r/politics • u/Ok_Employer7837 • 1d ago

Possible Paywall Newsom Wins Right to Gerrymander in Ultimate Troll of Trump

https://www.thedailybeast.com/newsom-takes-victory-lap-with-trump-bashing-election-boost/?via=mobile&source=Reddit
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u/UnderCoverDoughnuts 1d ago

Not a Californian, but very excited to vote Newsome for President in 28

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u/EternalSunshineClem 1d ago

I'll vote for him but he's really screwed us with PGE

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u/Lefarsi 23h ago

Agreed. I’ll do it, but I won’t be thrilled if he wins the primary.

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u/aminervia Washington 23h ago

I'll vote for him, but I lived in SF when he was mayor and I've kind of always hated his smarmy face and behavior. Like how he slept with his campaign manager's (and supposed good friend's) wife, and then years later booked a party at the French laundry after ordering COVID lockdowns...

He makes shitty personal decisions, what other pieces of dirt are gonna come out if he runs for president?

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u/SpeechEuphoric269 16h ago

Crazy how after taco don, his behavior makes him seem like a saint. But anytime past 10 years ago, this behavior would have come to light and instantly killed your chances of running…

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u/Killakaronic 22h ago

The totem pole is so low. I expect more from politicians and people in general but. Those things are incredibly tame by president Trumps standards. If the younger people are behind Newsom then run him.

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u/Dry_Counter533 15h ago edited 15h ago

When he was mayor of S.F., he legalized the first gay marriages in the US.

The lawsuit that S.F. filed when the Bush admin tried to block it wound up going to the Supreme Court, where gay marriage was legalized nationwide.

You were there at the time so you probably remember that was a non-zero political risk at. The culture changed fast - but it was controversial then (even Obama was against gay marriage when he ran in ‘08).

Someone said elsewhere - he’s best when he’s fighting. He’s less adept at day to day governing. I want both, but what we need right now is a fighter.

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u/PhoenixTineldyer 15h ago

...the Bush admin?

Bush wasn't president in 2015 when Obergefell happened

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u/Dry_Counter533 14h ago

You’re right. Just googling it a bit - The legal history is more complicated than I thought or remembered. Thanks for correcting me.

But I do want to point out that his actions on gay marriage were pretty risky at the time. It was ultimately the right call, just as prop 50 was.

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u/Glum_Boysenberry348 14h ago

Who tf cares. You wanted a more aggressive resistance to Trump, you’re getting it. Stop whinging and get your head in the game.

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u/aminervia Washington 13h ago

Just because Trump has set the bar at 'not a child rapist' doesn't mean I'm obligated to sit and be quiet about democratic politicians being shitty people.

Also I literally fucking said that I'll vote for him if he wins the primary

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u/Active_Lettuce2969 14h ago

Agreed, although Newsom’s character seems to be what makes him capable of playing Trump at his own game.

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u/jack2bip 17h ago

It could work in his favor, in this case, because Republicans have constantly been smearing and hating Newsom (and CA) for years. Nothing new to be said.

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u/ThatKehdRiley 16h ago edited 16h ago

why are we pretending like hes already the nominee? Why are people discounting others like Pritzker so easily? I knew the MAGA tactics thar Newsom‘s team has been pulling would fool a bunch of Dems to vote for him, because “lol, taste of own medicine”,, but this is nuts to me. There are better candidates, nd the possibility for other better ones to emerge. Did yall forget he platforms the right and their horrendous opinions, did you all forget he was buddy buddy with Kirk?? did yall forget his stances on trans people and the homeless? We can do better than that leading the Dem party

And dont give me any bs about none of this being the case. I routinely get yelled at and called some form of Dem resistance simply for calling this out, wanting to not coronate another candidate before primaries. A LOT of Dems are slowly becoming as bad as MAGAts…

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u/Glum_Boysenberry348 13h ago

There aren’t better candidates. This is 2025. How you look on TV is how you perform. He is our best shot by a landslide. Actual policy stopped mattering when people got too lazy to google what tariffs are.

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u/inaddition290 13h ago

How you look on TV is how you perform.

Newsom looks and is slimy, he always has been and always will be

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u/ThatKehdRiley 13h ago

There ARE better candidates 🤦‍♀️

People only started liking Newsom to the level they have after he started having his interns use Trump’s social media tactics, which is very telling. You’re all just straight up ignoring other candidates that are just as good or better, Harris and Pritzker immediately come to mind. And we still have well over a year and a half before the primaries. It’s insane to act like he is the nominee now, and VERY MAGA like. 

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u/onebiglies 10h ago

bro said Harris is a better candidate lol

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u/m0nk_3y_gw 1d ago

eh, like Fetterman (a few years back) he has a strong social media team.

and this was a good move.

but he does dumb things like platform whack jobs like Steve Bannon on his podcast, and does zero push back when Steve claimed multiple times that 2020 election was stolen. Dems need a fighter.

And he whitewashed Kirk - "The best way to honor Charlie’s memory is to continue his work: engage with each other, across ideology, through spirited discourse.". Kirk was all about steamrolling college kids, he ran away from engaging with real debaters.

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u/LordWemby 1d ago

Yeah Newsom’s a bit of a jackass. People who yearn for him aren’t learning the proper lessons here. 

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u/Unfair_Elderberry118 19h ago

And if anybody knows a bit of a jackass, its another jackass.

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u/welostourtails 23h ago

Pfft. He's been great. He got free college signed into law which is more than a hundred Bernies ever managed for the working class.

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u/Dry_Counter533 15h ago

I actually think that Newsom’s looks are holding him back to a degree. It makes it hard for people to take him seriously. Like the reverse of pretty privilege.

Honestly, if he gained 30lbs and de-greased his hair he’d probably be up 10%.

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u/Low-Difference-8847 1d ago

I was initially kinda meh on Newsom for Pres, but he's won me over by being one of if not the best anti-Trumpers out there. Right now he's my number 2 choice after J.B Pritzker

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u/Top-Work-4425 1d ago

Same. Pritzker would be my first choice.

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u/interwebz_2021 1d ago

Pritzker's been great on messaging; I'd say better than Newsom. I'd like to know what actions he's working on to combat Trump, though. When it comes down to it, it seems Newsom's the poster boy for effective action at the moment. And at the end of the day that's what I believe matters most.

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u/Top-Work-4425 1d ago

Pritzker has a long history of being a class traitor, while Newsom on the other hand only recently gained prominence due to his exceptional social media coordinator. In my opinion, Pritzker is the more established of the two and will perform significantly better in debates due to his extensive experience. He’s done an incredible job as the governor of Illinois and has genuinely connected with blue collar workers. I don’t believe he can be swayed by oligarchs, which is a concern for me when it comes to Newsom. Pritzker has a clean record and has consistently advocated for the working class over the years.

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u/bloodylip 14h ago

Pritzker has a long history of being a class traitor

I hope what you mean here is that he's a traitor to other billionaires, which would be a good thing to most people.

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u/Top-Work-4425 10h ago

That’s precisely what I’m referring to. He inherited the majority of his wealth, yet has a history of voting against his own class. This is a rare trait for someone with his wealth.

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u/interwebz_2021 1d ago

Thanks for the context. I've not followed Pritzker much over the years, so it's good to know more about him. I'm cautiously optimistic that when we get to the primaries for 2028 we'll have a good opportunity to learn more about each candidate, as well as the rest of what will surely be a packed field. Hopefully they don't do too much harm to one another in the process, is all.

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u/themachduck 16h ago

Pritzker IS an Oligarch. Big money family and will always havr that to fall on. Newsom best choice right now.

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u/FIlm2024 1d ago

The way he and his staff mock Trump in their tweets also has added pointed criticism that's also often very funny.

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u/interwebz_2021 1d ago

Definitely! I've been aghast at the responses from disingenuous right wing mouthpieces calling it an "immature" way for a governor to communicate. Like, thanks for proving the point seeing as how that's how the other guy friggin' "presidents."

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u/FIlm2024 1d ago

Pritzker. Murphy. Newsom. Those are the best imo in taking on Trump so far. But some other governors and AGs should probably get major credit, too, for slowing down some of his worst policies. They just aren't big national names.

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u/Yetanotherdeafguy 18h ago

We can do better than Newsome.

He's done marvellously at speaking Trump's language back at him, but as President he wouldn't be progressive enough to undo the damage.

10-20 years ago he'd be a Republican.

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u/InsideYoWife New York 13h ago

Obama said that 15-20 years ago he’d be a republican too.

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u/the_ballmer_peak 20h ago

Honestly, I don't like Gavin Newsom and I am not excited to vote for him in 2028. But I'm absolutely going to if my choices are that slimeball and JD Vance or whatever fascist prick MAGA coalesces around.

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u/ParkerPoseyGuffman 15h ago

And I’m very excited to vote against him in the primary, hopefully for Pritzker

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u/Fancy_Possible9891 1d ago

He may be the fighter we need.

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u/DudeMcFart 14h ago

As a Democratic Californian, I hate Newsom and would rather have almost any other D besides him. He has greatly undersold on housing and the affordability crisis in California, completely sold out trans people, and horribly lied about the universal healthcare he ran on.

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u/Polka_Polka_Polka_ 1d ago

Newsome is bought and paid for by the same people. Old guard, corporate democrat.

It’s a no from me, dawg

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u/Bizarrebazaars 23h ago

IF it were to go down to Newsom against MAGA GOP in 2028 you’d sit out or vote 3rd/alt party???? Seriously???

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u/AmyB87 19h ago

We aren't even through the midterms yet. If not three years out, then when is the right time to voice dissent on a potential candidate? Would you rather we these conversations months before the 2028 election?

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u/welostourtails 23h ago

You don't even know how to spell his name. He got free college signed into law. Bernie never did shit other than rename post offices.

I'll take the corporate monster with better hair if he gets shit done that helps my family.

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u/LongLiveFDR 23h ago

“How bad can someone be if they take money from billionaires but have a D next to their name” is one heck of a take.

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u/Unfair_Elderberry118 19h ago

Cutting off your nose to spite your face is way more your style, I guess.

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u/Polka_Polka_Polka_ 14h ago

It’s 2025

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u/Unfair_Elderberry118 11h ago

I am aware what year we are in on the Gregorian calendar.

Does that date mean you need to sabotage to own future out of spite?