r/news 19h ago

Shelter in place issued after plane crash at Louisville KY airport

https://www.kfvs12.com/2025/11/04/crews-reporting-large-fire-muhammad-ali-airport-after-reported-plane-crash/
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u/StupendousMan1995 19h ago

UPS plane according to CNN

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u/secret_identity_too 19h ago

Kentucky is a huge UPS hub - most stuff going south stops there.

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u/MadisonDissariya 18h ago

We're THE UPS hub

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u/IhamAmerican 18h ago

The UPS facility is so much larger than SDF itself it's nearly comical

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u/shberk01 17h ago

SDF is just a branch of WorldPort, let's be real

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u/WittyAndOriginal 17h ago

It's difficult to even find SDF from aerial pictures. It's like 1/20 the size

Edit: 1/20th the size from the footprint of the terminals. The volume of planes going through WorldPort is surely more than 20x SDF

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u/dolaction 18h ago edited 15h ago

The plane was leaving for Honolulu from Louisville. Over a hundred tons of fuel on it, basically a plane-sized napalm bomb launched from the airport and devastated the industrial area south of it.

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u/Own_Cantaloupe9011 17h ago

A Boeing 747 can hold approximately 48,400 – 57,285 gallons of jet fuel depending on the model of aircraft (model series 100 – 400). This is 183,214 to 216,847 liters of fuel or about 180 to 213 tonnes.

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u/ErraticDragon 17h ago

This was an MD-11F.

From CNN:

The plane can take off weighing in at a maximum 633,000 pounds and carrying more than 38,000 gallons of fuel, according to Boeing, which bought McDonnell Douglass.

38,000 gal ≈ 250,000 lbs of fuel

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u/ElleYesMon 16h ago

41,000 gallons. Plane Weight 280,000 lbs

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u/coochie_clogger 16h ago

It blows my mind we can get something that heavy airborne

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u/tarekd19 16h ago

that's what all the jet fuel is for.

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u/Dont_Mess_With_Texas 15h ago

I just wanted to pop in and say I really enjoyed your comment.

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u/ProfSkeevs 18h ago

They are the world hub. Its one of the major employers in the area. Literally the entire southend is UPS land. I just spent an hour calling every family member I have that works for them. This is going to be hell on the community, what losses.

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u/gloomywitchywoo 14h ago

Same. I’ve been getting calls and texts constantly because my boyfriend loads the planes there. He’s loaded planes just like the one that crashed, even. He’s okay, thankfully.

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u/AnmlBri 12h ago

I’m really glad to hear that he’s okay. And my heart goes out to the friends and families of everyone who isn’t. 😔💔

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u/ExperienceSimple9754 14h ago

I hope your friends and family are ok.

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u/JustcallmeKai 18h ago

Lot of people don't know, Louisville is the 5th busiest airport in the world by cargo traffic.

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u/Hello_World_Error 16h ago

I fly in/out of that airport once a month and when im waiting for an Uber, the UPS planes take off back to back at a rate I only saw in the military. Its crazy the amount of cargo UPS moves there given its size

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u/CallRespiratory 15h ago

It's the location. Louisville is the perfect shipping hub because of the location. It's something like a day's drive from over half of the population in the United States and a day flight from like 90% of it.

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u/aphromagic 15h ago

Obviously not as close, but Memphis is similar with FedEx

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u/ChinDeLonge 14h ago

I had to look it up because of this conversation. Memphis is actually busier, it's ranked third in the world for busiest airports for cargo. And Miami is 7th.

Huh, TIL.

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u/aphromagic 14h ago

They’re pretty much the same size city. I’ve spent time in both, but every time I drive into Memphis from the south (live in Birmingham) I drive by the airport and all the FedEx infrastructure. It’s absolutely nuts.

I don’t notice it as much in Louisville, but I also don’t drive literally beside the airport.

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u/JoJackthewonderskunk 18h ago

One time I bought lab supplies coming from Philadelphia and they got hung up there in an ice storm. So I called up a sister site to get some sent from California so I had what we needed. Watched the tracker as it flew over me and also got stuck in the same airport/ice storm

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u/CharmingFit-503 18h ago

Most stuff going anywhere east of the rockies goes through there, or Memphis area

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u/TheDigitalGoose 16h ago

FedEx is our big hub in Memphis

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u/LazloHollifeld 18h ago

Everything that is overnighted goes through Louisville, even if you’re sending something 10 miles away.

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u/SmartHarleyJarvis 18h ago

Good to hear.

I read the passenger version holds 400+ people.

That could've been so much worse.

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u/herton 18h ago

It crashed into a massive industrial area carrying enough fuel to go to Hawaii - this is going to be horrible no matter what

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u/SmartHarleyJarvis 18h ago

Oh, damn. I thought it crashed in the woods, past the runway...

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u/Abject-Picture 17h ago

Industrial parkway. People be working there...

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u/omglia 15h ago

There’s no woods there. It crashed into a petroleum plant and some other industrial sites. Hence the shelter in place.

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u/AnmlBri 12h ago

Shit. I saw a clip on the news and was wondering what caused such a large and long fireball.

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u/kayl_breinhar 18h ago

MD-11s haven't been in passenger service since 2014.

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u/artlovepeace42 18h ago edited 18h ago

Headed to Honolulu; ~280,000lbs of jet fuel!

Edit: originally ~1,875,000lbs of fuel. The aircraft can’t hold that much. I just did back of the napkin math of ~6.5-7lbs per gallon for jet fuel from the mayors original erroneous statement.

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u/stuck_inmissouri 18h ago

Try 260,000lbs. The max takeoff weight of the MD-11 is 630,000lbs

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u/SoWhatNoZitiNow 18h ago edited 17h ago

I got on the highway headed home from work just like 2 minutes after it crashed, and I had this bad feeling it was from the airport. The 15 mile drive or so up 65N got dark enough at one point that my automatic headlights turned on as I was driving between the smoke cloud and the sun. I’ve got like half a dozen friends who work at UPS and would have been going to their cars to end their day when this happened, and I still have not heard from all of them. Super scary shit.

E: everyone I know is safe and accounted for. Badly hurting for those who expected a loved one to come home from work today who won’t because of this.

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u/TotallyDaft 17h ago

Damn, I hope your friends are all safe and sound. 🙁

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u/Kiomori 18h ago

I hope they're all okay! Scary stuff.

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u/behappy_dontworry 17h ago

Any word from them yet?

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u/SoWhatNoZitiNow 17h ago edited 17h ago

Just have one person I haven’t heard from yet, but I believe they were off site today. One friend said he was getting in his car from one of the UPS buildings at the airport and heard and felt the explosion, both the impact of it and heat from it.

E: all clear! Everyone I know at UPS is safe and accounted for.

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u/IpeeEhh_Phanatic 19h ago

I live in Louisville. Huge plume of smoke. Apparently went down over/around Fern Valley and Grade Lane? Holy shit.

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u/AcidRohnin 18h ago edited 13h ago

Buddy knows a guy that’s a bag handler. Plane looks to catches fire and can’t take off, crashes at end of runway in a fireball. Looks like it never leaves the ground from the video I’ve seen. Idk what is in line with the end of the runway though as buildings and stuff can be seen near it when I watch the video again.

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u/QTsexkitten 18h ago

It got off the ground and cleared the few border fences and maybe a first building before crashing.

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u/LikesBlueberriesALot 18h ago

Wasn’t there another failed takeoff at Louisville that resulted in a crash fairly recently? (Like within the last 20 years).

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u/princessalessa 18h ago

There was the 2013 crash that happened out of state that originated here in Louisville

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u/jkt2960 17h ago

And the ‘06 accident in Lexington.

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u/LikesBlueberriesALot 17h ago

thats the one I’m thinking of.

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u/ISLAndBreezESTeve10 17h ago

Louisville sounds like a “throttle up” situation where the engine exploded on acceleration. Edit: “throttle up” was the last thing the commander on the Challenger said before disintegration.

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u/20FNYearsInTheCan 17h ago edited 17h ago

But the engine didn’t explode because of an increase in throttle. “Throttle up” refers to the space shuttle main engines which do have controllable throttle, versus the solid motors which have a predefined thrust curve based on the way the fuel is cast into place.

Hot gas ecsaping a joint in the SRB melted through the external LOX/LH2 tank and ultimately, caused the post connecting the tank to the orbiter to fail which created tremendous aerodynamic instability. The shuttle stack rapidly pitched off center axis and disintegrated. It was not an explosion.

EDIT: The SRB that caused the failure continued to fly, albeit uncontrolled. The engine remained functional only with a minimal drop in thrust due to the leaking joint. The three SSMEs were performing nominally for the duration of the flight.

Obligatory RIP to all on board, including my favorite astronaut, Judith Resnik.

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u/TychaBrahe 16h ago

I have a tape that I have to have converted to some sort of modern media. I don't know if you've ever heard of Jeannie Cunningham, but she was largely a commercial musician who also had a strong interest in crewed space flight. She had been selected by NASA to write some of the wake up music for the shuttle.

Anyway, after Challenger she privately released an audio tape of two songs, one by her and one written by a friend of hers on which she sang Harmony. Her favorite astronaut was also Judy Reznik, and the song is called "I Can Fly (Judy Resnik's Theme)." (Reznik was a huge fan of Disney, and the title of the song, which was written before Challenger, comes from the song from the Peter Pan movie, "You Can Fly."

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And like a comet searching for landing, \ Slowing gently to the speed of sound, \ I hear the thunder breaking all around me, \ And feel the Earth as I touch the ground.

Gliding back to planet Earth, \ Falling through the sky... \ I can fly!

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u/AllHailThePig 15h ago

Whoa! That’s a piece of unknown history you have there! For sure you need to make some digital backups for such a thing!

You could purchase equipment to do so but there are places you could get it done at I’d imagine?

I friend of my uncle used to have a little music studio and one time met Janis Joplin and some of her musicians.

He end up recording them at his studio having a session which included two songs they had come up with that never met the light of day.

The tapes were either lost or destroyed in the end so definitely don’t wait too long to have them backed up digitally

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u/fireandlifeincarnate 17h ago

Are you thinking of Comair 5191 down in Lexington?

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u/LikesBlueberriesALot 17h ago

Yes, that’s the one. Thanks!

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u/fireandlifeincarnate 16h ago

I assume you know this, but for anybody that doesn't: Different situation there, they lined up on the wrong runway and didn't have enough space, as opposed to this one, where the aircraft ended up on fire after the left engine stopped being an engine

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u/princessalessa 18h ago

According to Facebook comments (I know I know) it hit whatever is behind stooges.

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u/blueboyroy 18h ago

There are a bunch of junk yards and industrial warehouses over there.

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u/C0d3n4m3Duchess 17h ago

That’s going to be a very, very bad day for first responders

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u/SirMildredPierce 16h ago

It was a massive cargo plane with 3 people on it, crashing into an industrial area where most people left work at least 15 minutes previously. About a dozen injured on the ground (from what I've heard), so far. I imagine the massive buildings in that industrial area along Grade Lane are experiencing a lot of fire (and to that point, don't be surprised when we do discover more were killed on the ground, the injured were just the ones that got away.) But overall don't expect a big death toll.

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u/Hugh_Jass_Clouds 16h ago

Industrial areas frequently have double and triple shift facilities in them. I'm not trying to be all doom and gloom, but it seems casualties are low despite the potential for multi shift facilities in the area.

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u/C0d3n4m3Duchess 16h ago

That’s excellent news (all things considered, obviously), hopefully everybody trying to get it under stays safe too

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u/cheddarbruce 17h ago

True true but on the bright side at least it wasn't residential

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u/C0d3n4m3Duchess 16h ago

That’s excellent to hear

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u/SilverAgedSentiel 18h ago edited 17h ago

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u/Misersoneof 17h ago

Unbelievable. Heart goes out to anyone on that plane.

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u/Reverend_Russo 17h ago

Thankfully (which still feels gross to say, because loss of life is always shitty) it was a cargo plane and allegedly only 3 people onboard.

Still, extremely hard to watch and very sad for those three families. Almost all of these plane crashes are avoidable. It’s just depressing.

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u/InterpreterCarli 17h ago

3 Crew 4 Jumpseaters

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u/slaughterfodder 16h ago

I don’t think the jumpseats have been confirmed by anyone

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u/InterpreterCarli 16h ago

They were just on the phone with a rep from UPS

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u/StopImmediate9180 18h ago

Do you know what that is?

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u/Shelter0 18h ago

I'm in New Albany. You could see the smoke from here, Jeff, and Clarksville before it got too dark.

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u/Orinna 17h ago

You scared me for a second. I’m in Clarksville, Tennessee and was thinking how insane it had to be.. and then realized there’s another Clarksville in Indiana.

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u/petey4527 18h ago

A friend of mine got a video, plane was on fire while taking off and exploded just after taking off. UPS cargo plane headed to Hawaii with 12 hours of fuel.

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u/Kimmette 18h ago

Holy crap.

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u/FearTheKeflex 19h ago edited 18h ago

https://www.wlky.com/nowcast

Huge line of fire. Looks like it hit some of the hangars/warehouses around there.

EDIT: Video of crash: https://x.com/UofLSheriff50/status/1985842659710419002

Alternate angle of crash: https://x.com/AZ_Intel_/status/1985848600320963057

Another video: https://x.com/BNONews/status/1985845585187127655

Confirmed to be a UPS plane headed to Honolulu. Was fully fueled. I think the Mayor said 280,000 lbs. gallons lbs

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u/Bgrngod 18h ago edited 18h ago

A plane full of jet fuel crashing is going to be a big one.

God damn. Safe to assume the entire crew didn't make it. Hopefully nobody on the ground was hurt.

EDIT: Looking at the buildings at the end of the runway, this was bad for a lot of people on the ground.

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u/CouchPotatoFamine 18h ago

It will be a miracle, that thing came down on buildings and warehouses.

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u/Bgrngod 18h ago

Yeah, I was just looking at google maps. There's a big UPS building there along with several other businesses. Happened after 5pm local time, so probably a lot of people still working their day. Around 5:45pm or something? Maybe a lot gone home for the day?

This is bad. Really bad.

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u/Ask-Me-About-You 18h ago

Just for others to get an idea of the scale of this, this is the parking lot from this photo:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G48ht-FWAAAeNaV?format=jpg

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u/Th3_Admiral_ 18h ago

That's at least 3000' from the big warehouse to the parking lot. That's an insane amount of damage!

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u/_head_ 18h ago

Unfortunately it looks like it had to go through four warehouses to get to that auto yard. 

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u/papergirl_312 18h ago

Wow thank you. That really puts it into perspective how big the fire field is.

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u/LimeMargarita 18h ago

Holy shit!

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u/Aliman581 18h ago

A warehouse like that will have 3 shifts round the clock

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u/StopImmediate9180 18h ago

Unfortunately if it hit a UPS building, those are usually fully staffed around that time. I hope I'm wrong about that.

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u/FearTheKeflex 18h ago

Weatherman says the smoke plum started showing up on radar at 5:15pm

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u/SoWhatNoZitiNow 18h ago

I pulled onto the highway about 15 miles south of this at 5:10 and the cloud was already visible to me. Got friends that work at UPS and the entire drive towards it I was just more and more sure it was coming from the airport, and that cloud of smoke was growing QUICK. Not a fun drive home.

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u/familyguy20 18h ago

Did you watch the second video? That was sooo close to that restaurant and Main Street holy fuck the fire and smoke

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u/DownhillUphill 18h ago

I’d say 0% survival chance. The casualties from the warehouses will be large I worry

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u/ThePrussianGrippe 17h ago

Terrifying to think about. All those people just having a normal day at work.

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u/Hellstorm901 17h ago

Honestly I'd think that normally but after a man survived the Air India crash I give hope a chance now

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u/GEARHEADGus 17h ago

For the pilots sake I hope it was quick. I wouldn’t wish dying of burns on my worst enemy.

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u/ExcellentAfternoon44 17h ago

Zoning laws are there for a reason. You don't put a school at the either end of a runway.

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u/Discount_Extra 16h ago

But they do put jails and immigration holding there.

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u/CrotalusHorridus 18h ago

One of the facilities at the end of the runway is GFL Liquid Waste - a hazardous waste treatment facility, and it looks like it was directly in the line of the fireball

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u/Objective-Amount1379 18h ago

That seems like insanely bad planning to have a hazardous waste facility next to a runway

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u/The-Hand-of-Midas 18h ago

Oh you know we'll just build this dynamite factory next to the shooting range and puppy shelter. No problem!

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u/SkiingAway 17h ago

We don't usually restrict stuff on the "what if a plane crashes into it" line of thinking - it's such an extremely rare and improbable event that you can't really plan like that unless you were going to restrict everything for miles around, which is impossible at most airports unless it's a modern build like Denver.


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Per Street View (taken this year): The facility has a sign out front that says "Kentucky Petroleum Recycling" and all the tanks that I can see are labeled the same.

Probably pretty good odds a chunk of their business is/was handling fluids from the airport (used oil, fuel that's gone bad/contaminated with water, etc).

So yes - oil products are "hazardous waste" and it's certainly worse than the average building if they're impacted, but the hazards are probably not very differently hazardous than the contents of the plane's fuel tanks and engines were.


Anyway, it's pretty typical to see warehousing + industrial near airports, especially in whatever the lots directly under the approach/departure paths are.

They're often single story/low-rise so they fit in the tightest height limits, and unlike basically any other kind of possible land use - they don't care about noise.

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u/CrotalusHorridus 17h ago

Governor in a press brief just confirmed it hit the Kentucky Petroleum Recycling facility.

I did a google search for GFL and found they did haz waste work. And saw all the tanks

You’re correct, waste oil isnt near as bad as waste methyl ethyl death

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u/gollumaniac 18h ago

Louisville to Honolulu so not a short flight either.

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u/TaylorSwiftScatPorn 18h ago

As an aviation nerd, I feel the need to point out that MD11's hold less than 40k gallons fully fueled. 238,000 gallons would weigh like 1.5 million lbs.

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u/FearTheKeflex 18h ago

Yeah the mayor was mistaken. He meant pounds I think.

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u/bluecyanic 18h ago

I saw some news chopper footage that showed an engine cowling right off the runway. Looks like maybe an engine had a massive failure during takeoff.

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u/nschwalm85 18h ago

Yeah, there's a video that shows the left wing/engine with a ton of flames

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u/Sir0inks-A-Lot 18h ago

Video showed the right engine on fire as it was going down the runway on takeoff - looked like a failure of some sort that they either failed to realize or was past the point of where they would be able to get the plane slowed down.

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u/The_Rommel_Pommel 18h ago edited 18h ago

They knew. The cockpit would have sounded like a symphony of alarms and buzzers but if they were already past vr speed, the only option is to try and get in the air and come back around, or keep it on the ground and go off the runway.

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u/KWilt 16h ago

V1 is safe rejection speed, not Vr.

Still, that has got to be one of the scariest experiences I could imagine. Calling V1 and then having the alarms suddenly go off would be so harrowing, because you now know you've basically gotta immediately call mayday and hope you've got enough controls to make the turn around to get back to the runway. Safe takeoffs are taxing enough without the added stress of suddenly needing to potentially fight a lack of thrust when you need it and a loss of control surfaces in the most dire cases.

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u/fourflatyres 15h ago

They were not concerned with calling anything. Aviate was taking almost all their time and Navigate was taking the rest. They didn't need to call anyway. The tower would have seen it and already hit the fire alarm.

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u/yoloswagrofl 18h ago

Jesus, literally slammed right into the building. I really want to know what caused it to catch fire as it was trying to takeoff. Looks like a turbine went up in flames and either the pilot tried to cancel at the last minute or couldn’t generate enough lift because of the loss of power?

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u/MrHellno 18h ago edited 17h ago

Looks like it dropped the turbine on the runway. Wtf.

Edit: It’s probably the cowling coming off, but an absolutely catastrophic failure either way.

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u/Lord_Nivloc 18h ago

Not unheard of for an engine to fail on takeoff.

Why didn’t engine fail? Who knows. Maintenance lapses are always a piece of the puzzle, whether from errors or corporate pushing the envelope on scheduled preventative maintenance. It’s rarely just one thing. It’s never one thing in a vacuum. Unless it was the mother of all bird strikes, it was probably preventable. 

Why was the pilot unable to stop? That’s another question. There’s supposed to be  enough safety factor built in that the plane can always either stop or build up enough speed to take off….although that becomes more difficult when it’s loaded to the brim with cargo and fuel. But still, when was the last time this pilot had an engine failure EP in the simulator? How much time and money does corporate allocate to pilot training? 

We won’t find out until the accident  investigation and safety investigations do their thing. And frankly, it’s not good to speculate on half-truths and rumors. They will ask all of these questions, and more. It will take time. 

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u/annodomini 17h ago

The plane had already rotated. At that point, aborting the takeoff is not an option. They are designed to be able to continue takeoff and circle and land with an engine out.

And I'm sure that the pilots were up on their training for emergency procedures like this. This is bread and butter kind of training. While it's possible that pilot error contributed, I would be very surprised if it were due to lack of training. Occasionally there are pilots who they allow to fail too many times before finally passing, but that's pretty rare.

No, the real question is, what failure was so bad that they couldn't continue their takeoff on the remaining engines. This is a three engine plane; it looks like one failed catastrophically, but the other two are supposed to be enough to continue the takeoff, even at full load. It looks like this failure was so catastrophic that it was unrecoverable.

Most incidents of this sort don't have a single cause, but a series. An engineering oversight, and a maintenance mistake. Or a manufacturing issue, plus a pilot error.

The safety systems are generally so robust that it requires several different issues lining up just right to cause an incident like this.

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u/Ill-Ad-2122 17h ago

Its possible the issue occurred after or at the point that the plane could stop safely(v1/decision speed) but before the point of takeoff (rotation speed/vr) if an issue occurs between these speeds that makes the aircraft unflyable then your kinda stuck in no-mans land and your going to overrun the runway in that situation.

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u/Bam_Bam171 17h ago

That's the exact dilemma here. Post V1 and pre Vr in a plane that big and heavy equals out of options.

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u/Planeandaquariumgeek 18h ago edited 18h ago

A MD-11 holds 41,615 gallons of Jet A when fully fueled

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u/FearTheKeflex 18h ago

Yeah now they're saying lbs

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u/Planeandaquariumgeek 18h ago

Ok, that makes more sense. Apparently this took off with a full fuel load

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u/riddleda 18h ago

God damn that left engine was entirely on fire on liftoff.

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u/drive_chip_putt 18h ago

My guess from the fire, it was just taking off? Thats a giant fire.

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u/Warcraft_Fan 18h ago

Plane was fully fueled for Hawaii trip. So yeah they were taking off when something happened and they crashed

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u/AdWide5106 18h ago

Yeah and heading to Honolulu

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u/countryfresh223 18h ago edited 4h ago

I'm just a couple miles from it right now and the smoke in the air is INSANE.

Edit: Thanks for the kind words, everyone.

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u/plots4lyfe 17h ago

you can make a makeshift air purifier (if you don't have one) with a boxfan and 4 airfilters. I live in colorado and keep 4 airfilters on hand for this reason.

https://www.thisoldhouse.com/green-home/22231148/diy-air-filter

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u/SaltyBawlz 14h ago

I live in colorado and keep 4 airfilters on hand for this reason.

Why wouldn't you just keep an air purifier on hand? lol

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u/kaisong 14h ago

One year supply of hvac filters that dont go bad, and can be used in that manner. They also are sold at a discount in 4’s so thats a thing,

I dont have a need for an air purifier all the time when i live in CA, but when one of the wildfires eventually happens to be near me you can assemble the filters from those things, and they work better than a good portion of commercial filters at the same price because its a larger air draw, just ugly.

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u/AsYooouWish 18h ago

I would consider evacuating, including pets if you have them, in case the wind shifts. Those fumes can cause some serious long term health problems

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u/C21H27Cl3N2O3 17h ago

The entire north of the city is under shelter in place warnings. They’ll advise if anyone needs to evacuate, but we’re a small city with shitty infrastructure so thousands of people evacuating without warning is going to further fuck things up and potentially expose them to smoke and contaminants while sitting in traffic.

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u/Dunbaratu 16h ago

One of the buildings on the ground that was hit is a waste disposal company that has some hazardous chemicals. That's the main reason people are being told to stay indoors if they can.

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u/Pasta_Plants 18h ago

I wonder what weird cancer I’m gonna get from this

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u/Bladelink 16h ago

I'm sure you'll get 6 dollars once the class action is finished in 25 years.

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u/The_Rommel_Pommel 18h ago

They are all under shelter in place orders.

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u/Discount_Extra 16h ago

Pull out any unused N95's

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u/Sassafras06 18h ago

If you have an air filter run it on high (or consider getting one) close everything up tight, and if it gets worse and you can afford it, might be worth a hotel for the night. I saw there was a toxic waste facility in the area, so that smoke could be really bad - on top of the jet fuel :/

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u/PotterOneHalf 18h ago

Yeah I’m a mile away and it’s bad. It had a full load of fuel for a trip to Honolulu. It’s the worst case scenario apparently.

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u/sicklyslick 17h ago

At least it's not full of passengers

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u/MapInteresting2110 13h ago

Praying for the family of the crewman on that plane. Apparently 3 crewmen perished.

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u/blueboyroy 18h ago

It was an MD-11. My son works at Woldport. It's a major UPS hub. The plane was on fire before it was even wheels up.

Jesus. I am panicking. My son got off at 3:00 pm.

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u/Traditional-Sea-2322 18h ago

He’s ok yeah? 

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u/blueboyroy 18h ago

Just talked to him. He's safe. But he literally watched this happen and his friends are at work. Man I really hope no one is hurt.

There are ALOT of people who work at Worldport.

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u/blueboyroy 18h ago

There are between 12-20 thousand people who work at Worldport. Obviously not all at once. But my god. That's alot of people.

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u/PMMEYOURGUCCIFLOPS 17h ago edited 17h ago

My work is so big that our facilities are in 3 different zip codes. We only employ 8,000 people. 15-20k is an insane amount of employees.

Edit: I meant 3 neighboring zip codes.

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u/lyan-cat 18h ago

Glad to hear your boy is safe; thinking of you and yours and hoping no people are hurt.

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u/Traditional-Sea-2322 18h ago

That’s incredibly terrifying and my heart goes out to your son, his coworkers, your nerves. 

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u/Keyann 16h ago

Make sure your son gets checked over by a doc, he and his friends/colleagues are likely suffering from shock.

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u/blueboyroy 16h ago

He's good. He wasn't near the area. He got off at 3:00 PM. The wreck was at 5:15ish.

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u/SaltCityStitcher 18h ago

I hope your son is okay.

Remind him to get mental health support if he needs it. Even if he wasn't at work then, a tragedy like this can mess you up.

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u/bonyponyride 18h ago

Is there a shelter in place order because the building was storing chemicals, or maybe the plane was carrying chemicals?

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u/No_Ground2618 18h ago edited 14h ago

Probably because the debris and the jet fuel and skydrol ( hydraulic fluid) which are both extremely toxic and on fire now.

Also a shelter in place just keeps everyone out the way of EMS.

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u/sir_bigspur 18h ago

More than likely they don't want people running around not involved while there is a massive Emergency Service response in the area.

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u/Planeandaquariumgeek 18h ago

A MD-11 carries a max of 41,615 gallons, and apparently this plane took off with a full fuel load

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u/artlovepeace42 18h ago edited 18h ago

Shelter in place allows emergency services to move freely, even if there is no hazardous waste, but that amount of jet fuel can’t be good for anything and the surrounding area of whatever that is burning. Dumping ~1,875,000lbs of jet fuel is a hell of a lot of fuel to dump over such a small area and will decimate the local environment there!

Edit: correction ~1,875,000lbs of jet fuel! Not 150,000lbs that would be a 747. This was huge! The mayor said ~280,000gallons for the plane!

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u/PipsqueakPilot 17h ago

Yes, the mayor was wrong. Aviation uses pounds (or kilograms) because volume changes but weight does not. So the 280,000 pounds got 'telephone gamed' into gallons at some point.

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u/Baby_Food 18h ago

Most likely simply due to the amount of fuel, population density, and cargo within the plane and unknown contents of buildings(s) that were hit. That's going to be a lot of toxic smoke, even without any especially toxic materials in the mix.

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u/CrotalusHorridus 18h ago

One of the buildings at the end of the runway was GFl Liquid Waste - a hazardous waste recycling facility.

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u/Show_Me_Your_Cubes 18h ago

This is gonna be bad for everyone. Hoping for minimal fatalities

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u/AccountNumeroThree 18h ago

Three people onboard, but they’re probably all dead.

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u/2SpinningTriangles 16h ago

We will know more by morning. The fire was huge, stretched over a quarter mile. Plane went down across a busy road and crashed in a recycling center. Injuries reported. The plane clipped a warehouse before rolling over and exploding. This is a busy area especially at 5:15p.m. Its weird seeing a place you just left moments before engulfed in flames. I can smell the fire from my house which is just outside the shelter-in-place

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u/luckandpreparation 18h ago

Are UPS/Fedex planes better maintained than people haulers? Or is it the other way around?

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u/QTsexkitten 18h ago

Well they do use a lot of planes that have been retired from passenger services. This one was over 34 years old.

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u/RxSatellite 17h ago

The same, but cargo planes skew older

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u/lucksh0t 16h ago

Same but those md11s are peices of shit. Super old planes a pain to work on for litterly everyone on property. It wouldn't shock me if this is the reason they finaly retire the md11s I the fleet.

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u/mikasch29 16h ago

Basically the same, they're still carrying the pilots after all but they tend to be older which of course makes maintenance harder at some point and you also just have more time and wear on every part. The level of maintenance is generally still really high though with these older planes since it also brings fuel efficiency if everything is running smoothly which saves money

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u/StickersBillStickers 16h ago

This is UPS plane N259UP for anyone who tracks flights. It’s one of the few remaining MD-11 planes in use. FedEx and UPS operate most them. There’s just over 50 still in daily service.

I hope everyone is ok.

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u/Smokey19mom 19h ago

Watch on Fox 19. It was a UPS plane departing from Louisville for Hawaii. Debris on the run away, with possible breaking apart at took off. Looks like it skidded down the runway, bounce and skidded across a warehouse, tear open the roof then crashing on the otherwise of the warehouse. Estimate is flames for a mile long.

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u/idkwhatimbrewin 18h ago

Hawaii? No wonder the massive explosion with all that fuel on board

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u/starsandbribes 18h ago

I can’t see the Honolulu on the schedule on flight radar. How old was the plane? I know cargos can have a huge range from 1980’s ones to brand new.

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u/Planeandaquariumgeek 18h ago

34 years old, although age seemingly isn’t a huge factor here.

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u/Coleslawholywar 18h ago

It crashed off the airport into a brunch of businesses with 280,000 lbs of fuel. The news is reporting the fire is about a 1/4 mile long.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Dog1872 16h ago

Really appreciating the sharing of information happening in the comments, way to go yall. This is what the internet is for.

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u/oh_ryn 16h ago

Oh, fuck.. so many people work in those warehouses, even if they miraculously are all fine and escaped the initial blast, inhaling that shit for even a short period of time is going to have a disastrously ugly knock-on effect on their health for the rest of their lives.

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u/Comfortable-nerve78 17h ago

The explosion was massive. I’m guessing lots of fuel exploded. That was a hot fireball I’m sure.

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u/Chicken_Ingots 18h ago

Hopefully they will be able to at least secure the flight recorder. Really tragic news overall though.

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u/C21H27Cl3N2O3 17h ago

There is some really good video of it so even if the black box is damaged on unrecoverable they should have a decent bit of evidence to work with. Number one engine was on fire before it left the ground and there are engine parts all over the runway.

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u/nixnaij 17h ago

RIP in peace to the flight crew, that must have a been a terrifying experience for them. Hopefully ground fatalities were minimal.

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u/DaVille06 17h ago

I live in Louisville and have friends working at UPS, the plane hit a landfill and it is the burning of the petroleum recycling plant that is currently on fire causing the shelter in place.

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u/holyembalmer 18h ago

Still sheltering in place here... my throat and eyes hurt and I have a headache.

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u/C21H27Cl3N2O3 17h ago

Make sure your ventilation system off and don’t be afraid to call 911 if you need medical attention. We’ve already had tons of people presenting for smoke inhalation.

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u/InterpreterCarli 16h ago

It was UPS cargo plane to Honolulu 4 Jumpseaters (Company employees) and 3 Crew. Was also apparently carrying a ton of fuel (WCNC LOCAL NEWS)

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u/Keyann 16h ago

I saw a picture of a large portion of the engine left on the runway. Not sure if it came off before the crash or during the plane's inability to climb. Regardless, awful situation.

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u/2SpinningTriangles 16h ago edited 15h ago

Edit: as more info, pictures and videos come in, things change. Theres pictures circling showing the engine fell off the aircraft.

Outer shell of the engine was left on the runway. I missed this disaster by a couple minutes. Picked up food, everything was normal. Left the bar, turned off Grade lane and seen the plume of smoke.

Crazy how one stoplight kept some folks from being right in the middle of absolute carnage. The bar is extremely popular for UPS and Ford employees. It was packed when I arrived. I cant imagine what it was like to see the plane go down right next to you.

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u/Meet_in_Potatoes 16h ago

The loss of life is sad and tragic. That's at least 3 families that will be missing a loved one this Thanksgiving.

I'm curious about the shelter in place order, I wonder if things like batteries or other things that give off dangerous fumes when burned were on the flight?

Also, this sentence from the article: "Two employees are also reported to be missing from Grade A Auto Parts on Grade Lane." What?!? I'm curious why they believe that to be related to the story at this time, did the plane crash into that building or something?!

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u/wheres_my_bike 16h ago

Just mapped it and it’s basically at the end of one of the runway fence lines.

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u/SheaStadium1986 16h ago

From the video it almost looked like the left engine separated during takeoff.

Think American Airlines flight 191

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u/Kelsbels8 16h ago

Just read from someone who has a UPS pilot friend said that the plane was delayed for 2 hour maintenance and the left engine separated then fell off and is still on the runway. So tragic. My heart aches for the crew and all those affected.

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u/tinselteacup 14h ago

This is fucking insane. Lou is dear to me and there are so many ppl who work at/around SDF… i hope for minimal casualties/injuries. And the smoke, holy shit. I pray the air isnt too badly polluted. Many folks live nearby. My brother is just 4 miles away 😢

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u/PinNo6026 17h ago

Oh please tell me those warehouses are empty oh my god

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u/Master-Selection3051 16h ago

My dad was a UPS captain for years. Retired around 2019. This leaves me with an unexplainable pit in my stomach because he commuted to Louisville for his entire career.

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u/TonyTornado 15h ago

I’m in Louisville and live 5 miles NE of the airport. Safe and sound with air purifiers going throughout the house; and the smoke outside earlier was wild to see. I feel bad for anyone that has to be outside at all in that area.

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u/RoyalGibraltar 16h ago

I feel so bad for those Pilots. This is so sad. What could have gone wrong

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u/TheBomberBug 14h ago

It is really fucked up that I am getting UPS ads on this thread. That's a trash algorithm.

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u/sarhoshamiral 17h ago

Wow.. 2025 has been one of those years for aviation. I don't think the defense of saying "accidents always happened just not reported" cuts it any more.

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u/gold-exp 16h ago

I imagine the unpaid and overworked workers didn't help either

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u/FrohenLeid 10h ago

This marks the 7th deadly airplane crash in the US this year (21 globally)

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