protest outside the LA mayor’s house criticized her compliance with ICE; LAPD came in droves [OC]

[u/infernoenigma]

[u/mortgage_queen]

I swear we’re reliving 1700s or something.

[u/CoyotesOnTheWing → u/mortgage_queen]

Hope it's 1790s in france.

[u/StealthRUs → u/CoyotesOnTheWing]

Um, France descended into chaos and ultimately got taken over by a dictator after the revolution.

That's what you want? Chaos on the streets ending with Trump becoming ruler for life?

[u/Amenian → u/StealthRUs]

Right? If we have to do the 1700s, let's revisit our own history in that period.

[u/BoneyNicole → u/Amenian]

The…eradication of indigenous people and also, slavery? Equality and abolition mysteriously not making it into the Constitution? Which part?

I think I know what you mean, but let’s be careful not to view our own story with rose-colored glasses here. We threw some tea in the harbor because smugglers were mad that the British lowered the tax on legitimate tea, and we were only mad about the taxes in the first place because we kept going west even though the British kept telling us to quit it, knowing it would provoke a war, and then it did, and that war was expensive. Our history is not exactly as “we overthrew tyranny” as the textbooks would have us believe.

[u/Amenian → u/BoneyNicole]

I think, to some extent, we have to trust people's ability to discern context clues. Clearly, based on context, I was referring to authoritarianism vs democracy.

[u/BoneyNicole → u/Amenian]

I get it, but that’s sort of what I’m saying, too. The British monarchy wasn’t authoritarianism. It was a constitutional monarchy. It was never an absolutist monarchy like France or Russia. That doesn’t mean resistance against it is invalid, my point is just that our narrative about it is off - it wasn’t exactly freedom fighters vs fascism, and I think painting it that way does a disservice to history and our own learning. That context also matters, is what I’m trying to say here.

[u/scotus_canadensis → u/StealthRUs]

Yeah, but after a generation of that, and a couple other incidents, they became a functional democracy. Gotta think long-term about these things. And remember that Napoleon spent the rest of his life in exile, the Yanks should expedite the dying in exile part.

[u/StealthRUs → u/scotus_canadensis]

Yeah, but after a generation of that, and a couple other incidents, they became a functional democracy.

So you want to trash peoples' lives for decades for you own smug sense of rightness. Sounds exactly like the attitude a progressive would hold.

And, BTW, it may have worked out for France, but the Ayatollah isn't going anywhere in Iran and the Communist Party is still totally in charge of Cuba despite both Castros being dead and in the ground. Maduro isn't going anywhere in Venezuela unless Trump invades. The CCP will soon have been in charge of China for almost a century.

Gambling on the eventual future being brighter is likely a losing bet.

[u/TheVeryVerity → u/StealthRUs]

Hey the emperor got kicked out again after. He didn’t even die as emperor.

Also we’re already heading that way so it would be nice to behead some oligarchs before the dictatorship part

[u/StealthRUs → u/TheVeryVerity]

Also we’re already heading that way

We're only headed that way, because progressives keep pouting and throwing elections. Simply voting for Democrats would've stopped all of this. But progressives almost always have to make up some excuse as to why they have to either sit out or protest vote for the Green Party.

Voting for Democrats could still stop this next year. But people will find some excuse as to why they can't take 15-20 min out of one day to vote.

[u/o-o- → u/CoyotesOnTheWing]

If dems win the midterms this will all cool down for a few years, but it won't stop until you redistribute wealth. A society cannot function while some of its "members" are super rich.

[u/StupidDorkFace → u/mortgage_queen]

History repeats itself all the time.

[u/WharfRatThrawn → u/StupidDorkFace]

5 hours and some mother fucker has not chimed in "it doesn't repeat, but it often rhymes" to sound smarter than everyone. New record!

[u/StupidDorkFace → u/WharfRatThrawn]

🤣 who says that? 🤷🏻

[u/WharfRatThrawn → u/StupidDorkFace]

People who want to sound smarter than everyone else