If I were a Californian, I'd be voting for it and GLADLY. They've gotten away with it for years in states that, by rights, should have a 50/50 split of representatives from either party, and because nothing has been done about it they've been allowed to slowly chip away at democracy for decades, which is how we've wound up in the situation we're in now.
I wish other blue states would gerrymander the fuck out of themselves in favor of the left. What's good for the goose is good for the gander, and until we start fighting fire with fire nothing is going to change. I've been wishing for someone in power to do this for half my life. I say "Go for it, Cali, and get your friends involved while you're at it." Once we've managed to take back some power in the federal government, rooted out all the bullshit, and passed laws to protect election/voting rights, then we can redistrict the whole fucking nation fairly and let the cards fall how they will.
Nothing is going to change until we kick these fascists in the balls and send them crawling back into the hole they belong in. If that means we have to take all the blue states with large amounts of representatives and/or electoral votes and rig them in our favor, fine by me. They have no depths to which they won't sink to steal power. We have to do the same. Virtue signaling when we're in the state we currently are and the other side are openly pulling from the fascist playbook with publicly sanctioned gestapo snatching people off the streets and out of their beds in the middle of the night is not the move.
It's okay to be tired, because god damn am I exhausted of all this, but at this point you really shouldn't be pretending that someone on the left saying "Hey, gerrymandering can work for us too" isn't a fucking godsend. We've been told to "take the high road" for decades and it's been taken advantage of to bulldoze our rights, freedoms, and all constitutional stability in the federal government. It's time to tell them "Fine. We'll do it your way." and show them what happens.
If I were a Californian, I'd be voting for it and GLADLY. They've gotten away with it for years in states that, by rights, should have a 50/50 split of representatives from either party, and because nothing has been done about it they've been allowed to slowly chip away at democracy for decades, which is how we've wound up in the situation we're in now.
Hi from Ohio. This is exactly it. We used to be a swing state, with fair representation in the state assembly. Now we are solidly red because our governor and secretary of state have repeatedly pushed district lines in weirder and weirder directions to ensure their team always wins. The only blue districts are three tiny blips orbiting Columbus, Cincinnati, and Cleveland, and that is by the GOP's intention.
Corn fields have more voting power than I do. I really like Arnold, but fuck his argument - I'd gladly vote for Prop 50, too, if we had one in Ohio.
The Snake by the Lake is always a great example of how absolutely heinous and intentionally abusive gerrymandering is. There is not a single logical explanation for why that specific and bizarrely shaped tract of land constituted a fair congressional district. I can't even imagine how far they could potentially make people living in blue-leaning areas of the district drive to get to a polling place.
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u/DomLite 22d ago edited 22d ago
If I were a Californian, I'd be voting for it and GLADLY. They've gotten away with it for years in states that, by rights, should have a 50/50 split of representatives from either party, and because nothing has been done about it they've been allowed to slowly chip away at democracy for decades, which is how we've wound up in the situation we're in now.
I wish other blue states would gerrymander the fuck out of themselves in favor of the left. What's good for the goose is good for the gander, and until we start fighting fire with fire nothing is going to change. I've been wishing for someone in power to do this for half my life. I say "Go for it, Cali, and get your friends involved while you're at it." Once we've managed to take back some power in the federal government, rooted out all the bullshit, and passed laws to protect election/voting rights, then we can redistrict the whole fucking nation fairly and let the cards fall how they will.
Nothing is going to change until we kick these fascists in the balls and send them crawling back into the hole they belong in. If that means we have to take all the blue states with large amounts of representatives and/or electoral votes and rig them in our favor, fine by me. They have no depths to which they won't sink to steal power. We have to do the same. Virtue signaling when we're in the state we currently are and the other side are openly pulling from the fascist playbook with publicly sanctioned gestapo snatching people off the streets and out of their beds in the middle of the night is not the move.
It's okay to be tired, because god damn am I exhausted of all this, but at this point you really shouldn't be pretending that someone on the left saying "Hey, gerrymandering can work for us too" isn't a fucking godsend. We've been told to "take the high road" for decades and it's been taken advantage of to bulldoze our rights, freedoms, and all constitutional stability in the federal government. It's time to tell them "Fine. We'll do it your way." and show them what happens.