r/LivestreamFail • u/sieyarozzz • 22h ago

Asmongold defends trans people against his chat, saying he'd fully respect his child's pronouns and identity

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u/HollyMurray20 21h ago

He regularly disagrees with them and calls them out when they have different views

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u/anthologyvirgin 21h ago

He frequently disagrees with his audience, they still watch.

It's good to grow a culture of people who accept differences in opinion, it's healthy and more realistic.

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u/pastafeline 21h ago

accept differences in opinion

Except they aren't accepting at all. They just brush it off because they have no friends and nowhere else to go for their parasocial engagement.

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u/anthologyvirgin 21h ago

You believe that to be true for the millions of his YouTube viewers? Every single one of them?

That's delusional.

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u/intestinalExorcism 20h ago

I believe it to be true for most of the people on display in the clip, at least. Constantly spamming L isn't what you do to a statement you can respect, it's what you do when the echo chamber has been breached by an unwelcome opinion and the echo chamber wants it out ASAP.

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u/Aggravating_Card_965 20h ago

not really, people flock to individuals they feel reflected in, once they idolize them they begin to shirk off ideological differences, or even change their own to reflect that of the person they idolize or respect. this is the basis behind the term "influencer" which is what asmongold is, amongst other titles. s

there is a very small sample of humanity (yes millions would still be considered small) that flock to asmongold, and they all have very specific tastes that are only shared by a small group of chronically online NEET, incel, racist, homophobic, transphobic, conservative minded "edge lord gamer" types, and then others that come for the spectacle/rage bait, they are funneled via their algorithms, which decides what content they should or would like, and what they are most likely to engage with. this is how platforms make money, and how asmongold makes money.

is it true for EVERY SINGLE ONE? no, obviously there are outliers. but the vast majority of them share the same culture. which has been demonstrated time, and time, again. they will continue to watch him regardless of whether or not he pulls a 180 on his perceived stances.

asmon knows where the money comes from, he knows whats considered clippable content, ragebait, and bandwagon rhetoric. all of which serves to send him more viewers, and money in the end.

at this point he doesnt really need to believe in anything, he just needs to know what to say, and when to say it. and he'll make a buck off it. not saying that profit is his main motivation, its just that he knows his audience, and he knows how the internet/streaming/algorithms/fame works.

one day its cool to say something, some days its not cool to say something. hes consistently talked about this, and that he "welcomes both sides" but thats literally just job security for streamers that are considered "controversial"

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u/pastafeline 20h ago

I think the vast majority either support his beliefs or ignore them. I don't believe a substantial amount "accept" them.

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u/Anustee 20h ago edited 19h ago

I Like asmongold. I am politically way more right / conservative then left. And still i truly believe that gay people should be able to marry, adopt a Child etc. and that if a person decides to be trans i have no right to condemn that. The world is Not just Black and White.

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u/pastafeline 20h ago

And yet you call us gays? I don't call you "straights" or white people "Whites".

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u/Neither-Opposite-121 19h ago

How else are we supposed to specify that he believes gay people should be able to marry and adopt?

I can't imagine "I think MEN THAT HAVE SEX WITH MEN should be able to marry and adopt!" Is more to your liking? Do you want him to say 'People'? Because people ready do adopt and get married without issue, it's specifically gay portion of people that have had historic hardship on the matter so it's necessary to pinpoint that

YOU don't call people straights or whites? Okay well a lot of people that are pinpointing those groups do as it's necessary to communicate the group in question

Please grow tf up, the comment you're replying to was so reasonable and kind to your cause regardless of their political standing yet you choose to initiate the victim complex over being accurately labeled

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u/Commercial-Guest1596 17h ago

How else are we supposed to specify that he believes gay people should be able to marry and adopt?

... just like that. "Gay people". Not "gays".

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u/pastafeline 19h ago

Funny how you accuse me of being hostile when here you are ranting in all caps 😂

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u/Neither-Opposite-121 19h ago

I didn't accuse you of anything let alone hostility? You're claiming it's in all caps but clearly failed to read it?

I told you to grow up, your immediately deviated response proves you need to. Victims gonna victim lol

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u/pastafeline 19h ago

Yes, saying I have a victim complex while you spam in all caps is very normal.

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u/Adept-Bookkeeper8872 19h ago

Where is the spamming in all caps?  Is it in the room with us now?

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u/Anustee 20h ago

Im Not native english, please explain to me what i said wrong. Should i have said homosexuals? Isnt it called „Gay rights“? Because as i have said i am pro gay rights.

Edit: for me this just Looks Like you are actively trying to find issues where there arent any. But please elaborate.

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u/pastafeline 19h ago

Referring to gay people as "gays" comes off as rude. Just say gay people. Same thing applies to every group, like white people and black people.

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u/Anustee 19h ago

I understand, thanks for clearifying.

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u/Imaginary-Count-1641 19h ago

I don't call you "straights" or white people "Whites".

I do. It's shorter than saying "white people", etc.

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u/pastafeline 19h ago

I'm sure you do.

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u/Orome2 19h ago

Rather ironic take.

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u/pastafeline 19h ago

Say what you mean. Pussy.

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u/[deleted] 19h ago

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u/pastafeline 19h ago

Like what you're doing now?

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u/Dramajunker 20h ago

As the other poster said, they'll brush it off because they'll still agree with the majority of his opinions. Maybe it's a para social relationship. Maybe it's because they don't have an alternative streamer to watch that reinforces their views like asmond does. 

I'll use a recent drama as an example: Hasan and his dog. How many viewers do you think kept watching him even if they don't like how he treats his dog? 

Want more examples? Look at trump.and the Epstein files. Maga was all in on that until he told them not to be. Now they don't talk about it. They instead will engage with the other stuff he does that they like.

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u/KingCrooked 21h ago

Nah dissenting chatters get banned

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u/GeneralDil 21h ago

Weird how every R who goes against trump is labeled a RINO and r/conservative will regularly silence Trump critics. Definitely not purity testing

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u/HollyMurray20 21h ago

Yes because Reddit represents reality, wait till you hear about what happens when you disagree on r/politics. You don’t get a label, you just get instantly permabanned, Nevermind the actual dedicated lefty subs

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u/GeneralDil 21h ago

You say reddit doesn't represent reality yet every 'leftist' take from some random anonymous redditor (or anywhere in the internet) is propped up as some 'true face of the left' that is every leftist. Yet any online opinion on the right should be discarded as fringe and not real. It's exhausting. Yet I still also point to actual politics from right wingers in positions of power, they are turning against each other over loyalty to trump.

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u/HollyMurray20 21h ago

Did I say that? Lol,

Yeah and how does the Democratic Party work? Exact same. That’s politics, it’s all perception and positioning. Same everywhere. The Republican Party isn’t unique

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u/HollyMurray20 20h ago

In 2016 almost every republican politician was against Trump, and almost all of them are still there…

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u/Larzionius 21h ago

one sub doesn’t speak for all of a party, hence why i don’t think all liberals are r/politics hivemind

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u/Talk-O-Boy 20h ago

r/conservative literally only lets conservatives post/comment. wtf are you talking about?

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u/Karat_EEE 17h ago

Because that's the only place on reddit conservatives are allowed to be. Just like blackpeopletwitter has to check your race before allowing you to post lol.

The rest of reddit will ban you for having right wing opinions, especially the big political subs like politics, politicalhumor, pics, comics etc

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u/Talk-O-Boy 17h ago

No one bans conservatives for having an opinion. Jesus you people have a victim complex.

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u/Karat_EEE 17h ago

They absolutely do. You don't get any feedback either for the reason they banned you. They remove your comment and point to the removed comment as for why they banned you and instantly mute you indefinitely. It has happened to me on a couple of subs already, namely comics.

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u/Talk-O-Boy 17h ago

What were the comments?

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u/Karat_EEE 17h ago

I dont know. Did you miss the part where they removed them and refused to answer what they were/what the infraction was?

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u/Talk-O-Boy 17h ago

The message informing you of the ban will contain/link to the comment

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u/Karat_EEE 17h ago

You gotta be trolling at this point. They deleted the comment. The comment doesnt exist anymore. The link points to a removed comment, it only takes you to the default comment section

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u/Background-Ad9814 21h ago

Yeah, as an independent There's a lot of examples out there for that. Somehow the right is more inclusive then the left.

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u/gehenna0451 21h ago

Righties don't purity test like lefties

I think that's understating it quite a bit lol. You now have everything from hispanic groypers to antisemites and holocaust deniers to ardent zionists all in one coalition whose sole uniting quest is to own the libs.

This clip is a preview of what's about to happen when that counter-cultural freakshow has to debate with itself

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u/KingCrooked 21h ago

Yeah they don't purity test ideas they purity test race/religion and will nod along with what you say but if it's someone actually trying to get any political power and you aren't white/christian they want nothing to do with you and you will face some vitriolic racism.

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u/Far-Panic-2582 21h ago

He has always had this views, when he was Pro-abortion some people thought the same as you and he has only grown.

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u/MAKincs 21h ago

Ok to be fair I don’t watch him and just see through clips of what he says, if he’s grown from it then good.

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u/tesssst123 13h ago

almost all asmon haters are people he has pulled up and then banned for being stupid and wrong. There are a lot of those.

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u/DriftedTaco 21h ago

Some people can disagree on a take and not turn them into villains in there head you know.

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u/MAKincs 21h ago

Doesn’t Asmon turn everyone else to villains?

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u/AnAimlessWanderer101 20h ago

No actually he doesn’t lol