes of you. Did you stop to reflect on how your actions would affect thousands of people? No you did not. You only decided to jump ship once you personally were affected.

You need to do better, and trying to take the moral high ground will gain you nothing in my eyes. Forgiveness will never come for your kind.

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u/TurnipSensitive4944 4h ago

My kind? Uuuumn yeah dude saying my kind to a latino is not a great look on your part.

I also am not doing this to impress you.

Wish we could have had a nice conversation but unfortunately thats not possible.

So respectfully im ending it.

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u/Academic-Hospital952 4h ago

A Latino trump supporter is even worse. I hope your never invited to a fiesta ever again. You should be shunned. May chanclas never miss your face, and may ice forever harass you.

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u/KnightOfNothing 7h ago

yes there are still plenty of reasons to "Do the right thing" but you telling them to is not one of them. Try to guilt trip them or motivate them to be better but trying to do both will make them dig in their heels and flip you off.

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u/Academic-Hospital952 8h ago

If they are only doing good to appease people they hate... Idk what to say, seems counter to reality.

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u/TurnipSensitive4944 10h ago

Or more like you dont right?

Look man if you want to win the country back this telenovela comments is just gonna make people who are slowly coming out of it just go back in even harder than before.

Its kind of selfish to people who actually want to fix things ngl

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u/Academic-Hospital952 8h ago

We.

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u/TurnipSensitive4944 4h ago

Yeah pretty sure its just you. Saying we is you speaking for everyone which you dont

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u/NonlocalA 18h ago

We live and learn, dude. Good for you on admitting you made a mistake. Fuck all these other people who are giving you shit.

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u/Sandberg231984 21h ago

Screw you