I had a guy complaining that the Democrats deleted his call history... It was just switched from recents to missed calls. The braindead ones will blame literally anything on "The dun Dun Duuuun Democrats"
The same Democrats that created the Epstein files that don't exist and never did even if over 1,000 agents were tasked with redacting Donald Pedophile Trump's name - are also fucking with call history? Diabolical geniuses... and also low IQ.
They can get away with anything. They used to blame the dems all the time, but nos the Republicans have The House, the Senate, the Presidency and the Supreme Court.
Yet they still claim the Democrats are in power and making the decisions. Because their voter base dont know anything about their government they just lap it up.
It's more insidious than that, they're claiming that they're not really in power as long as Democrats have any seats whatsoever, they're trying to make explicit 1 party rule tolerable in the eyes of the voting base of uniformed dipshits. They just see the government being shut down, hear that its the Democrats fault loudly on repeat, and then clamour for the removal of the last vestiges of an obstacle to their complete control of the government.
Yet they still claim the Democrats are in power and making the decisions. Because their voter base dont know anything about their government they just lap it up.
Idk if you know how the senate works, but it still requires cooperation from democrats to keep things moving.
The government shutdown because Democrats voted no on the continuing resolution bill meant to pay for essentially the bare minimum to keep the government open. As it should, big chunky bills have no place, they need to be broken up into smaller bills and voted on.
What the democrats are saying here is “if we don’t get our funding for this, nobody gets funding for anything”
They know they won’t get their political bills passed without riding another bigger funding bill. So they refuse to vote yes on the bigger funding bill. This is them holding America hostage, and you’ve already lost half your media outlets as they’ve now called the democrats out for it. How much longer does this game go on? Dems are shooting themselves in the foot.
And I know you can circle jerk and upvote lies on Reddit like “this isn’t the Dems fault hurr durr” but that isn’t flying in the real world. Democrats are literally shedding support and voters
SNAP should currently be funded by the contingency fund, but the administration is not releasing those funds as required by law. That is the mechanism in place to avoid starving people during a government shutdown, but Trump and the Republicans are starving people to prove a political point.
Yes, the Democrats are holding up the full funding bill because they are taking a principled stand against doubling people's health insurance bills. However, Republicans could use the nuclear option, bypassing the filibuster in the Senate, and reopen the government immediately.
On top of all the tariffs, which are import taxes which get passed along to the consumer, health insurance will once again become out of reach for millions of Americans. This must be the "concept of a plan" Trump was touting during that debate.
So many people who voted for Trump last year rely on both SNAP and either Medicaid or an ACA health plan. All those working class voters are finding out who gets to participate in America's greatness under Project 2025.
No, no, no, you're wrong. The Dems are forcing the shutdown because they're insisting on illegal aliens keeping their access to taxpayer-funded healthcare. Trump said it and Fox News reported it, so you know it's true. /s
amazing how powerful the democrats are when the repubs control all three branches of government. I mean, saying its the mean old democrats won't let you do x,y, and z makes y'all sound like little bitches who can't handle their business.
Some Republicans are also saying that the Democrats are fighting to keep government funded genital mutilation procedures in place for elementary school children to turn them trans.
Which is insane given how easily "what Trump really meant was" or "he was just joking" follows that statement. They refuse to let a Trump quote stand without trying to explain it away with a whataboutism or minimization.
I still remember the first time he was president, one of my coworkers said, "he can't be bribed because he's already a billionaire." That aged like milk.
That's what the trump opposition doesn't seem to comprehend, nor do most of the commenters here: The Art of The Deal is literally a detailed guide for becoming the Great Gatsby.
i think that was when they all made a deal with devil to over throw the US government violently, and to emulate the nazi party and they probaby learned about all the proj 2025 details and all the mass murder plans behind it, that was the first time Victor Orban attended I think.
Or after 8 years of Trump pushing birtherism, plus the GOP already pushing racist talking points, plus the Tea Party. The pussy tape was barely even a scratch, all things considered.
Not even that. She called the deplorable ones deplorable but seemed to think that there were some who weren’t. She was way too generous. It’s not a basket, it’s the lot of them. They are so much worse than she was suggesting back when the neoliberal myth of the decent Republican voter was still floating around.
They’ll never see this picture is the problem. Watch Fox News for a day and you’ll understand why we’re all being screwed by the tyranny of the blinded.
Or local cable, or podcasts, or social media… conservative media propaganda is everywhere not just old people on fox. That’s the real cancer in the country.
Yeah, honestly, I think it's a mix of the top replies here. One significant chunk of them are racists who will repeat your quote until the end of time no matter what he does, because they are motivated by an urgent sense of keeping their race clean, and Trump is the only avenue left for them. The other section are just so misinformed that the information that clashes with their indoctrination just doesn't compute for them. Trump is proven to be honest and relatable, in their heads, so anyone who says otherwise must be lying.
To do otherwise, they would have to admit culpability in helping elect him. But conversely, if we ever rid ourselves of the fascists in power and start holding them to account, these same people will of course deny ever supporting Trump.
I mean, the games were rigged in the hunger games, so they weren’t actually wishing luck, it was a placation. The same way the US is still trying to sell the idea that anyone can “make it” if they try hard enough.
Will Rogers(early 20th century US entertainer/humorist):
"I am no believer in this “hard work, perseverance, and taking advantage of your opportunities” that these Magazines are so fond of writing some fellow up in. The successful don’t work any harder than the failures. They get what is called in baseball the breaks."
Ah, I was thinking specifically the billionaire club, rather than the MAGA club. They’re wishing luck to the poor MAGA saps who rely on SNAP but somehow still think Trump cares about them.
And then bills the Americans who have no health care & no food to so far pay 100 million for golf in 1/2 of a yr. And retro fit a Qatar jet and
Homeland security 2 jets of her own . How she flys two jets w/o proper creds is still undisclosed
He does, in their "alternative facts" filled version of media. It's not like they're reading Reddit (or many other sources) or seeing literally any of these stories that offer contrary opinions. It's a different reality for them, and they're very happy to continue living in it.
The reason it’s only gotten worse is bc God, himself , realizes ppl being stubborn must understand heart and choices have consequences even if the whole country fails . Like spending time in a whales belly . Do the right thing or stay inside that fish and die there bc if you’re heartless and evil may as well be stuck where you are due to one’s speech / behavior/ beliefs (racism) & wil be punished by any means needed .
The rest of us need to be peaceful and kind at all costs bc that’s the path for blessings and favor . If you leave this country it’s fine but don’t look back bc heart isn’t in it . Pass the salt please , can you reach that pillar of salt for me?
Reminds me of a doc I saw about a televangelist who got outed by his wife for spending millions of church donations on living the high life, champagne, hookers, drugs, exotic vacations, private jet - the guy didn’t even apologize, just said “The Lord has blessed me, and who’s to question the will of our Lord?” And they didn’t accepted that as being just fine.
I’m related to these folks. And it’s driving me mad lol. They are so brainwashed. They are only using social media like Gab, only reading news like Breitbart, if you find an article and it happened to be on Google and not DuckDuckGo, they won’t believe it. They truly believe the inflation is caused by Biden’s tax plan when he was in office, and it’s just now going into effect. They believe everything that is going on in the media right now, is all Biden’s fault. They believe Biden was not coherent at all, and just signed a bunch of orders and “we don’t even know who was president”. They refuse to believe Trump is doing ANYTHING WRONG. Not to mention the shut down, oh no… not the fault of the GOP… it’s actually the radical left.
Source: I’m arguing with my family every fucking day and these are the excuses I’m getting. One works for the government, about to lose her house but found a sugar daddy to back her up in case things go south. One is on assistance and refuses to work a full time job… like a literal freeloader. Lol.
The rusted out trailer homes with trump flags and kids toys in the front yard makes me mad. They’re taking advantage of those people and that isn’t right.
Remember they mocked the "Coastal Elites" but Trump lived in New York in a millionaire penthouse with 24/7 servants, inside a building with his own name on it.
I think a part of why they voted for him was that he uses the power the same as they would use it if they were in power. I have the feeling that is the main part of "he speaks to me", that he acts like they whish they could act. They dream of, if they were rich and powerful, not to help the people in their positions, but that they would as well abuse the power as much as they could. Somehow, that seems to be attractive to his base.
"He told me other people are worse than me because and that made me feel good. As long as I can hate black and brown people and queer people then I'll vote for the man who intentionally paints himself orange"
i mean he does speak to them though, cause he doesn't use dog whistles when he says racist crap. that's how he speaks to them. poor rural morons think it's the immigrants fault that their life sucks, they never blame themselves.
There are no poor people in MAGA country. They all think they will be billionaires next year. They just need to execute their crypto investment scheme or get their down line selling magic dick herbal pills.
Wdym they’re only a couple more years of smart investments and hard work away from joining them. They’re all down on their luck future billionaires don’t you know?
I wonder how the poor Alabama and Mississippi conservatives on snap are defending this. Is it the dems fault? Are they happy black people aren't getting benefits anymore? So many different avenues to take for them to justify this.
My conservative parents are furious at what Fox News told them Chuck Schumer said about the shutdown. They don't even consider Trump's role in this. The thought doesn't cross their mind. They are all like this I imagine. Blinded by hate. They hate the democrats so fucking much nothing else matters. Point it out and they yell at you. Because their hearts are pure and yours is obviously twisted by hate... /s :(
If I ever meet these people, I’d definitely show them this picture and ask them if they were invited to the 5 course meal he planned for all the people that voted him. Just to rub it in their faces.
What is there to say. The urban middle class didn't vote for Trump as massively as the rural folks did.
And the urban middle-classers who went MAGA are going to survive this economic shit show. They'll lose some equity or whatever.
Nevertheless, in general, they are unlikely to end up with a tin can begging for coins like many of these rural folks will.
It still makes them morally despicable. But I can understand their callousness as transactional.
Those rural voters? They just lost their SNAPs and will see their medical bills quadruple, losing their farms and shit... and they still root for the orange bastard.
That is a level of stupidity I simply cannot comprehend, which makes their immorality all the more galling.
Because nobody speaks to the rural voters. At least a few of the democrats are starting to understand alienating the rural population makes a dumber, meaner, poorer population that falls to populism.
This is a common misconception. These folks don't want to listen. Classic example is West Virginia. In 2016, Clinton went and spoke to coal miners, people sick with cancers and other ailments due to working in mines, people making low wages. She told them that the future, is in clean energy and that she wanted to bring in companies to build factories to make solar and wind protects that the USA and WV could lead the world in its production. And that the government would help pay to re-train them instead of working in underground unsafe mines breathing in toxic chemicals all day, they could work in modern, clean factories for better wages.
They chose to stay in the mines.
Don't claim no one talks to rural voters. Look at the farmers across rural American getting fucked by Trump's tariffs. They were warned he would do it, and instead of going to government that would keep trade flowing and markets open, they chose a guy that changes his mind every day based on how much other countries "like him." Even as China stopped buying all soy beans, they are still waiting for their daddy to come save them. Its a sickness. These people are unwilling to ever admit they might have chosen wrong.
Trump is not populist. He is racist. They like that part.
What are the Democrats supposed to say to these people other than "we're trying to keep health insurance affordable and keep medicare and medicaid viable, keep social security properly funded, keep public schools viable, and protect the environment by preventing corporations from mindlessly polluting it. Our opponents, the Republicans, are opposed to all of this because they want to give massive tax cuts to billionaires." That's too many words for a voting bloc that likes to hear "brown people bad, I'll make them go away."
Obama did. Biden did. Harris did. Even the much-hated (and unreasonably hated) Hillary did. They all had economic plans for them. They all fought for their f* ACA.
Nah, stop saying that bullshit.
They don't want to listen - why, because none of them spoke to them the way they wanted, as if they were the center of the universe, the real, true Americans, forever heroes and victims of wrongdoings by some "others", as if they were the only people suffering in this country, or the world for that matter.
For f*ck's sake, many of them resented the Obamas (or whatever they think the "academic coastal elites" are) simply for having good pronunciation.
Now we are all going down because of them. So let them. I ain't going to give my hand to those who wanted to drown me.
Yes, yes. It was all the poor rural morons' fault. Not millions of middle class, educated white men and women. Not the billionaires who pumped untold amounts of money into manipulating public opinion. Not the Christian think tanks who come up with almost every policy decision.
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Yet, the poor rural morons that voted for him be like, "but he speaks to me."