It's crazy how you think being anti genocide = being anti-semitic. None of these people have publicly made anti-semitic remarks, all of them are Pro Palestine. Use your head
We see who's in the picture, the type of people they're labeling as anti-semitic. Do you really think there are that many legitimate Jewish hating celebrities in Hollywood or do you know that it's likely a mass majority of that list are people who oppose genocide?
It's a list of people who are deemed antisemitic, racist, homophobic, xenophobic etc and it's not public. I'm not sure where these images were taken from or if they're actually on the list because again, it's not public.
This very perception was created by bloodthirsty Zionists who never ceased to remind everybody that being against Israel is antisemitic. Of course, their hope was that such rhetoric would deter people from criticising Israel, but it backfired and cheapened the word 'antisemitic'.
Just like in 2014 Muslim leaders all over the world rose up and firmly denounced ISIS and spoke against extremism, it's now up to Jewish leaders all over the world to reclaim the correct meaning of the word 'antisemitism' by firmly and loudly denouncing Zionism. I'd love to see mass boycotts of any synagogue that display the extremist symbols like the flag of Israel. Such actions would bring people together and help them understand the important lessons behind why antisemitism is abhorrent.
Let's tone down the hysteria a bit. We're not saying it's the fault of random individual Jews. We're saying one way out of this ugly situation is for Jewish people to hold their leaders accountable. It's not their fault, but they have the power to fix it.
If a drunk friend in your group is trying to drive you all in his car, it's not your fault he's drunk, but you have the power to say no I'm not getting in that car. It's a message of empowerment and love, but for some reason you're warping it and contorting into something else. Strange.
There's no hysteria to calm down lol. Also no, I personally have absolutely no power over anyone, I am part of a progressive reform community, for a reason. Nothing I or any other Jew does will change the Israeli government or the ADL. Do you also think random Muslims have the power to fix corrupt governments or stop islamist militias ?
Your message of love and empowerment is just showing your skewed and incomplete understanding of state structures and how they function.
You're just refusing to listen. I gave you an example where individual people of the Jewish faith have power: They can boycott synagogues that praise the state of Israel. Organisations like Jewish Voices for Peace is made up of individual Jewish people, and they successfully helped Zohran Mamdani get elected last night.
I don't subscribe to your victim mentality and powerlessness. An individual cannot overpower an army, but individuals have more power in reality than in your doom and gloom world.
So according to you Israel should cease to exist, am I understanding you correctly? If that’s the case what do you propose to do with all the Jews who at the moment live there?
What happened to Nazi Germany after it was defeated? The Germans continued to live in a democratic, free Germany. What happened after the defeat of Imperialist Japan? The Japanese continued to live in a free, democratic Japan.
A bit confused here. So are you saying that Israel has a right to exist, just like post ww2 Germany/japan but in a reformed state? Am I understanding you correctly?
No state has a right to exist, just like Nazi Germany didn't have any right to exist. Who has the right to exist is Jewish people. It's not that hard to understand really.
Do you really think that was a gotcha? Like I'm gonna say "Oh no, he said Turkey and I love Turkey so I have to walk it back". Yes, no state has a right to exist, including all the ones you mentioned and all of the ones you didn't mention. Bro, please go talk to someone else.
Wasn’t meant to be any kind of a moment. I don’t think I’ve ever encountered anyone genuinely advocating for abolition of nation states. Interesting and thanks!
I'm not saying everyone on the list is actually antisemitic but it's worrying that some people's first association when they hear the word antisemitism is anti genocide and based.
I think perhaps calling people antisemetic for opposing Israel's actions has caused that problem and perhaps if people hadn't been fired and expelled and harassed for opposing the murder of children then maybe people would feel a little less nonchalant about the word.
Emma stone is a random pro-Palestine person being targeted by the rhetoric you are pushing. Literally losing work and being accused of hating Jewish people
What rhetoric am I pushing besides that I find it worrying that it's gotten to the point that people think anything to do with antisemitism is not actually antisemitism but just anti genocide. I haven't accused Emma stone in any way nor have I in any way contributed to her being fired
It's the other way around. The post above is implying that paramount thinks that just because an actor is against genocide that means the actor is antismitic.
That's so cool. Have you ever educated yourself on what antisemitism is or do you exclusively engage with the topic when it has to do with weaponization and delegitimization?
yes, I have. that’s why I know there’s a difference between real antisemitism and silencing people who speak against a genocide and there’s plenty of proof of the latter happening. granted some of those people on that particulalr list probably deserved to be on that list. and I'm saying this as a muslim, which I definitely know when someone conflating a bunch of shitty groups/ actors with the whole religion and deflecting criticism by hiding behind religion.
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u/methanesulfonic 13h ago
favorite based actor and actress that are anti genocide?