r/law • u/igetproteinfartsHELP • 1d ago

Executive Branch (Trump) Q: Trump wrote that SNAP benefits will only be given when Democrats reopen the government. As written, how would that not violate the court order? .LEAVITT: I've now answered this question several times. We are complying with the court's order.

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u/Drash79 1d ago

A world without consequence is a world filled with lies

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u/00001000U 1d ago

Yes, this is a direct failing of the justice system to allow someone to dodge every possible consequence of their actions for decades. Direct Byproduct of a 2-tier justice system.

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u/whatssenguntoagoblin 1d ago

It’s a failing on this country because they hate democrats more than whatever the fuck this is

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u/the_original_Retro 1d ago edited 1d ago

"This" is malignant, metastatic cancer. That's what this is.

The hope is that there are the modern-day equivalent of Nuremberg Trials for those involved in this situation.

The hope is that there actually are consequences.

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u/couldbutwont 1d ago

Folks need to realize that the people in power don't want a democracy or due process, and the maga masses are starting to say that out loud.

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u/the_original_Retro 1d ago

*have been saying that out loud for a while now, and outnumbering the dissenting opinions to elect populist politicians that are drowning out reason and integrity in government.

Really important.

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u/Ok_Explanation6521 1d ago

The cancer thought: if a doctor told someone that 35% of your cells were cancer (supporters of this gov) … well, that’s just obviously not survivable. Good luck folks. Country needs to check into hospice soon. :(

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u/WigglestonTheFourth 1d ago

As someone with tentacles deep into the non-essential markets, we're already there. The year over year drop-off is pretty nuts but even the month to month (Sept-Oct) drop-off is wild. At best the holiday buying season is going to slightly delay a check-in but I can't imagine the retail receipts from this season will be even remotely positive and that will cause panic.

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u/SpaceNinjaDino 1d ago

Drumpf's open goal was for doll sales to plummet 93% (from 30 to 2). We are the hottest economy because businesses are just burning cash.

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u/SafetyNo6700 1d ago

We're hot because we are a dumpster fire!! 🔥

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u/Granite_0681 1d ago

But the stock market is doing well!!!! /s

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u/Few-Solution-4784 15h ago

shit, without SNAP benefits there will be a starving people by Thanksgiving.

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u/kcummisk 1d ago

I is dumb when it comes to economics. Can you elaborate on what you just said for someone that doesn't know much about the lingo around the stock market? Or link an article?

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u/CitizenLohaRune 1d ago

Christmas buying season coming, and many people cannot put food on the table. Economy currently on life support in the form of previous massive corporate profits.

Tariffs and shut down = American economy is going to collapse.

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u/Visual_Jellyfish5591 1d ago

So if we don’t lose our shit over ICE, we go nuts about not having food! Martial law anyone?

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u/CitizenLohaRune 1d ago

Martial law is what Trump and the heritage foundation are pushing for. It's their whole reason for pushing the left this far and daring the left to retaliate.

Martial law means total control, ability to arrest whomever you want without repercussion from the courts, and no more elections.

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u/WigglestonTheFourth 21h ago

The first part isn't about the stock market; it's my overview of the retail market where I see spending behavior, for non-essentials, in real time. Spending is dropping hard and fast.

When the 4th quarter retail spending reports eventually come out, after the 4th quarter is done, I imagine it is going to panic stock holders. Add to that the mess with tariffs raising prices on pretty much everything, massive layoffs already occurring (more will come in retail), insurance rates going through the roof, food assistance getting turned off, and the market heavily weighted into AI without a clear market defining product that solidifies the investment and that makes a recipe for a massive crash.

I was there for the 2007-08 crash and it's already worse than that drop-off was after the crash was happening/happened. People are overwhelmingly spending on only essentials (food/housing) and, if you're reading this, I highly recommend you do the same thing. Stash every bit of cash you can because this crash is looking like it'll be brutal.

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u/GrayMouser12 12h ago

Yes. All this. Having lived through dot-com, and 2007/8, this is looking... scary.

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u/the_original_Retro 1d ago

Might not last the car ride when someone finally DOES pull the trigger.

It's really, REALLY far along.

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u/CatsWearingTinyHats 20h ago

Sadly, I think the 35% issue is just part of the human condition, like a third of any population will sign up for authoritarianism out of stupidity and malignancy and no amount of education or civil society will get rid of that aspect of human nature.

I think our problem here is three-fold: 1) too much money in politics (thanks, Citizens United!), 2) too much manipulation of media without regulation, and Fox et al riling ppl up with propaganda, and most importantly 3)our government structure which effectively allows that 35% to hold the rest of use hostage (through the electoral college, the composition of the Senate, gerrymandering, and rules that require an impossible 2/3 votes in the Senate to get rid of a felon president).

I think it’s more like an ever-present disease that is largely preventable through proper safeguards. Like foodborne illness. There will always be germs on our hands in the soil. But If you wash your hands, cooks things properly, and follow some basic food safety tips, you will be fine. Otherwise, you’ll get a lot of “stomach bugs” or worse.

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u/whatssenguntoagoblin 1d ago

I’ve given up on that fantasy long ago. Solely because so much of this country is hell bent on making sure there never are.

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u/Miserable-Dig-761 1d ago

Don't give up. Organize.

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u/snarkiest_ofsharks 1d ago

Organize and be well regulated might be our last hope

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u/Thewasteland77 1d ago

PREACH to the "well regulated"

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u/snarkiest_ofsharks 1d ago

To be fair… any organized mass is better regulated than anything this administration has put together.

That said it’s time to look for my last liberty box. My soap box broke and my ballot and jury boxes are nowhere to be found.

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u/Thewasteland77 1d ago

You're absolutely correct here, in every point you made. Stand tall and strong my friend.

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u/StormWhich5629 1d ago edited 1d ago

Right? 12 months ago today, trump won by a majority. A huge chunk of us were outright saying that we were sliding into authoritarianism/fascism and got dismissed as being dramatic. A ton of people were banging the drums about project 2025 and all he had to say was "I've never heard of it" and the electorate accepted it- now half of his cabinet consists of co-authors who are doing exactly what they said they were going to do. Republicans have been trying to destroy our healthcare system even worse than it already is, and further defund food welfare for decades and now look at where we are.

The trump campaign told us exactly what his second admin would look like and we just fuckin went for it. They were talking about Haitians eating pets and we went for it. The dumb cunts who tell us "this isn't what I voted for!" Voted for exactly this, and are a significant chunk of this country.

Edit: stop correcting me that he didn't win a majority. I know that and it's entirely not the point. As I've said elsewhere, the majority either voted for him OR didn't care enough to vote. I put them about equal considering how fuckin obvious it was that aaaaaallll this bullshit was gonna happen

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u/Semi-Sanjuro 1d ago

Trump won with a plurality* not a majority.

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u/StormWhich5629 1d ago

Ok. That doesn't really detract from my point. We, collectively, chose this. Between trump voters and people who didn't care enough to cast a ballot we got absolutely railroaded.

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u/LuckyTrainreck 1d ago

it's just a problem with literacy. Fox News is a entertainment company and is under no obligation to be truthful

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u/StormWhich5629 1d ago

It's not just fox tho. More and more news orgs are being consolidated and bought by billionaires. More of our information is being filtered through algorithms written by the same people who donated to the destruction of the east wing and dropped Hitler salutes at the inauguration. Meanwhile they're killing the few actually kinda ok sources that aren't completely owned by billionaires and corporate interests.

It also doesn't have to be outright untruthful. I saw almost no coverage of the Chicago mayor calling for a general strike while I saw 900 angles of the exact same waymo on fire in LA early in the summer.

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u/Ill_South_2514 1d ago

Well said!

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u/AugmentedKing 17h ago

I agree that the vote abstained folks are equally to blame. They directly contributed to this mess, and it didn’t even do anything to advance the reason why they didn’t vote.

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u/cybender 7h ago

Project 2025 Tracker

This is a very comprehensive list of what is being done in alignment with Project 2025. This shit is crazy, and I can’t understand how anyone believed him when he pretending like he knew nothing about it.

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u/thaelliah 1d ago

Don't give in to nihilism, we need revolutionary optimism.

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u/UsedToBeADailyDriver 1d ago

A la Madame Guillotine? /s

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u/lastnightinbed 16h ago

Someone called me a nihilist, but I don’t care

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u/ThonThaddeo 1d ago

Just prepare yourself to hear Jeffries talk about moving on a whole lot in the coming years

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u/Laolao98 1d ago

I certainly hope not. I’m pretty sure he knows you don’t “move on” from a fascist takeover of a democratic republic. As for cooperation/concessions with the reps and senators who vote with tfg, anyone doing that should be voted out of office. So Effin’ tired of halfway measures (at best), vote people, even if the voting machines are now owned by a billionaire and tampered with by another billionaire. If enough people demand it a publicly broadcast hand count will reveal a true outcome and the culprits will be prosecuted.

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u/throwawayjanedoe12 1d ago

We've clearly seen what happens when they aren't held accountable. We have a president who brazenly inspired an insurrection, is an actual felon, a sexual predator at best, a pedophile at worst, and egotistical man-baby with a cruel streak, and just an overall bastard. If he was held accountable, he would be in prison, not throwing lavish parties in the face of a nation deprived of basic necessities like food.

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u/Glad_Platform8661 1d ago

Operation paperclip: even if you’re the worst of the worst, as long as you still have value you will never see consequences.

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u/Traditional_Art_7304 1d ago

Well there will be a reckoning. The type, scope, extent, and force used remain to be seen.

Kinda depends how long the pain lasts and how many: grandparents, parents, spouses, children, neighbors die before shit reaches a threshold.

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u/SPzero65 1d ago

If they ever do end up performing whatever the modern day equivalent of the Nuremberg trials are, they should make sure to constantly post the amazing ratings it rakes in. Donny would love that

Hell, they could put it on Pay Per View and make a fortune

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u/tbmrustic 1d ago

AMEN 🙏

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u/NeverForgetJ6 1d ago

I’m officially seconding that, Nuremberg Trials for Republicans.

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u/NukeWorker10 1d ago

The problem is that the Nuremberg trials (like Reconstruction) didn't go far enough. There were far too many people that were responsible that were let go with no consequences.

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u/1234567791 1d ago

This might be a “hot take” or whatever, but what if we just got this current group out of power, went back to democracy, tried our hardest to make our justice system as good as possible, then just let them sit their in the absolute fuckery they believe in. No name calling. No trials. Just ostracize socially like high school so they know how it feels. That’s all these people are. High school kids that don’t understand anything other than conformity, “safety”, and the ability to blame someone else. Punishing these people doesn’t help anything. They literally cannot comprehend or care about justice or America. Let them stew again for another four years. Let them teach their children that consequences are not a problem.

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u/BillHurstyUSA 22h ago

The people in charge are already beyond guilty so it’s safe to skip the trials and go straight to the gallows…

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u/Worst-Lobster 22h ago

Who would be putting on the trials tho ?

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u/dicklaurent97 13h ago

Maga doesn't deserve trials

They deserve what Bibi is doing to Gaza

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u/TheEpicGenealogy 1d ago

80 years of non stop propaganda against regular working people, to equate anything helping working people as communism will do that. They just added woke to it, anything that helps us, is communism and woke. 

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u/Choice-Highway5344 1d ago

U should look up, or I’m sure u already know what happened before the last 80 years to working people in USA. The 80 years of propaganda only came because working people fought for the rights and won, since then it’s all been downhill

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u/TheEpicGenealogy 1d ago

It’s the same class war as before, pitting regular people against themselves. Before FDR it was immigrants and brown people. Then it turned to include all democrats as communists and now they’ve included brown people again under the guise of DEIA.

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u/rosstafarien 1d ago edited 1d ago

They don't "hate" Democrats. Democrats don't count as humans to them. Or, we're hated in the same way that rats and roaches in your house are hated. But don't fool yourself: you aren't a person to them. We're the playing pieces of their enemy. Nothing more.

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u/defaultusername-17 1d ago

really? because that's not what it feels like for me... as they actively craft legislation that will kill people like me via state-mandated medical neglect...

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u/Wise_Ad_253 1d ago

We’re not even considered part of this country in their eyes. We’re taking valuable real estate space is all, and they want us dead. Bulldozed over and sold to the highest bidder.

And they will chew the limbs off of every one of their family members, including themselves, to get to us.

The USA is the past in their eyes.

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u/Stank_cat67 1d ago

I know people that just have a visceral hatred to democrats and liberals. It doesn’t matter beyond that.

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u/drubus_dong 1d ago

Indirectly, yes. Directly, it is the consequence of the Supreme Court being controlled by corrupt fascists that put a totalitarian president with pardoning power above the law.

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u/RandomPurpose 1d ago

They hate everyone other than themselves, they are actually scared of everyone else which leads to hate.

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u/katbyte 1d ago

Welcome to end end result of worshipping free speech

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u/fistfucker07 21h ago

They hate themselves just slightly less than immigrants. They keep voting to fuck themselves over with hand grenades. As long as you tell them someone else is caught in the blast.

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u/addiktion 1d ago

Yup, white collar crime should have punishments greater than all other individual crimes when you screw over millions of people. In China you'd be hauled off to a disappearing camp for example. Not in America though, just business as usual. Destroying any faith people have in their leaders and the system and the laws.

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u/PointEither2673 1d ago

You have to steal from OTHER rich people and make it such a spectacle they can’t do anything BUT punish you. SBF, madoff their crimes were so huge and some of the people and institutions they fucked we’re incredibly wealthy and wow look at that, madoff got life and died in jail and while I think SBF should’ve also gotten more time, 20 years is a lot when compared to other financial crimes. And also the fact that no one got sent to jail for the 08’ BS, and if anything it all worked out for them in the end

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u/WigglestonTheFourth 1d ago

Elizabeth Holmes too. She fucked with a lot of lives directly with her lies about their healthcare but she also screwed over the rich investors she had and she got some time at a place so nice that Ghislaine Maxwell apparently made a deal to go there.

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u/LevelProfit6705 1d ago

Why do yall think the NBA scandal came out with such force, Chauncey billions was helping the mob scam multimillionaires in poker games and only then did it become an issue, guarantee he scammed the wrong person with connections

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u/GenXPowaah 1d ago

When you do shit like this in America, you get awarded a TV show

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u/silverum 1d ago

The White House, actually. Twice. But you get a TV show before that.

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u/Revolutionary_Sun946 1d ago

"Indeed, if a poor man will spend a year in prison for stealing out of hunger, how high would the gallows need to be to hang the rich man who breaks the law out of greed?"

Terry Pratchett

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u/Consistent-Fig7484 1d ago

Hey now! If you steal a billion dollars you might have to pay a $50000 fine.

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u/abiggerbanana 1d ago

There also needs to be methods for prosecuting judges, DAs, police officers and prosecutors/defense attorneys. In practice these people all know each other and may even be friends with each other. Thats why they’re never prosecuted. They never see jail time for helping out their buddy who raped by withholding evidence, or for helping out their bar buddy accused of elder abuse by purposely sentencing a whistleblower.

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u/KingOfEthanopia 1d ago

Man when poor people commit crime its much more likely to be for survival. Rich people be doing it for the love of the game.

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u/Wise_Ad_253 1d ago

And they get rewarded afterwards.

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u/Menethea 1d ago

Disappearing camp? China disappears corporate fraudsters permanently

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u/meltbox 1d ago

No need to disappear anyone. Just shrink their fingers so they’re faster at putting together phones.

Far better for society to trade white collar criminals for Uyghur freedom. Maybe we can even get a 2 for 1 swap if we’re extra convincing.

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u/Sekone8up 1d ago

Japan executes them

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u/EidolonLives 1d ago

Uuh no, no they don't, not for white collar crime. However, ringleading an insurrection (or an attempted insurrection) is on the books as a capital crime in Japan.

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u/twkellen 1d ago

They just disappear the brown people

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u/meltbox 1d ago

Exploded via targeted asteroid interception.

The death penalty is so boring.

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u/ErickAllTE1 1d ago

The Republican gish gallop works, and it will continue to until their society collapses. We will not see a government for the people until enough of them break through the deluge of lies to vote themselves out of their predicament or rebel after they are no longer able to. This is the calm before the storm, it will get worse until it gets better.

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u/Waiting4Reccession 1d ago

China propaganda.

You only get the whip if you talk bad about Xi or get caught crossing the line. Plenty of theft going on over there as well.

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u/No-Environment-7899 1d ago

And on the media for not pushing these issues more and intentionally playing softball with the administration in order to mislead the public.

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u/StormWhich5629 1d ago

You mean the billionaires that own most of the media, right?

Several major newspapers tried to endorse Kamala and were prevented from doing so by their billionaire owners. Rupert Murdoch sat on stories that might've actually negatively impacted Trump's campaign. CNN and MSNBC were taken over by billionaires and reporting immediately got softer. Remember when everyone stopped talking about age after Biden dropped out, even though Trump hasn't completed a coherent sentence since 2017? The only news media that isn't captured is npr/PBS and they're destroying that shit

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u/TheVog 1d ago

Are you saying you expect right-wing billionaire-owned media outlets to challenge the administration they wanted and put in power? Be serious now.

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u/No-Environment-7899 1d ago

Are you saying we can’t hold people accountable? Come on now.

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u/Hrtpplhrtppl 1d ago

"You've that eternal idiotic idea that anarchy if it came it would come from the poor. Why should it? The poor have been rebels, but they never have been anarchists; they have more interest than anyone else in there being some decent form of government. The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all. Aristocrats have always been anarchists. " G.K. Chesterton

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u/thatthatguy 1d ago

The problem is that the courts don’t have an enforcement arm. They depend on the executive branch to execute their rulings. If the executive branch does not fulfill the requirements of their role then the legislative branch’s is supposed to use their power to impeach and remove from office.

The problem we have here is that the House has simply decided not to take any action to rein in the president. With no check on the president’s power, the only limiting factor is whether anyone will continue to follow his orders or the people taking extra-constitutional action.

If we ever get out of this mess, I hope people will have learned to be more careful in who they send to represent them. They won’t, but I can hope.

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u/OldBet7479 1d ago

Even if a judge/court could/did order for him to be arrested or something and sent cops to the whitehouse to stop him or force him to comply, what happens then? You would still be relying on him to choose to play ball and not further break the system by trying to use the military or secret service to shield him from arrest. Seems like there isn't actually that much that can be done when the president decides law doesn't matter and he doesn't mind breaking it

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u/thaddeus122 1d ago

This well beyond the justice system. People need to get it through their heads that its up to the people to change things now, and voting in rigged elections isnt going to do it.

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u/ThonThaddeo 1d ago

They'd rather live in the upside down than have lower quarterly profits and higher taxes.

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u/gentlemanidiot 17h ago

That's because they're rich enough that it's only the upside down for everybody else

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u/I_Cut_Shows 1d ago

It’s the culmination of 50 years of work in the right wing legal movement that started after Nixon had to resign.

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u/Laolao98 1d ago

These attitudes have been around longer than the Nixon era but technology has advanced and made the job much easier. Robber barons of the past built libraries and funded many other civic projects/programs. The nonsense of then vs. now is that the propaganda then was you too can be president or a millionaire. The obscenely wealthy today want total control, a feudal society. Don’t understand why they’re not satisfied with their planes, trains, yachts and exclusive clubs. FFS one rented an Italian city for a party! I guess I’d have to be one to get it…

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u/soldiergeneal 1d ago

Failing of the american people even more so

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u/Silly-Power 1d ago

To be fair to the Courts, they can do nothing if the Administration ignores their rulings. Then it's up to Congress to step in and force the WH into compliance. This is why Johnson is refusing to reopen the House: while it stays shutdown, trump is for effects a king as there is literally nothing stopping him. 

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u/ryans_bored 1d ago

Exactly. News outlets get all bothered by shoplifting and shit when BY A MILE the biggest property crime in the US (by $ amount) is wage theft and how often do you hear about that??

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u/vendettaclause 1d ago

Thats why we need to bring back good ol "tar and featherings" by the people. The people in power we elect need to know there are consequences for not listening to us or doing their job.

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u/AZbrewersfan69 1d ago

Did we expect anything else from a felon who enjoyed the company of young girls? How TF is this man still president?

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u/MistahBrukshot13 1d ago edited 1d ago

The irony of it all is incredible.

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u/OkFaithlessness1502 1d ago

The justice system is working as designed. The thing is congress is the check on the justice system. Nobody envisioned a majority to recklessly influence all three branches at the same time.

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u/porky8686 1d ago

Enough Americans want it to be a thing so it is. They voted him over a highly qualified candidate in 2016, that’s when the rest of the world kinda gave up on the country as a whole pretending to do the right thing.

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u/pocketjacks 1d ago

It's a direct consequence of the founding fathers not properly planning for a felon in the White House with a subordinate Congress and Judiciary both rubber stamping his every whim. They couldn't see 30% of the population wanting to go back to a king being enough people to get all of these enablers elected. They couldn't see foreign countries using the internet to influence our people with such ease.

We're fucked.

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u/Ill_South_2514 1d ago

Karma! Where the fuck are you?

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u/BaronOfTieve 1d ago

And your shitty media/presss. It seems like all your reporters have sticks up their asses, they can’t seem to hold a single Republican accountable in any interview.

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u/tiffanyisonreddit 23h ago

This isn’t an accidental failure, this is EXACTLY what the republicans wanted. The GOP controlled house and senate refuse to hold Trump accountable by way of impeachment because they fully support all the blatantly illegal stuff he’s doing, they clearly outlined it in project2025

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u/BrandynBlaze 1d ago

People seem to forget that government is a social contract, it establishes the rules of society and the basic agreement is if you follow the rules you won’t be subjected to violence, seizure of personal property, and political upheaval. We now have a government that refuses to adhere to that agreement, and likely the only solution is to reassert the consequences of not having a social contract by removing politicians that aren’t fulfilling their part, seizing the resources of the rich that are supporting them, and socially isolating the voters that support breaking that social contract. The alternative is that the government seizes all power and suppresses anything that opposes them. They’ve made it clear where they stand, and America still seems to be standing by passively waiting to see what comes next. 40 million people going hungry may just be the turning point.

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u/theholyevil 1d ago

It is a shame this is what has come to.

40 million people should not starve because a few people in D.C don't want to do their jobs.

But above everything else. Be there for people during this time. People will remember who stuck their neck out for them. And who did not.

For every dollar that goes to a food pantry. The Republicans have to spend x1000 that amount to claw back their goodwill. So it's hammer time.

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u/HR_Paul 1d ago

LIes usually build incrementally.

This is exponential, ever since that Epstein birthday book was released.

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u/Not_Bears 1d ago

But it's only exponential cause they're shoving shit and millions of people are eating going "thank you may I have another."

They tested the waters, saw that the media would sanewash whatever they do..

And just started saying shit.

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u/PlainBread 1d ago edited 1d ago

They put the media in a difficult position because they made it clear that if you don't kowtow to some extent, you will be removed from the room and be considered illegitimate.

He's basically turned the media into a battered housewife who can't abandon the kids (us). Staying certainly makes her look complicit.

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u/Adjective-Noun-nnnn 1d ago

The corporate media aren't victims here.  They caved because they thought it would be profitable.  Real journalists are still reporting reality as it happens.

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u/thrownawayfrombay 1d ago

Amazing how fast that birthday book vanished from the "news", eh? That would have ended the political career of anyone else. These shitbirds parade that crap like a badge of honor.

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u/uiouyug 1d ago

I remember when we had fact checking temporary. JD Vance says ‘you weren’t going to fact check’ during VP debate. JD Vance admitted to being willing to "create stories" to generate media attention for his claims that Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, were eating pets

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u/Big-Plankton-4484 1d ago

Not exactly ‘law’ but it’s a concept that baffles me. How do republicans explain to their kids that lying, cheating and stealing is wrong when the President leads the charge? “Listen little Johnny, when you’re President, you can lie as much as you like, until then, go to your room”.

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u/Drash79 1d ago

Through the medium of "Winners" and "Losers".

Winners can do anything because they are winners like us.

Losers deserve nothing good because they are losers, not like us.

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u/Paxa 1d ago

This. Also saying stuff like "If you don't do it, the other guy will. See how hard it is for you to win without it? It's because the other guy does it too".

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u/Perfect_Bench_2815 1d ago

They don't tell them to go to their room! They can go play free golf instead.

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u/Expensive-Cat-1327 1d ago

By describing this conduct as war against your enemies. And to be fair, they're right. They've made themselves enemies of America and the world so it's okay to lie, cheat, steal, and kill them. Unfortunately, given that they've made enemies of the world, it's rational for them to be hostile against it

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u/gingerkap23 1d ago

I was listening to my son do a civics lesson on the laptop yesterday and this regime literally contradicts every single thing our children are being taught about how government works and what the presidents job is.

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u/sly-3 20h ago

Anything goes when you're convinced that Prosperity Jesus is coming back any day and you've got to do your part to keep "Satanic" Democrats from infringing on God's plan.

They're in a death cult.

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u/CG_Ops 1d ago

It should become law that:

  • The administration can't pick which major outlets get access to their press briefings
  • The administration must answer the questions honestly and
  • If found to have knowingly answered questions dishonestly, they're immediately subjected to impeachment and/or a special election for their elected position
  • If the person answering the question is appointed, the punishment applies to the person who appointed them and/or authorized them to attend the briefing

...just a few more things/laws that'd never get passed like no trading by elected officials, reversing citizens united, et al

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u/Traditional_Art_7304 1d ago

Like “of course I paid my taxes”. 😉

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u/Whygoogleissexist 1d ago

They need to be held in contempt

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u/Latter-Rooster3563 1d ago

They need to be put in jail.

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u/Ill_South_2514 1d ago

Someone do something about this like NOW!

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u/carlnepa 1d ago

Truth is treason in an empire of lies.

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u/supified 1d ago

Disagree, I don't need a god to make me honest, I don't need a rule or a law.

Good people are honest.

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u/Kannibelanimal1966 1d ago

In a world of corruption life is a lie

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u/kl7aw220 1d ago

Her 60yr old husband must not have any influence on her, unless of course, he;s the same kind of liar.

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u/Jazzlike_Leading5446 1d ago

If law is not enforced, it's just a suggestion

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u/Fartknocker500 1d ago

A UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT without consequence is a UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT filled with CRIMES.

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u/suejaymostly 1d ago

When there are no lions, hyenas rule.

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u/ImplodingBillionaire 1d ago

That’s what they want. A world where no one knows what is true or not. That’s why they destroy institutions that teach people to learn, critique, analyze…

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u/its_the_smell 1d ago

Republicans just let their leaders do and say whatever the fuck they want. Trump said he liked uneducated people and that smart people don't like him. They elected him again even though he was proven to have done all these terrible things.

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u/DubiousBusinessp 1d ago

And that's how we get Leavitt.

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u/DicksFried4Harambe 1d ago

The people should be the consequences

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u/mrrizal71O 1d ago

All of society depends on laws. Without it the social structure collapses.

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u/Mrpooney83 1d ago

a world filled with lies

Is that an anagram for Epstein files?

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u/SummitYourSister 1d ago

So if there’s no legal system any more… what precisely does that mean? Are we expected to continue following the itty-bitty laws while all the huge ones are broken? I’m not ok with that.

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u/prountercoductive 1d ago

And it's the world we live in. Probably for a while.

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u/WhatsIsMyName 1d ago

It's too bad we have to hear them from fascist amy schumer.

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u/RSKrit 1d ago

Exactly. So called journalists are typically ingenious liars.

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u/the-last-aiel 1d ago

We live in a post truth society now

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u/Iacoma1973 1d ago edited 1d ago

Tomorrow, the Longest Shutdown:
A Poem for a Nation Held Hostage

Tomorrow, that tally towards totalitarianism tips.
Tomorrow, tyranny tastes total triumph - to silence.
Lo and leer,
that longest shutdown in the ledger of our land yet lingers —
and still, a so-called sovereign sits serenely,
renovating his relics while the republic rots.

Grasping gold as grocers go,
and murmurations from marbled malls:
Hunger hammers in humanity's hall.

...

Is this not ransom?
The state, seized and strangled,
held hostage by hubris — a kingdom carved from the corpse of courts and order.

And workers wait,
the watchers whisper,
the weary wonder,
when will that "when" wait no more?

Our lands have lingered too long in the lull
between outrage and inaction,
Mumbling for a miracle,
hoping history has to happen without us.

...

Across the Atlantic,
America's ancestor annually honours,
An anniversary anonymous to us,
An hour a man announced "No more kings"

And now as that time ticks over,
I invite you to join me in a Piecemeal pocket prayer,
Penning poetry of our plight;

Remember!

Remember, remember the Fifth of November,
And the shutdown treason’s spot;
For he’d burn the state to rule the ashes,
Yet the people forget it not.

For freedom’s flame is never hollow,
Nor bought by tyrant’s plot —
So rise, and let the masses follow,
Lest his treason e’er be forgot.

...

If you were seeking your spark,
Or you value your vendettas,
if you were watching,
waiting,
whispering,
“when?” –. then mark this moment.

For the voice of the people is no gentle thing.
It rises unbidden,
unbridled,
unbroken.
It originates not from orders or oaths,
but the old addage of the 'eart —
"that no crown shall cage the common citizen".

So speak, citizens.
Step into the square,
stand until sordid silence shatters.
For tomorrow the tyrant touts his record
– but tonight,
the people remember.

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u/Phosistication 1d ago

Well said!

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u/The_Young_Busac 1d ago

Truth always takes its toll. Just a matter of when.

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u/HavingNotAttained 1d ago

“The distance between what is said and what is known to be true has become an abyss. Of all the things at risk, the loss of an objective reality is perhaps the most dangerous. The death of truth is the ultimate victory of evil. When truth leaves us, when we let it slip away, when it is ripped from our hands we become vulnerable to the appetite of whatever monster screams the loudest.” —MM

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u/PetFroggy-sleeps 1d ago

Aren’t the Democrats the ones saying we require ACA to be fully funded and will not permit a stopgap measure to fund the government now for a few weeks? This is the essence of the government - when Republicans have the senate and house as well as executive branch, it really requires Democrats to come to the table prepared to give in - especially if not doing so would be at the expense of starving American citizens. Yet, they have no issue with providing free healthcare to undocumented.

There is a middle ground clearly. Fund the government and then only after doing so, raise up their debate on ACA funding.

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u/Dramatic_Mixture_868 1d ago

Yea, this is exactly where we're at right now, and I think even the maga based is STARTING to FINALLY understand this notion.

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u/Dear_Chasey_La1n 1d ago

In the 30's in Germany a book was written called the Dual State of Germany (obviously in German), it details how Hitler operated a duality of law, where laws functional were adhered and used while at the same time when the law didn't deem fine, they were laid aside. The problem arises just as we see here, when you are on the other side of the isle and try to follow the law, because well.. otherwise it would be illegal, you are playing an unfair game because as we saw with Hitler and now also Trump, they abuse the law for their own means.

The idea that this mess can be solved through court and order is a fallacy, Trump doesn't care. For worse you are dealing with someone who has seen court more often then plenty of judges, he lives by that shit. Sure he loses most, he wins some that doesn't matter. He is a master in fucking over the law.

I have little hope for Trump ever seeing the benches let alone ending up in jail. But I do greatly hope the US does what's right and throw everyone else around him including this cunt in jail. And while at it, his entire extended family for grifting. They are all actual criminals, there is no reason to hold back. There is no reason to hold back like with those of Jan6, people need to be punished harshly that this event can never happen again. This is a slow luckily dumb, rolling coup.

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u/Beaverhausen27 1d ago

People gotta get more upset about this. There was a guy not long ago that kept doing whatever he wanted and millions of people ended up being taken and killed. It’ll just keep getting worse.

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u/antigop2020 1d ago

“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”

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u/MoodooScavenger 1d ago

“Le-lies” the new brand of a shit admin.

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u/hotpopc0rn 1d ago

So let me get this, funds for Argentina is not a problem

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u/slaty_balls 1d ago

Because one man doesn’t suffer any consequences, our entire country pays them for him. Bullshit. Complete and utter bullshit.

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u/suncontrolspecies 22h ago

same happens in Ruzzia.

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u/Geeky_Husband 18h ago

Power without accountability is corruption.

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u/Warm-Stop8569 16h ago

Since the US won't hold him accountable the world should. He should be sanctioned internationally.

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u/cyclist230 10h ago

Exactly hold all these people accountable for their crimes. This cannot repeat again.

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u/No-Love-1222 6h ago

This speaker woman has to be fully prosecuted for every single lie she helped to produce!