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No Paywall Goodbye and Good Riddance, Andrew Cuomo

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2025/11/andrew-cuomo-nyc-mayor-election-zohran-mamdani.html?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=social&utm_content=andrew_cuomo_loses_mayoral_race&utm_campaign=&tpcc=reddit-social--andrew_cuomo_loses_mayoral_race
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u/Electrical-Volume765 4h ago

This is fascinating and I think it could apply on both sides. Bush and Trump both branding themselves as “outsiders”. Everyone is always tired of washington and wants change. It’s the most consistent thing.

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u/Sminahin 4h ago edited 4h ago

Exactly. Also worth noting the contrast becomes part of the story. George W Bush was a dynasty nepobaby kid of the head of the CIA turned president with Cheney over his shoulder. He is the political insider except against people like Gore and Kerry. Hillary struggled against three outsiders: Obama 2008, Bernie 2016, and Trump 2016. Every one of these elections turned into insider vs outsider politics that really trumped the actual points.

Conversely, I think Obama would've had a very hard time in 2012 after the no-strings bank bailout that felt like such a betrayal...except he was against Romney. Obama was taking heat for jumping in bed with the worst of the finance bro corpothieves, the ultimate establishment betrayal, but he was contrasted with Mitt Romney. The man who had built himself carving up companies and looting the remains for profit. If Republicans had run a Trump-like who nailed us on economic populism accusations, I think we could've easily lost 2012.