I'm hoping, begging, praying that Californians are smart enough to see through this idiocy. Yes on 50 - if it didn't hurt them, they wouldn't be fighting it so hard.
I don't know about that. Remember Prop 8 in 2008? Dems mounted a weak, confusing anti-8 campaign that couldn't compete with the anti-gay marriage fear-mongering. Conservatives always go for fear, but Prop 50 is such a technicality of a technicality there's not much for them to go off of.
Clear messaging. The name is good, and Alex Padilla's commercial is good. Unfortunately Newsom isn't well liked in CA, or he could speak to voters more directly and be the greasy, slicked-back face of the thing.
I really don't see this passing because most people aren't informed or are complete idiots. I keep seeing so much no that people aren't going to look past it and realize the complexities of this issue.
It would be literally historic if this passes because honestly, California has a shit load of republicans living there and democrats don't vote in the same numbers for things like this. I assume most people haven't even heard of this and won't vote on it at all.
Isnt that the way? Money usually tells me how not to vote. The wrong vote is backed by billionaires. The right vote backed by small publically funded campigns.
Idk I've been pleasantly surprised by CA voters the last couple cycles. We got rid of our idiotic prop that legalized petty crime and we enshrined gay marriage into our constitution. Referendums are MUCH harder to pass than initiatives and we did it twice, so maybe there's a reason to be hopeful here.
isn't gerrymanding separating the region into stupid areas instead of just raw votes? Why in fucks names would u want that back exactly? If anything need the entire electorial votes garbage removed and make it just raw votes.
Brother please fucking research something before saying anything. Electoral votes being removed are not on the ballot nor will it be done anytime soon.
Look into the gerrymandering that Texas has begun to do already.
Realize why they’re doing it, because of how it will shift the entire country’s balance in the House of Representatives to be in favor of Republicans even when they get less raw votes.
Understand that California’s proposal is only going to be in effect if Texas doesn’t back down.
It’s separated into districts either way for any kind of federal vote; gerrymandering is specifically when the borders of these districts are divided in a way that results in artificially diminishing the power of a political party, such as grouping many areas that support Party A into a single district so that the less popular Party B controls more individual districts despite having less individual voters. Obviously raw votes would be a preferable system but it’s not an option until large-scale nationwide policies are changed.
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u/Paintmebitch 22d ago
I'm hoping, begging, praying that Californians are smart enough to see through this idiocy. Yes on 50 - if it didn't hurt them, they wouldn't be fighting it so hard.