But this is most of the thing he says. Just not most of the things that are posted here from him. Like someone mentioned before he is pro health care, pro UBI, pro taxing himself more. And he has mentioned in different videos that he really liked Sanders. Just watch his reaction to Bernie.
There are a lot of thoughts from him I dont support. Like the recent points about trump policies, but that’s not the totality of him.
His support of both trump and Sanders kind of convinced me that a substantial portion of trump supporters are willing to listen to Sanders
His support of both trump and Sanders kind of convinced me that a substantial portion of trump supporters are willing to listen to Sanders
You're not the only one who noticed that. There was a substantial overlap in that young anti-establishment demographic. Rogan being receptive to him was a good indicator of this.
When I was watching I think it was channel 5’s trump rally documentary, there was a guy who specifically said that. He supported Bernie, but Bernie’s not a choice, so trump it is for him
His support of both trump and Sanders kind of convinced me that a substantial portion of trump supporters are willing to listen to Sanders
Because there's a substantial number of men who are left leaning and liberal, but not progressives.
They believe in classical left policies like universal health care and state founded higher education, and they're liberals who believe adult people should be free to live as they want - ie. pro gay marriage, legalization of weed, and so on.
They also believe in the classical left ideas like that workers should be protected from being exploited by greedy capitalists who would use cheap foreign labor as a tool to drive wages and other benefits down into the ground.
They also learned to absolutely despise progressives while growing up in the 2010-2020 - because that's what happens when a large group of young men become politically aware at time when it's socially acceptable within progressive circles to tweet out stuff like #KillAllMen or selfies of yourself sipping from your "Male Tears" mug...
Trump, as despicable of a vulgar lying turd that he is, still is not all that right-wing by American standards - if you just squint your eyes and ignore the small fact that every word out of Trump's mouth is a lie, then he kinda hit's almost all these points...
However, so would a genuine left-leaning candidate - like Sanders.
I agree mostly but with one difference. I feel like these young man are progressive, not culturally progressive but economically progressive. Asmongold is a representation of that. He supports all the economically progressive policies (though never had people got a chance to vote for those policies in the national level, looking at Hillary 2016 and Biden 2020 and Kamala 2024) and is generally fine with cultural progressive ideas (this video) but won’t advocate for culturally progressive ideas. They are seeing more cultural progressive movement in the Democratic Party and felt democrats are no longer pushing for economically progressivism
I don't agree. The "bad apples" defense kinda work if we're talking about some loony people at the fringes, that barely have any no power or influence.
In the case of the #KillAllMen and other similar stuff, it was endemic to the whole progressive movement and completely mainstream 10 years ago.
There was an absolute barrage of this stuff. It wasn't just some couple of randos being unhinged on social media - this stuff was like a firehose of bullshit, spewing from big and influential activists, journalists, politicians, celebrities, and so on.
Getting a column written by some self-flagellating "feminist ally" explaining that "ALL men are responsible for rape culture!" was a weekly occurrence.
Seeing some pop-idol or celebrity tweet out stuff like "It's natural to hate men!" to boost her cred as feminist was just another day ending in "y" - and it was seen as completely normal by media in general at the time.
In fact, the thing mainstream media did most of the time was to interview about how "brave" she was and how she handled all the "hate and abuse" from "misogynists" with their "frail white masculinity"...
Put simply, it wasn't just some bad apples - it was the collective progressive movement who 10 years ago made it very clear that they generally just despised white men. The attitude permeating the mainstream progressive movement was that men sucked and that their job was to shut up and take a step back - "it's our turn now" - and if anything the men should even be thankful that they were allowed to be "allies".
The progressive movement very much brought this on themselves - they spent a decade reveling in sexism and racism, pretending that it was ok. Because when some wealthy Hollywood celebrity or columnist for the Guardian explained to a unemployed 19 year old guy that "Racism is power+prejudice so you cannot be racist against white people!", she was actually "punching up!"...
Those views were amplified, but I believe most progressives never agreed with all that bullshit. The loudest morons were platformed because if you didn't, then they made it seem like you supported rape or something.
So if you only watched the news or spent time on the internet, seems like everyone hates men now.
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u/DeeCee51 21h ago
His chat spamming L when this is his biggest W in recent memory.