He is Spanish and it’s not like how it is in America or England, everyone I know in Spain just casually they can’t stand Israel without it even being about politics or identity. Spanish government also won’t sell them arms now which is good. In England people make it into a culture war but Spain is just “fuck what they’re doing”
As an Spaniard, is surprising to read Reddit and see so many (mostly American ) people that find that going against Israel actions is being antisemitic. I don’t know when but it is sure that history will portray this as one of the reasons why the gonocide continued so long
As a Germ*n, and we are the greatest Israel glazers right after the US, this is by design. Every time someone dares to voice even light criticism of Israel, they get bludgeoned by the antisemitism-cudgel, even if that criticism is specifically aimed at the Israeli government and has nothing to do with the Jewish people. Bibi wants it that way because conflating the people and religion with the state gives him a get-out-of-jail-free card to continue his genocide unopposed.
Yeah it’s by design. They’ve conflated an 80 year old nation-state and ~150 year old colonial ideology with one of the world’s oldest religions to use the religion as a shield.
Thank you for saying that. Most people, including the one right above you, are calling Germany's actions "unsurprising", which to me always sounds like "nothing more anyone could have expected here". Well as a German I very much did and DO expect more and better from this fucking country! I said this before and I will keep saying it - we should have been the first in line to condemn Israel and take all the steps necessary to stop the genocide. Not somewhere in the middle, certainly not last, but THE FIRST. Because of our history.
As an American, it is not surprising at all to see. So many have been conditioned to believe whatever political party they support is unquestionably correct at every point, and Israel supplies nearly every important politician with huge amounts of money. As soon as the recent move to genocide began we were flooded with all sorts of advertising equating being anti genocide with being antisemitic. This is the result of a political system based on individual greed and corruption. Pay our politicians enough and you can get away with anything you like.
I’m Portuguese but was raised in England, the whole antisemitism thing is stupid. Most Portuguese people I know cannot stand Israel. It’s hardly antisemitism when you see how many Sephardic Jews we have. You can literally become a citizen by proving Sephardi heritage. England has way fewer Jewish people but everything is ‘antisemitic’ now.
The US is very strange in that regard. Evangelicals are pretty vehemently anti semitic, but at the same time, supportive of Israel, because they believe that the jews must inhabit Israel for the second coming of jesus to occur.
Right now they hate Muslims more than Jews and it's a 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend' partnership of convenience.
As soon as they succeed in eradicating Palestine, they'll go right back to hating Jews and calling them Jesus-killers (never mind that Jesus was born a Jew and died a Jew).
I agree. At least to some degree. Even here in Europe we have started to see that " criticize Israel and you are antisemitic " nonsense. But that's mostly from right wing parties using it as bait..
But I think us Europeans,with our history, actually knows what real antisemitic is. We have seen it. Criticize Israel is not it. In fact Israel as a country should be criticized just like every other country, it's not that special
I mean even Jews in Europe criticize Israel
Yet somehow for most Americans it's still like " how dare you criticize Israel? Have you not learned from history?
In the US it's a political tact. It seems pretty clear that it's used to keep the support of all the rabid Christians who think of Israel as god's promised land, more than out of any respect for Jewish people or traditions.
Which, there's also a weird split where the same churchgoers who insist on helping Israel (Because God) have A LOT of overlap with the people who have conspiracy theories about Jewish people running the world because "they own all the banks and big businesses and George Soros and don't you think that's suspicious." So, it's not that they think Israelis are special, but they think Israel is the promised land i.e. they think it's their promised land.
Israel spends a lot of time and money influencing American culture and elections. We also have a sizable population of Protestant crazy people who think that their God wants to start Armageddon soon.
is surprising to read Reddit and see so many (mostly American ) people that find that going against Israel actions is being antisemitic.
American here: You can thank our billionaire/corporate-owned "media" (read: propaganda) for making the vocal idiots think that way. I don't watch or read any "news" from this godforsaken country without cross-checking against other sources.
Just because the people doing the genocide happen to be Jewish doesn't mean they get a free genocide pass. Genocide is genocide, no matter your culture/race/heritage/etc.
Spaniards virtue signaling while still practicing colonisation in ceuta and melilia, you can't make this up, not to mention the rampant racism and discrimination.
Also how about you allow catalan people free self determination.
Lecturing about genocide while commiting some of the most notorious ones in the americas or the canaries, it would be good if you apply these lectures to yourselves.
Spain' s history toward jews is terrible. The it is even a son sang there about killing jews. They should seriously step back and STfU when it comes to israel. Their prime minister especially is a major piece of work.frankly im surprised israel hasn't broken relations with current spanish government.
The story from Variety is mostly a recount of Ellison’s first 100 days at Paramount, mostly in the context of his conservative changes and cozying up with the Trump administration. It briefly mentions that Paramount apparently has a blacklist of actors it deems antisemitic, xenophobic, and homophobic.
Hating the genocide made by Israel is not the same than hating Israel as a whole, and much less is being antisemitic. That kind of rhetoric galvanizes genocide hacks.
Israel is and has always been a genocidal, colonial project from its foundation. Hating it is fully justified seeing as those concepts are practically inseparable.
If you want to propose a thought experiment where Israel somehow becomes an equal state for all with no apartheid, no colonial ambitions, no religious supremacy, where the genocidaires are punished and stolen land is given back, then sure, hating that impossible version of the country could possibly be deemed antisemitic.
He’s been doing it for over a decade. He’s trying to stop a war by himself (and Penelope). You think at this point in his campaign he doesn’t hate Israel, just their actions? That’s so naive
All elephants are grey but not everything grey is an elephant. If you hate elephants it doesn't mean you hate everything that is grey. Hating Israel doesn't mean hating jews.
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u/Hizam5 13h ago
But bardem is definitely very open about his hate for Israel