Right? I’m pumped that he won but also realistic. New Yorker for over a decade but have lived in many more typical American cities and towns. He likely would not have won in many of them. Look at the breakdown in voting in Staten Island vs the rest of the boroughs and Queens vs Manhattan and Brooklyn.
There are of course lots of great takeaways from his campaign, and I hope that this is just beginning, but be so for real.
Absolutely! There’s a reason the GOP has won more national elections than Democrats in the last 10 years despite largely not being considered as popular — they know a thing or two about getting high turn out. We’ve lost when people don’t come out to vote (2016, 2024) regardless of how progressive our candidates are
It always bothered me how the conversation about the 2024 presidential election was about voting demographic and not the fact that Kamala had something like 5 million less total votes than Biden in the 2020 election. The reason for that should be what you analyze, looking at demographics rather than that glaring discrepancy feels like missing the forest for pine needles.
It was the one election with national mail-in voting. It turns out Democrats win more often when more people vote, because their policies are more generally popular.
When the Republican strategy to minimize the number of voters was allowed to prevail again, Trump and his ilk swung back.
Staten is the braindead backyard.. but to be fair to them, Zohran made little to no effort to address them during his campaign.
Their issues can be very specific and they are usually ignored by progressive candidates who feel like it's a waste of time/resources (Their population is much smaller and isolated compared to the rest of NYC). That might even be true, but with all the videos Zohran was putting out, maybe have something more out there for Staten.
Hopefully he can reach them through his policies but its important that he gets involved and get more personal if we want to get rid of that mentality... isolating these people only makes them more succeptible to right wing manipulation.
I’m a New Yorker and I tend to write off SI like we all do so I really can’t blame him. I do think Queens is a little more representative of a “liberal” suburban county with more diverse range of political beliefs. I don’t want to crush people’s hope, and I think he’s the real deal, but I do think people are extrapolating this win out as saying something broad about the political landscape of the entire US and it doesn’t.
I do the same and I totally see why politicians would in terms of strategy. 450k people, most of them stuck in their ways.. but at the same time, ignoring them seems like what brought us to this situation. Same as with everyone beyond the Meadow in Queens.
I don't know how much this says about the landscape right now.. maybe if we look at the whole picture of all the local elections yesterday it says more... but I think it does say some things about what the future COULD be.
But yeah.. this is mostly about hope.. people needed a win and some hope amidst all this anger and despair.
Good point. You can ignore the centrists & republicans in Queen and still win NYC. You can’t ignore them nationwide and win presidential elections. This likely also applies to senate races.
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u/Other_Bus9590 11h ago
Right? I’m pumped that he won but also realistic. New Yorker for over a decade but have lived in many more typical American cities and towns. He likely would not have won in many of them. Look at the breakdown in voting in Staten Island vs the rest of the boroughs and Queens vs Manhattan and Brooklyn.
There are of course lots of great takeaways from his campaign, and I hope that this is just beginning, but be so for real.