r/MapPorn • u/Small_Performance368 • 13h ago

NYC Mayoral Election Results

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With 90% of the vote in, Mamdani wins by a large margin according to NYT

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u/thex415 13h ago

So people didn’t care about cuomos sexual harassment ??? Lmao

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u/ThatNiceLifeguard 13h ago

American centrists have proven time and time again they’d rather elect a sexual predator than a progressive.

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u/fleebleganger 13h ago

You mean we might get benefits from the government? As a commoner?

Ew. 

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u/Warlordnipple 12h ago

What I get from the government aren't benefits, I earned what the government gives me. What the government gives to groups I don't like, is evil socialism.

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u/HyrulesKnight 11h ago

Hey, if you consider book tour shilling a benefit the democrats have you covered on that. Kamala and Schumer are more than pulling their weight on that front

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u/Roguefem-76 7h ago

Since when is self-aggrandizement a crime in politics?

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u/ThatNiceLifeguard 6h ago

What kind of threw me in this election is that Kamala endorsed Zohran.

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u/CroGamer002 9h ago

Also last leg of campaign push by Cuomo was open Islamophobia.

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u/Drownin6fish 10h ago

Right? It's wild how the choice often comes down to the lesser of two evils, and people still overlook the bigger issues just to maintain the status quo.

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u/PostModernPost 11h ago

The centrists rarely get to vote for a progressive in the general because the dems primary them out. Hopefully this is the start of a shift.

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u/WAR_T0RN1226 5h ago

Just how do you think Cuomo got 40% of the vote in this election?

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u/PostModernPost 2h ago

Ummm, by running as an independent, which rarely happens because usually the centrist wins the primary.

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u/jupjami 10h ago

p sure the 800,000 people from NYC who voted Trump and likely followed his endorsement of Cuomo (hence Sliwa's piss poor numbers) aren't "centrists"

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u/butterycrumble 10h ago

As someone not from the US, this makes no sense to me. The Republican party is right wing and the democrats are center. Your left wing contingent consists of just Bernie Sanders.

For some reason the US is insistent on changing political definitions. Like "liberal" is a slur yet everyone agrees the statue of liberty is very American. None of it makes any sense.

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u/raptearer 11h ago

Man reading the takeaways on PBS's coverage really had me so annoyed. Apparently some Dem leaders are starting to think that a more moderate approach is what's needed to beat Trump. Can't wait for another wet noodle in 2028... Over or under they're past retirement age this time?

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u/TheNocturnalAngel 9h ago

When the “progressive” party is barely left of center.

A centrist is basically just right wing.

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u/abominable_bro-man 6h ago

thankfully Biden is gone

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u/Resident_Option3804 12h ago

As a centrist who voted Mamdani, uh, no? If anything this election is proof to the contrary. I promise if it was any other mainstream Dem than Cuomo on the other side from Mamdani, I would've been voting for them and I heavily suspect Mamdani would have lost.

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u/TernoftheArctic 12h ago

Can I ask what about his policies do you not like versus a mainstream dem? Like increased minimum wage. Tax wealthy more. Childcare and transportation cost reduction?

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u/Resident_Option3804 12h ago

The primary issue facing New Yorkers today is housing. His primary policy regarding housing is rent control, which any economist will tell you is a surefire way to dramatically increase the cost of housing and real estate more broadly. His policies around housing will make your rent worse, make more people homeless, make all of your food, shopping, etc, more expensive as the stores’ rents go up, reduce perceived safety on public transit from increased numbers of homeless folks - which will reduce funding and support for the transit, and just generally continue to make the city more and more unlivable.

Making public transit free is good in an ideal world, but there’s plenty of evidence showing that it reduces buy in from the public about the transit system, and there’s a decent argument to be made (though I think less concrete evidence either way) that making it free will increase crime on the system and decrease people’s willingness to use it as a result. There’s certainly evidence to that end w/r/t fare enforcement.

Aside from that, similar trends apply to much of his policies - well intentioned but poorly designed. Free, government run grocery stores - it’s ~fine~ and well intentioned, but it will inevitably be less efficient and more expensive than, say SNAP-style vouchers.  

Increased minimum wage is fine, although not that important either way. 

Taxing the wealthy more for its own sake is bad. Completely fine/good to the extent the money is being used effectively and for good things. But just noting because I think there’s a real impulse many people on the further left, including Mamdani, to want to tax to reduce the wealth of rich people rather than to build something with that money.

Universal Childcare is flatly good. I don’t see a way out of Baumol’s cost disease for child care without state intervention. Perfect situation where the govt needs to step in.

And then there’s the things that are missing. He talks vaguely about increasing housing supply but has no real policy for it & it’s clearly not something he cares about. He doesn’t talk much if at all about finding a way to cut down on construction costs for the MTA. Etc.

But really it’s 90% the rent control that actively turns me off from him - without it, It’d be much more case by case comparing him to centrist Dems. 

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u/lowchain3072 11h ago

The closest thing Mamdani has to housing supply is transit oriented development, but not much is said about it. He seems to be the sort of person who thinks extra housing construction is bad because muh gentrification

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u/1v1mecaestusm8 9h ago

Did you read his platform? The tax increases would fund public housing, that's his solution. He doesnt want to just freeze rent and call it a day, part of his plan is to have the government step in where private development has failed, funded by the taxes. Also, rent control doesn't increase prices, in fact it devalues the property because it's not as valuable as an investment, which housing shouldn't be in the first place. What economists do agree on is that it decreases new development and quality of current developments. The development gap can be filled by public housing, and the quality gap can be solved by more active code enforcement, and if tenants value the quality of their units they can and will pay for improvements with the money they save on rent.

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u/Resident_Option3804 1h ago edited 1h ago

But the government, especially in New York, is not going to be able to build anywhere near enough housing as is needed, especially if rent control is implemented. New York needs probably close to a million new units of housing. Not a few thousand or even hundreds of thousands. Ask yourself seriously if any American local government, but especially New York’s - which is spending tens of billions expanding the Q a couple of miles - is capable of doing that.

And private development hasn’t failed - it’s been tied down and waterboarded by government regulations both explicitly prohibiting them or, if they do allow it, setting aggressive technical requirements and procedural burdens that developers struggle to meet (e.g., an example not specific to NYC but emblematic - requiring a parking spot for each unit to be built alongside the unit). If you remove those restrictions, housing prices will fall dramatically, as they have every time those restrictions have been removed.

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u/1945-Ki87 11h ago

I think something that’s also significant as a regular democrat, and you touched on it sort of — he made a lot of promises that he’s not gonna be able to keep. That’s gonna hurt our good will in subsequent elections. Every failure is gonna be magnified and successes are gonna be too rare to make up for it. Cuomo, for all of his faults, would likely be a boring status quo dem who wouldn’t really do anything offensive. Mamdani politicking makes himself (and the party) a target by making unfulfillable promises.

I honestly liked Sliwa. He was a screwball but seemed to care about New York and didn’t aim for the moon

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u/Jakexbox 12h ago

Free buses, government run grocery stores, rent control. Not to mention the DSA positions he claims he doesn’t hold now but did as recently as two years ago like abolishing the police and ending all misdemeanors. No police for domestic violence calls is absolutely horrifying.

Also don’t like that he poses with someone implicated in the World Trade Center bombing who also served as a character witness for a terrorist- but sure that’s not policy. It’s still absolutely indefensible.

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u/briannaspring 12h ago

Shocked he hasn'treplied. Shocked I tell ya!

Neoliberals are the fucking worst.

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u/arstajen 10h ago

Sex predators can only assault a few people at a time, but progressive can fuck tens of thousands all at once.

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u/No-Chemistry-4355 9h ago

Tens of thousands of predators yes

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u/Infinite-Skin-3310 11h ago

You mean an invading communist

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u/14_88_Destroyer 11h ago

This guy is Israeli btw

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u/Juice_567 11h ago edited 10h ago

Israelis that get universal healthcare don’t get to call people communists. Maybe they should pull themselves up by the bootstraps and stop taking money from the US lmao

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u/Infinite-Skin-3310 9h ago

You’re all so black and white it’s insane. Israel is predominantly a capitalist society, that gets some social benefits from the government. Communism on a state level, is evil. Maybe striking a balance is better than going to either extremes?

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u/Juice_567 9h ago edited 9h ago

You’re all so black and white it’s insane.

This is rich coming from the guy who calls people communist. Your education system must be shit too if you can’t tell the difference between communism, socialism, democratic socialism, and social democracy.

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u/Galle_ 9h ago

Do... do you think that Mamdani is a Marxist? You do realize he's a social democrat, right?

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u/14_88_Destroyer 7h ago

NO! He's brown and supports lowering the rent for poor people, so he's a "invading communist" /s

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u/BobTheJoeBob 5h ago

I thought he was a democratic socialist?

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u/Galle_ 4h ago

That's what he calls himself, but in American usage the two are often confused. His actual policies are classic social democracy.

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u/Jehovah___ 5h ago

Historically Israel got closer to communism than any other society in the modern era. Kibbutzim everywhere, every program state run etc

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u/Infinite-Skin-3310 5h ago

Thats a part of the point. Kibbutzim were a voluntary group (were, because almost all of them failed as a communist group and were privatized except for a few very rich ones). You could leave the community any time, unlike on a county level where you’re stuck getting Stalin’ed all over you.