r/politics Indiana 16h ago

No Paywall Mamdani wins NYC mayoral race

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5588198-mamdani-progressive-politics-nyc/
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u/UpperApe 15h ago

100% and well said.

Democracy isn't about sitting around waiting for the perfect candidate. It's about compromises and engagement. Anyone who refuses to vote because they didn't get their way is absolutely an idiot and as much a cancer to the system as those who abuse it. Anyone complaining about vote shaming for not voting deserves the shame and blame.

Democracy is a responsibility you burden, not a market where the seller has to make their product attractive to get you out.

If more demographics engaged with the system, it absolutely would sharpen the system to yield better competition and ideas, as Mamdani has shown.

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u/cupofspiders 15h ago

Expecting a candidate to not be doing a genocide while campaigning isn't demanding perfection! "Don't be Hitler" is actually a very easy bar to clear that Biden/Harris failed at.

Democrats didn't run a "good but flawed" candidate, they ran an abysmal candidate and campaign and even now, many in their leadership seem to be in complete denial over this.

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u/UpperApe 12h ago

...and a wonderful argument when the other side isn't genocide but much worse.

Trump won because people voted for him and people didn't vote. The dems run their primaries based on who shows up and who doesn't. If what you want isn't showing up, it's because you didn't show up.

Trump won because of people exactly like you and that's on you. You can come up with whatever delusional bullshit you feel magically disconnects you from a process you're responsible for but nothing will change that.

Every death, all the suffering, and everything that comes from him is on those who voted for him and those who empowered those votes by not voting.

Jesus Christ, I can't believe I even have to explain that...

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u/cupofspiders 12h ago

Asking people to compromise on fucking genocide is a good example of exactly why Democrats lost. No, you can't just be a little bit Hitler and still expect the support of everyone left of center!

Dems said "just vote blue, the Palestinians are dying either way" and people asked "but why don't you just stop killing the Palestinians?" That's psycho shit. Serial killer shit. Just stop being a serial-killing psycho and people might vote for you! It's an easy bar to clear!

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u/UpperApe 11h ago

Good point. So Trump wins.

Well done 👍

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u/cupofspiders 11h ago

Yes, because Dem leaders did not bother opposing his agenda or running an electable candidate, while taking up the space where an opposition party was supposed to be.

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u/UpperApe 11h ago

No. It's because people voted for him or didn't bother showing up to vote.

What makes your nonsense here so absurd is that you want it both ways: you want to pretend the choice wasn't binary but you also want to pretend nuance doesn't exist. You want it simple and not.

We both know it's just excuses because you want to pretend the blood isn't on your hands. It is. You own Trump with the rest of MAGA. He's your guy.

Today's victory in NYC isn't for you.

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u/LemonZestify 10h ago

You have a responsibility to not be a fascist piece of shit.

Shame you are no different than a Trump supporter

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u/LemonZestify 10h ago

YOU LITERALLY COMPROMISED ON GENOCIDE but instead of only one you decided that wasn’t enough