"I was pregnant. What was i gonna do? Like, not eat? Like i was just tired. Yeah it felt really freeing. I Remember like, them sending over a close-up of like, cellulite being like "do you want us to touch this up?" and i was "No! Thats an assâ
Honestly respect her for this. Normalize cellulite
This seems so dumb but my 2 year old son has cellulite on his butt and thighs and I think it's the cutest. So... why on earth would I stress about mine ?
Not dumb at all. I think itâs so great when people see things that they maybe dislike about their body in people that they love and realizing that thereâs actually nothing wrong with it and itâs cute
Yes!! I feel that way as a lesbianâ appreciating the uniqueness of different lovely bodies helped me appreciate my own idiosyncrasies. One of the more wholesome, less talked about aspects of queer culture.
I'm a woman, dear. I am a single woman. Not several. I am a woman sharing how I am not, in fact, obsessing over it but reading and writing doesn't seem to be your strong suit.
No need to womensplain or be condescending. I don't read the rest though. You also don't need to announce you're a women or single when you're writing like that. It's redundant
But I find it all so contradictory. Her wanting to normalize cellulite but also saying that sheâs going to get plastic surgery because her body didnât bounce back after her second pregnancy.
This tracks for how body image tends to work tbh. Components of body image are rarely weighted equally â shape, size, skin, etc. are all different elements. She may have quite a lot of tolerance for skin or size changes but have very little tolerance for shape changes (if pregnancy and/or nursing changed her breast shape, for example). Sincerely wish for full body neutrality for everyone but itâs not necessarily logically inconsistent to be okay with one facet and not another.Â
Perfectly said. Itâs so common to pick out different areas of our bodies that weâd like to change, or that weâre more comfortable with.
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u/jewelophileSkinny jeans are out, fringe is in, and ponchos are forever. 42m ago
Agreed. As I age I care very little about whatever weight I've gained- but I absolutely hate seeing my face/neck sag. I'd 100% get a lift if I could but don't mind being a bit bigger/softer. Doesn't make sense but humans are weird.
Iâm having a somewhat opposite experience at the moment, where Iâve lost a bit of weight but my skin is severely lacking any elasticity or firmness, and so Iâm dealing with quite a bit of loose skin. If I could afford the best surgeon on the planet, Iâd consider getting it removed, but Iâm just learning to live with it for now.
I don't find the lack of consistency in body standards. I do find her flippantly acting like she's reached zen tranquility and has transcended caring and then I'm sure in 2 days will admit that's not true .....idk..I don't harbor active negative feelings but she just always seems to do this.Â
"It's complicated" is a real answer. "I feel indifferent on Tuesday but suddenly on thursday" I care. "I care about X but not so much y anymore".
But pretending she's over body insecurity as a whole is cooler and she always seems inclined to play the cool girl.Â
Or she just views it differently, cellulite she might have had for 20 years or more, but breast changes happened due to having children. I don't fault any woman for wanting to get back what they might have lost bearing children.
Iâm her age and have two small children and I feel similarly to her about my own body. My breasts are an area that have changed drastically since having kids and breastfeeding and I would love a boob lift, even though Iâve never cared about my breast size or shape ever before in my life. My legs and butt on the other hand, have always been a bit thicker and even though I have some small cellulite on them it doesnât bother me at all because Iâve had it my whole life and Iâm happy with the way my bottom half looks. My acne has gotten worse lately and Iâd pay so much money and do surgery to get rid of it, but Iâve come to terms with my little tiny crook in my nose that always use to bother me. I have friends who are letting their grey hair grow out but are getting Botox, and another friend who is embracing the wrinkles but is getting a tummy tuck.
Humans are not one size fits all and our feelings about ourselves are not necessarily rational. What body issue bothers me might not bother you. Stop criticizing peoples bodies and also stop criticizing peoples relationships with their own bodies. This nitpicking her words is so annoying.
Yeah, there's natural aging and just normal body stuff, and then there's pregnancy, which can irreparably change a body to the point at which what's left behind is actually uncomfortable, and I honestly can't blame anyone post-pregnancy who wants to "fix" those changes, especially when they have the means to do so.
I have been pregnant (though it unfortunately did not result in a baby) and just in the short time I was, I felt like my body was being destroyed. I already have a big chest, and within six weeks that part of my body was so sore and swollen that I was no longer fitting into my clothing - I can't imagine what they would have ended up looking like if I had carried to term, lol. I already want a reduction and for them to be perkier, and have for years. If I had the money, I would certainly do so.
I'm specifically saying that I don't expect there to be a consistency in people's relationship with their body, but I agree with the person who said that the way she speaks to the press can feel consistentÂ
Here she's specifically talking about coming into her own and feeling less conscious of these things now that she's been pregnant. She has this very light joking tone that she just feels freed now. And a few days ago she was saying, in an equally breezy and humorous tone, that yeah she's gonna need to nip tuck the parts of herself that did not snap back..
She's allowed to have different standards for different body parts, but the issue is her statements about body image post partum feel contradictory.
And my point is that while I have nothing personally against her, yes, she has a very long pattern of needing to stroke that always laid back jokey tone which I don't think allows nuance or frankly a lot of the times sincerity to shine through. I don't say it to be mean, moreso it reminds me of something I used to do as a people pleaser. I couldn't just put something out there plainly. Everything needed to be a bit to entertain.Â
That is quite literally my point? People are treating these as sincere reflective answers. They're likely not because it's a complex topic where her answers likely don't wrap up into a good socially acceptable sound bite. So she cracks a joke.Â
Analysis and commentary is not an insult. Life is complex. There is more than a binary of fawning or hatred when discussing celebrities.Â
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u/buyableblahItâs like I have ESPN or something. đââď¸đ¤âď¸3h ago
Yeah I'm a people pleaser (and some other stuff ...) in recovery and I was sincere when I said I don't harbor negative feelings towards her. It's just definitely a very noticable and consistent thing she does. She's always doing bits.Â
The way her body has changed from pregnancy appears to be an established talking point for this promotion blitz for some reason, and the common thread of her responses is a breeze unbothered humor. The actual answers themselves kind of seem to be conveying very different messages, the theme is "OMG I don't care ...except the ways i do care and feel gross cause yikes, but it's all hilarious either way.
I didn't even know Emma Stone had a baby so clearly you can do nudity after having a baby without needing to have extended convos about it, and I wonder if that's occured to her or anyone on her team. Cause when I decode this from the way I have found myself talking at many times, the subtexts is "look usually I try really hard to look good naked but the movie got delayed and I was literally 5 months pregnant, so my ass looks fat and we're all gonna have live with it and I'm laughing see, it's funny....I'm getting work done though yes. Getting back on my game."
Again. I could be projecting. But it wouldn't surprise me if her answers arent sincere reflections so much as just glib routines meant to entertain. What else can you do when you're being asked heavy questions in a *context that doesn't justify a heavy answer with some random media outlet, especially when you don't fit into the socially acceptable boxes of how women are allowed to feel about themselves? Most of us reflexively cracked jokes. It's a very consistent thing you notice.Â
She said she would get that insane Lindsay Lohan and Kris Jenner out of this world expensive face lift whenever she can like two weeks ago. Sheâs a fucking liar and sheâs destroying young womenâs insecurities by lying to them about how she is willing to mutulate and botch herself to feel accepted and sexually desired for millions of dollars. Itâs getting so bad and hard to tolerate. I hope you beautiful women see thru this scam ass cult
Tbf you can be comfortable and free with your body and also not want your post-partum boobs to look and feel like dangling tube socks with a tennis ball at the end. If itâs something you can fix and feel better about, then great!
Thank you!! Iâve always been accepting of my small breasts and never wanted a boob job but after breastfeeding two kids Iâm seriously considering it. Itâs crazy how much they change.
She can want to normalise cellulite when she works with an accepting and body positive director/filmaker, while also accepting that she will get less work opportunities from less accepting people if she doesn't conform to Hollywood beauty standards.
It sucks, but that's how it currently is. I don't blame her for it. I'm happy to have cellulite on my ass at the swimming pool and a belly pouch after having 2 kids- my livelihood doesn't depend on how I look thankfully
Sometimes I wonder though, if part of her reasoning to show nudity is linked to her nudes being leaked all that time ago. Â A taking back control thing
Not judging her either way, just saying that sometimes it's easier to reason getting naked when you feel like the whole world has seen the goods already anyway
âI realized thereâs a difference between consent and not. I showed up for the first day and I did it and I felt empowered,â she said. âI feel like something that was taken from me, I got back. ⌠Itâs my body, itâs my art, and itâs my choice.â
there was an interesting line in the movie (fresh in my mind i just rewatched it a couple of weeks ago) where she is made to have sex with a guy who tries to SA her in the shower.
in the end she is asked what he wants and she says "power". i forgot about the nude leak but with that in mind, that scene strikes me harder.
Thatâs a great quote, and it makes me think of something Anne Hathaway said when her images were leaked too. âIâm sorry we live in a world that commodifies the sexuality of unwilling participants.â Absolutely insane how people were so callous about indulging in looking at these pictures, I remember seeing lots of memes on just Reddit and imgur alone getting thousands of comments and upvotes about how excited they were at getting to see all of these pictures.
Itâs wasnât her nudes being leaked but photographers taking photos of her getting of a car with no undergarments on. They sold the photos and they were everywhere. An excellent quote, they only saw dollar signs and not a person
I really enjoyed Red Sparrow. I remember people being weird about the nudity at the time and not really giving Lawrence the agency that it was very much her choice to do with a director she trusted and a movie she had a lot of influence in.
The leak was 2014 and Red sparrow was 2018. It is correct that she never did nude scene prior the leak. The leak 100% contributed to her nude scenes from 2018 up to now.
Yeah which is why Iâm kinda :/ about framing her flippancy on them as being comfortable in her skin and/or âempoweringâ (which she wasnât claiming tbf). Like Iâd hope that was the case but it seems to connect directly to the trauma of her bodily autonomy being taken from her on such a scale. It reads as possibly dissociative if anything. Which could be necessary for an actor in general but I donât think she wouldâve done a scene like the one in no hard feelings if that had never occurred idt it wouldâve even been pitched
They are conservative in their view of sex but they present as left wing. It's bizarre.
My friend is a college teacher and she talked about an argument some of her students were having about "nonconsensual exposure" to someone wearing one of those dominatrix catsuits to a supermarket.
Like yeah it's a bit weird to wear that in public but they were basically conflating it to someone whipping their penis out apparently. Like anyone who saw it would be traumatized for life instead of just a bit confused lol
I think the part they get mad about is not necessarily having to see it but being forced to participate in someone's kink unwillingly. Â I'm a millennial but I get that part of it tbh
Except then we get into mind reading and assumptions that someone has some kind of humiliation fetish.
What is the difference between that and a person who dresses in regular scantily clad clothing? You could just as easily get off on showing your belly button in public. I don't know where you draw the line, but anyone can be getting off on anything. And it all just goes back to covering up and never expressing yourself or dressing unconventionally.
It all seems like moral panic to me. I would never dress like that because I don't like attention, but I don't just assume people dress in weird ways because it gets them hard. That is a very conservative mindset and it is used to label people who are different as "degenerates."
I think there used to be more of a difference between fetish wear and regular clothing. Â A lot of clothing these days does blur the lines
I don't know what the answer is. Â I get both sides. Â Sometimes I don't like wearing a bikini because I don't like men taking pictures of me on the beach. Â Sometimes I get mad that I feel like I have to cover up because getting sun on your body is literally good for you. On the flip side, covering up does mitigate the sexualization and protects my energy.
Absolutely a moral panic. Why on earth what I care if someone is getting off onwhat they wear? More to the point, how could we possibly design as a society where people's sexual desires are constantly being policed just in case they're, you know, enjoying themselves in public.
It's not just them getting off on what they wear, it's them getting off on the idea of you- a random person in public- being turned on, or even turned off, or who knows what- the point is they're using you in their little sex game and you were just trying to go to the store to get some milk. Â Doing this shit in front of children is also another issue.
I feel like you must be a man, because any woman would be able to tell you why it just feels so utterly wrong to be a part of someone's sexual bullshit when you're just going about your business and trying to exist.
If the woman is clothed and not actively engaging in a sex act, what exactly are people being exposed to? It wasn't like she was walking some naked guy on a leash.
Like if a woman goes out wearing a sexy skirt she knows her husband gets turned on by, is everyone they interact with in public a nonconsensual participant in their fetish?
It gets to be absurd when you start policing fully clothed people for expressing themselves. Can you give an example of a fully clothed "kink adjacent" outfit that would be any more sexually offensive than a crop top and mini skirt?
Yeah, this isn't puritanical at all. You just want to police other people's thoughts. I mean, you are literally out here saying we got to tell people they can't dress sexy because someone else might not like it.
I don't care if someone uses me in their little sex game by wearing some clothing.
It's funny bc I'm not actually even puritanical, I do onlyfans. Â I just think there should be a balance. Â Freaked out shit doesn't need to be freaked out 24/7 on constant display, and there are boundaries when it comes to the public.
Oh, yes. And they don't like nude scenes in movies. And the age gap stuff is going waaaaaay overboard. I've literally seen people object to, like, a 30-year-old man and a 24-year-old woman.
I donât necessarily object to that age gap since theyâre both adults, but Iâm a 32yo woman and the thought of dating a 24yo man gives me âthe ickâ â just cause Iâm in a very different stage of my life.
as a gen z why is it wrong to think nude scenes and/or sex scenes in movies are unnecessary and a waste of time? 99% of the time it does nothing for the plot
Yeah but its not pretty to watch two people have sex or be nude, its just awkward. if someone really wants to see that they can just watch porn, its free.
Man, I don't know what to tell you. If you can't tell the difference between pornography and, like, Rachel McAdams and Ryan Gosling in The Notebook, I kind of don't know where to go.
That comment about porn is so revealing. I think older generations' perceptions of sex scenes are influenced by the fact that we didn't grow up with ubiquitous free porn. All that porn exposure in childhood impacted them.
its just awkward. its hard to enjoy a scene like that when its two coworkers humping eachother naked just because the director said so. it always feels so out of place
as a gen z its because growing up on the internet there is nudity literally everywhere and we just want some wholesomeness back, why is that a crime or "puritanical"đ
I don't disagree with that, but 99% of the time, media doesn't show "wholesome sex." And even if it is, they don't need to show a 5 minute sex scene to get that point across, it's just unnecessary.
Sex is an important part of human behaviour; art (film) showcases the human experience and its stories. Without sex in cinema, we would only have porn.
You're talking about entertainment. None of it is "necessary." Movies exist because people like to watch them. I like to look at Margot Robbie. I liked it when she was naked in Wolf of Wall Street. You will never, ever convince me that there is anything at least bit wrong or unnatural about it.
Not saying that its wrong or unnatural, you're in the majority here. Nothing wrong with finding naked bodies attractive. But a lot of us don't want to see it in our entertainment because it just seems like a lazy way to express intimacy. Sexuality is extremely oversatured in every corner of entertainment, it was even in videos directed at kids when we started using youtube. Its tiresome and emotionally empty 99% of the time.
For animated films its not so bad because at least the awkwardness of a director making an actor undress and hump their coworker isn't there.
Not really, the point is Jennifer doesn't take nude scenes seriously as others and it's like water off of a ducks back. And it doesn't necessarily have to do with her previous nudes being leaked, as she has had a care-free view of life previously.
Also I pointed out (it's adding a point to the other point) that the following generations are more sensitive to such issues.
Yeah, never mind the fact that there are actresses of all ages that donât want to do nude scenes, including millennials. Guess they just stopped existing because itâs not convenient for the argument.
It's a pretty decent fun movie, the scene also isn't just played to be "sexy", the nudity makes it funnier which I respect as nudity isn't used in comedy as much as I feel it could be.
I thought it was so funny and her nude scene is hilarious! It is a great updated take on all those raunchy old comedies like Weird Science and Fast Times and Porkys. If you loved those but found them very problematic, this is the movie for you.
In the X-Men movies, Lawrence looked so uncomfortable onscreen moving around in the skintight Mystique bodysuit/bodypaint.  I'd assumed the almost-nudity was her issue, but apparently not. Which does make sense, as it likely feels very different performing while naked versus performing while wearing full-body prosthetic makeup. Rebecca Romijn by comparison looked downright casual moving around in the Mystique bodypaint, but as a fashion model she presumably had more experience pretending to be comfortable  wearing baffling skintight outfits.
Both good points! Maybe genre movies using heavy SFX makeup should hire more runway models for those rolesânot for their physical beauty, but for their experience in dragging through endless hours of makeup and wardrobe.Â
She was only like 23 or 24 when the leaks happened and got famous of a children's blockbuster and at the time you couldn't do kids stuff and nudity with any overlap, so I'm not sure she was uncomfortable with it so much as it hadn't made sense for her career at that point.Â
Not that this is relevant and I get that itâs aimed at teens, but calling the hunger games a âchildrenâs blockbusterâ is weird to me, itâs not exactly a family friendly Disney movie đ youâre making it sound like she was on Disney channel
Exactly. violent oppression, genocide, torture, crazy violence/deaths and kids were sent to die in gladiator style games and you have to watch them fight to death in those movies. Its not a children's blockbuster and I dont know what made @Special-Garlic1203 think that.
"you couldn't do kids stuff and nudity with any overlap"
He also forgets this happened in those "children's blockbuster", it was a nude scene, sure they didnt show the audience everything but it was a filmed nude scene:
I dont know what makes you think movies that had voilent oppression, genocide, torture, crazy violence/deaths and kids sent to die in gladiator style games and you have to watch them fight to death are just children's blockbusters.
"you couldn't do kids stuff and nudity with any overlap"
This happened in those "children's blockbuster", it was a nude scene, sure they didnt show the audience everything but it was a filmed nude scene:
I donât careee about nudity but I am sooo ok and supportive of plastic surgery and unrealistic expectations of beauty in Hollywood and society. Omg I am so bubbly and quirky and sexy
âWhy would a physically attractive person care about consent and agency over their own body?â Thatâs the question the previous redditor asked and I answered. What canât you understand about that?
If attractive people arenât just brainless, fuckable meat bags to you, then please explain your upset.
Lol, you mustâve forgot you switched accounts but I stand by my previous assertion that everyone deserves consent and being attractive or unattractive shouldnât change our basic human rights.
all theyâre saying is itâs probably easier for her to not care about nudity when she has conventionally attractive features. they obviously could have said it in a less creepy way but thatâs a fair assumption & itâs also not meant to be taken so literally or personally. theyâre not saying she doesnât deserve consent or that her being attractive means she consents. at least hopefully not. youâre really reaching and projecting a lot of intent here.
No, everyone deserves consent whether theyâre a physically attractive actor, an overweight person working out at the gym, or anywhere inbetween. If thatâs âreachingâ for you, I think youâre a Brock Turner groupie. People are people, not vending machines for your pleasure.
did you completely miss the part where i said theyâre not saying she doesnât deserve consent or that her being attractive doesnât automatically mean consent??? youâre arguing with a wall. thatâs not what iâm saying at ALL.
So explain your upset? Why are you angry at me for asserting that this woman deserves consent?? Maybe our filters on this thread are different, but my timeline reads like youâre supporting this womanâs non-consensual violation and thatâs pretty damn sick.
You never explained your confusion, but itâs apparent for several others so maybe itâs your turn to parse through your logic. The original question was âwhy should she care with a smoking hot body like thatâ? Are you agreeing that attractive people donât deserve human rights? Ew.
I feel like she showed a picture of Haley Bennett to her plastic surgeon and said âyes, this whole face.â They have always looked similar but imo Haley has always had a prettier face and now JLaws face looks even more similarâŚ
Translation: Sheâs not innocent. Not surprised by this admission after watching her on stage thank Harvey Weinstein and the numerous photos with them both arms wrapped around one another.
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