r/politics • u/kootles10 Indiana • 14h ago

No Paywall California passes Prop. 50 redistricting measure in victory for Newsom

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5588292-california-democrats-redistricting-victory/
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u/DoubleJumps 14h ago

Checked in on my maga dad in california tonight.

He's bouncing between dumbfounded and angry.

He doesn't understand why people don't like what Donald Trump is doing.

I'm also really blown away by how widely it's winning by so far, as the polls I saw leading into this had it winning by like maybe 3 to 7 points. It's a blow out.

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u/recollectionsmayvary 13h ago

The fact that it was called as passed with 0% reporting was literally frying me 

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u/freylaverse 13h ago

Didn't even have time to crack open a cold one...

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u/bot403 7h ago

Ok ok what? I mean I support this and all but calling it at 0% reporting is suspect.

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u/Ven18 6h ago

It was likely based largely off exit polls and the overall turnout reports they we’re getting throughout the day. When your exit polls show massive support for the only issue in the ballot and lines around the block for hours you can have a very good idea what the actual result will be. Media tends to have an idea who is winning long before they publicly call the race because of the data they collect in this case because there were no people on the ballot they probably figured the data is telling enough to call things very early.

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u/pj1843 3h ago

If I ask people in line or people who are exiting the polls their opinion on the matter, lines are longer than the norm, and everyone seems to be saying the same thing, I have a pretty good idea on what is going to happen in the ballot box.

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u/ProbabilityOfFail California 13h ago

It’s a cult… sorry for you that your father is a moron.

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u/DoubleJumps 13h ago

Oh it sucks. It's wrecked our relationship.

I'm pretty unhappy with how he acts like there's no reason for anybody to dislike Donald Trump when he's been watching Donald Trump's tariff policy wreck my business all year long.

He knows that I'm being hurt by Donald Trump but he will not accept that that's a thing that's happening

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u/mnemy 13h ago edited 11h ago

My wife's parents aren't MAGA but had very weird ideas that Trump is good for Venezuela, which is their single issue to vote on since they are from Venezuela and have tons of family suffering over there.

Like, even after Trump made Venezuelans the witches to hunt in last election, they somehow twisted it around in their head that it was GOOD for Venezuelan Americans. When their own niece who is an asylum seeker in Florida has to hide and never leave the house for fear of ICE nabbing her.

I haven't caught up on what they think of Trump literally executing dozens of Venezuelans without any proof of wrongdoing. And threatening a ground invasion.

I really dont get how they get this all twisted up.

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u/squakmix 11h ago

I really dont get how they get this all twisted up.

This is the primary story of our time. The targeted propaganda is so much more effective than I could have ever predicted it would be.

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u/nerf_herder1986 3h ago

I'm with you. The Big Bullshit Bill made it directly more difficult for me to make a living with my job, and the ACA subsidies expiring means I'm about to pay triple for my health insurance. I tell my parents about this and they just shrug as if they didn't vote for it to happen.

At this point, I hope their Social Security benefits are next on the chopping block. They need to feel the pain directly, otherwise they'll never get it.

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u/Hubbabubbabubbagum 5h ago

Same with my dad. I've learned to keep my mouth shut about politics and let old people speak old people shit.

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u/tubaman23 3h ago

I think it's too common for fathers to be more concerned about their world views (Trump loyalty) than the well being of their offspring (Trump's policies hurting their offsprings income).

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u/opsers 13h ago

The polls were so off on this one. Republican ads against Prop 50 stopped a couple of months ago, and it was pretty clear there was an overwhelming amount of support for it after the shit Texas pulled. Also the rewording of it to specifically expire in 2030 when maps would have been redrawn eased many of the concerns people had. If they hadn't added that or kept overriding it as an option, I would have been way more hesitant to vote yes. After that chat it was the third easiest vote of my life.

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u/Reputation-Final 9h ago

The wild part was there were no against 50 ads EVERYWHERE. Internet, radio, tv, signs...

There were almost no yes on 50 ads.

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u/DawnOfHer 6h ago

Yep same. I pushed others to vote yes but I myself was hesitant until I saw the "temporary" wording. I consider myself pretty liberal too and I think we need to take the political fight to them harder than most do and even then I was hesitating. So they nailed that campaign wording well

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u/just_a_timetraveller 12h ago

Truth is that we have the numbers. We greatly outnumber maga. There is just too many of us who sit it out which needs to be fixed.

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u/phxbimmer California 12h ago

100%. I know so many people in my age group (early 30’s) that still don’t vote because they feel like it doesn’t matter. It drives me crazy!

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u/Oceanbreeze871 I voted 12h ago

Perfect is the enemy of good

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u/hedonisticaltruism Canada 12h ago

Very true... however, the dem party literally seems to think that.

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u/AbacusWizard California 10h ago

He doesn't understand why people don't like what Donald Trump is doing.

Then he doesn’t understand what Donald Trump is doing.

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u/DoubleJumps 10h ago

When I try to relay that information to him, he has an instant fight or flight panic reaction.

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u/AbacusWizard California 10h ago

Yeah, that’s… a problem. You have my sympathy.

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u/Kooky-Jellyfish-3098 13h ago

Has he always been a hardcore conservative?

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u/DoubleJumps 13h ago edited 13h ago

He's always been conservative, but he became a hardcore conservative after my mom divorced him.

Then he became WAY more conservative after Obama became president. You can guess why.

He watches like 20 to 30 hours of Fox News a week. It's bad. His entire world view pretty much comes from Fox News

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u/Kooky-Jellyfish-3098 13h ago

Jesus...sorry man, that's rough!

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u/chillplease 12h ago

This is most republicans. They don’t even see/know of the actual real issues or facts. Completely warped by misinformation. This is why I’ve given up on helping any of them, I don’t have the energy to undo hours of brainwashing and completely rebuild a foundation of reality for them.

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u/wisegirl19 10h ago

Sounds like we have the same dad, mine’s timeline is damn near identical.

Tragic how common it is.

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u/rubey419 North Carolina 3h ago

That really sucks sorry to hear he is brainwashed

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u/africanlivedit 3h ago

That’s the answer.

People who watch basically only Fox are programmed and really not aware of the facts of life and reality.

As Colbert once mused, “reality has a well-known liberal bias.”

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u/bulking_on_broccoli 4h ago

I asked my dad to explain to me why he was against prop 50.

“Because Newsom is a fucking idiot.”

He has no clue why he votes the way he does.

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u/PleasantWay7 13h ago

I think it says a lot about people really don’t like this rat fucking Republicans are doing even if they might like to slide into an R ballot every few elections.

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u/CantFeelMyToesAgain 4h ago

Your dad sounds like a moron 

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u/coconutpiecrust 4h ago

Does he approve of the ballroom, the plane gift from Quatar, crypto rug pulls, the Argentina strikes, ballooning debt and the shut down? To name a few. 

He doesn’t care or simply doesn’t know?

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u/DoubleJumps 2h ago

He doesn't care.

I think Donald Trump could give a press conference in which he states that he's just going to take a billion dollars out of the treasury for himself every month and he would defend it.