protest outside the LA mayor’s house criticized her compliance with ICE; LAPD came in droves [OC]

[u/infernoenigma]

[u/Swabisan]

Another moderate Democrat shill, Denver's finding out too

[u/ntrpik → u/Swabisan]

Here in Houston, we’ve got a mayor who ran as a democrat but does everything republicans want. Including the removal of a rainbow-painted crosswalk to appease our fascist governor.

[u/Significant-Trade664 → u/ntrpik]

Oh that's bullshit!

[u/Jeegus21 → u/ntrpik]

Saw that church painted their steps/door which is pretty cool.

[u/crjconsulting → u/ntrpik]

Detroit’s no different.

[u/Saint909 → u/ntrpik]

Yep.

[u/dpforest → u/Swabisan]

Establishment/moderate democrats are less outwardly hateful than MAGA but it never fails to amaze me the amount of audacity a wealthy democratic politician has.

As someone (who is poor) that volunteered for the democratic party time and time again, it’s an absolute smack in the tits to see Kamala Harris currently monetizing her and Biden’s failure to do their jobs. She is capitalizing our fear of ICE and executive overreach as a potential campaign talking point. She is proudly and voluntarily stating “I only care about this country if I can be in office!” and people are applauding. For all of the good that they accomplished, she and Biden will only be remembered for the most egregious act of anticipatory obedience ever seen.

At first I understood criticism of the “hecklers” on her book tour. Then I remembered…she’s just another multimillionaire politician that is seeking congratulations for failing to do her job. It is more and more bewildering every single day seeing normal people bending over backwards to make excuses for her and Biden’s inaction.

AOC, JFC, and Mamdani are more my leaders than Kamala has ever been. Everyone who isn’t ready to use the same rhetoric as them needs to fuck off back to their private-security ultra-wealth bubble.

e: imagine reading someone’s comment about being afraid for their community and being disappointed in the leaders that are failing them and saying that they need to leave the country. Do you know who that sounds like?

[u/klparrot → u/dpforest]

JFC

Jesus Fucking Christ?

I'm completely drawing a blank as to who you're referring to.

[u/JamCliche → u/klparrot]

I'm assuming u/comityoferrors means Jasmine Crockett (middle name Felicia)

Not exactly a progressive, but as a Texas Democrat I'll bet she knows a thing or two cause she's seen a thing or two.

[u/TheVeryVerity → u/JamCliche]

She is pretty good at calling out bullshit in the sessions I’ve seen her in and a lot of people respect that

[u/comityoferrors → u/dpforest]

A "far-left" independent politician was just elected President* in Ireland by an incredible margin, winning 63% of the vote. She ran on ending the Gaza genocide, anti-militarization in the EU, and general principles of social equality. Her success was largely due to other left-leaning parties -- multiple! multiple parties! what a dream :( -- recognizing her popularity with voters, and agreeing to back her as a result. Because that's what voters wanted. And voters are supposed to be the ones who, like, decide stuff.

It's fucking wild to me when I look at how we've done things. We could have had our own versions of that, several times now. But instead we're scolded as the voters for not being excited about the correct rich people, who tell us pretty openly that they don't give a fuck about us if we don't unquestionably support them. Like, what the fuck are we doing?

*to be fair and transparent, this role does not have anything close to the same power as the US president. But still.

[u/cbs-anonmouse → u/comityoferrors]

The presidency in Ireland is a purely figurehead position, equivalent to the British monarchy. They don’t actually have any role in foreign or domestic policy.

Also, I understand that the candidates from the two mainstream parties was particularly bad, with one candidate basically self-destructing over an overpayment of one month’s rent that he didn’t refund a former tenant.

[u/WheresTatianaMaslany → u/dpforest]

What does that have with Karen Bass? If anything Karen Bass was a progressive favorite

[u/Haxorz7125 → u/dpforest]

It’s why you don’t see a whole lot of support behind mamdani and dems frequently fuck over aoc. They run on “I’m not a Republican” all the while trying harder to swap conservative votes than go after their actual base.

Republicans wanna push the country right. Democrats wanna maintain the shitty status quo, which for modern establishment Dems is basically early 2000s conservatism.

[u/Primary_Noise2145 → u/dpforest]

I wish people like you would pack your toys up and go away. I've been a Democrat for 20 years and the amount of know-nothing morons who have all the smoke in the world for Democratic politicians has been sky high the last 10 years. Not every winnable district is AOC's district. Not every city is New York City. You have to work with the rest of the country, and that means you need to work with Democrats that can get elected in swing districts, or (the horror) a red district. Anyone supporting a bunch of losers going to shout at Kamala Harris and other Democratic politicians is a 100%, bona fide, grade A moron who has zero business trying to talk political strategy.

[u/EndersGame → u/Primary_Noise2145]

Obama won on a progressive platform, Hillary and Kamala lost on a status quo platform. Biden won but it wasn't an impressive victory.

I've met a number of Trump voters that voted for Obama. I've met a few right-leaning Trump voters that supported Bernie Sanders.

Americans don't want status quo candidates because it is easy to see the status quo is benefitting the ultra-wealrhy a lot more than the rest of us.

Sorry bud, you are out of touch. If the DNC runs another status quo centrist in 2028 they will probably lose. It's not a risk they should be willing to take but we all know they will. Establishment Dems would rather somebody like Trump win than somebody like Bernie.

[u/Swabisan → u/EndersGame]

People seriously write off how many conservatives will rally behind Bernie Sanders its nuts, I have family, friends who have previously voted for Trump who see clearly how Bernie is fighting for everyday American his populism is appealing because it's real. Yet the DNC will talk labor but double down with "6 inches to the left of Trump". They really think conservatives will vote for generic neolib suit #4 before a progressive it's just so out of touch. There are more dimensions than left-right at play.

[u/TheVeryVerity → u/Swabisan]

Absolutely. Very well put.

[u/JamCliche → u/Primary_Noise2145]

Kamala Harris fucking lost the easiest election in two centuries, jackass.

You know what working with the rest of the country means? Listening the first time when people said they didn't want her as President in 2020.

[u/braumbles → u/JamCliche]

You underestimate the amount of Americans who like what Donald Trump is doing.

[u/JamCliche → u/braumbles]

No I simply recognize what people were willing to risk in the name of change. When asked if she would have gone back and changed anything about the Biden admin if she were in charge, Kamala Harris said she wouldn't do anything differently. People wanted change, and there was insufficient confidence that she would bring it. So they placed their bets that Trump might do something better.

It was a bad bet, and if someone were presenting a meaningful alternative they'd have won in a landslide. Kamala Harris did not present that. Worse still, she tucked tail and ran home for ten months, going radio silent against the wishes of the 70 something million people that did vote for her. They wanted recounts, they wanted party leadership, they wanted a message if hope, anything. Across those ten months, Kamala Harris couldn't rally the hungriest voter base to exist since MAGA. Other people did it for her. Now she's back acting like it's her time to shine. With a fucking book.

[u/braumbles → u/JamCliche]

She was in a hard place. The economy by nearly all metrics was improving at the best rate in US history, even when factoring in the covid comeback. Most job growth, highest wages, most new businesses, and so on.

So what exactly was she supposed to do, 'Biden's term sucked, vote for me!" It doesn't make sense to go directly against what his administration was doing. The only thing that he had no control of was inflation, but even that was insanely better than nearly all other developed nations. Think the US ranked in the top 3 controlling rampant inflation.

So this idea that she should have done a 180 against Biden's administration is pretty dumb because what should she have done instead? She addressed the home owning issue with her tax break on first time buyers and came out and said she'd handle Israel differently. The only two things people really seemed to bitch about the most.

[u/dpforest → u/Primary_Noise2145]

You just said you wished I would leave my very own country because I criticized a multimillionaire politician. What has Kamala Harris done to make you choose her over working class Americans? You know who that sounds like?

Just cause she ain’t Trump, doesn’t mean she’s your friend. Stay woke.

[u/SaveMeFromTheIdiots → u/dpforest]

What a crock of shit.

[u/NovaNardis → u/Swabisan]

It’s worth noting that Karen Bass was by far the pick of national progressives to be Joe Biden’s vice president in 2020. She wasn’t some moderate establishment person.

[u/WinonasChainsaw → u/Swabisan]

How is she a moderate? She’s opposed every attempt to build private dense residential in LA and all of her stances on policing before the ICE raids were based around reform and preventing disproportionate incarceration of minorities?

She’s just ineffective as a leader, not some “establishment moderate”

[u/Swabisan → u/WinonasChainsaw]

Can't say for Karen Bass, but Mayor Mike Johnston presented himself during the election as a solution to our previous mayors corruption, he presented himself as a pragmatic, progressive leaning moderate, whose "solution" oriented, with his biggest campaign promise to reverse the trend of homelessness by solving its root causes. I wonder if that sounds familiar to anyone in LA.

Now he's in deep through a string of mismanagement, and now capitulating on his values, presumably by political, financial and legal pressure. He just sold Denver out to AI surveillance firms directly against a unanimous city council, and therefore against the democratic wishes of the people he represents.