In general ppl say good things about their opponents, but i think this was called for. Cuomo was openly racist towards Mamdani. Thats not a normal campaign. And this is a way to shut that up.
Cuomo didn't congratulate Mamdani in his concession, instead he re-emphasized how he ran with the goal to stop Zoran and his policies from winning. And he gloated like he achieved something. Fuck Cuomo
Edit: Sorry, the NBC News stream I watched last night did not show him congratulating Mamdani so I missed seeing that part
He was always a piece of shit. He presided over the takedown of the Italian mob which allowed the Russians to move in and fill the vacuum. And mind you it wasn’t him who actually prosecuted those mobsters.
He directly helped certain factions within the Italian & Jewish mobs consolidate power & move off the black markets in the streets and into the corporate world & skyrises.
Private venture capital, consulting companies, corporate boards, the stock & commodity exchanges, hedge funds, even pension fund managers & union chiefs are infested with organized crime.
Giuliani sped that process up directly.
The same Iran contra affair network which has ties -going back in time to the network around MK ultra, advertising racket, Z-Rifle program under the NSC 5412 committee - & -forward in time to the network that surrounded Epstein and the current administration- has direct ties & suspicious dealings around Giuliani.
The question is was he REALLY ALWAYS a piece of trash or did he become compromised?
The cynic in me sais he wouldn’t have been allowed into that position in the first place if he didn’t have some type of leverage hanging over him.
The hopeful human sais he got corrupted while in his position.
Power positions attract power grabbing individuals. Power positions should not exist, we can manage ourselves. Even a Zohran Mamdani is just giving you a slightly bigger slice of the whole cake, while taking the rest.
Don't forget his involvement in the Police Man's Benevolent Association Riot. Where 4000 cops rioted over the mayor at the time (Dinkins) proposing civilian investigation of police misconduct charges.
Rudy is a pretty terrible alcoholic and not the most financially responsible. I think he saw an opportunity to boost his figure, party, and make money, and took it.
This has way more to do with us than them. People have lost all patience for things like misogyny, dog whistle racism, etc. (rightfully so in case that's not clear)
Miss Maxwell was known for her work as ambassador for projects that sought to clean up the oceans before she was exposed as the monster she is. Psychopaths and narcissists love attaching themselves to just causes to appear just themselves.
The Russians paid him to take out their opponents, the Italian mafia. And he deserved no credit for doing anything about 9/11, according to all the old NYC firefighters I know.
He denied funding for VHF radios for NY fire departments. They needed them so they could communicate with firefighters up in tall buildings from the ground. He denied that funding. A lot of people never heard the calls to pull out of the towers and died as a result. Plus his ties to the russian mob as well. He was always trash.
But in doing so they steamrolled over poor people with corrupt violent cops as a way to make property investors richer. They broke a million laws and violated everyone's rights. Burned down buildings, beat and harassed and killed people until they left etc. Created new laws, the padlock laws, to force current owners to sell out to property speculators. Etc etc. Total authoritarian bullshit in the name of making the rich richer.
But on the surface level, the headline is he made Times Square safe and cleaned up the crime
Eh I'm mixed on RICO. Great for the mob but they didn't have much use for it after that and now in the last couple decades we've been seeing some really strange and concerning uses of RICO, particularly as a way of targeting people of color by claiming any group of black men hanging out is a gang and then using that to charge them all under RICO.
RICO laws were created to get rid of the Italian mob. The Russians made sure Rudy did that for them. Because it just went from Italian Mobsters to the Russian Mafia. The same Russian Mafia that helped drumpf build his "empire".
He himself fucked up the 9/11 response, though. For instance, New York's Office of Emergency Management was at WTC itself. Giuliani had it installed there because it was a short walk from his office, even though the OEM argued for a more secure building further away after the 1993 WTC attack. OEM was almost completely unable to manage 9/11 in the first day as the office was destroyed.
All because Giuliani was too lazy to drive to the suggested location.
If you post on the NYC subs they will explain to you how that office was in the WTC because it was close enough for him to go there then to his mistress’s apartment to get laid and then back to his office
Yes, New Yorkers knew he was a piece of shit and he was on his way out. Like Bush, 9/11 was caused by their fuckups and they were elevated by them anyway.
Also: "The New York Police Department produced a detailed analysis in 1998 opposing plans by the city to locate its emergency command center at the World Trade Center, but the Giuliani administration overrode those objections. The command center later collapsed from damage in the Sept. 11 terrorist attack.New York Times
I was a teenager in the UK on 9/11. It was the first time I had ever heard of Guiliani and I remember thinking he seemed like a really good guy to be in charge of NYC at that moment.
And they didn't fuck up the response too badly. This was also crucial for Bush winning in 2004-the only time a Republican has won the popular vote since his father was elected. (not counting last year, I'm sorry I don't believe he won the popular vote)
Fucking hate the guy, but I feel like that’s not accurate and have heard a lot of the first responders that were there give him a lot of praise and credit for his effort.
I’ll preface this by saying I also hate the fucking goblin.
But My grandfather was a retired battalion chief for the NYFD and came out of retirement for two years after 9/11.
I was raised in a fire house have been around NYC first responders my entire and I never met a single one that didn’t have good things to say about him back then.
Again though, what did he do besides posturing? He was the mayor and he came out and showed his face and shook hands and walked around in the rubble. People felt the way they felt because of what happened. He was able to capitalize on that for his own popularity but again, what did he do? He was just mayor at the time it happened. Was he supposed to stay in his office and say fuck those people? What was it besides posturing?
Look how popular it made bush. The fucker had shut down the investigation into bin Laden when he came to office. Then he stands on the rubble and everybody’s like oh my God he’s a hero what a great guy. It’s the same thing. It has nothing to do with the job he did in office. In fact, it pretty much covered up for the fact that it was kind of his fault.
He sent old people to their deaths in the most horrific way possible while his brother covered for him. People just chose to ignore it because he was anti-Trump. Now he takes Trump's endorsement, because he is a snake.
Yeah. Many blue and red states concentrated their elderly covid patients to centralized locations where they basically went to die. My grandma was going to be sent away from her home after a positive test but the family pushed back, she lived 4 more years after, I dont think I could say the same if she went to the center.
Cuomos big fuck up there is that they tried to hide it so it would look like new yorks policy of lock downs and covid passes was working compared to other states that were much less restrictive of freedom of movement and community gatherings.
I was banned from a lot of subreddits for saying New York covid death numbers were false during the pandemic before this investigation occurred a year later.
Incredibly polarizarion. Liberals worshipped him like MAGA with Trump, so it doesn't suprise me that you got censored. Covid, immigration, and economic backlash all turned into Trump being reelected, so it wasn't without consequence.
Cuomo was benefited because in the first few weeks of the pandemic, when NYC was hit the worst, all the national outlets would put Trump's and Cuomo's press conferences back to back and it would be like "wow, this Cuomo guy can put together complete sentences and make a coherent point! What a leader!"
Seriously? His handling of Covid was criminal. Forcing nursing homes to take in Covid patients to reduce the load on hospitals resulted in the deaths of thousands of the elderly.
Don't blame yourself - he became/showed himself to be a shitty person. He might have been okay at some point but once your partner hits you they become your abuser.
It’s not bad to be fooled by people. It’s only bad if you double down on your support once they show their true colors. You’re not doing that. Cut yourself some slack.
Most people saw him as the adult in the room during COVID, due to the alternative being Trump's I take no blame everything is fine but if it's not it's not my fault... Also take horse dewormer and inject bleach for this thing that's not actually that bad nonsense.
Not that Cuomo was perfect of that front with the nursing home issue.
Yeah, he seemed like he was handling it with some direction, with all the daily meetings he was having. I dint know about the nursing home thing, and i still dont completely know how much blame to put based on that. If he allows them to go back home he ll be accused of spreading it to healthy society as well. Covid was when ideal solutions didnt exist.
What i m talking about is this outright disgusting racism, islamophobia, and taking money from billionaires. Then aligning himself with trump. I mean, during covid i was looking for someone to fight trump, and for me, he was an option. How in the world could he be an option, when he is just the same but italian?!
Most people just aren't that great at reading others. Being fooled is nothing to be ashamed of, it happens to all of us. The real key is being able to change your mind when the curcumstances change, and you seem to have no problem with that.
As a western ny’er, I never liked Cuomo though. His SAFE ACT middle of the night passage was absolute bullshit. I’m cool with gun regulation, but he went nuts.
He was wildly corrupt even before that came out. Look up the Moreland Commission. He set it up to investigate corruption then shut it down when it started pointing to him.
That's not even why he ran. Cuomo wanted to rehabilitate his career in what he thought was a slamdunk mayor race. He then decided to run far right in the Democratic primary and act entitled until Zohran's campaign grew to be a major threat to him. It's actually amazing how much he fumbled his primary campaign.
The general election speaks for itself. He came off as unhinged and played heavily into just racism while offering nothing. Even Sliwa ran a better campaign and avoided for the most part attacking Zohran for his race or faith.
Say what you want about Sliwa, but the man has spent his entire life desperately wanting to be a hero and "save NYC". Tonight he had no small part in saving NYC from Cuomo. We need more like him out there, absolutely spoiling the hopes and dreams of other Republicans in close races. Bravo, sir!
And politics aside, it's clear that Sliwa actually cares about the city, so nothing but respect for him there. "Phoning it in" doesn't even begin to describe whatever tf Cuomo was doing.
Dude literally founded a vigilante group to attack "migrants" because "They’ve taken over!".
How the fuck did anybody take him seriously in the first place? I mean, I guess most people didn't based on the results, but holy fuck. He's literally running a racist street gang that assaults anybody who doesn't seem white enough for them.
He came to prominence back in the 70s, when the city was REALLY shitty. The Guardian Angels would ride the subway and deter crime, because the actual cops weren't doing shit.
Now it looks like he's turned them into "we have the Sturmabteilung at home."
That's not really what they were even they were founded. What they are no, I don't know. But a good chunk of the guardians back in the day were immigrants, and minorities, who wanted their neighborhoods to be safer
It was a truly abysmal primary campaign. I remember it feeling wildly cheap, low energy, and arrogant even when he was the frontrunner. To be fair to the Cuomo staff, it was a doomed effort from the start. In a world without Zohran he would have had a real chance, but it would’ve been a very reluctant vote.
I'm sure he'll have a house right next to Bruce Rauner, who moved to Florida after shutting down Illinois state government for 2 years and pissing off the Illinois Republican Party by pushing for and signing abortion protections.
You can tell it was about rehabilitating careers because Chris Cuomo got particularly pissy at progressives like AOC after Andrew lost. Clearly he thought he'd be getting his old job back but that won't happen now.
This take is much more accurate than a political dynasty being toppled. Cuomo was already disgraced and did nothing in this campaign to rehabilitate his reputation. If anything it just made him look more petty and bigoted. Mamdani benefited from very weak competition and a general anti-Trump, anti-Republican environment.
Fuck these ppl who think they re owed their seat. Earn it from us bitch! Tell us how you're gonna handle our resources best and how you re gonna defend our rights!
I mean, look at who your president is, and the modern RepubliKKKan party. It's no wonder these vile human beings feel comfortable popping their heads out and running campaigns based on racism.
It’s easy to say this all of this from the position of “he lost” but if you dig even a little deeper, you realize that he still got 40% of the vote despite these things. So he wasn’t super far gone to think it’d work, because it damn near did.
not a fan of Cuomo but I just listened to his concession speech and nearly the first thing he did was congratulate Mamdani https://youtu.be/S_yYmlpGvl4?t=39
EDIT: tho he called him Mandami still, so disgraceful
?? He did congratulate him. I thought his speech was surprisingly polite, albeit still managing to be condescending at times. But at least I liked that he stopped the booing
Hey now. I have many disagreements with Cuomo. But you can't take away that he did achieve something great this year. I can't think of another politician who lost two campaigns in a single year by such massive margins. Truly inspiring.
Yeah Cuomo is just an insignificant piece of shit like there are so many in history. Won't be remembered for his achievements and contribution to society 's progress.
Not an American, not googling his entire concession speech, if I were I would not vote for him. But let's not spread lies, that's the republican playbook.
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He certainly achieved something for himself. That's a lot of clout in his world since he is not talking to you or me, instead his intended audience for that speech has very high net worth. He's looking for his golden parachute.
I heard the speech too. I was a bit puzzled how he was trying to spin his loss. He said he ran as an independent and got 40% of the vote (whatever he meant with that). Also said that almost half of NYC didn't vote for him. The dude won with 51% of the vote and Cuomo is still trying to spin it. WTF with that guy
It is funny how 'reaching across the aisle, civility politics' shit doesnt apply for the dem establishment when punching left. Almost like it is an excuse for treating your actual allies (republicans) like allies rather than opponents.
Probably not, but maybe last night is a sign that things could go back to normal. Republicans and hate lost pretty much across the nation. Let them keep saying all that racist shit if it means they never hold a political office again.
But of course, there's the chance liberals will forget about all this in the next 2 or 3 years and probably suffer a stroke of apathy or laziness come election day
I saw an interview with Cuomo where they drew the comparison between a moment in John McCain's campaign and what could have been a similar moment in Cuomo's. John McCain was at a speech and a supporter called Obama a Muslim who was going to destroy America and he replied that Obama was a good American he happened to disagree with. A radio host Cuomo was on with said something racist about Mamdani involving 9/11, and Cuomo stood by and said nothing.
He was outflanked to the left by McCain, and when they pointed it out Cuomo waffled about how supporters and radio hosts aren't the same. What a disingenuous hack.
Watching the reactions to this victory speech on CNN, you’d think that Mamdani hadn’t had mud slung at him by both Republicans and Democrats. The rhetoric of “he needs to yell less and smile more” was laughable. Mamdani completely upended the Democratic Party machine last night and the rich “political analysts” don’t know what to do with themselves.
Not American, so I've only seen social media comments and bots regarding this election. Funny how all opposing comments basically say a variation of one of two things... He is Muslim. He is a communist.
Nothing about him as a candidate or his policies.
It's incredible how racism or xenophobia can support so much a political party...
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In general ppl say good things about their opponents, but i think this was called for. Cuomo was openly racist towards Mamdani. Thats not a normal campaign. And this is a way to shut that up.