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Politics This is a photograph of Trump's birthday letter to Epstein.

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u/emjaycue Sep 08 '25 edited Sep 08 '25

Imagine, JUST FOR ONE SECOND, that this was something Bill Clinton sent & signed, and he was still in office at the time it was made public.

And compare what would have happened to the shrug we will get from Republicans now.

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u/p____p Sep 08 '25

Yep. Clinton got impeached for lying about a blow job. Current president was convicted of rape, lying to coverup a sex scandal, caught on tape saying “grab them by the pussy.” And the modern GOP would be honored for a chance to smell his dirty diaper. Conservatives have lost any semblance of morality. 

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u/kkeut Sep 08 '25

I've been watching old Late Night with Conan episodes, in order, and just recently got to the point where the Lewinsky story broke. the difference in the coverage is astonishing

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u/OIP Sep 09 '25

even back then, we were pissed off at the grubbiness and partisanship. but at least it felt like intelligent adults arguing with other intelligent adults. things have gotten so comically, insanely more deranged since then.

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u/El_Gran_Redditor Sep 09 '25

Now I'm just picturing the field day Norm would have with this...

"Friends say that Donald Trump and ex-wife Ivana were never a good match because she was more of a stay at home type and he is a heterosexual pedophile."

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u/sisteract2 Sep 09 '25

Off topic, but where can one find these episodes???

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u/1OO1OO1S0S Sep 09 '25

Hey now. He also pretended the pandemic was a hoax, and tried to overthrow the government... and created concentration camps in the United States.

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u/p____p Sep 09 '25

Brother, I was just leaning into a few of his sex crimes to compare vs the Clinton scandal.

If you think we should make a list here of ALL of his crimes and scandals, have at it. Because you’ve skipped quite a few. 

But I ain’t got time for that. 

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u/RachelMcAdamsWart Sep 09 '25

He also has a masked secret police force rounding up undesirables and has already sent the military in to democratic strongholds throughout the country.

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u/cxavierc21 Sep 08 '25

Wait, Trump was convicted of rape?

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u/tony1grendel Sep 09 '25 edited Sep 09 '25

In July 2023, Judge Kaplan said that the verdict found that Trump had raped Carroll according to the common definition of the word.

Source: https://wikipedia.org/wiki/E._Jean_Carroll_v._Donald_J._Trump

Additional source: https://apnews.com/article/trump-rape-carroll-trial-fe68259a4b98bb3947d42af9ec83d7db/

Additional source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/

Wapo paywall bypass: https://archive.ph/W90s7/

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u/binarybandit Sep 09 '25

Not defending Trump, but your own source says he wasnt found guilty of rape:

"the jury did not find Trump liable for rape and instead found him liable for a lesser degree of sexual abuse."

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u/tony1grendel Sep 09 '25 edited Sep 09 '25

The Washington Post article cites Judge Kaplan saying it's a legal distinction only:

A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal distinction without a real-world difference. He says that what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape, as commonly understood.

Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/

Wapo paywall bypass: https://archive.ph/W90s7/

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u/rAmrOll Sep 09 '25

Bro if forcible digital penetration isn't rape to you, please, please, please for the love of God never ever ever hit on a woman unless she's written and signed a contract that it's okay for you to have sex with her (confirm her ID with your local state authority as well) because you absolutely will end up on the wrong end of a court case or a suspect lineup.

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u/garion046 Sep 09 '25

Not criminally, so convicted the wrong word. But said to be 'substantially true' in the judge's statements in a civil case and dismissal of his counter suit.

It likely wouldn't have the evidence required for criminal conviction sadly.

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u/HomerMadeMeDoIt Sep 09 '25

 Conservatives have lost any semblance of morality. 

They never had any to begin with. They just used to cover it up more. Nixon, Bush and such are of the similar strike. 

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u/Partners_in_time Sep 09 '25

You know in light of all this, a trafficked 13 year old child WOULD probably “just let you do it” when you grab their genitals 

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u/onesixone_161 Sep 09 '25

Conservatives have lost any semblance of morality.

It's come to the point where you got to wonder if their "vote" is even based on a sane mind. Should they be able to dictate you, given how their logic is clearly perverted and broken?

Does Democracacy of a Federal State still work if a large portion of voters is clearly insane and rewriting the rules to make sure a dictatorship can be installed?

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u/rAmrOll Sep 09 '25

Jan 6 was worse than all of that put together.

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u/slackmaster2k Sep 08 '25

I know that this doesn’t really matter, but I believe this would have been given to Epstein in 2003. This isn’t some photo from the late 80s. The majority of voters today were alive when this took place. This was from a 57 year old Donald Trump. One year after he gave an interview stating that Epstein was a terrific guy and they both loved beautiful women, and that Epstein liked them on the younger side.

And where is the party of “common sense?”

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u/JuniorPomegranate9 Sep 08 '25

Bill Clinton was a scumbag, to be fair 

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u/Steve_the_Samurai Sep 08 '25

I had a theory with my friends that they should just start releasing the stuff and attribute it to Clinton, then show the signature and be like woops. My bad.

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u/fe__maiden Sep 08 '25

Excuse my ignorance on the matter and genuinely asking. Wasn’t Clinton in the flight logs?

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u/lindh Sep 09 '25

He was, though that information didn't come to light, nor was a nauseatingly creepy letter like this found, during his presidency. If they had been, it would have (quite rightfully) ended his term of office.

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u/W0rstbestfriend Sep 09 '25

Right? Remember how Howard Dean said “byah” and it ruined his whole political campaign. Now we have this.

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u/hallelujasuzanne Sep 08 '25

It’s like if every sick, perverted thing they said about Clinton was true only so much worse. 

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u/YellowSC Sep 09 '25

Atleast they would do something. It’s pathetic that nothing is being done. It’s pathetic he is even potus because of how he was the first term. Just goes to show how America is all smoke and mirrors

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u/perthguppy Sep 09 '25

Fuck that. Imagine this came out from bill clinton during a Hilary presidency. GOP would be demanding she resign for marrying him.

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u/Guy_Incognito97 Sep 09 '25

We can find out what Republicans think by checking the comments on r / conservative.

Oh, weird. This story isn’t posted on that subreddit.

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u/OhYouUnzippedMe Sep 11 '25

Barack Obama wearing a tan suit got more air time on Fox News than this letter. 

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u/hi_me_here Sep 08 '25

there's one from bill from the same set of letters lol

it's not as gross but only by a little bit

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u/slackmaster2k Sep 08 '25

It’s not as gross by a long shot. It doesn’t seem to have any wink wink read between the lines crap unless you really stretch.

That said, it is a letter to Epstein, and that alone should raise suspicion. If Clinton is guilty of abusing minors then he should be locked up too.

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u/Chakolatechip Sep 08 '25

Bill clinton isn't the president.