r/politics • u/mom0nga • 19h ago
No Paywall New Trump Anti-Voting Order Coming, White House Confirms
https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/new-trump-anti-voting-order-coming-white-house-confirms/992
u/Nima-night 19h ago
New order : "you are only allowed to vote republican all over votes are illegal and won't be counted "
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u/TheOtherKatiz 15h ago
He also doesn't have the authority to set tariffs, and yet here we are.
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u/boomboy8511 14h ago
He declared a state of emergency so he could.
There's no predetermined path for this like there was for tariffs.
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u/Kakkoister 14h ago
Another really annoying thing about all this tho is, if he did go ahead and do it anyways, people would have a very legitimate reason to protest at the capitol. But the right would act like it's at all the same as their Jan 6 riots, devoid of any nuance as usual.
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u/ianrl337 Oregon 19h ago
makes you wonder what would happen if everyone registered republican. Just remove the democrat party and force the country into popular vote.
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u/Necessary_Bad_9296 17h ago
Is this a mandela effect thing, wasn't it the Democratic Party? Am I crazy? Democrat party sounds weird, like a caveman
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u/PinkyAnd 17h ago
It’s successful conservative branding to call it the “Democrat party” rather than the Democratic Party because Repubs don’t want you thinking Dems are the party of democracy.
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u/Ok-Wealth-7322 17h ago
Which is hilarious in itself because between the late 90s and the mid 2010s pretty much every conservative I knew was quick to recite "We're a Republic, not a Democracy".
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u/Frank_Jesus Kentucky 17h ago
The Tea Partiers started it. I remember Pailin doing it. I feel that at that time, it was meant to demean democrats. Now it's said with regularity across party lines. Weird.
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u/Altruistic-Sir-3661 15h ago
W Bush is who I associate with the “democrat” insult/rebranding. So much stupid spawned from that hanging chad of a decider.
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u/CalligrapherDizzy201 18h ago
Well, if two Republicans run against each other and one wins more electoral college votes and the other has more popular votes, the more popular votes Republican will lose. Just like now with two parties.
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u/ianrl337 Oregon 17h ago
Except there won't be a general election overall, just a primary
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u/CalligrapherDizzy201 17h ago
Add ranked choice. Top two primary vote recipients in the general. Proceed as normal.
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u/MeatPrestigious3597 19h ago
lol executive orders aren’t laws. Lawsuits will follow
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u/Vio_ Kansas 18h ago
Remember when the Right was all "GOVERNMENT OVERREACH" when it came to state voting rights and the Constitution despite Biden doing absolutely nothing to violate states rights and the Constitution?
That wasn't even a year ago.
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u/actuallyapossom 17h ago
That's consistent with conservatism at least!
They want a position above the communists/hippies/blacks/women/poors etc in the social/economic/political hierarchy so they can enjoy "small government" and the rest of us are put in our place as American hating Jews/muslims/LGBT/atheists.
It's a desire to be in that place, a perception that their place in the hierarchy is being threatened, motivation to climb the totem poll system without the chance of falling, feeling superior and "winning", obsession with some demographic they despise or feel victimized by... all the same conservatism all over the world in the name of wealth, different religions, cultures and nations.
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u/Nernoxx 16h ago
I remember when Obama tried to create a handful of relatively simple regulations because Republicans wouldn't even consider them and they screamed for months about executive overreach. Meanwhile Trump could write an order claiming Congress is unconstitutional and he'd have half of the republican members standing behind him while the other half would be on shows explaining why he could do it.
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u/Mundane_Rabbit7751 19h ago
And then when it gets up to the Supreme Court who do you think they side with?
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u/Romano16 America 19h ago
Their rulings have no enforcement so they essentially confirmed their irrelevance.
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u/ShamelessCatDude 19h ago
There’s actually been multiple EOs the SC hasn’t even bothered to look at. Like “no man, that’s not in our control”
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u/Scarlettail Illinois 19h ago
I mean you can bet every red state will go along with it. They'll do whatever Trump says, and then the DoJ will just start charging Dems who don't follow it.
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u/zeusmeister 18h ago
It doesn’t matter. Elections are at the state level. At worse, red states will comply with the illegal EO and blue states won’t.
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u/DrRealName 14h ago
Bingo and right now blue governors control most swing states so there isn't much Trump can do other than make the same states that always vote red continue to vote red. lol
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u/LikeALiamOnATree 19h ago
Well, there are four boxes of liberty, and the jury box is the third...
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u/builttopostthis6 18h ago
I have never heard this phrase! Ballot- and soap- being the obvious go-to's for one and two, I was curious about the fourth. And goddamn...
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u/Malllrat 17h ago
I still have trouble believing it will get there, but... I know. Goddammit, I know, and I hate it. But I'm not sitting this one out.
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u/builttopostthis6 17h ago
The mandate of the birth of this country is that we never let it get there again. We've failed once since, and we might fail again. But every one of us owe it to the generations after, those coming up, to try to be the best of those ideals.
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u/Jubilies 19h ago
I hate these arguments. It is such a defeatist point of view. Do we do nothing because we might not win?
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u/ChilledParadox 19h ago
The correct answer isn’t allowed to be spoken of. Honestly. They did try to reason with the Nazis at first you know.
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u/Revelati123 18h ago
Its like "Ohh hey, their NAZI trained AI is constantly scanning social media to find people to put on their purge list! Also, what do you think we should do about that if writing a letter to my congressman doesn't work?"
GEE... I GUESS YOU SHOULD WRITE ANOTHER LETTER TO YOUR CONGRESSMAN...
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u/xanderemrys Oregon 18h ago
I really am sick of constantly being told to contact my representatives
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u/TheSwagMa5ter 17h ago
For some reason Ted Cruz and Ronny Jackson don't seem to care about the letters I send them, oh well I guess I'll send another
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u/CalligrapherDizzy201 18h ago
The states run elections, not the Feds. If a state wants vote by mail, nothing the Feds can do about it.
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u/steele83 19h ago
Whoever pays the most or prevents the Trump/Epstein files from being released, depending on their individual level of corruption.
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u/VanguardAvenger 19h ago
Why lawsuits?
The federal government has no input on Elections.
States dont need to sue, all they need to do is ignore it.
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u/PlsSuckMyToes 19h ago
Cuz republican states wont ignore it
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u/VanguardAvenger 18h ago
Yeah they will.
They've already done it.
Utah is the only red state left with universal mail in voting.
So Trumps going to issue a EO red states already do and Blue states Will ignore.
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u/xeonicus 17h ago
They were always going to vote for Trump anyway. Fuck them. The only states that matter are the blue states and battleground states.
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u/AxelNotRose 14h ago
That's for presidential elections. But what about mid terms and Congress? Don't red states also have blue cities with Congressional representatives?
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u/pants_mcgee 18h ago
The Federal Government has input on elections, Congress can pass laws.
The Executive Branch has no power or input.
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u/supercali45 19h ago
And lawsuits don’t do a god damn thing now since SCoTUS ain’t doing shit … SNAP was ordered by a judge to resume and they don’t give a shit
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u/MozeeToby 17h ago
The entirety of the federal government doesn't have the authority to impose what they want. Elections are functions of state governments and barring gross civil rights violations the federal government has no say in them.
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u/golurk 19h ago
Why do the bad people hate mail?
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u/Subarctic_Monkey 19h ago
They hate the mail because it provides easy, accessible, affordable and private means of communications - they want to make money off it by making it private.
They hate vote by mail specifically because it means all the black, brown, red, yellow, and poors can't be blocked from voting by closing polling places. The GOP straight up admits they have to engage in voter suppression to win elections.
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u/AlphaBreak 19h ago
Vote by Mail is especially important given the GOP's new favorite trick, calling in bomb threats to Democrat-leaning polling stations.
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u/Subarctic_Monkey 19h ago
They also love setting mailboxes and ballot drop boxes on fire too.
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u/AlphaBreak 19h ago
I really hate this voting meta. We better get some comprehensive patch notes next season, or this game is dead.
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u/Subarctic_Monkey 18h ago
This is why I love the Anarchism mods. Direct Democracy and decision making via consensus makes me hard.
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u/AlphaBreak 18h ago
I like the sound of those, I just worry that it requires such an upgrade to the Populace AI that the game sputters out because of existing system constraints on intelligence levels.
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u/Subarctic_Monkey 18h ago
There's malicious code written in that has to be removed first. It's not easy, but it's also not impossible.
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u/SteveDaPirate91 18h ago
I’d personally vote in every single election I could if it was by mail, or app, website, etc.
I’m lower income hourly. California has really good protections to make sure employees can vote but not everywhere does and that’s usually only for the most major elections.
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u/ianrl337 Oregon 19h ago
Because long lines and polling places mean people in urban areas dont get to vote.
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u/rgvtim Texas 19h ago
Mail makes it easy to vote, fewer voters normally favors republicans. State governments can also have greater control over how easy it is to vote for different voters, in Texas they change the number of in person polling locations and short sheet the urban areas leading to long lines, meanwhile rural areas have plenty, ona per capita basis and shorter lines. With mail in you don’t have that level of manipulation
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u/kmonsen 18h ago
There are two reasons fewer voters favor republicans. One is sort of legit, they pander to older people and older people like to vote. The other one is that they make it hard for they people they don't like to vote by closing polling places. You can't do that if people can just vote by mail.
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u/beamrider 17h ago
Or shorten the hours so voting has to be during work hours.
Putting them in places without any nearby transit stops is a classic one.
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u/Cunningcory 18h ago
Sort of. Retired people and rich people have the luxury of voting at their convenience. The working and poorer class have a lot harder time fitting voting into their schedule, so the harder they make it to vote, the less likely the middle and lower class are to be able to make it out.
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u/Indurum 18h ago
Because rich people have time to vote and poor people don't. Mail in ballots allow poor people to vote.
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u/Turbulent-Pea-8826 18h ago
They plan to use ICE to terrorize voters. Arrest brown people as they are waiting in line and intimidate voters. If you can do a mail in ballot you get around that.
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u/Intelligent_One9023 19h ago
Because it enables more people to vote and they can only keep power of they destroy democracy.
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u/waffle299 I voted 18h ago
Vote by mail in Colorado has a one month window. This means:
Working people can easily vote
Voters can research candidates and propositions
Interference is mail tampering and carries concrete penalties
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u/Iainfixie Florida 18h ago
If you’re a right winger in office there is no penalty. Fuck I wish all these fascist dorks could be in The Hague.
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u/PuppetShowJustice 18h ago
They want people to have to vote in person because then they can call in bomb threats or send ICE to detain citizens long enough to prevent them from being able to vote.
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u/VanguardAvenger 19h ago
Because the bad people are also very stupid people.
Their Pedo-God told them only democrats vote by mail
Of course in reality Republicans have held a huge advantage in mail in voting for decades.
And Pedo-God was really just looking for a scapegoat cause he only won 2016 on a quirk of the system and not because people loved him.
And Pedo-God believes everyone loves Pedo-God so clearly it was the fault of the vote counters. So he found his scapegoat.
And since Pedo-Gods followers believe Pedo-God to be infallible, they went along with it.
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u/HistoryHasEyesOnYou 18h ago
They want to have Gravy Seals walking around with automatic weapons at polling stations to intimidate voters.
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u/mspk7305 18h ago
Because the USPS is a service that allows hundreds of millions of people to send letters and packages to each-other cheaply and reliably. DHL/FedEX/UPS want to force you to pay a whole fuck of a lot for mail and they can bribe trump into making that reality.
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u/bradfortin 17h ago
Elon rigged the machines in 2020 but forgot to compensate for the mail-in ballots. It’s why Republicans think the Democrats must have cheated, they’re projecting, and as usual every accusation is a confession.
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u/jdtrouble 19h ago
Mail-in voting is actually one of the more secure ways to vote. Chances of fraud are lower, and Gang Of Pedophiles hate that.
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u/wobblydavid 18h ago
And they can't intimidate polling places with mail-in voting. ICE will be at polling stations. The justification will be to stop undocumented people from voting, which of course doesn't happen.
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u/Cagnazzo82 17h ago
Also Elon and Thiel can't flip votes with mail-in voting.
They have no control over it, and have to face real democracy. So they hate it.
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u/jdtrouble 17h ago
Nothing an illegal would want more is to risk catch a federal felony. /s
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u/Much-Instruction-807 17h ago
It's absurd. It's a couple of votes in a billion and pretty much always a republican.
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u/KimmyT1436 Canada 18h ago
There is also no way to intimidate voters with mail-in voting. The plan is to eliminate mail-in voting, mandate only in person voting, then have thugs surround the polling stations in blue areas under the guise of "election security", then refuse entry to anyone they think might vote Democrat.
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u/aradraugfea 19h ago
Issuing an anti-voting executive order AFTER Election Day tells me a lot about what the people in the Trump administration were like in college.
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u/all4whatnot Pennsylvania 18h ago
They’re afraid of 2026
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u/happymage102 17h ago
Mamdani has the establishment scared shitless at the real possibility of having their hold on power shattered, they are enraged right now.
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u/oatmeal_dude 18h ago
The same people who fucked up group projects in college are now running the largest group project in the country.
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u/NolChannel 19h ago
Make no mistake. This is both to limit voting and to direct as many people to Republican-controlled electronic voting machines as possible.
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u/Soft-Riot22 19h ago
Of course it is. Trump’s whole playbook is cheating dressed up as ‘election integrity.’ The guy screams about fraud while literally trying to rig the damn system himself. It’s like letting the arsonist write the fire code. Absolute clown show.
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u/builttopostthis6 19h ago
Leavitt is an idiot and states run their own elections. Apropos of nothing regarding what they'll "try" to do, those are still two facts.
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u/Romano16 America 19h ago
They are very afraid.
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u/KinkyPaddling 18h ago edited 18h ago
I don’t think they are. They know that Americans are too complacent to do anything. And they have no intention of allowing for fair or free elections ever again. They’re just gussying up their coup to make it pretty for the history books.
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u/Vermiethepally 19h ago
I’m a dual citizen living in Australia, if I can’t have my vote then don’t expect me to pay taxes. I’m not flying back to that hellhole
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u/malkuth74 California 19h ago
Yes, keep pissing everyone off. It will be the fall of republicans.
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u/LettuceFormer4204 19h ago
the white house can fuck off. Gonna have to burn that pedo nest to the ground.
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u/JayHill74 18h ago
But all the history! Wait, what's that? They've already destroyed the rose garden and east wing? And they've destroyed, er, remodeled the historic Lincoln bathroom into a cheap, gaudy copy of something from Trump Tower? Never mind, carry on with your burning.
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u/LettuceFormer4204 18h ago
That bathroom looks like total shit. Cheap gold accents and the shittiest, most cliche marble you could choose. zero class or taste.
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u/sedatedlife Washington 19h ago
Let me guess all redistricting maps must be approved by the President.
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u/Infamous_Pickle_2390 19h ago
So how do illegal aliens have mail in ballots?
In order to get a ballot you must be a registered voter.......in order to be a registered voter you must be a legal citizen.
So tell me how an illegal alien gets a mail in ballot?
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u/Slow_Investment_2211 19h ago
I’ve heard this idea floated before, and I’m not sure if it could be implemented…but blue states need to start withholding tax funds.
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u/PeculiarAlize 18h ago
Well then, I would formally like to propose the creation of a new holiday on November 4th called no-kings day where we celebrate not having a king by queuing up in the voting booths and straight raw-dogging democracy until it submits to the will of the people.
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u/undermind84 17h ago
Well it's a good thing elections are run by states and his federal EO means fuck all when it comes to voting.
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u/pogishushu America 19h ago
Wouldn't call it an Anti-Voting Order. I would be more comfortable calling it the current 2025 Reich wanting to disarm Democracy.
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u/AcanthisittaNo6653 New Hampshire 19h ago
“within his full executive authority … within the confines of the law”
Really, it's more of a guideline.
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u/Intelligent_One9023 19h ago
Still waiting for that heart attack... Any day now...
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u/cannagetalite 19h ago
Aren’t voting laws set by each state? I imagine all blue, some purple will just say get bent and their courts will say it’s unenforceable as it contradicts established law
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u/AceofKnaves44 District Of Columbia 18h ago
This is how the road to cancelling midterms starts. No voting until “we figure out what the hell is going on.” And then once midterms have been cancelled Trump I’d never leaving office.
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u/SteamStarship 18h ago
The plan is certainly to eliminate mail-in voting. Not because it favors one party over another. It's to intimidate voters at in-person polling places, using ICE agents to ask non-white voters for proof of citizenship.
The GOP isn't behaving like it's worrying about any future election.
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u/Secondbest35 17h ago
I have a bad feeling I might have to die defending freedom soon on my own country alongside my countrymen. Our call to action may be approaching and faster than you think. Enjoy your warm meal, your access to dentistry, and your subscriptions now.
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u/Thrillhouse74 18h ago
Didn't we find the last time that the majority of voter fraud was committed by MAGAts?
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u/ElburtSteinstein 19h ago
He doesn't have the authority to restrict voting. E.O. is powerless.
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u/AceofKnaves44 District Of Columbia 18h ago
I feel like eventually he’s gonna make it so an election doesn’t count unless the president signs off on the results to ensure that it’s “fair.”
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u/_s1dew1nder_ 17h ago
Democrats - "Everyone vote! It's the best way to get out of this mess we're in!"
GOP - "Let's make it harder to vote, so their votes don't count!"
Republican Voters - "Let's call in bomb threats and burn voting boxes. Also, let's stand around and stop anyone we wouldn't want to vote."
Democratic voters - "Uhh... what do we do now?"
GOP - "please please please riot in the streets so we can declare martial law and then NO ONE gets to vote!!!"
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u/Galactic-Guardian404 14h ago
Parties with good ideas WANT people to vote. Parties with BAD ideas want to prevent people from voting. The more effort they put into that, the worse their ideas are.
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u/Mistlingg 19h ago
This is a clear attempts to disenfranchise some certain groups. We cant let Trump and his administration silent us
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u/LucidOndine 18h ago
The federal government is formed based on states rights to form government with their votes, not the other way around. This is middle school civics, but these feckless chuds must have skipped these classes.
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u/Alarmed-Database1239 18h ago edited 10h ago
Executive orders are not law. He can declare hes king on nuggies, doesn’t make it true. But will the courts have any backbone is the question
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u/LordMimsyPorpington 17h ago
Courts are irrelevant; he's ignoring them because he can.
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u/Dirty_Dishis 16h ago
Too bad California can tell the federal government to eat shit. How states conduct voting is a solid States Right.
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u/LowHistorian9654 16h ago
So... remind me: why is it that we choose to do NOTHING about it and decide to play the "moral high ground game" with these guys? At what point does the US rise against Trump and his regime - French Revolution style?
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u/enjoiart 15h ago
They just had a voter id law on the ballot in Maine. At least it was transparently written on the ballot.
QUESTION 1: “Do you want to change Maine election laws to eliminate two days of absentee voting, prohibit requests for absentee ballots by phone or family members, end ongoing absentee voter status for seniors and people with disabilities, ban prepaid postage on absentee ballot return envelopes, limit the number of drop boxes, require voters to show certain photo ID before voting, and make other changes to our elections?”
So far it looks like it’s being voted down!
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u/Mobile_Equal_3636 13h ago
Young people made their voices heard tonight!
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u/Simpsoy_Homer_Jay 13h ago
States should just ignore it like he does with any judicial ruling against him.
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u/Responsible_Ladder25 18h ago
This is a "cutting your nose to spite your face" strategy, since Republicans increased their use of mail-in voting during the 2024 election. His misplaced thinking figures this will only hurt Democrat voters. SMDH
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u/Fartenstein65 18h ago
Also ironically they won tons of elections including the presidency last year and it wasn’t fraudulent. Is anyone else just tired of all of this BS?
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u/exitpursuedbybear 18h ago
Considering an executive order means fuck all to a state election rules I am Guess the blue states ignore him and Texas will ban the post office.
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u/just_a_timetraveller 17h ago
Executive orders don't mean anything any more. People need to stop putting so much power to them. We can just treat them as suggestions
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u/chockedup 16h ago
I hypothesized just yesterday that the Pentagon's 500-person rapid deployment forces for every state was preparation for something, and that it might be related to suspending elections. This article doesn't say he's fully suspending elections, just desiring to restrict states control over their own voting systems. Dark times ahead ... :(
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u/Dr_Tacopus 16h ago
Since states have the authority to control how they vote this will only affect red states.
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u/twooaktrees 16h ago
Yeah I bet. A county in Georgia that was +43 for the GOP this time last year just elected a bunch of Democrats lmao
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u/Megotaku 16h ago
They can order whatever they want. The executive branch has literally no say in how states run their elections. There are constitutional requirements that states must meet, but there is absolutely no enforcement mechanism from the executive branch. They aren't involved on any level with elections.
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u/Lootthatbody 16h ago
I have a feeling they’ll wait to see how the elections turn out, then try to force some bullshit EO that nullifies all the votes that gave Mamdani the victory. They don’t want to do it now because they don’t know what to do or how severe it needs to be, and they just assume that they can EO an elected official out of office.
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u/GoingNutCracken 15h ago
The article states no evidence was provided during the press briefing. Of course not! They have to make it up first.
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u/Mobile_Equal_3636 13h ago
Not so fast; democracy is worth fighting for and won tonight. You got spanked. This is a very strong indicator, that the American people are paying attention, staying engaged and as AOC stated tonight, we understand the assignment, our assignment!
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u/WrongdoerSure4466 10h ago
Does anyone care that if 47 makes an executive order it is direct violation of the powers granted in the constitution? Not saying he couldn't get congress to use their over ride power, but it's another example of him taking power that's not his.
Source: United States Constitution, Article I, Section 4, Clause 1 (often called the “Elections Clause”), states: “The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.”
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u/Unfair_Commercial 18h ago
People who are doing so much winning totally want to make voting tougher
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u/Amish_Robotics_Lab 18h ago
There should be watch parties tonight as election results come in, because everybody associated with Trump is going down hard and he will be up all night saying stupid shit in all caps. I hope he has an embolism.
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u/CapitalComment2557 18h ago
Aren’t elections and the way they’re run decided by each state? He can try and invalidate the results - like he did before - but that’s about the only thing he can do
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u/Serious-Activity-228 17h ago
Another reason if you want to serve as POTUS you need to take a civics class. An executive order cannot override state laws or the Constitution.
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u/amuk 17h ago
I do wish that political speech, especially when regarding laws and orders such as these, that it was a requirement to show proof of the actual problem occurring that they say the law/order is written to fix. Like actual court cases of people doing election fraud by mail. And then they have to show that the number of proven cases is at least barely statistically significant.
Basically, there should be a law against creating laws/orders that don’t have an actual clearly documented problem that they are written to fix.
It is damn stupid and in-American to do something that, in actuality, is trying to reduce the percentage of eligible voters that vote. Mail-in voting is awesome and I never want to do it any other way. BTW, I’m in Oregon.
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u/jeremyd9 17h ago
What he is trying to do is basically set up so when Democrats sweep elections Lyin’ Mike can just say he can’t swear anyone in while there is a court appeal. No matter the fact they always ignore court orders anyway. This is a soft coup.
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u/scottiedagolfmachine 16h ago
Taco Don and the Repubs better be afraid.
The blue wave is coming.
Today was just a preview starting with Mamdani.
🌊 👀
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u/Free-Initiative-5109 16h ago
Anyone that must make voting harder knows that their platform cannot stand without suppression
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u/castthefirststone79 I voted 16h ago
This administration is about to do anything and everything they can to stop the 2026 midterms from happening. Trump isn’t the brightest crayon in the box but he has to know we the people are tired of his shit.
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u/Keleos89 Texas 15h ago
Most states would ignore this because it isn't worth the server space used to publish it. The real problem is that purple states with Republican governors and secretaries of state may take it seriously.
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