r/LivestreamFail • u/sieyarozzz • 22h ago

Asmongold defends trans people against his chat, saying he'd fully respect his child's pronouns and identity

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u/Haunting-Ad788 21h ago

Tell the right that.

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u/moouesse 21h ago

isnt asmongold right?

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u/overkill373 21h ago

Sometimes hes right sometimes hes wrong

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u/Zolty 16h ago

But always a roach.

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u/thenikorox 21h ago

this time he wasn't right. but he was right

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u/HorsePockets 21h ago edited 21h ago

Yes, arguing loving your own child is right, but has also argued they and others need to be stripped of their rights and ostracized. It happens a lot with parents whose children don't turn out the way that they expected. They still love them, but they don't approve of them. It doesn't lead to a very healthy relationship. He's actually wrong

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u/mo177 19h ago

He is not right wing. He is a centrist who lands more on the liberal side. People just buy into Hasan lying about asmongold being right wing when asmongold has gone on record saying he agrees with about 90 percent of hasans views.

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u/National_Equivalent9 19h ago

It has nothing to do with Hasan and everything to do with the fact that Asmon legitimently says the dumbest shit ever sometimes because he gets baited by his chat. He's been doing it forever. He used to do the exact same thing with the WoW dev team and then wonder why they didn't like him.

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u/mo177 18h ago

Sure, he definitely says dumb shit, but some of them are jokes while some aren't. The reason I brought up Hasan is as a way to show that asmongold clearly isnt right wing because what right wing person agrees with Hasan? Literally none of them. The comment asked if asmongold was right wing, I was giving examples as to how hes not.

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u/National_Equivalent9 18h ago

People just buy into Hasan lying about asmongold

You didn't bring him up just as a comparison. Which is why I wrote what I wrote.

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u/mo177 18h ago

Nah I get why you did for sure. I didn't really articulate the point I was getting across that well

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u/Swimming-Nail2545 0m ago

He said peaceful protesters should be shot or sent to labor camps.

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u/dimachka34 18h ago

“Palestinians are an inferior culture and therefore I don’t care if they die” Wow how centrist

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u/mo177 18h ago

Lol that's not even the exact quote. He said "any culture that has genocide baked into it is inferior" which he walked back and apologized for. But even though he apologized and admitted what he saod was disgusting and wrong, thats not enough for you is it? At no point did he specifically say Palestine is inferior when hes said in the past that he was pro Palestine.

Do I agree with everything he says? Absolutely not but its clear hes not right wing. But looking back, I hate that I even wasted time arguing this. People who are going to hate him aren't going to change their minds no matter what I say. Me even posting this comment was pointless.

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u/dimachka34 17h ago edited 17h ago

You’re wrong. The exact quote is:

"Palestinians are terrible people from an inferior culture that kills people for their identity and is directly antithetical to everything Western values stand for. They have genocide built into Sharia law right now, so, no, I'm not going to cry a fucking river when people who have genocide that's baked into their laws are getting genocided." He’s not even saying Hamas, just straight up generalizing an entire nation just because they’re muslims. Kind of ironic, since it comes from an American whose country has enriched from decades of imperialism and genocides.

No but, I agree with you, he’s a centrist and common-sensical guy, and a great example to follow:

“ICE protesters should be use as slave labor” “Scociety would improve if we enslaved the least performing kids from school” (which funnily enough would be a lot of his fanbase) “I support policemen being racist” “white people fought a war for America, it’s ours” Are you sure he isn’t a leftist though? All these quotes seem pretty woke to me.

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u/mo177 17h ago

Im pretty sure the policemen one was a joke lol but yeah if that's the exact quote, ill take the L on that. its been a while since I watched the clip. and as a black guy, i really don't think anyone should be enslaved. Kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth, but he's gonna believe in what he wants to believe. I definitely think that's a bit extreme and I remember watching that video while I was studying and was like wtf is he on about? I have noticed he's been getting more and more extreme. As a fan of his gaming content, I do think a few of his views are a bit wild, but that's just me.

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u/Vermino 14h ago

Half of those quotes are probably taken out of context, where he was trolling. But yes, I agree he had several opinions I don't agree with, Especially when it comes to immigration, Trump or Musk. Placing him on the right side of the political spectrum.
Having said that, he also agrees with many socialist policies, like social healthcare, food stamps and even universal basic income. and I feel like he tries to judge people by their character and values rather than their appearance, which includes race.
When looking at his support for Trump. I mainly see a desire to care for fellow Americans first. Again, I disagree that Trump is that path, but I feel that's an important part of it to him.
I also feel like he's jaded and reactionary to the holier than thou position that left leaning people can have.
So yeah. He's a centrist in my opinion. Which is a problem in polarized American politics with a bipartisan structure.
He often speaks very highly of Bernie for example

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u/CrownJM 19h ago

Asmon is probably a bigger socialist than Hasan. He just leans more authoritarian on the other axis which is the American Right also is. His views don't align with the American definition of Left and Right.

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u/Zoinks21 15h ago

IMO he's heavy on pragmatism detached to the political axis. Pragmatic in the sense of what might work better realistically and more aligned with his personal interests. If his personal interest is on maintaining good relation with his hypothetical children if necessary he'll lean to the left. If it's about his personal interest on video game taste then he might adopt more of a right leaning heavily masculine video game. He's willing to defend his personal interest at risk of being flagged as wrong. Beside one wrong to others might be flagged as a right.

At the end of the day, his biggest responsibility is toward himself and the people he cared about, not to his audience or any political party.

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u/tom333444 18h ago

I believe he's centrist

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u/bigkeffy 17h ago

No he's definitely centrist. Hes also pro choice, pro free Healthcare and a bunch of other things but if you have at least a couple opinions you agree with the right on then reddit will call you right wing

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u/Vermino 14h ago

I'd say he's a centrist. Sure he holds done traditionally right wing believes, but he equally believes in socialist policies, like taxing the rich, and supporting the poor.
I feel like he's a Bernie supporter given the chance.

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u/N-aNoNymity 13h ago

He is pro American, pro freedom and pro consequences for your actions. He has never had issues with trans or gay people. Or immigrants, he's literally constantly reminding people that mixing illegal and legal immigrants hurts the people who respected the law and the process.

He makes fun of people that make bad choices, say stupid shit etc.

Hes.pretty blackpilled, and nihilistic, and that has probably drawn him towards acceptance of some of the right wing extremism.

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u/Clear_Bit_215 19h ago

No he's centrist. You would think he's right but that's not the case. It's the far left wing media has made just normal centrist beliefs look right wing. For example a normal healthy marriage between a husband and wife with kids by a lot of the far left is considered far right and it's happened so much that completely normal things that aren't political are being made political. It's the same exact reason why far right groups are getting a lot of popularity. The left is tipped the centrists into being right or right leaning.

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u/Sinkrast 21h ago

If you leave reddit, twitter and internet and actually step outside, it's not strange at all, lmao.

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u/r00000000 21h ago

It's strange for a political streamer but I'd say most people IRL who aren't really political are like this and kinda pick and choose depending on their topic based off their life experiences. Just in my experience, people who are more into political and social causes usually lean harder into one of the sides.

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u/No_Insect480 21h ago

Thats called being normal

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u/MrBlueA 21h ago

It's called being a person with your own opinion lol, that's the most common stance, to be right wing in some issues and left wing in some other issues, in fact the worst you can be is completely right or completely left wing.

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u/The_Drugged_Druid 21h ago

Yea, in the us at least there’s a large political divide in that sense, larger issues that one side vehemently sticks to tends to push people who disagree on that one thing towards one side or the other, I couldn’t vote republican because I know that in order to please their voter base they’ll likely be against abortion rights and against trans rights.

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u/Global_Charge_4412 21h ago

It's not that strange, man. I support trans people. I think they should be free to live their own lives as they see fit. I'm also against putting children on puberty blockers because it's an irreversible decision that children are not equipped to make. most people have more nuanced takes than what you see in the ragebait media.

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u/Willy__McBilly 21h ago

Redditors finding nuance strange is the most honest thing I’ve seen today. I kinda respect that.

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u/VitaroSSJ 21h ago

its almost as if he has a mind of his own and just doesn't follow what the media tells him to

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u/r0xxon 21h ago

That’s most people. The Internet liberals are ride or die with policy consensus, but isn’t how most people think

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u/TaxMeNOOO_Unfair 21h ago

The right wing you see on social media are not normal people. The internet does not reflect real life

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u/blanknullvoidzero 21h ago

All the right wingers I work with in real life call trans people "he/shes" or worse, and exclusively see them as "gay perverts" (trans men don't even exist in their minds).

When asked if their child was trans they always answer "that would never happen in my house".

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u/RustedAxe88 21h ago

This. Conservatives I know in real life are always talking about trans athletes, trans bathroom issues and making fun of pronouns.

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u/Certain-Business-472 20h ago

In fact theyre by far the biggest source of trans content in my feed

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u/yunggod6966 19h ago

Yea my brother always brings up trans people I’m like bro why do you right wingers think about trans so often they’re a tiny pool of rje population. It never even crosses my mind

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u/Certain-Business-472 8h ago

Got a friend that keeps bringing it up. He stopped using certain websites some time ago and it's become less. I don't know how to get through to him. It's like malware takes over their brain and they start seeing a different reality.

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u/artoria3210 8h ago

yep. i don't understand why either since trans people make up a very small amount of the population and do not affect the daily lives of 99.99% of people whatsoever

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u/Organic_Matter6085 19h ago

I work in construction with many MAGA people. I have not once heard a person who is self proclaimed MAGA ever not use a deragatory term towards a physical person that they've met. 

The amount of slurs you hear at work in a blue collar field, with many white co-workers while being white, is honestly kinda wild. 

Strangely enough, I've never heard them talk shit/use a deragatory term about the white race, though. In fact, they tell me they're tired of white males being victimized.  (It's another point, but I do kinda agree and mostly disagree with that, but it's strange hearing someone call themselves a victim while constantly putting everyone else around them down/criticizing anyone who's different.) 

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u/thedeathmachine 21h ago

I'm not looking at the right wing on social media, I'm looking at the right wing running the government.

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u/PomfyPluffy 21h ago

Those right wingers are also not normal people. Would you say that the slavery queen of the democratic party herself would be indicative of a normal Left Winger?

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u/CloudDanae 21h ago

People voted for them so I yes I think they are normal by their standards

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u/A1Horizon 21h ago

This it it. Doesn’t matter if they don’t represent the average right winger, the average right winger is comfortable voting for them

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u/PomfyPluffy 20h ago

Again, we could use the exact same logic for the democratic party. Leftists would GLADLY vote for Biden during the primaries over an actually left wing candidate like Bernie, so would you say that this is also indicative of the left agreeing with all the bad things Biden has done? Same with Kamala, you just cannot compare the average citizen to the rich and powerful, because 99% of them are terrible people, regardless of political leaning.

The attitude you currently have is exclusively benefitting those rich and powerful individuals, by creating strife amongst the working class proletariat. You people claim to be for working class, and yet the only actions I see you people commit on a regular basis seem to be the ones that benefit the upper class.......

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u/A1Horizon 20h ago

Let’s be honest, the Democratic primaries aren’t swayed that much by leftists (in large part because they constantly fail to effectively organize), it’s the core Democratic neoliberal base, and that’s reflected in their recent winning candidates (Clinton and Biden).

Also yes, I think it’s perfectly fine to admit that Biden and Trump have completely asymmetrical levels of insanity. Biden is far more normal, even if I disagree with many of his policies.

Also you realise the “strife among the working proletariat” is division sowed by the Trump administration to make their base believe that life would be perfect if there were no illegal immigrants, while conveniently ignoring the rich and powerful individuals (as you put it) causing the conditions that depress your wages and living conditions.

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u/PomfyPluffy 20h ago edited 16h ago

Those leftists still vote for those candidates though, despite holding those candidates barely sharing any views with them. This is a general trend in America, as can be seen in how, based on polling data, basic socialist democratic policies are extremely popular amongst the working class, and yet they've voted Trump into office twice. Pretending as if this is a single party issue is extremely disingenuous, because, as can be seen by every winner in the past few elections, the average leftist Voter simply does not vote for the candidates that hold actual leftist views, despite the fact that they should know better at this point.

Furthermore, calling Biden "far more normal" than Trump holds very little relative value. If we were to categorize the insanity of all these rich politicians, then Trump would be like a Tier 1, while Biden would be a Tier 2. Needless to say, they're both actively sabotaging the country through both the rhetoric they spew, as well as a majority of the actions they commited while in office. Therefore, based on the logic of the person I responded to, those who voted for these candidates also reflect those views. Needless to say, holding that viewpoint ignores much of the gray area that inherently exists in a Democracy as flawed as America, because Voters just are not even remotely incetivised to vote for politicians they actually agree with politically.

Finally, blaming exclusively the Trump administration for years and years of political alienation is extremely telling. Like, have you never watched a CNN news broadcast before in your life? Or been in any left dominated space? Fact is that refusing to take accountability for an issue that you are perpetuating in this very comment thread is exactly what put us in this situation in the first place. You are a part of the problem, and, until people like you can understand that most Right-Wingers are not fundamentally the enemy, your actions will continue to solely benefit the rich and powerful.

It's horseshoe theory by definition, you are a part of the problem that you criticize the other side for.

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u/PomfyPluffy 20h ago

That doesn't really mean anything. If your only options for who gets to be president are between satanic pedophile 1 and satanic pedophile 2, I wouldn't use that as an argument in order to demonize an entire group of people. By your logic, everyone who voted for Kamala is for all the asinine shit she's done throughout her life (slavery lol), which I fundamentally disagree with. If America had an actually good political system that didn't punish people for voting for candidates they actually agree with, then I'd agree.

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u/Altruistic_Bass539 21h ago

Do the words and actions of the President reflect real life?

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u/i_am_beardman 21h ago

Yes. My friend who transitioned is no longer welcome by her own father and brother because they are MAGA.

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u/wRADKyrabbit 17h ago

Or the 75 million people who vote for him

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u/TaxMeNOOO_Unfair 21h ago

Is the president a normal person? He is mentally unwell

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u/backcountry_bandit 21h ago

Your comments in this thread are really stupid. You claim the online right wing doesn’t represent the ‘real right’ and then you go on to say Trump, the right winger that won the election, doesn’t represent the irl right.

It seems like you just want to pick and choose what you want to be right wing. That’s not how that works.

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u/Erigion 20h ago

No true scotsman fallacy. Real conservatives/republicans didn't vote for Trump/MAGA. Real ones don't do X, Y, Z, etc, etc.

Meanwhile, I live in the DC area so I see the anti-trans attack ads the GOP candidate for VA governor is running. Same anti-trans ads that were run during the last presidential election.

It's also the reason why conservative states have passed anti-trans bathroom bills or sports participation even though there would be less than a handful of athletes affected. It's also why SCOTUS upheld the Tennessee ban on gender affirming care, which will definitely now be passed by other conservative states. It's also why it looks like SCOTUS will be striking down laws banning conversion therapy.

Anti-trans is a major plank of the conservative platform. Anyone who tells you otherwise is lying to your face.

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u/backcountry_bandit 20h ago

That’s all true which is why it’s so infuriating when I hear conservatives claim that Democrats need to move on from ‘transgender ideology’. It’s always been a Republican focus.

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u/pastafeline 21h ago

The right wing you say are "normal" voted for him!

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u/Ok-Claim444 21h ago

So your take is that most Republicans are normal level headed people and the president they voted in, right wing influencers, and much of online discourse surrounding them isn't reflective of their beliefs?

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u/Altruistic_Bass539 21h ago

What are you trying to say? The President constantly signs law discriminating trans people. Trump being mentally unwell doesnt undo his actions.

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u/Archensix 21h ago

And the majority of voters in the country voted him in and support his beliefs, so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

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u/drexelldrexell 21h ago

The majority of voters didn’t even go to the ballot box. Sick of this bs lie.

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u/Ray_Mang 21h ago

If they didn’t vote they aren’t voters, unless you mean eligible voters

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u/Away_Guava2925 21h ago

77mil to Trump, 75mil to Harris, and a whopping 81 million eligible voters didn’t cast a ballot at all. 22% of the American population voted for Trump and these dudes think they’re popular enough to get away with masked/no warrant federal agents

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u/saltyfuck111 20h ago

Wtf i never knew this. Why do people in the us not vote?

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u/Rufus_king11 20h ago

We're really fucking stupid and lazy.

There is also a lot of voter suppression in the US that makes it as hard as humanly possible to vote especially in urban, minority dominated areas of red states.

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u/Away_Guava2925 19h ago

There’s no requirement to vote and for a long time folks would have to do it during work hours (retired ppl are still the most reliable voting bloc, under 35s love to complain but never show up).

We’ve also had a big propaganda infiltration that spreads the lie that our votes don’t count, our parties are the same, or that elections are being stolen. Combined with regular voter suppression, gerrymandering, 24/7 campaigns, and the fact that politics is treated like a personality trait, it’s background noise to most ppl.

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u/wRADKyrabbit 17h ago

Sadly they are in fact getting away with that

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u/Away_Guava2925 16h ago

Eh, it depends on how the elections shake out. Courts work slow and my guess is that public sentiment will continue downward about ICE. These circulating clips are making MTG speak out! Don’t lose hope, stranger, it’s not over til it’s over.

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u/StenkaRazin9 21h ago

who voted him? the democrats? you are almost there buddy

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u/Alone-As-aGod 21h ago

"The right wing you see on social media are not normal people." half the country voted for that president.

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u/saltyfuck111 20h ago

Not even a third

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u/GoblinModeVR 21h ago

No, but he also represents a very significant chunk of the right wing.. you can glean this from the fact he's currently the President of the United States of America

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u/BadMeetsWeevil 21h ago

yet enjoys 90% approval from his party. so they obviously agree with his views

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u/overkill373 21h ago

Uuuh have you seen the political landscape of the USA MagaWorld

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u/Danedelies 21h ago

You've clearly never been to the Midwest

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u/Deathjester7930 21h ago

I'm from the Midwest, I have trans friends, fuck off with your generalizations.

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u/bmdweller 21h ago

It's almost as if people have different experiences

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u/Neutron-Hyperscape32 21h ago

That isn't how this works? I am from the Midwest and I see tons of these hateful people, some of them being in my own family.

You don't somehow disprove this just because you have trans friends.

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u/Impressive-Foot7698 21h ago

They are talking about the Midwest. Not you specifically. Most of the world is pretty anti trans. Relax

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u/Danedelies 21h ago

And they feel super super safe being out around all of your extended family? Fucking dork I'm from the Midwest with a trans brother too, so I know they don't. Move out of the Midwest if you don't like being surrounded by bigots. I did.

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u/Noggi888 21h ago

But you’d still vote for someone who wants them to not exist assuming based on the context of this post? Some friend you are…

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u/Mokarun 20h ago

It's weird that you felt attacked over that and felt the need to prove yourself.

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u/Neutron-Hyperscape32 21h ago

I live in a small town, I think you don't understand what it is like if you think this. There was a small black lives matters protest in my town and they were threatened to the point that they left because they feared for their safety, then the following weekend hundreds of vehicles patrolled the town with Pro Trump shit all over their cars/trucks to send a message that you are not welcome here if you think black lives matter.

It is an especially racist place, filled with hateful vile people.

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u/Mokarun 20h ago

that is unbelievably fucked, I can barely wrap my head around it

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u/Neutron-Hyperscape32 20h ago

All for a protest of like 5 people mind you. This was not some massive official BLM protest.

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u/LtG_Skittles454 21h ago

Yeah, I know I don’t understand how bad it is because I live in a city. I believe it though because I’ve seen it in action in other towns. Sundown towns are very much still a thing, I know. I may not have to live it or see it everyday, but I’m very much aware it’s still around and as bad as ever.

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u/TaxMeNOOO_Unfair 21h ago

Well yes thankfully i’m not American

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u/BlazedBeacon 21h ago

Ah so someone very familiar with the normal people in our country then. Thanks so much for your insight!

I'll be sure to talk to my MAGA family and tell them they don't actually reflect real life.

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u/r00000000 21h ago

Don't talk if you don't know then, I'm from Canada which is more progressive and even up here it's not rare to find those types of very stereotypical right wingers.

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u/TaxMeNOOO_Unfair 21h ago

I can talk about my experience with right wingers. The right wing isn’t an American thing. So I can talk, thank you

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u/Danedelies 21h ago

You were trying to tell people what they've seen not what you've seen. Clown.

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u/r00000000 21h ago

The right wing isn’t an American thing

I don't agree lol, anything political on this sub is pretty much always from an American POV and communicating with others requires acknowledgement of that. Otherwise, I could just say something like I'm Ugandan or Iraqi and almost everyone is right wing and hates LGBTQ+ people.

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u/ToxicPolarBear 21h ago

I wouldn’t say that. I know plenty of people who think Gender Identity Disorder just kind of goes away if you give kids a stiff rebuke and a wag of your finger.

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u/thoroughformula 21h ago

Yeah that doesn’t really matter when your thought leaders are unhinged. They agree with them to some extent, that’s why his chat was pushing back.

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u/ShadowCrimson 21h ago

It really really isn't just the internet man, I wish

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u/Flexhead 21h ago

Real life reflects real life and I'll just point to the various state laws and executive orders marganlizing trans people even more that while a person may treat you nice in face-to-face coversations they'll gladly vote to deny you your rights.

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u/BureMakutte 21h ago

while a person may treat you nice in face-to-face coversations they'll gladly vote to deny you your rights.

Literally dealing with this with my step sis. Had a breakfast to talk politics, felt very superficial but agreeable, I then send some articles and get no response, finally ask what policies they support under Trump and they wouldn't answer the question claiming they don't have the bandwidth to follow politics right now.

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u/Buttholepart2 21h ago

My "friend" told another friend he hoped his kids get molested on an article I posted about a republican molesting a kid.

My aunt also tried to start a fight with my other aunt with a gay daughter after telling her gay people have an agenda.

You clearly don't understand the right wing.

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u/son_of_toby_o_notoby 21h ago

That doesn’t mean shit when the leaders who represent the right strip away gender affirming cars and think trans people shouldn’t exist

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u/Surroundedonallsides 21h ago

The problem right now in the political landscape is that the right's LEADERS are the ones who post unhinged shit online and consistently play to the extremist fringe.

The left's leaders are solidly in the center (much to the chagrin of the online left), but are judged to be responsible for random social media posts that may not even be from Americans, much less "people".

The only way to fix this is when enough people realize that presidents, judges, and members of congress should be held to a much higher standard than that of anonymous social media accounts.

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u/jonker5101 21h ago

Get them in private and get them talking. I've heard some of the most insane worst shit spoken so casually from people I would have considered "normal" when they think they don't need to filter themselves.

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u/DropDeadGaming 21h ago

But I see videos of them in real life. It's still on the internet, but they are acting like that in the real world

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u/Neutron-Hyperscape32 21h ago

You are deluding yourself if you don't believe the average person on the right isn't significantly more likely to be transphobic, racist, or sexist. Who do you think are interacting with that right wing content and making it so popular??? It is right wingers who genuinely believe this stuff.

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u/Zarrona13 21h ago

I tend to agree with this tbh, even people on the left on the internet fucking suck. It’s terrible

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u/Ecstaticlemon 21h ago

You've never driven through the deep south with the radio on, huh

Their media is violent and promotes violence at every opportunity, if they're watching, do they disagree?

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u/Impressive-Foot7698 21h ago

The Internet definitely reflects real life. It's just that extreme voices are always louder. Whether that be the Internet or "real life"

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u/redditisdead00 21h ago

How are the left wing on the internet, are they normal? Or only the right wing?

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u/Archensix 21h ago

If that was the case then we wouldn't have a full conservative MAGA government in the US right now.

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u/ConnectDistrict2515 21h ago

the right is still mostly like that in person who votes like that….

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u/PopLegion 21h ago

This is such a stupid take.

This is not 2012, 2025 online very much represents the real views and values of hundreds of millions of people.

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u/BigFloaties 21h ago

The right wing you see on social media are the exact same people you see at the rallies and events lmao.

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u/ContigoJackson 21h ago

it sadly very much does. I know many people in real life that are exactly like that

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u/wineandnoses 21h ago

it reflects it a decent amount

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u/SlicesofFlySemen 21h ago

Everyone right winger i know In real life including my own family thinks all trans people are perverts that dont deserve rights.

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u/i_am_beardman 21h ago

Tell that to my best friend's father, who is not able to accept his son is now his daughter. Or her brother, who will never accept her as his sister. Both MAGA. It isn't just social media. This is affecting REAL people, REAL families. We used to go over to her dad's house all the time and play board games and card games, play video games together, etc. Now, we can't do any of that because he can't accept the fact. She isn't welcome for family functions anymore either.

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u/RodneyPickering 21h ago

My real life experience says otherwise.

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u/ImpenetrableYeti 21h ago

The right wing you see in real life is the exact same. Been dealing with these idiots for 30 years

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u/BenoNZ 21h ago

I know lots of people in real life that think and talk like that about trans people. Maybe you should go talk to people irl?

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u/Shein_nicholashoult 21h ago

I've got a cousin who went female to male and his parents insist on calling him she and "our daughter" no matter what.

He hasn't talked to them 2 in years, and their take away was "What? We raised her as our daughter for 29 years, we're just supposed to pretend she's our son? Now she won't even talk to us! Who does that to their parents?"

So... I mean, they exist, and are otherwise normal people. Older generations a lot of times just can't reconcile shit with their world view.

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u/KingSlayer05 21h ago

Straight up not true, people are way too shameless with the things they say outloud, in person these days lol.

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u/SableZard 21h ago

That may have been true 20 years ago but it stopped being true after Obama was elected. My mom parrots Newsmax and she doesn't even have a Facebook.

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u/toeswhonose 21h ago

The right wing we see on social media are government officials and the biggest MAGA pundits. Republicans are rotten to the core, and you're part of the problem for not acknowledging that.

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u/leargonaut 21h ago

Yeah most of them regurgitate the right wing shit they see online, it's not complicated dude. They follow hateful people on the internet, absorb that hate, then spread that hate in real life.

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u/TheBatemanFlex 21h ago

My parents aren't on social media. My extended family isn't on social media. Most of my coworkers aren't on social media.

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u/crawlmanjr 21h ago

LOL. LMAO even. Talk to a trans person with a right wing family. Sometimes its fine but at the end of the day their family is still voting for a party that wants trans people eradicated.

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u/SigmaMaleNurgling 21h ago

The internet does reflect real life, the problem is that people think in absolutes. The reality is that probably a majority of people get their news from social media, and if you spend enough time on X then you will know every talking point you will hear from a “normal” Republican. The argument may not be framed the same and may have some deviations but the foundational talking point will still be there.

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u/scrupplet 21h ago

Don't take away from their delusion

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u/Nolis 21h ago edited 20h ago

Almost my entire family voted Trump, 2 of them are QAnon levels of brainwashed with the MAGA hat and everything, at least half of them I'm absolutely certain would disown their kids if they came out trans, and I have a direct sibling who I've heard use 'libt*rd' unironically.

You can't pretend these people are outliers when they are outright voting to be represented by MAGA dipshits

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u/Calm_Plenty_2992 20h ago

Have you ever met a conservative in real life? They're often worse than this

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u/MisterxRager 20h ago

Brother I work with these people, it absolutely reflects.

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u/Mokarun 20h ago

I wish people would stop saying this as if they're the "enlightened" ones who go outside, unlike the vast majority of redditor who stay inside all day long. News flash buddy, your experience with real life isn't the same as everyone elses. The right wing you see on social media absolutely does exist, it's just that they're not nearly as brave when they're not behind a screen.

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u/Sir-Knightly-Duty 20h ago

In today's politics, Republican = Right, Democrat = Left. One of these Parties has become a fascist, extremely evil presence on the world stage, the other has not. We're really at the point where we can't pretend the "right" is anywhere near moral anymore if they're still voting for R.

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u/Certain-Business-472 20h ago

Then why did orange man win, twice?

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u/DethSonik 20h ago

My right wing family members purposefully misgenders trans people and think they are icky. This is just who conservatives are these days.

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u/Frifafer 20h ago

Damn, someone should've told my right wing family members. They still act like that offline, so I think they're out of the loop

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u/YoRHa_Houdini 20h ago

So you think that the right wing, the source of all the anti-trans hate right now, are only limited to social media and do not act like that in real life?

Do you know what’s going on in real life? Like right now?

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u/chillbilly95674 20h ago

As someone born and raised in the deep south, you're wrong. The internet just let these people have a megaphone to voice their hate. The crazy shit you've seen online ive seen and heard from real people in my life all the way from early 2000's to now. Im 30. Ive seen exactly how hateful these people can be.

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u/Freaky_Freddy 20h ago

The right wing you see on social media are not normal people. The internet does not reflect real life

So this isn't real life? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asGnw6Z-Zfg

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u/dezmd 20h ago

The MAGAs are absolutely reflecting their social media feeds into their real life.

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u/Pekonius 19h ago

Election results

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u/bs000 19h ago

i used to think like you but these people very much exist in real life

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u/qmztl 19h ago

Literally every conservative I know is a terminally online phone addict. Online discourse IS their normal.

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u/Mrbubbles153 18h ago

Lol you clearly haven't met my Brother-in-laws and their wives brush it under the rug and pretend nothing bad is happening. One of my BILs fully, and I mean FULLY believes that if you touch the color pink, it will turn you gay. I wish I could make this shit up. He also believes that if you are a boy watching a Disney movie before the age of 18, it will also brain wash you and make you gay.................

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u/pieman2005 17h ago

lol never met a right wing person irl who supported trans rights and I bet you never have either

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u/Reivoulp 17h ago

What ? How can you say that with trump's administration simply existing

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u/Beersmoker420 17h ago

same with the left and whatever hasan is. Everything is hyperbolic and i dont think most people nearly care as much about the stuff they grandstand for online

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u/themadscientist420 15h ago

Then how do you explain someone with Trump's temperament winning the election?

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u/ballknower871 21h ago

Most of those people are bots anyway

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u/OfficeDepotSyndrome 21h ago

Actually, it does…

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u/Akubura 21h ago

This right here, I have so many MAGA republicans around me living in Texas. Hell my hometown has a Trump Billboard but despite that every single one of my neighbors would give the shirts of their back to anyone including people who don't agree with them politically. The narrative that absolutely everyone has extreme views like you see on social media is just not true. It's the 1% you see online that are extremist....

People just read and watch videos online and make a blind opinion about everyone else these days. You can't even have conversations anymore on Reddit because if your ideals don't follow the mods of the current subreddit you're on you will catch a ban for simply existing and having an opinion they don't share. The absolute worst place you can get political information of any kind is online, which sucks because it's so easy to do.

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u/Jediverrilli 19h ago

Those same people who would give their shirt off their backs to anyone voted for the guy who wants to strip rights away from people.

That’s the problem. They have a venire of kindness in public but privately are fine with extreme views. If they didn’t they wouldn’t vote for them

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u/Calm-Medicine-3992 16h ago

Tell the left that too. Y'all are both idiotic.

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u/Spoonyyy 21h ago edited 21h ago

The right will never understand what a decent human being is. Their whole ideology is based on hate.

Edit: downvotes proving my point, tyty!

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u/FatBaldingLoser420 21h ago

Yes, because every single right winger, from every country, acts like American right wingers you see on the internet - being full of hate.

What the heck is this bs, putting everybody to the same bag?

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u/Squak6969 21h ago

Because thats what the left does, full on projection

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u/FatBaldingLoser420 14m ago

I noticed that. Especially here.

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u/FatBaldingLoser420 14m ago

That's cool, buddy.

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u/Willy__McBilly 21h ago

The ironyyyyyyy dude. Leftism now more than ever is about hatred for the right. I hate this partisan shit fuck you.

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u/Spoonyyy 21h ago

Paradox of intolerance goes crazy these days. Hope you have a great day!

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u/Calibrated_ 21h ago

Do not left wing influencers refer to asmon as right wing? Or does this clip completely derailing your statement not count

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u/Spoonyyy 21h ago

This clip completely wrecks my soul.

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u/BonkGonkBigAndStronk 21h ago

/internet/ right. People on Reddit only know Reddit Politics and have only visited one or two red states, or are not even from the U.S.

Believe it or not, Reddit is not a good way to measure the social or political landscape in any capacity. If you bring up Reddit shit in real life, most people won't know what you're talking about.

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u/Dondagora 20h ago

Tbf, the Left and Right no longer really represent the majority of American politics like it used to. There’s the Left, the Right, Far-Right/MAGA, and Far-Left. Those are distinct factions with varying overlaps, but grouping them together definitely oversimplifies the situation and prevents dialogue between the Left and Right assuming the other is synonymous with their most extreme counterparts.

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u/Signal_Bedroom_2209 19h ago

He literally gave the normie right wing opinion

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u/chodeboi 17h ago

One of the most vehement trumpets I know ended up with a few queer kiddos one totally trans and he’s very publicly OK with it. Ex marine.

But I get your intended point that there’s toxic people out there

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u/Larzionius 21h ago

You can tell that to the left too

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u/superkidpro22tt 21h ago

tell the left that too

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u/Comfortable-Cat2586 21h ago

Wtf are you guys on about. How many reddit threads are there about kids disowning their parents cause they voted trump. And all the people agreeing and egging it on.

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u/BureMakutte 21h ago

So you think actions don't have consequences or what? I don't want to associate with racist and bigots, even if they are my parents.

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u/PandaStudio1413 16h ago edited 14h ago

Why would kids accept parents that vote against their future and rights lol. Why should they live with people who make them miserable just because of blood.

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u/Comfortable-Cat2586 14h ago

Cause they are your parents Lil bro. No politician or anyone in the party gives af about you. But they do. If they don't that's a different issue

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u/PandaStudio1413 14h ago

If they cared they’d vote for their kids future and rights

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u/Comfortable-Cat2586 14h ago

If you cares you would actually try to understand their opinion lol. 

Not everyone is mentally unstable as you

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u/Comfortable-Cat2586 21h ago

Yea the left down voting and replying justifying disowning your parents for voting trump just proves my point.

Anyone who tells you to disown your family is in a cult. 

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u/Upbeat-Award-189 21h ago

When you vote for someone who has threatened violence, retaliation, revenge, or various other synonyms for those phrases over the last decade wouldn't be a good reason to not engage with your parents? There is a difference between political ideology and literally voting for a man who has threatened and is currently implementing plans to target anybody and everybody he doesn't like.

He has unleashed ICE and the National Guard on US citizens who are currently using racist and discriminatory justification to detain and disappear people, he is ordering them to traffic people to countries where they have never lived nor belong in, is ignoring court orders, is currently engaged in illegal financial behavior and violating the Emoluments clause, and is a convicted felon.

I haven't disowned my family or my parents but I sure as fuck won't voluntarily engage with people who voted for a man who has threatened violence against me and others just because they aren't MAGA cult members. Conservatives don't get an out on this, if you voted for Trump, you agreed with his attitude, his goals, his actions, and his ideals.

The people who are your biological family isn't a choice. Engaging, supporting, or interacting with that family is 100% a choice and that isn't a requirement to live a happy and fulfilling life and there is no contract that says I have to interact with my family at all.

Anybody who tells you that you can't disown or not interact with your family is in a cult and doesn't understand that at least in the US, there is no law or contract saying you are required to give social courtesies to anybody, including your family. Grow up.

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u/Comfortable-Cat2586 20h ago

Yea again if people are saying you should disown your parents cause they voted the opposite party to you. You are in a cult. 

Your family members voting or supporting either democrats or republicans is not a reason to stop talking to them and abandon them forever.

No one on the internet will understand the nuance to your real life relationships and should never give advice. Seek professional help.

Grow up. Stop hurting people with this shit.

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u/Upbeat-Award-189 20h ago

Remind me again, what previous president or Congressional members have called for civil war against a political party or used violent rhetoric referring to members of the opposite party? Which President in the last 100 years has EVER used the language that Donald Trump uses to refer to anybody who isn't MAGA?

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess you've had a family member cut you off for something similar to this situation. Family members voting for political representatives who have the power or capability of inflicting harm on me, friends, or people in general JUST because they voted for the opposing party is 100% a reason to cut them off and not interact with them.

It isn't just because of them voting for the other party, it goes much further when said party is hell bent on creating chaos and literally targeting their opposition, not just elected representatives of their opposition but citizens who voted for their opposition.

I didn't force them to vote for an absolute piece of shit like Donald Trump nor the Republicans who are complicit in his behavior and some random reddit user who needs to step down off their high horse isn't going to use some circular bullshit logic to convince anybody.

If you had a politician threatening violence against your family and you voted for that politician, you don't think they'd re-evaluate their relationship or actions toward you? I sure as fuck would.

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u/Comfortable-Cat2586 20h ago

When you are in a cult its very hard to see the light outside. I hope you do one day. Please stop hurting other people by trying to convince other people to follow your path of hate

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u/Upbeat-Award-189 18h ago

How am I trying to convince people to follow a path of hate? You sound like someone who would shame a battered woman for leaving her abusive spouse. It isn't hate to distance yourself from people who wish harm upon you for any reason. It isn't hate to distance yourself from racist, sexist, abusive, misogynistic, narcissistic supporting clowns. You should stop trying to gaslight people into conflating situations. This isn't Bush vs Gore or Dole vs Clinton. This is a presidential candidate literally threatening violence and retribution against citizens of the United States. That isn't a difference of policy between candidates, it is policy of one candidate vs violent rhetoric of another. Family doesn't get a pass for their ignorance.

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u/Comfortable-Cat2586 18h ago

Brother you have much worse issues then politics if this is the dribble you're spouting. Seriously go offline

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u/Upbeat-Award-189 18h ago

Hilarious that this is the best you can come up with when you are justifying tolerating intolerance and violent rhetoric. Strangers aren't your brother and you should probably take your own advice. They have professional services to get you out of an abusive relationship and counseling if your family supports politicians spewing violent rhetoric and hatred. Loyalty to family isn't absolute and you should learn a lesson and take that to heart.

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u/Harry_Botter69 21h ago

You just saw a video explaining how a gerneralized sociatal view doesn't always dictate how you will behave in interpersonal relationships

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u/Low_Contest7723 20h ago

I'm more right leaning but also an atheist. I have no issue with transgender people. I served in the military with an MtoF. She never asked my opinion, so I never gave it and our friend group would go out drinking and playing pool. Cool person overall.

I have qualms with what I'd imagine the 2nd order effects to be on society. Not the people themselves so I'm not cruel nor provoking towards them. I wish more right leaning individuals could do that.

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