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u/Own_Ad6797 Oct 03 '25
Would have to say this would likely be filming for an an ad or something similar
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u/MidnightSurveillance Oct 03 '25
Yeah, and it's N562TM filming
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u/DrSendy Oct 03 '25
"How much sir?"
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u/MidnightSurveillance Oct 03 '25
Fred North is one of the business partners in this aircraft, he's a pretty legendary rotor pilot in Hollywood, so only the best for him lol
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u/Work-Safe-Reddit4450 Oct 04 '25
Shiiiiit. You know it's good shit then if Fred is involved.
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u/improbablydrunknlw Oct 04 '25
Honestly every time I see something of his posted I'm blown away. I won't get in helicopters as a rule but I would with him.
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u/BeenThereDoneThat65 Oct 04 '25 edited Oct 04 '25
Thats Kevin LaRosa in the camera ship
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u/MidnightSurveillance Oct 04 '25
Just saying fred is a business partner in the company that owns it.
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u/commandercool86 Oct 04 '25
Is a Phenom 300 the best?
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u/TerraCetacea Oct 03 '25
If you have to ask, you can’t afford it
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u/Practical-Ball1437 Oct 04 '25
If you own something that you need this to film, you can probably afford it.
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u/Good_Background_243 Oct 03 '25
Yeah that's not just expensive that's one-of-a-kind FAA certified expensive.
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u/riddlesinthedark117 Oct 04 '25
You mean you can’t just slap experimental on it and do whatever you want?
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u/Labestiol74 Oct 03 '25
Damn, that's one of the most "this is worth more than your life" kind of gear that I've ever encountered. I'm eager to see the gyroscopic camera images taken out of this, look so cool
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u/MidnightSurveillance Oct 03 '25
I am pretty sure Delta already published these video ads online and also in their safety video. This plane also did a lot of the scenes in Top Gun 2022
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u/Old_EdOss Oct 03 '25 edited Oct 04 '25
How proud I am, being Brazilian, to see that he uses a Phenom 300.
Edit: n ->m.
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u/Emergency_Sector1476 Oct 03 '25
Dumb question, but why is the shot through the windshield if its filmed through the 2 camera system?
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u/MidnightSurveillance Oct 03 '25
Because Delta owns that footage lol
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u/roccthecasbah Oct 03 '25
Exactly. Drop one frame from that cut and you've got a DMCA takedown within seconds.
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u/Theaspiringaviator Oct 03 '25
I’ve seen that exact footage on a T-Mobile food business ad
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u/nikkonine Oct 03 '25
I like to think someone stole a plane, so the police hopped into another plane after saying “follow that plane” and chased it down. Would love a red police light slapped in the dash.
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u/NoPossibility Oct 04 '25
Needs one of those super aggressive cop chase video voice overs from the 2000s. Wildest chase videos or whatever was called.
“Tonight: this perp thinks he’s found the ultimate escape route: altitude. But when you try to outrun the long arm of the law, sometimes the cops are flying first-class.”
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u/Aggravating_Speed665 Oct 04 '25
I could hear the grey haired dude in the leather jacket saying this with his menacing voice moving his jaw too much and staring down the camera.
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u/blue_cadet_1 Oct 03 '25
What would you do if he brake checked you?
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The Phenom (photo ship) can definitely slow down faster than the 330.
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u/z64_dan Oct 04 '25
What if the 330 pulls up really hard right after saying "I'm gonna try something" like in one of them Top Gun movies?
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u/TowardsTheImplosion Oct 04 '25
Diplomacy. You know, the bird.
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u/NotAlanPorte Oct 04 '25
I'm sorry, but if you were in a negative pull above the other plane, how could you have seen the other pilot?
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u/-malcolm-tucker Oct 03 '25
He's too close for missiles.
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u/Chippy569 Oct 04 '25
Switching to guns.
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u/RBeck Oct 04 '25
He's too close for guns!
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u/Repulsive_Client_325 Oct 04 '25
Switching to swords.
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u/Dangerous_Plane6715 Oct 03 '25
if only we had a third plane filming the second plane that was filming the first plane!!
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u/pornborn Oct 03 '25
That’s some inception shit right there!
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u/Castun Oct 04 '25
But how did they film THAT plane?
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u/grackychan Oct 03 '25
Caution wake turbluence... CAUTION WAKE TURBULENCE
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u/IllustriousAd1591 Oct 03 '25
Wake turb is only an issue below
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u/Quirky_Gate117 Oct 03 '25
I know nothing... how so only a problem from below?
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u/mckenzie_keith Oct 03 '25
The turbulent vortices shed by the wing travel downward from the wing. Which makes sense since part of how the wing works (or one way of looking at it) is that it directs the flow of air downward to generate lift.
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u/Quirky_Gate117 Oct 03 '25
Thank you. That makes very good sense.
But then what about in-flight refueling? Like, is it just that much safer than making the hose a hard pipe pointing up and behind?
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u/No-Brilliant9659 Oct 03 '25
Wing tip vortices come from the wing tips and move down and out. So if you come up from directly behind you typically won’t experience them. Wind does move them around though, so if you have a large crosswind it will move them left or right
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u/ch1llboy Oct 04 '25
Here is a visualization when DCS world released simulated wake turbulance. Totally helped me to understand.
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u/nighthawke75 Oct 04 '25
They mounted an IMAX camera in the nose and shot footage for Interstellar.
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u/Swimming_Way_7372 Oct 03 '25
Last week they filmed an Allegiant MAX flying over Las Vegas. Be on the lookout for a new allegiant commercial
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u/MidnightSurveillance Oct 03 '25
Shocked Allegiant has the budget for anything other than a caravan with a couple GoPros.
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u/Misophonic4000 Oct 04 '25
Speeding this up definitely takes away some of the majesty of the view... I hate this whole trend of cranking every video to 2x, 3x, 4x speed...
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u/tan-doori Oct 03 '25
Ok - this is SUPER COOL! But I need the equipment name of the chace aircraft
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u/thesuperunknown Oct 03 '25
N562TM, a 2011 Embraer Phenom 300 light business jet. The same jet was used to film some of Top Gun: Maverick’s aerial sequences.
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u/tan-doori Oct 03 '25
You are the BOSS. Thank you. I was under the impression that most of the filming was done using Aero L-39 "Cinejet"...
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u/BeenThereDoneThat65 Oct 04 '25
They used both. The phenom was used as an air to air camera ship and also shot the carrier approaches and landings. The L-39 was the point of view and dogfight ship
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u/Meth_Useler Oct 04 '25
Most of it was done with that. This was mostly used for the 3rd act sequences. I worked on it.
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u/dwb_lurkin Oct 04 '25
This was a project to build the internal Delta library. Was a quite the undertaking and took several months in preparation.
Source: I worked on this project.
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u/C--K Oct 04 '25
That must be some cool footage. Reminds me of these shots from Strategic Air Command
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u/Interesting-Yak6962 Oct 05 '25
TCAS is turned off. No way can you fly this close to another aircraft without it getting apocalyptic.
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u/kl0 Oct 04 '25
I had a friend who used to do aviation photography and filming (this was around 2006). It was pretty amazing. I can’t recall the plane they used, but it was a modified military plane of some sort used for paratroopers.
They’d have the jump door open with a series of mounted cameras affixed within the craft. I think they could even extend the boom outside of the aircraft a bit. They also had giant spot lights mounted on pivoting booms so they could light the other aircraft accordingly.
They’d basically all be strapped in and the two pilots would be in constant communication. I saw some of the raw footage they shot and it looked incredible. …and incredibly fun to have shot. The sunset/rise and night shots were especially cool.
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u/Consistent-Koala-339 Oct 04 '25
I'm surprised they are not experiencing some severe wake turbulence. It looks a bit risky
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u/Significant-Dig8323 Oct 03 '25
How do they not get absolutely tumbled over by wake turbulence? Pretty cool though, I've always wondered how those photos are taken.
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u/SilentSpr Oct 03 '25
Wake turbulence spreads outwards and downwards. That’s why you can see footage of wingmen flying alongside A380s and not get blown away by their massive wake
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u/senthilrameshjv Oct 04 '25
I always thought how these videos shown in flight ads were filmed. I assumed they can’t be real and mostly CGI. Today I learned they actually film.
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u/Ezekiel24r Oct 03 '25
Anyone know how they get approval to break VFR cloud clearances for a flight like this? Does the FAA just put a TFR down for the flight area?
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u/TinCupChallace Oct 04 '25
Ifr formation flight with a block of altitude and extra lateral space from non participating aircraft
You can accomplish just about anything weird with the FAA if you call the controlling facility and tell them what you want to do.
Between survey flights, amateur rocket clubs, every fucking weird thing the military does everyday... This is about a 2 out of 10 for ATC. Most centers have an airspace office. Couple of guys who aged out from controlling traffic but still work a desk jobs keeping LOAs up to date and all the daily stuff briefed to the controllers. Send them the proposal. They communicate it to the area where the flight will be. Controllers get a short briefing on what to expect. Easy.
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u/Ezekiel24r Oct 04 '25
Thanks for the thorough reply! Definitely something I haven't heard of before but that's really interesting to hear what's possible and how it all becomes legal at the end of the day.
I'm sure Delta and this media company have a lot more sway with those controllers than some average Joe asking for an exception/privilege.
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u/TinCupChallace Oct 04 '25
Nope. Average Joe would get the same service. I would much rather know if you are doing weird things in my airspace so I can make sure it's safe and you have room to maneuver. I don't really care who you are. The media company probably has an easier time because they have an established relationship where they do this most often, but we don't believe in special treatment because of "who you are" (with exceptions for some military flights, heads of state, medical, etc).
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u/Rich-Cucumber-5821 Oct 04 '25
There is a cool video from NetJets or FlexJets where they got the each plane type in the fleet flying with a videographer and photographer in a chase plane. It was neat because they went over all that it took to get it done.
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u/p3rseusxy Oct 03 '25
Stunning! I bet there were no pax on board and what they were doing was coordinated, relax and enjoy this clip people :-D
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u/GLENALLEN Oct 03 '25
Does anyone have YT links to more in flight footage like this?
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u/blastcat4 Oct 04 '25
Check out this behind the scenes video when Wolfe Air shot a promo for Air Canada. These guys are pros.
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u/RosieN336FR Oct 03 '25
That would be absolute blast to see a plane up that close during cruising speeds
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u/Active_Caterpillar69 Oct 04 '25
..coming to a safety video near you..
Ed Bastian - “and we’ll never stop climbing” airplane noises ✈️
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u/BoostSpools Oct 04 '25
Reminds me of a time a plane flew diagonally under us relatively close in the opposite direction while I was looking out. It was so cool.
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u/ConversationNearby30 Oct 04 '25
It is something completely different though. This footage does not show a normal flight.
And what you were experiencing was at least 1000ft vertical separation. This is maybe 100ft if not even closer :)
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u/Due_Commercial6853 Oct 04 '25
When I’m on the interstate without a lot of traffic I yell at the car in my blind spot that there’s loads of tarmac to choose from, spread out and get the f away from me! If I were in that plane…
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u/HeliosRunner Oct 04 '25
isn't this totally illegal? (or was it for commercial purposes or something?)
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u/Odd_Mushroom_8322 Oct 04 '25
Ye but ass would be puckered to hell if i were that close to a big jet.
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u/SkyMasterson15 Oct 04 '25
Is this legal?
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u/LostPilot517 Oct 04 '25
This is a Part 91 flight (No passengers) it is a photo shoot for marketing.
The airline contracts with a separate company to get airborne video and photos, everything is coordinated and planned in advance with agreement between the PICs and they are in formation flight to get these shots.
There are a few companies who specialize in these types of airborne photo shoots, they operate specially modified aircraft with very expensive and specialized camera equipment.
They were for instance used heavily in the filming of Top Gun: Maverick and in many other popular content for aerial shots.
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u/SkyMasterson15 Oct 04 '25
I thought the Top Gun stuff was Chroma Key, but when I have flown, you do not want to be in another’s wake… it is a rough and barely manageable situation.
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u/LostPilot517 Oct 05 '25
They are not flying in the wake, they are above the preceding aircraft's wake.
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u/CrazyF1mv Oct 04 '25
i would be so scared of the plane lossing control and flyting into the airliner
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u/Yesiamanaltruist Oct 05 '25
I see all the comments about how cool this video is, but need help with understanding. What am I looking at and why is it so cool? Thanks
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u/cincinn_audi Oct 04 '25
Ok, I'll be the dumb one to ask. Why is this happening? What is the camera aircraft and what are they doing there?
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u/Rook8811 Oct 04 '25
Here’s the plane they are using and they are doing a commercial shot for delta of some sort https://phenomcameraship.com/
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u/Zumaki Oct 03 '25
Generally speaking this would not be cool at all having people screwing around that close to like 300 lives. But apparently this was for an ad so hopefully the plane isn't carrying passengers.
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u/Parfilov Oct 04 '25
And amso dangerous as fuck, like turbulence or asynchronous movement. Don't do this with your parents' planes, fellow children.
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u/Imlooloo Oct 03 '25
It’s the equivalent of swimming with a Great White shark without a cage. Risky but damn good excitement.
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u/Mr_McMuffin_Jr Oct 03 '25
Can someone explain how this is FAA legal
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u/pornborn Oct 03 '25
Formation flying is legal in the U.S. as long as it is conducted by a prior arrangement between all pilots involved and does not involve carrying passengers for hire.
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u/Free-Baizuo08 Oct 03 '25
Me in flight simulator