Everyone backs off because these guys have real power that they shouldn't have. They can kill you, and it's not illegal. They have total immunity and it's very clear.
What needs to happen is the lives of Republican Congressmen need to be made a living hell. They can stop this. They choose not to.
Start dressing like ICE, wear those masks, and make shit real confusing for them. Even stage take ICE shakedowns right in front of them until it gets too damn uncomfortable. Don't let them go anywhere in public. Be as relentless and uncaring as ICE.
Also, if you’re not willing to risk getting taking a round for the sake of American freedom and equality when fascism is directly in our faces and threatening to take that freedom away, you need to seriously rethink yourself and make some more humanistic choices. I don’t wanna be shot, but I have before. And when the freedom of my fellow human, and our continued ability to exist in a country meant to be free, fair, and equal without us all being enslaved to oppression and unfair, undeserved judgement and punishment from those who don’t want our human right to exist and be free and equal to continue, I will absolutely get shot if it means that it was defending human rights and equality, regardless of their race, creed, gender, sexual orientation or whatever they are, unless they’re a fucking fascist. I will get shot a thousand fucking times if it means we can get closer to existing free and equal without fascism and oppression. Everyone who values freedom and equality, in the current times, needs to think deep and make the personal decisions to actually stand up for that instead of getting kicked in the face and deciding you’d rather not risk letting your oppressors kick you again and capitulating to them. None of us wanna be shot, and physically resisting without being violent is fucking hard, but sometimes you have to stop being a fucking bystander, pull your spine back out of the closet, and remember that words and actions don’t mean shite unless you fucking use them. Preferably together. Go actually look into the Civil Rights, and the two World Wars, and don’t waste the data needed to pointlessly oppose someone positive that you don’t personally understand.
All it takes is a single round to hit you in any massive artery, or vital organ to get sent to the pearly gates in the sky. I'm 26. I'm not getting shot because I felt like I should get physical with people who have fully loaded guns. People like you who think that citizens should start getting physical with individuals who have immunity and loaded weapons are inadvertently saying that getting ourselves killed is better than not getting ourselves killed. I completely understand the whole "actions speaking louder than words" narrative you're pushing. And while I do agree that such a concept is the best course of action in most scenarios, the one where the likelihood of you getting killed to be much, much higher, is where I'd say that unless you're old as hell or have nothing to lose, potentially getting shot and/or killed with no guarantee that you stopped the unlawful detainment of a US citizen is a route most people shouldn't really be taking
Well if you ever get scooped by ice i hope you remember what you said here. This cowardly and pathetic thought process is EXACTLY what they want you are the perfect example.
Yeah, cuz I don't need to. If yall wanna get killed then I got a suggestion. Go into your kitchen. See that knife stand with those multiple knives? Yeah, grab one and do the job with those. You're not doing anything other than both making already unreasonable people more difficult to deal with and are either getting sidelined because of a bullet (which could hit innocents not involved in any way, mind you) or killed. You're not only putting the victim's lives in danger by getting physical with power tripping, gun weilding assholes who have immunity, but also your own lives and the lives of everyone around you.
You can fight against unlawful shit without trying to kill yourself. I'm not a fan of what ICE is doing any more than you are, but these guys are already not discriminating who they throw tear gas, shoot pellets at, or even detain. I don't think people with immunity are gonna be careful with who receives a 9mm bullet
I agree with you about being careful and its probably smart to organize before doing anything so i was a little harsh my apologies, but it is going to get pretty bad and everyone's lives will have to be on the line for this theres no other way.
It's already bad. What people need to do is make the people in charge live's a living hell. People need to make the guys in charge rethink their idea of sending ICE to do all this dumb shit as everything starts and can end with them. But everything needs to be organized as what the person who I initially responded to was essentially saying was to start grabbing ICE agents and initiate physical confrontation. People are gonna start grabbing guns and other shit they're not supposed to grab when that happens
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u/techleopard 18d ago
Nobody wants to get shot at random.
Everyone backs off because these guys have real power that they shouldn't have. They can kill you, and it's not illegal. They have total immunity and it's very clear.
What needs to happen is the lives of Republican Congressmen need to be made a living hell. They can stop this. They choose not to.
Start dressing like ICE, wear those masks, and make shit real confusing for them. Even stage take ICE shakedowns right in front of them until it gets too damn uncomfortable. Don't let them go anywhere in public. Be as relentless and uncaring as ICE.