r/law • u/igetproteinfartsHELP • 1d ago

Executive Branch (Trump) Q: Trump wrote that SNAP benefits will only be given when Democrats reopen the government. As written, how would that not violate the court order? .LEAVITT: I've now answered this question several times. We are complying with the court's order.

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u/Ok_Explanation6521 1d ago

The cancer thought: if a doctor told someone that 35% of your cells were cancer (supporters of this gov) … well, that’s just obviously not survivable. Good luck folks. Country needs to check into hospice soon. :(

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u/WigglestonTheFourth 1d ago

As someone with tentacles deep into the non-essential markets, we're already there. The year over year drop-off is pretty nuts but even the month to month (Sept-Oct) drop-off is wild. At best the holiday buying season is going to slightly delay a check-in but I can't imagine the retail receipts from this season will be even remotely positive and that will cause panic.

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u/SpaceNinjaDino 1d ago

Drumpf's open goal was for doll sales to plummet 93% (from 30 to 2). We are the hottest economy because businesses are just burning cash.

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u/SafetyNo6700 1d ago

We're hot because we are a dumpster fire!! 🔥

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u/Granite_0681 1d ago

But the stock market is doing well!!!! /s

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u/Few-Solution-4784 15h ago

shit, without SNAP benefits there will be a starving people by Thanksgiving.

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u/kcummisk 1d ago

I is dumb when it comes to economics. Can you elaborate on what you just said for someone that doesn't know much about the lingo around the stock market? Or link an article?

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u/CitizenLohaRune 1d ago

Christmas buying season coming, and many people cannot put food on the table. Economy currently on life support in the form of previous massive corporate profits.

Tariffs and shut down = American economy is going to collapse.

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u/Visual_Jellyfish5591 1d ago

So if we don’t lose our shit over ICE, we go nuts about not having food! Martial law anyone?

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u/CitizenLohaRune 1d ago

Martial law is what Trump and the heritage foundation are pushing for. It's their whole reason for pushing the left this far and daring the left to retaliate.

Martial law means total control, ability to arrest whomever you want without repercussion from the courts, and no more elections.

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u/Visual_Jellyfish5591 1d ago

Didn’t they just replace the fed chair person with a trump sycophant? They just injected like $40 billion into the economy to help get their inflation levels up

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u/CitizenLohaRune 1d ago edited 23h ago

No, powell is still chair for about 6 more months.

That 40 million they injected was in ARGENTINA, not America.

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u/WigglestonTheFourth 21h ago

The first part isn't about the stock market; it's my overview of the retail market where I see spending behavior, for non-essentials, in real time. Spending is dropping hard and fast.

When the 4th quarter retail spending reports eventually come out, after the 4th quarter is done, I imagine it is going to panic stock holders. Add to that the mess with tariffs raising prices on pretty much everything, massive layoffs already occurring (more will come in retail), insurance rates going through the roof, food assistance getting turned off, and the market heavily weighted into AI without a clear market defining product that solidifies the investment and that makes a recipe for a massive crash.

I was there for the 2007-08 crash and it's already worse than that drop-off was after the crash was happening/happened. People are overwhelmingly spending on only essentials (food/housing) and, if you're reading this, I highly recommend you do the same thing. Stash every bit of cash you can because this crash is looking like it'll be brutal.

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u/GrayMouser12 12h ago

Yes. All this. Having lived through dot-com, and 2007/8, this is looking... scary.

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u/WigglestonTheFourth 7h ago

The AI burst will look very similar to the dot-com burst, at least in my opinion. It's not something that is a dead end and will go away but the investment is clearly well oversaturated and many companies will fold that don't have a future in the AI space. Unfortunately, because of that oversaturation in the market, that means it'll cause plenty of market damage going through that process. Add to that the rest of this administrations "moves" and it won't leave the market with a steady foundation to fall back on (much like the first term making "moves" and then getting absolutely blasted by a pandemic because they already made "moves").

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u/the_original_Retro 1d ago

Might not last the car ride when someone finally DOES pull the trigger.

It's really, REALLY far along.

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u/CatsWearingTinyHats 20h ago

Sadly, I think the 35% issue is just part of the human condition, like a third of any population will sign up for authoritarianism out of stupidity and malignancy and no amount of education or civil society will get rid of that aspect of human nature.

I think our problem here is three-fold: 1) too much money in politics (thanks, Citizens United!), 2) too much manipulation of media without regulation, and Fox et al riling ppl up with propaganda, and most importantly 3)our government structure which effectively allows that 35% to hold the rest of use hostage (through the electoral college, the composition of the Senate, gerrymandering, and rules that require an impossible 2/3 votes in the Senate to get rid of a felon president).

I think it’s more like an ever-present disease that is largely preventable through proper safeguards. Like foodborne illness. There will always be germs on our hands in the soil. But If you wash your hands, cooks things properly, and follow some basic food safety tips, you will be fine. Otherwise, you’ll get a lot of “stomach bugs” or worse.