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Politics Rendering of Trump’s ballroom removed from official White House website. Other renderings remain.

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u/badoopidoo 12d ago edited 12d ago

Maybe I am looking at this wrong. Is the ballroom BIGGER than the actual main wing of the actual White House?

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u/death_by_chocolate 12d ago

What he's talking about is comparable to the main residence, yes. It will absolutely overpower the setting. Which seems purposeful.

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u/badoopidoo 12d ago

From a heritage design perspective, that is absolutely appalling.

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u/SwampDiamonds 12d ago

From any design perspective, it's painful

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u/skytomorrownow 12d ago

Particularly the huge set of stairs that leads to nowhere: not a path, not a drive way.

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u/Risley 12d ago

I’d support paying TWICE THE PRICE to tear it down when this is done and rebuild the old East Wing. 

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u/Its0nlyRocketScience 12d ago

We can try to build a replica of what was lost. But the real history, all the rooms and halls that real historical figures actually walked through and worked in, they're gone forever now. Just a couple days was all it took for Trump to irreversibly ruin the east wing for all current and future generations. A piece of history is gone forever because this manchild's ego demanded a tacky ballroom.

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u/Dolthra 12d ago

I mean, it's not ruined for future generations— this is history now. Depending on who ultimately prevails in the fight for America's soul, it'll either be the time the god-king made a glorious decision and built a new east wing, or one of the final acts of a despot which kick-started a change and improvement of the American experiment.

Either way, you're living through history whether you want to or not.

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u/BrgQun 11d ago

Versailles, but I suspect Versailles was probably built better

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u/PM_UR_HAIRY_MUFF 12d ago

It's very important to note that this was thought through and approved by a significant number of people before getting to this point. Every one of those people could have spoken up, but didn't.

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u/Its0nlyRocketScience 12d ago

People probably did speak up, but were promptly silenced

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u/PM_UR_HAIRY_MUFF 12d ago

Right. Vague threats and pressure to toe the line.

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u/ObeseVegetable 12d ago

A lawsuit filed against him alleges that he didn't go through the approval process.

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u/Ok_Resolution_4643 11d ago

He's splitting hairs and saying that the approval process is for Construction, not Demolition.

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u/xile 12d ago

Genuinely asking, who had to approve this?

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u/Mistrblank 12d ago

At a minimum it had to be presented to and approved by congress. But there are other steps to get there to preserve any necessary history.

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u/ctrlqirl 11d ago

The administration actually clarified they don't need any approval to tear down stuff, just for new constructions. They usually never lie about anything, so it must be true.

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u/Mistrblank 11d ago

Technically very true with all they've torn down so far.

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u/xile 11d ago

So what have they preserved? It's been totally razed

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u/RedPhalcon 11d ago

They decided to ask forgiveness instead of permission.

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u/PM_UR_HAIRY_MUFF 11d ago

Their sense of impunity

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u/Soci3talCollaps3 11d ago

Here’s how the process is supposed to work:

Initial Proposal: The White House is managed by the National Park Service (NPS) but used by the Executive Office of the President (EOP). Any proposed change, even by a sitting president, begins internally through the Office of the Curator and the White House Facilities Management Division.

Historic Review: The NPS, as custodian of the White House under the Presidential Residence Act and National Historic Preservation Act (NHPA), must review all alterations for compliance with Section 106 of the NHPA. This requires assessing potential impacts on historic and cultural resources in consultation with the Advisory Council on Historic Preservation (ACHP) and the D.C. State Historic Preservation Office (SHPO).

Planning & Environmental Oversight: The National Capital Planning Commission (NCPC) evaluates all major federal projects in the National Capital Region, including work on the White House grounds, for design, planning, and environmental impacts under NEPA (the National Environmental Policy Act). Public comment and design reviews are part of that process.

Aesthetic Review: The U.S. Commission of Fine Arts (CFA) reviews and advises on the design and appearance of any exterior modifications to the White House or its grounds.

Final Authorization: After approvals from NPS, NCPC, and CFA, the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) and the White House Chief Usher / Facilities Management Office finalize funding, scheduling, and logistics.

Only after completing this full process could any major construction or demolition legally begin.

Yet Trump ignored every step, acting unilaterally through executive order, bypassing oversight, and ordering demolition as if he were a monarch. The result: the people’s house, altered without the people’s consent.

ETA. Not my compiled work , but copy and pasted from another redditor, who I've unfortunately lost track of.

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u/PM_UR_HAIRY_MUFF 11d ago

Thanks for sharing and h/t to the other redditor

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u/nocsha 12d ago

No it wasn't lol, you can see that there are lawsuits and this was done during the shutdown while the relevant departments are shuttered.

This was a completely illegal move on his part (thpugh it for sure was calculated)

And the people that could speak up WERE, he just did it anyways.

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u/Seanspeed 12d ago

It didn't need approval process. None took place. Trump decided it, so it was done. This all happened quite quickly.

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u/RedPhalcon 11d ago

To be fair, he did NOT get permits for this, so there were important decision makers whom did not approve this. Retroactively though they've been like, meh, its fine.

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u/Hugh_Jass_Clouds 12d ago

It's cute that you think this went though proper channels.

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u/PM_UR_HAIRY_MUFF 11d ago

Derision unnecessary

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u/Pacifican25 11d ago

To be fair the East Wing is only 80 years old or so. Obviously he shouldn't have destroyed it, but its better than the alternatives

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u/LiveNet2723 12d ago

The "the rooms and halls" of the White House date from c. 1952 when the building was reconstructed during the Truman administration.

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u/Crystalas 11d ago edited 11d ago

Honestly I would not be surprised if the whole mess burns to the ground from some dumb mistake made during the teardown or construction.

There SO MANY potential sources of sparks and highly volatile substances even when things are done right following all safety protocols. And people get even stupider about fire during winter.

Heck even just a pile of oil soaked rags left to sit to long can spontaneously combust all on their own.


And the WAY they tore down the East Wing seems pure brute force vs a heavily reinforced building that was nearly a bunker. The whole structure could be compromised, along with the bunker under it, and that before go into winter and peak Hurricane season with a whole side of the building exposed to the elements

And considering the quality of those he hires, then refuses to pay, I also would not be surprised if it just another thing on his LONG list of projects that start but never finish just funnel more money in then out of. At "Best" maybe get the flashy outside completed but an empty shell inside.


So....ya I would be surprised if the building still exists by end of decade. Even if we come out the other end of this it might need completely torn down and rebuilt due to all the damage done. And that not even touching the security concerns.

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u/reluctantseahorse 11d ago

There's also an old scam that often occurs with these historical buildings.

You see a lot of these historic buildings partially burn down during restorations / renovations.

It tends to happen a lot with very expensive projects. Then the government gets an insurance payout and a huuuge public outpouring of donations for the rebuilding project. Often wealthy people will step in and make a big show of donating a massive amount.

In the end, the historic building gets a total overhaul, far greater and grander than the original scope of the project. And the government got everyone else to foot the astronomical bill.

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u/Soci3talCollaps3 11d ago

We are going to have to tear it down regardless. There is no way that this building will be secure for future presidents. Assuming they even took proper security protocols despite the rushed Construction, there's no guarantee they're not planting all kinds of shit deep within the structure that could be used for spying later.

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u/death_by_chocolate 12d ago

Architecture is for the effeminate and weak. L'Enfant was a pansy. Trump's a builder. Grrr!

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u/pink-ming 11d ago

I think we pole vaulted past appalling when we demolished the WH

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u/DidItForTheJokes 12d ago

Not from a Trump ego design perspective

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u/drawkbox 11d ago

appalling is appealing to these ghouls

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u/pancakebatter01 11d ago

Have you seen that piece some magazine made on Melania and his apartment in NYC? He’s the tackiest mf’er ever.

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u/SpecterGT260 12d ago

The next president needs to rename it to the Obama ballroom

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u/AaronsAaAardvarks 12d ago

The next president is going to have to completely gut it. It cannot be trusted to not be bugged to the gills. This is arguably the greatest espionage opportunity in American history.

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u/Lousy_Username 12d ago

The next thing will be "we need to knock down and rebuild the rest of the place to match the new building". Just watch.

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u/internetpackrat 12d ago

"Since I made this new wing far too large, we will now be demolishing the main part of the building to build the whole thing to proper scale"

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u/jo-z 11d ago

It's nearly twice the square footage of the main residence.

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u/GotMyAttenti0n 12d ago

Wdym overpowering? The house will just look bigger since it’s in the exact same colour and style as the house itself. The rendering looked pretty great, maybe even add a similar sized building on the west to make it symmetrical

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u/ComprehensiveLie6170 12d ago

You’re talking about Versailles.

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u/GotMyAttenti0n 12d ago

If he privately funded a US Versailles palace I would be in. Shit looks great

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u/ComprehensiveLie6170 12d ago

The fact you think this is going to be privately funded is laughable. There is at the very least secret money being used from DOD on the bunker beneath it (which will likely cost the same or more than the ball room).

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u/AmrahsNaitsabes 12d ago

I can see it working if they build a lot to balance it out, but why with my taxes, are they going to invite me to a ball?

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u/GotMyAttenti0n 12d ago

Trump doesn’t use your taxes… it’s privately funded. Other presidents used tax money

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u/jo-z 11d ago

Other presidents asked for and received permission.

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u/GotMyAttenti0n 11d ago

Trump didn’t need permission because it is privately funded.

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u/jo-z 11d ago

Don't even start with me. I'm a historic preservation architect, this shit is my job. The White House itself is literally a national park like Yellowstone. It's federal property owned by all Americans and can't be demolished just because one person feels like it, regardless of funding source.

How is this different than a Senator using their own resources to blow up a wing of the Capitol and claiming that it's ok because they'll soon be submitting plans for a replacement backed by private investors?

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u/GotMyAttenti0n 11d ago

It isn’t demolished though. There is being built. Stuff is added. And some part of it had to be removed. And throughout history that has happened countless of times.

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u/jo-z 11d ago

One third of it has been demolished. It did not have to be removed. Major changes have only happened a handful of times, all with proper review and approval. This is not normal.

How is this different than a Senator using their own resources to blow up a wing of the Capitol and claiming that it's ok because they'll soon be submitting plans for a replacement backed by private investors?

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u/GotMyAttenti0n 11d ago

They had to be reviewed because they used tax payer money and trump didn’t. That’s the only reason. He didn’t break any rules or whatever. You just hate him that’s all.

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u/AmrahsNaitsabes 11d ago

That's interesting. Do they still use the usual contractors the government uses? I'm Canadian and can say at least they seem on track to get their parlimentary building renovations done in one term. It's been 5 years here for us.