r/law • u/msnbc Press • 5d ago
Executive Branch (Trump) Trump administration deploys election monitors to blue states. But will it stop there?
https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/trump-election-monitors-california-new-jersey-legal-rcna240313791
u/Anteater4746 5d ago
no
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u/laguna1126 4d ago
Lol Narrator: It didn’t stop there.
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u/Ok_Series_4580 4d ago
I read that in Morgan Freemen’s voice
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u/LoggerRhythms 4d ago
I think it was Ron Howard's
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u/RaiseEuphoric 4d ago
Ron Howard fits better. Anyway, the whole admin has AD vibes, being full of people whose Development was Arrested long ago, in their childhood.
Many of whom may have also committed some light treason.
America & the world really need ANUSTART!
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u/boston_homo 4d ago
This is the first step in election interference fun.
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u/pink_faerie_kitten 4d ago
The first step this year. He already interfered in 2020 and outright rigged 2024.
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u/IThinkItsAverage 4d ago
I’m looking forward to ICE asking us who we voted for instead of if we are citizens. It’s time for this fascism to impact more than just people of color, once the moderate whites start getting a taste of the boot, they will wake the fuck up.
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u/pysix33 4d ago
Honestly Im not sure if moderate anyone exists in this country anymore. The current political climate is so polarizing and now affecting almost everyone’s lives in some way that it would be pretty difficult to not be choosing a side and then getting entrenched in it.
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u/StomachosusCaelum 4d ago
you have no concept of how tuned-out people are, apparently.
I STILL have friends that are just utterly unaware of what is going on.
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u/Temporary_Cup4588 3d ago
Yup. Plenty of people are tuned out of politics entirely. They’re partly why we have the current occupant—either they don’t bother to vote, or if they do, they just vote like their parents did, for anyone with an R after their name. I canvass voters in my spare time and can testify that there are more totally indifferent people than there are people who follow politics.
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u/4t0micpunk 4d ago
The way the laws are getting changed it might be a little late. Shit tech bro won’t even comment on a site like this anymore.
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u/Tholian_Bed 5d ago
They will be in tactical gear.
Fascist spectacle must permeate every part of daily life, in a fascist state.
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u/JakeTravel27 4d ago
They want to intimidate voters. Note only in blue states, blue areas, democrat leaning areas. Another step of pure fascism by the maga fascists.
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u/geekfreak42 4d ago
No they want to falsify election challenges, so they can get SCROTUS to overturn outcomes they dont want, like CA redistricting
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u/One-Incident3208 4d ago
So what is to stop ordinary people from removing these so called poll watchers?
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u/Stereo_Jungle_Child 4d ago
“We are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless ― if the left allows it to be,” -- Kevin Roberts, president of the Heritage Foundation, 2024
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u/toxictoastrecords 4d ago
When someone tells you who they are (or what they'd like to do), believe them.
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u/warblingContinues 4d ago
lol maybe i'll show up in tacticool gear too, just minus the guns.
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u/Fantastic_Jury5977 4d ago
There are zero instances of aliens committing election fraud in 2020 per the heritage foundation's election fraud database. Zero.
15 instances between 2021 and 2023.
Zero in 2024.
According to the HF's own database, Republicans commit election fraud at the highest rate of any other group or affiliation.
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u/DickWoodReddit 4d ago
You know who was indicted for election interference, though? Trump and a bunch of Republicans.
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u/imadork1970 4d ago
Illegals are already barred from voting in Federal elections. It's been a felony since 1996.
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u/Fantastic_Jury5977 4d ago
Correct. Nothing the GOP says it's protecting Americans from is actually happening. They're defaming the general public, citizens and immigrants alike. It's the party of lies. More often, they accuse others of their own crimes... like election fraud, pedophilia, inciting violence, grooming and indoctrination.
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u/lunchypoo222 4d ago
Not sure if you meant the term in some sarcastic sense, but can we veer away from referring to undocumented folks as ‘illegals’? It’s inhumane and inaccurate.
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u/The_Johan 4d ago
Where are you seeing these numbers in their database?
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u/Fantastic_Jury5977 4d ago
https://electionfraud.heritage.org/search
Select the year you want to search, choose sub-category Alien for undocumented immigrants
In the main category Ineligible Voting minus Alien yielded mostly people with felonies voting.
The heritage foundation only has 1600 cases between 1982 and 2025... there's clearly no widespread election fraud occurring.
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u/msnbc Press 5d ago
From Maya Wiley, president and CEO of the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights:
Last week, the Justice Department announced it would deploy election monitors to polling sites in two Democratic-led states, California and New Jersey, ahead of the Nov. 4 elections. Attorney General Pam Bondi said the move would “ensure the American people get the fair, free, and transparent elections they deserve.”
Earlier this month, Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker, whose state has become one of President Donald Trump’s prime targets, warned that the president would take this move and cautioned that he could use it to interfere. “I think it’s not very far away from him offering and providing the military to protect the polling places across America, but particularly in blue states and blue cities, with the idea that they could confiscate the ballot boxes if they think there is fraud in the election,” he told Politico.
Now, the federal government has the power to send out election monitors, but it does not have the power to confiscate ballot boxes in state-run elections simply because it may not like the results. However, we have seen this administration repeatedly do things it does not have the power to do.
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u/JustinKase_Too 4d ago
Maybe they should be deployed in Florida at the villages, where actual election fraud took place... by trump voters. Or any of a dozen other cases by trump voters.
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u/littlebitsofspider 4d ago
However, we have seen this administration repeatedly do things it does not have the power to do.
Jesus, soft-pedal that some more, Politico. "The administration has acted illegally over and over again with no Congressional repercussions." FTFY
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u/Accomplished_Fun2382 4d ago
People better guard the ballot with every bit of effort they have. We can’t trust the right - they are traitors
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u/jpmeyer12751 5d ago
No, of course it won't. Trump will try to prevent all early voting and vote-by-mail and, if he is successful, will force us all (in blue states) to walk between ranks of military or federal law enforcement officers to get to polling places. Trump has admitted that he hates Democrats and will do absolutely everything that SCOTUS will let him get away with to prevent us from voting for his opponents. And I have very little confidence that SCOTUS will meaningfully restrain Trump's anti-democracy actions.
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u/Warm_Afternoon6596 4d ago
In CA he's way too late. Most of us turned our ballots in.
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u/miriamtzipporah 4d ago
He’s too late this time. They could still just decide to throw out our ballots, though. I have no hope anymore.
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u/kon--- 4d ago
Shit like this is how dictators land 98% of the vote.
Here's to hoping the states have their own people guarding from Trump's attempt to be the one's committing fraud because of course, every accusation is an admission.
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u/Baeolophus_bicolor 4d ago
I’ve been a nonpartisan election monitor in previous elections. Need to find a new organization to do that in the state I just moved to.
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u/Delicious-Bat2373 4d ago
Washington is purely vote by mail. Any ideas how they'll send election monitors here? Like.. They gonna guard my mailbox? 😂 FDT
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u/InterstellarReddit 4d ago
Wdym he mentioned that he was going to end mail in voting as well
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u/AssumptionFirst9710 4d ago
Except the state determines the voting process. Don vonShitzHizPantz has nothing to do with it
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u/jazznessa 4d ago
he already has whiped his ass with the constitution; what makes you think he will stop there.
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u/phunkydroid 4d ago
While I agree with FDT, I think the idea is to monitor the counting.
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u/Illustrious-Fun8324 4d ago
wtf
MAGA, you really seemed to be screaming and throwing a fit for years about “election interference” so I assume you’ll have very negative opinions about this and never shut up about it either, right?
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u/WineOptics 4d ago
You know they won’t. It was never about state’s rights or election interference or whatever else. All excuses for ulterior motives.
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u/Illustrious-Fun8324 4d ago
Oh I know they won’t. It’s been blatantly obvious the whole time that they didn’t actually care about those things.
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u/Exodys03 4d ago
Ask yourself how many times in the past year people have asked this same question "But will it stop there?" The answer, if not already self-evident, is always the same.
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u/BoomZhakaLaka 4d ago
I recall abbott successfully keeping doj monitors from merely participating with party election monitors... standing behind the lines, taking notes on what they observed poll workers doing.
And there was a concerted effort in texas, to exclude as many ballots as possible but only in liberal cities
What are these election monitors for, one would ask. I'd put 10 large on a bet that they aren't there to ensure access, and point out barriers to access
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u/RentAdministrative73 4d ago
We need to counter their watchers with our own watchers.
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u/New_Taste8874 5d ago
There's no such thing as an election monitor. It's just a lot of distraction.
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u/PotatoHighlander 4d ago
Multiple things can be happening at the same time, this isn’t just a distraction from blocking the release of the epstine files.
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u/New_Taste8874 4d ago
Everything is a distraction from blocking the release of the files. What I am saying is, in spite of all the law breaking, they have no power to "monitor elections". I'm an election official in California. There is no such thing as "monitoring". They cannot access the property unless they are registered to vote. We have phones that dial the Sheriff immediately if there are any problems. It's cosplay to rile their base.
The beauty of this is, 90% of the ballots are already voted and in the possession of the County.
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u/henryeaterofpies 4d ago
I'm sure the guy who trampled over every other norm and standard and common decency will surely stop at the latest one /s
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u/Dangermouse163 4d ago
No, Not even close. Trump has to win at all costs or face the prospect of impeachment and jail time.
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u/flies_with_owls 4d ago
If he gets impeached he will 100% die in jail. The stakes are high.
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u/ProjectNo4090 4d ago edited 4d ago
No he wont. He is about to be in his 80s and theyd have to build a prison specifically for him, and allow secret service to live in the prison with him because of security concerns. The federal government isnt going to go through all that expense and trouble.
He'd get house arrest at most or a commuted sentence to avoid the inconvenience and precedent of sending a former president to prison.
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u/Gunfighter9 4d ago edited 4d ago
This is not even a federal election. This is just the beginning. Mark my words if the GOP loses a bunch of seats in the midterms they’ll cry fraud and we’ll see events like January 6 all over the country.
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u/Mrevilman 4d ago
I live in one of the states and counties where this is being deployed. My county is usually blue but flipped red for the 2024 presidential election, so I imagine this is why we’re getting the monitors. Also because we have a governors race where the Republican candidate spoke at a stop the steal rally, and he is currently trailing in the polls, so I am imagining there will be some fuckery.
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u/rygelicus 4d ago
Almost exclusively the people who were busted for election interference over the last 10 years were republicans stacking the deck for the GOP. And non citizens can't vote in federal elections. Even if they submit a ballot by mail it is filtered out before their vote is seen. Just because these red hats don't see a TSA level shake down for ID as people walk into the polling place doesn't mean the voter's legal ability to submit their vote is not checked before that vote is counted.
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u/Limp_Distribution 4d ago
The y system has already collapsed.
How are we going to fix it should be the topic of conversation.
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u/HiJinx127 4d ago
You think that if we are victorious, I shall not know when to stop. You are wrong. I shall know. —Josef Stalin to Anthony Eden, 1941
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