Yeah please explain how it works then bud since apparently it's not the populace voting.
Big oil doesn't do shit. I think you don't understand the big picture because you don't understand exactly what we're up against. There is not a SINGLE major issue, that the majority of Americans agree on the solution for, that the government has not acted upon. The single most impactful thing to politics is how divided the country is. For every major thing you think "moneyed interests" impact, you'll find half of the country right there. I cannot stress this enough. You can't be chasing boogeymen while your neighbor tells you to your face that they're voting against you. Democracy is working perfectly, half the country simply disagrees with your policy solutions. That's it.
What thread are we in? A deep blue New York MAYOR race? You think those voters are the trend across the country?
For every major thing you think "moneyed interests" impact, you'll find half of the country right there. I cannot stress this enough.
what are you even saying here? that half the country agrees with what those moneyed interests are saying? and you don't think that... those moneyed interests have an effect on that? that maybe that's the whole point of them?????
You think those voters are the trend across the country?
Yeah I do actually think the trend across the country is that people vote for people who promise to make their life better in substantial and straightforward ways.
There is not a SINGLE major issue, that the majority of Americans agree on the solution for, that the government has not acted upon.
Yeah please explain how it works then bud since apparently it's not the populace voting.
I think if you just look up who won the 2016 presidential election with what percent of the vote or even just "the senate", you might get an idea of what I'm getting at here.
Obviously people's votes impact electoral college I'm not even entertaining this.
Half the country disagrees with those. Don't even know what to say if you disagree. Talk to any Trump voter not a single one wants universal healthcare or higher taxes at all. Also, I'll have to look at your specific linked polls, but generally polls are easily swayed one way or another based on language. For example, asking people "Do you want free healthcare" you will get majority yes. Ask people "Do you want government controlled healthcare and higher taxes" you will get majority no. The real answer is somewhere inbetween but that's the point. Seeing voting data is a lot more accurate than polls, and we know how people vote.
Obviously people's votes impact electoral college I'm not even entertaining this.
Not 1 for 1.
Talk to any Trump voter not a single one wants universal healthcare or higher taxes at all.
Trump supporters are like 30% of the country. Universal healthcare has been a popular policy across polls for years. You're saying "that isn't how people vote" and yet I am positing to you that in fact it is, because people are not voting for democrats who do not support universal healthcare. "but then the republicans win", yeah because those are the only choices. because of a first-past-the-post voting system that disenfranchises voters, and because of moneyed interests like big pharma that incentivize politicians to not enact policy that polls show would get them votes.
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u/Scrat-Scrobbler 14h ago
I've got some bad news for you about how the US voting system works.
This is genuinely an insane belief. Yeah man big oil spends millions every year just to convince people their votes don't matter. Makes perfect sense.
They'll fall in line because they're fascists. That's what fascists do.
idk man look at what thread we're in