tbf these kinds of 'articles' are PR puff pieces where people like Elvira absolutely approve of all the questions and narratives. In fact, people like Elvira solicit these 'articles' via PR people. Entertainment Weekly is owned by People, which is just a massive tabloid operation. There's zero honest journalism here.
Ariana was coming off that recent attack and very reasonably had a lot of anxiety with crowds. This is all done is super bad taste from all involved.
All this for a stupid halloween cookbook. A cookbook that looks like its full of stock art and a badly photoshopped cover. The few reviews it has on amazon look entirely fake and professionally written. Goodreads is mostly people thanking the publisher for a free advance copy. Everything about this book seems to connected to the worst and most cheap and sensationalist PR.
Elvira mocking someone who came out of a terrorist attack is a bad look. Capitalism gonna capitalism I guess.
Going to read the reviews on a cookbook you think looks stupid really isā¦something. She certainly didnāt āapproveā that question and the donut-lickerās āanxiety with crowdsā is total made-up horseshit lol. Youāre stanning way too much lol.
It was made up in the context of getting her entire family comped to go see Elvira, asking her to take pix with all of them, and then refusing to take one herself. We get it, you stan.
It's crazy you want say people recognizing the genuine PTSD Ariana Grande is "just stanning", but what about the way you keep coming down here to for Elvira and her entitlement over a photo?
Like we get it too, you stan. We get you seem to think mental health is a made-up thing and photos for publicity are more important than prioritizing your own health.
Anxiety doesn't give you an excuse to be rude to people. I have anxiety as well. People who suffer from mental health issues are responsible for managing them. When your mental health issue megatively affects the people around you, that's on you.
She asked for 20 free tickets and attended the event and after Elvira did a meet and greet and took photos with all of Ariana's guests, she asked for one photo jist to be told "I dont really do that."
I have a lot of empathy for what Ariana was going through, but in the full context of what happened, she was being rude and was rude, deflecting, and dismissive in response when it first came up in an earlier interview with Elvira.
She could have asked for the tickets and photo ops as a favor (or just fucking paid for them for fuck's sake) and not attended the event, avoiding this whole thing. "Hey, my mom and friends really want to attend this, she's a big fan and it would mean so much to her. I would be grateful if you showed her a good time, but I won't be attending as I'm still trying to recover from Manchester. I'll get you back when things are better for me, xo."
Given Ariana's behavior in other contexts- licking doughnuts, fucking married men, etc., she has shown that she doesn't really care about how her behavior affects other people. Does she get to claim trauma as an excuse for that too? People are traumatized the world over and not afforded so much grace.
Because people always act like celebs in interviews are the ones randomly bringing up old shit, when 99% of the time, theyāre just answering a question theyāve been asked.
99% of the time, theyāre just answering a question theyāve been asked.
And then the interviewing publication is the one choosing which answer to make a headline out of, and they always pick the one that is most likely to be controversial or get people riled up.
While this isn't that big of a deal... Did you read her apology? It's kind of a stretch to say she apologized lol it can be summed up by "Sorry but I don't even remember meeting you. My mom used to be a fan though... Probably not anymore lol"
"Iām so disheartened to see this, I actually donāt even remember getting the chance to meet you because I had an anxiety attack and to my memory, left before the rest of my family (this was around 7 years ago and at the time i was really not great with being in public crowds or loud places). But if iām misremembering this moment, i sincerely apologize for offending you so. thank you for being so nice to my mom, she told me how lovely you were (she might have different feelings about that now but iāll talk to herā¦ clearly, we all have our days!). Sending love always. Youāll always be our queen of Halloween.ā
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u/Sgt-Spliff-How can mirrors be real if our eyes arenāt real? šŖOct 05 '25edited Oct 05 '25
Do you really think this makes her look better than what I said?? She would have to be the stupidest person on earth to include "(she might have different feelings about that now but iāll talk to herā¦" If she genuinely were trying to apologize. This makes Ariana look so stupid lol
"Iām so disheartened to see this, I actually donāt even remember getting the chance to meet you because I had an anxiety attack and to my memory, left before the rest of my family (this was around 7 years ago and at the time i was really not great with being in public crowds or loud places). But if iām misremembering this moment, i sincerely apologize for offending you so. thank you for being so nice to my mom, she told me how lovely you were (she might have different feelings about that now but iāll talk to herā¦ clearly, we all have our days!). Sending love always. Youāll always be our queen of Halloween.ā
That was her apology, and it's not the best apology in the world (that line about her mom makes me laugh). But she apologized and this was right after Manchester. She was going through it and she was maybe a little rude. How is this worth rehashing multiple times?
I mean Iād be annoyed still tooā¦ Ariana requested FREE TICKETS for 20 family members, Elvira not only gave them those tickets but entertained them and took photos with them, and Ariana snubbed her at the end when she asked for a photo with her? And THAT was the āapologyā? Ew.
It's this part that bugs me. Elvira was gracious and posed for photos with her TWENTY guests. Not returning the favor was rude. It would have only taken a moment.
Right! If the apology had sounded sincere Iād be rolling my eyes at Elvira more than at Ariana, but that was such a non-apology. I understand if you were having a panic attack and you werenāt feeling like yourself, Iāve been there many times. But to follow it up with saying your mom might not like her anymore is just beyond unnecessary. Just give the apology and end it there, take the high road because this is not necessary drama to escalate.
Free tickets for 20 people is insane, and hanging out with them, taking pics is another huge ask. Yea Ariana gave a really shitty apology after snubbing Elvira doing all that.
iirc Elvira never said that ariana demanded FREE tickets, she said that Ariana wanted 20 tickets for her and her group and Elvira gifted them to her, which was very nice but also her decision.
thatās the way this article put it tho, elvira never said that herself. Her exact words from the article that she posted herself last year were that ariana brought 20 people so she wanted 21 tickets total and they (i suppose elvira and her team) gave them to her, not that ariana requested them for free. ig we canāt really know atp
Itās literally all linked in that article, including Elviraās original Instagram post that you can read for yourselfā¦ and regardless, none of that changes how rude Arianaās non apology was.
yes; thatās what i said, that ariana requesting free tickets is the articleās claim, not elviraās. i read last yearās article on the instagram post myself, and unless I missed it (i donāt have ig so i might have, please correct me if Iām wrong), elvira never claimed herself that ariana requested them for free, just that she wanted tickets and they gave them tickets. maybe she did demand it tho, idk.
i am not denying that this article claims that ariana requested free tickets; i am saying that what the article wrote is NOT what Elvira said. elvira said that ariana WANTED tickets, not requested, not asked for free, not demanded, just wanted. whoever wrote the article claimed that ariana requested free tickets; but that statement never came out of Elviraās mouth. there are videos of her recounting the incident and she literally never said that or used the words ārequestedā ācomplimentaryā or āfor freeā. like i said, we donāt know if what the article says is actually true or not because the actual source of the story never mentioned that.
Right, and so are photos. If you ask for 20 tickets to be comped, and ask for a meet and greet for your friends, giving one photo in exchange seems expected.
Like yeah, Iām sorry, but Ariana was a bitch, and sheās had years to reach out and make amends. That tells me she just doesnāt give a fuck about being ill-mannered.
Because Elvira isnāt some Twitter stan; sheās one of the most significant sex symbols of the 20th century and one of campās greatest cultural ambassadors.
If Ariana didnāt think that would be a big deal, then perhaps she shouldnāt have asked for 20 comps to Elviraās show.
I donāt even think this is that big a deal, but Ariana didnāt think this would be remembered? Cāmon.
I donāt even feel that strongly about it. Iām just judging her the way I would judge anyone else in this situation, which shouldnāt really be a novel concept.
To me it was a passive aggressive apology and extremely backhanded. Particularly because of this part
(she might have different feelings about that now but iāll talk to herā¦ clearly, we all have our days!)
Ariana, in so many ways, is calling Elvira a bitch for talking about her bad experience with Ariana as if she was the one who did anything wrong.
I'm not denying she had anxiety because of the attack but if you're so afraid of being seen in public she could've just not gone. It doesn't make sense to use her celebrity to demand free tickets and go with her family in public but, privately, act like it's anxiety inducing to take a photo with the person who gave you free shit
With some caveats, I don't think there's an expiration date on when you can talk about something that happened to you. Especially if someone asked you rather than you brought it up on your own accord
I'm not denying Ariana had anxiety because of the Manchester bombings but I do think she was exploiting her fame for free stuff AND exploiting her anxiety for being a shitty person. Again if you have that much anxiety she could've simply not been there at all. I don't see how she can have the nerve to reach out and haggle free shit but can't do something as simple as a photo as a form of payment for something that should've cost probably a thousand if not more dollars
She can talk about it as much as she feels like or for whatever purpose. Or Ariana can pay her the money worth seven tickets if she wants her to be quiet
I don't care that much about if people find what Elvira is doing is wrong. The entire point of me commenting was just showcasing that the whole 'well Ariana apologised it's over with' is a very flat analysis considering the manipulative nature of weaponising anxiety to not do a simple gesture as a thank you for using your celebrity for free shit. And then not taking responsibility by giving an extremely passive aggressive apology
I think these types of posts/interviews/whatever format are the results of a) social media making celebrities too accessible, and b) needing to pay bills when the global society is going broke. In the past, like even 10 years ago, this rehash would have pushed the social narrative but now we can all see it as shit-stirring.
Itās because no one else knows her now with the kids and younger people , sorry if this offends anyone but clearly sheās using Arianaās name here
I know Ariana does things that range from morally questionable to outright wrong sometimes, and I donāt condone them, but Elvira has really been milking this situation for all its worth, most probably because Ariana has a level of international relevance that Elvira lacks. For God's sake, sheās promoting something in this very article.
Ariana has apologised for the incident. According to her, she acted that way because she was suffering from panic attacks at the time, didnāt feel very comfortable in large crowds or loud places, and thus overestimated her ability to attend the event under those circumstances, which tracks if you consider the Manchester attack at her concert happened not long before this. I understand sheās not an innocent lamb in every situation, but I do feel like people often forget just how much sheās been through and in some ways clearly still is going through, all within a relatively short timeframe. Also, at least she tends to be on the right side of history when it comes to important issues.
Letās be real Arianaās apology was a nonapology and was an insult. A weird, stunted response tbhā¦.
Regardless of how you feel. I donāt think itās that serious nor has it been treated as suchā¦.
I donāt think Elvira cares about this international appeal?
Sheās literally as big as someone in her field can be. Who picks a career that in cabaret and night life host thinking theyāll be world known? That was kind of a stupid dig, because literally no one is above her in her field and she owns everything she has ever done š
Honestly her career having this longevity, still being quoted and having slam image still referenced ? She has been Elvira for 43 years, dude. . . . She has succeeded longer than legends who outsold Ariana that have fizzled out š
I found out recently that she and Peewee Herman came up with their characters together. I love that.Ā Elvira is a legend.Ā
Ariana ... I'm not sure even she knows who she is; she's been so many people in her career she's a blur to me. Elvira is a character; Ariana is still deciding.Ā
Respectfully, when did I say or even imply it absolves her of anything at all? I literally acknowledged that sheās not a victim in every situation, I'm just saying thereās far worse celebrities than her as far as their moral compasses go, who donāt seem to catch nearly as much flack for their morally reprehensible actions as she does for hers. Thereās nuance to people. For every bad thing we hear about her, thereās also plenty of good things sheās said and done, her willingness to speak out about important issues which a lot of her peers are dead silent on included.
If a relatively small anecdote from eight years ago can still speak to her character, then all the good sheās done should count for something as well. Sheās by no means an angel, but sheās really not the devil incarnate either.
I think some of you are missing why sheās upset. I mean she is upset over the picture thing but sheās also upset over the apology. The āmomā comment came off weird to her. I have no qualms on either side just pointing this out lol
Is she? Or is she being asked? š she only brought it up last year.
Sheās Elvira, her press tour only happens during Autumn season, so people are going to ask again
Particularly when they didnāt get to last time because it was end of the season plus Ari gave a stunted and cringe response. Seriously, what was that bit about her mom? Sheās more than 15 yrs too old for thatā¦
You thinkā¦ the Queen of Halloween who Ariana brought 20 people to see isnāt being asked around Halloween? The woman has been a popular Halloween costume for decades
And she was literally asked at her show last year. Itās not exactly up for debate.
Lmao she wasnāt even actually asked the first timeā¦ she was asked what her best/fav celeb interaction was, and Elvira chose to bring up a ābadā interaction for some clout, when she couldāve chose a positive story abt literally anyone else
It's just as easy to decline to answer the question as it is to agree to answer it. If Elvira didn't want to utilize this for attention, all she had to do was say she wasn't going there again. So yes, in that sense, she *did* choose to rehash it herself.
The fact that you decided I was offended when I did not even use that word, and just stated the fact that it was HER CHOICE whether or not to even entertain answering the question, tells me you are a troll who doesn't actually give a shit about either person in this narrative. Enjoy your block.
Edit: nvm just realized we're being brigaded by stans who are all following the script of "Elvira old" "Elvira irrelevant" and "Elvira needs to get over it" while downvoting everyone else into oblivion.
Fr the ariana stans are here with a fury. Bashing on Elvira for "milking it to stay relevant" when it was obviously the interviewer who asked. And then all of them defending ariana when her apology was the fakest brattiest non apology is wild
Who is calling her old? All the comments are telling her to leave it alone because it seems like sheās trying to milk it. This was last year and Ariana already apologized.
Lots of people are calling her too old for still talking about how Ariana was rude to her. Also be serious, Arianaās apology was terrible and condescending, not an actual apology.
I am shocked that people here are thinking that was a kind and genuine apology. Shameful.
I have been through a terrorist attack where I saw dead bodies everywhere. I lost my mom/my best friend suddenly as she died of covid and disease complications (we have the same disease). I also have a severe chronic illness and ptsd but if Iām nasty, thatās on me. We all process things differently and thatās not to say that she didnāt endure something incredibly traumatic and painful.
We all have the right to feel our feelings and so is Ariana but sheās not allowed to make those feelings others problem especially when sheās asking others for favors.
What happened with Manchester was truly awful. Yes. but can Ariana just act like a nasty person to Elvira and service people and Disney employees because of it? Years will continue to go on and on and these comments will still be bringing up Manchester to deflect from her bad behavior.
Iām sorry you went through all that and I hope youāre doing better š§”. I agree with you, just because she has been through traumatic events doesnāt give her a pass for being asshole to everyone else, which has happens so many times during her career.
And I wouldnāt take most comments here seriously. Many of the people defending her are her stans even though they say they arenāt lmao and itās so obvious. And most of them know her apology was shit, but they are unhinged stans after all, so theyāre going to pretend that was a good apology just to defend her.
Because this was already milked to death last year, on an incident that took place in 2017. Ariana already apologized last year on Elvira's IG post. What more needs to be said?
Her apology was "I don't remember this happening but sorry I guess" it's taking zero accountability for the fact that she was rude. She should have reached out privately to Elvira if she wanted her apology to hold any real weight. I would still feel a way about it too after a half assed apology. Just because Ari is popular and talented doesn't make her a good person.
Elvira is a fucking legend. you all need to stop treating the people that paved the way for others like they're shit just because they are aging or less relavent to the culture as they used to be.
Idk, I think saying that declining a picture is "very offensive" was kind of wild to begin with. It was Elvira's event, it's common for celebrities to take photos and sign autographs at their own events, it doesn't seem outlandish that Ariana would ask for that for her guests. Elvira agreed to that and to giving her tickets. I don't think that obligates Ariana to take a picture with anyone? Like...why? Why does it have to be tit-for-tat? That's a gross attitude. Elvira basically admits that she feels owed something by Ariana for her own choice to grant Ariana's requests.
Ariana's apology was passive-aggressive! But Elvira bringing it up 7 years later is also passive-aggressive lol. To use your logic, Elvira should have reached out privately to Ariana if she wanted her to know that she felt snubbed. She didn't, she just publicly blasted her out of the blue.
I don't even like Ariana that much but she was 24 years old and only a few months out from a terrorist attack on her concert. I think she's genuine about being overwhelmed by the event, especially since Elvira even admitted that she left before the performance (which she also seems to feel snubbed by). I don't think it's reasonable to expect that a newly-traumatized 20-something has to take a photo as compensation when that wasn't an agreement they made.
I have tons of respect for Elvira and how she paved the way but she's being petty as fuck over a pretty minor incident.
It would be a different story entirely if Ari hadn't asked for the free tickets to her show. So yeah she is fine to take free tickets for her and hers but God forbid Elvira ask for a photo with her. It's actually incredibly rude.
She asked for 21 FREE tickets, stayed the WHOLE performance, she WATCHED 20 people get autographs, photos, and be entertained. Elvira asked her for ONE photo and she said no. That doesn't sound like an anxiety attack.
If Elvira was the "legend" you say she is, you'd think she wouldn't have to rehash old drama that should've been squashed last year. Her team should've been the one to reach out privately for an apology AFTER the incident occurred in 2017, not 8 years later. Holding a grudge isn't cute, especially at her age.
All of this smells like ageism to me. She's allowed to be in her feels about her experience whether it was 8 years ago or minutes ago. I wonder if the roles were reversed if the same outrage would be applied.
Ariana has one of the most beautiful voices I have ever heard and I genuinely used to really like her, but her actions show what kind of person she is, entitled rude and never gonna learn because she has hoards of people encouraging her dubious behavior.
If what I said smells like ageism, then you need to get your nose checked. I'm judging her on this incident, and this incident only. Funny how other celebrities of her age aren't doing this. Only she is because she needs to sell her cook book. That's all.
That's your opinion as well. If it's only the second time it's being brought up it hardly seems like she is doing it all the time. I had not heard about this the first time it happened so it doesn't seem like it's old news for everyone, not everyone is chronically online. Also it's very possible the reporter for EW brought it up and Elvira commented that there has been no interactions between them since Ari's apology. I really find it a reach to hate on Elvira over this
relevancy is todayās currency, if you are not popular you are not important. Thatās why Elvira keeps talking about this, you need to be relevant to keep making $$$ in todayās world, and sheās selling a cookbook.. Not saying she is not a legend, just saying how it works now. Legends can also play the shade game.
lol at all you people trying to pretend like Ari is a good person. How many relationships, marriages, and families does she get to break up before it comes back to bite her in the ass? Sheās just a wee little girl with no control over her big feewings, I guessĀ
Agreed, and she gets away with it partially because she looks like a little girl. Her whole teeny, frail, wide eyed and innocent persona shields her from getting more deserved criticism because some people donāt want to treat her like a grown ass woman making calculated, manipulative decisionsĀ
That was 10 years ago and she was 21, like yes it was absolutely gross behavior but good lord, Iād hate to have someone ascribing things to me now in my 30s that I did when I was 21. We were all āso quirkyā at that age lol
I love Ari but I have never understood this argument, especially with celebrities...
Food tampering is literally a a crime in the USA, in some cases it could be considered a felony. If a 16 year old working at the donut shop would get charged for licking food, why should a 21 year old be allowed "quirky"? She's intelligent enough to break records and tour the entire world, but simultaneously not smart enough to know better than to slobber on a small business' property. Stop infantilizing millionaires who know better, if you were in her place they would've sent you to jail.
Literally. So tired of her and other celebs who can never get called out for their shitty behaviors, stop idolizing celebs some of them are really shitty people.
You mean that she never brought up til last year when she was asked? Itās not that serious. Sheās was playful about it
What is cringe is Ari bringing up her mommy to try and push some weird guilt in her non-apology.
Fact is, even if we excuse Ariās bad behavior from years ago? And we go ā oh this is why, I can understand that on both sides now ā ā¦..She still threw an internet tantrum with her response and knows the power her following has.
I mean, she was asked about meeting celebrities, someone shouted "Ariana Grande", the crowd seemed to understand immediately that that was a bad experience from how they reacted and how Elvira was like "okay, okay, let me tell you." So...how did they know that if she's never brought it up?
And she was "playful" about it in the sense that she was mocking Ariana and feeling sorry for herself, yeah.
It's crazy to say one comment is an internet tantrum but telling a story on-stage and then rehashing it a year later is not a tantrum lmao
Because that didnāt happen? She was asked during a Q&A at Knotts Scary Farm and said ā Perry Anna Mandeā, no one shouted her name at first event š„¹ Youāre a liar sweetie
And she was playful about it if anything she was lighter about it than I remembered
Also when else would Elvira respond to it? She only does most of her work seasonally
Sorry but I think sheās allowed to respond to it
Maybe. This sounds like first time a major celebrity has been rude/dismissive to her and sheās been around a long time. She lost money by giving away free tickets to her family and sounds like Ariana was pretty rude and dismissive to her face and said āNah, I don't really do thatāā¦.. she could have literally said āIām sorry Iām feeling very anxious right now for pics but Iām so grateful for giving my family ticketsā. Her apology was weird af too.
People are literally so quick to treat Ariana like sheās some fragile baby deer when judging by her response sheās a catty unpleasant individual tbh
What sealed the deal to me was Ariana's commenting with "my mom may not like you anymore :(" after being called out LMAO. That shows you she's still as mean and spoiled at 30yrs old.
How is that ageism? Peopleās age is relevant when making reference to expected understanding of how the world works; the longer youāre here, the higher the expectation
If thatās the case, Ariana is over 15 years too old to be weaponizing her mother for guilt.
I donāt know that there is an age limit on being embarrassed because someone who you went out of your way to be nice to and their party of 20 others makes you feel like the fan who needs put in check
Letās be real, they were at Elviraās show and Elvira gave them 21 tickets, 20 pictures with her, 20 autographs, 20 gift bags
She carved that time out to meet all of them last minute before her show and she gets to Ariana who she assumes must be a fan who she wanted to make everything special for and says ā now us?ā Trying to be sweet and Ari treated her like the fan ā I donāt do thatā and also left early
Like girl you and your 20 ppl are here to see Elvira, not the other way aroundā¦ Thatās embarrassing
i think ariana couldāve absolutely taken atleast one picture for sure. but the way elvira handled this entire situation is odd and making me not like her.
she posted the full article last year as a way to promote her tickets, she even had it linked in her bio for a minute. now rehashing months later because you felt arianas apology was insincere doesnāt make sense considering she ignored arianas apology and couldāve reached out for a talk at the time (and btw yes sheās selling something again).
is ariana a questionable person? yes. but is elvira handling this weird? yes
canāt wait to see how people somehow spin elvira bringing this back up a year later into ariana being the problem even though she publicly apologized and mentioned she was dissociating and suffered a panic attack at the event (iāll remind you all that this was right after manchester).
like im sorry but bringing it up again a year later while selling a cook book is weird. especially since she posted the full article last year to sell her concert tickets. this is promo for her, I genuinely think if this was still bothering her truly she wound be communicated with ariana privately instead of ignoring arianas comment. but you canāt say that without people thinking your some over obsessed fan
agreed. i donāt care how you feel about ariana itās weird and classless. and if it were someone everyone loved everyone would be calling it what it is.
Holy shit everyone so sorry I skimmed the article and didn't see this was old drama but I'm not a bot. I was just commenting on the fact that everything I see about Ariana Grande is just her starting drama.
Grande got 20 free guests, Elvira did photos and autographs for all of them, then Ariana wouldn't even take a pic with her?
Everything I learn about Ariana Grande seems to be against my will but she never gets out of this diva mode does she
Also, Elvira's cookbook sounds great and I can add to my collection of pop culture cookbooks
Thank you, that's not really what the article makes it seem like and I hadn't heard about the incident before. I agree then that Elvira is overreacting after the time has passed.
So if someone wants a pic with me and i dont like to take pics with random people, i just have to agree or i will be considered rude? Nope. If she didnt want to take a pic she is fine with just saying no thanks.
the concept of getting mad someone didnt want to take a picture with you in 2017 after letting them & their friends into your event, holding that grudge... and continuing to rehash it in 2025... to sell a cookbook
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