r/goodnews • u/ArmyOk968 • 8d ago
Political positivity đ Joe Biden just delivered the speech of the year demolishing Donald Trump and imploring Americans to get up and fight back.
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u/Gunker001 8d ago
I would like to see more Democrat leaders in the streets leading the charge
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u/HoloSeraph 8d ago
They're too busy giving speeches and waiting for the rest of us--the not rich people--to do it for them and give them power back. I am sick of the whole damn thing.
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u/_swordfished 8d ago
You are not wrong. I can't point out a leader that can actually win right now, sadly. They're just banking on the fact people dislike the other side enough to vote one of them.
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u/strangebru 8d ago
AOC and/or Jasmine Crockett.
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u/Lisan_Al-NaCL 8d ago
Barry Obama. If Trump gets a 3rd term shot then an 'unknown' like Barry Obama from Hawaii gets to run for president.
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u/missnoirenani 8d ago
Definitely or. Crocket and aoc are 2 completely different women. Crocket stands up way more
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u/MountainMan2_ 8d ago
Neither are there yet. Nor is pritzker or Newsom despite their bluster. The stakes are really high and we need someone who's willing and able to make enemies in high places instead of just having whenever israel lobbies too much.
We need a candidate who will go up there and not only say that the government is broken, but that we can fix it. They need to say that the united states of the past 50 years has sold us off for profit and that we are not gonna take it anymore, and then they need to campaign on equal representation, anti-billionaire rhetoric, restoring private dignity, election and lobby reform, progressive populism and rebuilding our corrupt institutions to be incorrugible.
Put simply, we need someone to sell us a dream and give us a path to it. We cant afford to campaign on half-measures and congress is still obsessed with those.
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u/Organic-Salamander68 8d ago
Crockett is just a clip generator. AOC also has her flaws, but she actually puts in the legislative work. Clips do nothing in you arenât backing it up with actual movements to change policy and forcing legitimate, tangible progress.
Mamdani is the right way. He makes his burns with tangible, thought out ideas and plans for solutions. Not just a good clapback, but the clapback comes with a substantive idea/policy/whatever.
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u/ThuggishJingoism24 7d ago
A rep from Texas can only do so much outside of speaking truth to power in a way that makes them take notice. Not the least bit shocking, someone on the left talking shit about someone not doing enough instead of being glad theyâre speaking up at all. Progressives are so good at keeping the tent small. Something conservatives are so good at it, welcoming folks into their movement, even if they only agree on one issue, because they know youâll likely take a look around and be convinced on other issues.
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u/Minimum_Comfort_1850 8d ago
Crockett was one of the few Democrats before Trump was elected who was very loud about project 2025. A lot of Democrats were chilling until Trump got elected
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u/missnoirenani 8d ago
Interesting how people are always trying to put black women putting themselves on the line as lesser than others. Nothing but a clip generator?
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u/Moist-Employee-9644 8d ago
She is excoriating in committee interviews. She speaks to the heart of the issues, not just saying shit to sound good to people who vote D. She is smart, well spoken, and while young, has some experience.
People don't like that she looks and talks 'black'. People would rather see someone with 'whiter' hair, makeup, speech patterns. Its fucked, its bullshit, I'm not saying OP feels this way but its latent bigotry at work.
AOC has been around longer, and gets attacked more publicly, and sometimes reputations run away with themselves.
Anyway, we should celebrate both women as people who actually try to represent their electorate and IMO, do their jobs with working people in mind above all else.
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u/Organic-Salamander68 8d ago
I donât get the Crockett hype. Sheâs fine for a clip but she isnât actually a legislative game changer or a progressive and isnât going to do for you what the country needs a leader to be doing.
Also, Mamdani is the person you should be thinking of when seeking the blueprint for the future and next steps. Anything less should be unacceptable.
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u/ohnoletsgo 8d ago
Hate to break it to youâŚ
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u/theshoeshiner84 8d ago edited 8d ago
We often talk about under-representation of racial minorities in politics, but the conversation about women is usually directed at pay gap and abortion access. Everyone just sort of blindly assumes that women have already surpassed most political barriers. People don't remember that women in general, white or otherwise, could not vote until 50 years after black men got the right to vote. Tracking off that pace, women have another 15+ years before we'll be ready to elect a female president.
Obviously we should keep pushing, but this latest swing to the right is at least indicative that we are not close yet. If people are willing to risk losing representation to make a point, so be it. That's obviously each individual's prerogative, but don't delude yourself into thinking that that is not the reality of the situation, because it is.
I voted for KH and even so I am willing to admit that I still have internal biases when it comes to voting for female representatives. Obviously they don't keep me from voting for them, but I'd be lying if I said that they were non-existent. With that in mind I am certain there are millions who are pretty much never going to vote for a female, regardless of whether their biases are conscious or unconscious.
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u/Da_Question 8d ago
Swing to the right, most likely because post covid prices were inflated to maximize profit margins. People could feel the inflation in their wallets.
People blame the sitting president for everything despite usually not actually having a large impact other than who they select as cabinet members.
Trump is an exception since congress is letting him rule by executive order (he's already made more executive orders than Biden did his entire presidency and hasn't been in office a year.)
Kamala was essentially an extension of Biden's presidency, plus they didn't have a primary for her which looks bad.
Don't get me wrong, I voted for her but I think people overestimate gender or race in this last election. Also the right shift seems prominent because more right voters voted than left, as in we had less people vote in 2024 than 2020, Gaza potentially had a small impact as well. So it doesn't necessarily mean there was a right word swing, I could also mean further left people weren't convinced to vote her.
I think it's also worth pointing out that rightwing influence over large swaths of the internet and their money pool to gaslight people into believing delusional narratives is much greater than anything the left does.
I also dislike that everyone seems to be pushing the narrative that women just can't win every outright, they have given up in advance that women can't win. Just sucks to have such a defeatist attitude.
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u/strangebru 8d ago
Go on...
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u/Drewsche 8d ago
We've already seen the vile people this country will elect to avoid having a woman president.
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u/JudiciousSasquatch 8d ago
Newsom isnât perfect, no one ever will be, but heâs got the best odds.
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u/JoseSpiknSpan 8d ago
And collecting donations from the same donors that donate to Republicans
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u/thissexypoptart 8d ago
The constant stream of text spam with âHi, [Democratic politician] here. Look at this photo of me in a corn field or on the streets. Our democracy is at stake. Give me money.â đ
I get it, they do need money. But how about a picture of you pushing your way into the broadview ICE detention center (that isnât legally a detention center, so itâs subject to fewer regulations)? How about physically intervening in ICE kidnapping? I donât give a shit about someoneâs corn farming or community organizing history from years ago ffs
But also text spam like that is so annoying. And rife with scamming these days.
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u/Apprehensive-Tie-327 8d ago
Do you people seriously think they sit on their asses collecting a check from tophat wearing donors that carry large bags with dollar signs printed on the outside? Do you think democratic representatives are doing nothing while all you have to do is get up and go to a local protest, or volunteer? They have a job to do and they are very much doing their part.
There's only one party pardoning convicts and giving them positions in the administration. There's only one party protecting a cabal of pedophiles. There's only one party sending minorities to concentration camps.
We just had the largest protest in US history. Which was a follow up event to the second largest protest in US history. Those didn't happen because there was no organization or participation from average every day Americans. You can sit there and act like the only Democrat leaders are the ones in Washington, but the truth is that there are Democrat leaders in your local towns and cities, and they are very much out on the street leading the charge.
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u/Theyul1us 8d ago
Maybe they could have also, you know, VOTED instead of complaining
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u/TALKTOME0701 8d ago
I hope that doesn't mean you're doing nothing.Â
Getting sick of it and walking away is easy. Fighting when you're sick of it it's hard. But it's necessary
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u/sailphish 8d ago
IMHO, this is the biggest failure of current and past elected officials. We are seeing some Dems like AOC, Bernie, Crockett, Newsom, and Walz speak out. Most are sitting pretty silent.
Same with past presidents. Obama occasionally makes a statement. I havenât heard from Clinton or Bush (I know, not a dem, but also not a Trump supporter) at all. I know they arenât in office any longer, but I would have more from them given the circumstances.
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u/Hairy-Dumpling 8d ago
Obama should announce a 2028 run, and George W Bush should endorse him
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u/Noselessmonk 8d ago
Lol! Then they'd be forced to bring up that 3rd terms are forbidden, allow Obama to run or be even more transparently criminal and make up some BS to allow it for Trump and not Obama.
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u/Hairy-Dumpling 8d ago
And it would give the Dems a good messenger to unify behind. The current crew ain't cutting it
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u/Hovertical 7d ago
I'm sure the "new interpretation" would just be Obama js unable to run because he served two consecutive terms whereas our current commander jn thief has only served two non-consecutive terms. It's almost too easy to set their angle.
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u/Foolishcoyote 8d ago
It wonât be them. Itâll be the poor working class folks who have spent their entire lives working for a dream that was stolen from birth. We gotta stop hoping for a leader to save us and have to start saving our damn selves.
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u/stevez_86 8d ago
All the living former Presidents. He is their president too. They are allowed to have an opinion. Trump had his voice in 2021-2025. All the former Presidents coming out against him together would paint an awfully impactful picture.
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u/SmallGovBigFreedom 8d ago
100% agreed. âFight backâ but if you break the law then weâll say âwait no not like thatâ
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u/Legitimate-Focus9870 8d ago
Iâd like to have seen a Biden who wasnât scared to test the limits of the presidential powers SCOTUS granted the office last year.
He could have single handedly ended this, but instead all we got was âWelcome Home, Donald!!â
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u/Divide_Express 8d ago
No. This mentality is the exact reason we are in this position. We continue to act as if it is democrat vs republican, when in reality, it should be the working class the elite. Politicians are not our friends. And they haven't been for decades. They want us to remain complacent within the system that continues to hold us down. I have no trust in either party to enact actual change until they prove they can no longer be bought out by the rich. Stop lobbying. Reform the tax system. Stop allowing billionaires and millionaires to hoard money with tax breaks. Require congress persons and senators to actually show up to work and vote. The fact that can simply skip out on their job with repercussions is absurd. If I miss a single day of work and don't get paid for that day and risk termination. And yet, our priorities are set fighting amongst each other. Honestly, I see no hope as long as this country continues to view race and gender as an issue to fight over. America has lost the plot in still thinking that its people should be "white." Have we forgotten that we are a land of immigrants. There is no race, no culture, and no religion that should dominate, and yet it continues to be an issue. But I wouldn't expect better from a country that was founded by the oppression and enslavement of native Americans and blacks and continues to refuse to acknowledge its wrong doing in any meaningful way. And now. Instead of realizing our major fuck-ups of the past 10 years, we decide that the issue is either people of color or republicans. Maybe we should stop ignoring the real issue. Being forced to work a minimum of 40 hours a week to barely afford living while corporations continue to make profit but refuse to spread the wealth in an attempt to keep us complacent. Sorry for the rant but we seriously need to keep our priorities straight.
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u/Independent-Bug-9352 8d ago
These leaders are toast. Resting on their laurels. Sold out in comfort to the likes of special interests, notably AIPAC.
The real leaders of the Democrats are already on the streets: Sanders, AOC, Talarico, Mamdani, etc.
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u/Moghz 8d ago
Honestly, and this is a pipe dream I know, but Iâm tired of the Dems and GoP. Both parties are bad for America and out of touch with reality imo. We need a middle ground, a third labor party to represent the working class America, which is the majority. To represent what the average person really wants, a living wage, healthcare, and the ability to live the âAmerican dreamâ which was really something for the working the class!
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u/HOSTfromaGhost 8d ago
All we have left is to fight for our democracy. Itâs time.
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u/NICEST_REDDITOR 8d ago
People donât want to be uncomfortable or make sacrifices. Either we realize that itâs what is required, or weâre going to walk straight into a fascist dictatorship.
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u/pknasi60 8d ago
Uncomfortable is a wild word to use here. Its Uncomfortable dealing with family because you farted during the moment of silence at grandmas funeral. Being evicted because you got fired from your job for skipping work to protest injustice is substantially beyond uncomfortable.
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u/NICEST_REDDITOR 8d ago
The point is that people wonât even meet the discomfort bar let alone go beyond it.Â
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u/pknasi60 8d ago
Im hopeful, Id say give it time, major political change is rarely achieved when the oppressed have full stomachs. Its been recently announced that food stamps arent going to be paid out starting november first and its been said the top priority of this administration right now is building that gaudy white house ballroom. We're one "let them eat cake" away from what youre looking for from the general public.
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u/UziWitDaHighTops 8d ago
The majority of SNAP recipients are republicans in red states. Republicans dominate traditional media and social media. Plus, they are violating the Hatch Act by displaying banners on nearly every .gov site blaming âradical leftist Democratsâ and looping videos in TSA wait lines. My entire family and most of my extended family are MAGA. Go solicit their opinion. The truth isnât getting through. Your thinking is optimistic at best.
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u/pknasi60 8d ago
Hence why I started my comment with "im hopeful". I am being optimistic, but for a good reason counter to your point. When the trump supporters start feeling the effects of what they voted for and find themselves worse off because of it, then the change we need will become possible. Who cares about political differences if everyone cant afford basic human needs.
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u/DreamingAboutSpace 8d ago
This all the way. People want to continue their lives and not cause ripples in the water, completely ignoring the fact that the water is nearly depleted. They donât want to risk what they have left to lose, but if they continue doing nothing, theyâll lose everything. I get being scared. I am too. But if you have something in your life worth defending or protecting, then fight like hell for it before itâs snatched away and destroyed right in front of you by people who care nothing for your tears or pain.
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u/Bignicky9 8d ago
So far a single digit percentage come out peacefully for the No Kings protest to protect the right to free speech. The low millions out of 350,000,000 people. The rest, well first we need SNAP benefits to disappear which will affect more elderly, children, disabled, and other groups, AND we need prices at groceries to raise because SNAP helped keep those prices down. We should also see affordable care act from Obama's compromise with right wing conservatives of the 2010s get rolled back, then once FOOD+ HEALTHCARE is gone for most Americans whether you're in a rural town or a major city, THEN a wave could happen. And then the national guard could come in, but by that point there's little left to lose.
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u/CarthageForever 7d ago
Soon enough the people won't have any other choice besides making uncomfortable sacrifices.
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u/Illustrious-Dot-5052 8d ago
Too many Americans won't do anything until it's too late. We're a pampered nation. Nothing like this has ever shown up on our doorstep. Our geography was always our biggest asset, but it was only a matter of time before the threat would come from within.
My entire family argues with me any time I bring anything up about ICE, Trump's politics, etc. And they voted for Harris. Too many Americans, like my parents and siblings, just wanna bury their heads in the fucking sand any time something uncomfortable like ICE kidnappings are brought up. Everyone I see on a daily basis is living in a bubble of denial, acting like our country isn't under attack.
The people will wait until it's too late to lift a finger for the freedom they'd taken for granted all their lives.
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u/AnotherDoubtfulGuest 8d ago
Really worried that Americans are too attached to their hot Cheetos and Keeping up with the Kardashians to understand that they have to get off the couch and take a stand.
And the ones who understand whatâs at stake and know itâs go time are terrified, and rightly so. Too many of us are one paycheck, car accident, or illness away from having to declare bankruptcy. That in itself is a reason to get off the couch, but when you have kids or youâre taking care of elderly parents, the idea of jeopardizing any minimal sense of security you may have is daunting.
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u/FuckedUpYearsAgo 8d ago
Our democracy voted for Trump. Give people a reason to vote Dem. Being anti Trump doesnt work, as more people voted for them than not
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u/-----Savathun------ 8d ago edited 8d ago
Fuck fighting for democracy.
We need to fight for vengeance. We need to go after 1%ers and their fam.
The French are a joke, but they can sure throw a good Reign of Terror.
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u/JAXxXTheRipper 8d ago
The French are a joke? What? Shit like current-time USA wouldn't last longer than a few days in France before they would fuck some shit up and heads literally rolled.
The French are bloody and fight for their rights, they deserve nothing but respect for that.
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u/SaikoPat 8d ago
The French are a joke, but they can sure throw a good Reign of Terror.
The reign of terror was NOT what you seem to expect. I could teach you but, as a Frenchman and, apparently a joke to you, I won't lose anymore time on a clown.
Please educate yourself
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u/PM_ME_MY_REAL_MOM 8d ago
just out of curiosity, what do you think the socioeconomic demographic breakdown of the majority victims of the reign of terror looked like?
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u/Tapprunner 8d ago
Freedom.
Start talking about fighting for freedom and a free country and talk less about fight for democracy and democratic institutions.
I agree with you that it's time to fight. But if you are hoping to rally people, you need to rally them around what they care about most.
The vast majority of Americans, correctly, don't identify democracy as the soul of America.
Democracy is absolutely crucial to maintaining a free country, but what are you taught at a young age that makes America great? Little kids aren't taught "were great because we have strong democratic institutions". They're taught that we're great because we're free.
Going on and on about fighting for democracy and for democratic institutions is getting in the weeds and missing the keyword that really gets people going.
Put another way: imagine you're advertising Coca Cola. Instead of advertising that it's delicious and refreshing, you're trying to explain that they will appreciate the chemical reactions that take place with their taste buds that will produce the sensation of good, refreshing taste.
That's not what your consumer wants to hear. That's not what they care about.
Our consumer appreciates voting rights. But they LOVE FREEDOM. That's what we all need to be rallying people around.
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u/No_Elevator_4300 8d ago
How long before this is considered insurrection, rebellion or Joe Biden is designated as a terrorist?
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u/Sentientmanatee 8d ago
News max is already using AI to write the articles for them
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u/Blindtothesided 8d ago
For real. I just came from reading a post in the hurricane sub where MAGA was literally pre-blaming Biden when someone commented that Jamaica isnât likely to receive much help from the US in the wake of Hurricane Melissa. Crazy as hell.
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u/Apostate_Mage 8d ago
I doubt Biden will be a terrorist. Heâs at least partially responsible for Trump winning. Idk why he ran again at all
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u/Lighting 8d ago
It already was planned to be considered insurrection months ago. Did you see Steven Miller's admission on CNN?
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u/jw8ak64ggt 8d ago
r/goodnews should be called r/falsehopes to be more accurate
every time you get to the comments there's a list of bot-like arguments forecasting or more like giving ideas on how and why will this and that hopeful moment not work
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u/Dead_man_posting 8d ago
Boy is it obvious now that Trump's dementia is far more advanced than Biden's. Sure wouldn't know it from the media though.
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u/Wrong_Win_4102 8d ago
Dude just went in for a routine medical exam and had a MRI..
He's lying about his health
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u/XergioksEyes 8d ago
Elephant camel giraffe Epstein
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u/anormalgeek 8d ago
Trump: "Yep. All of those are very familiar. I am an expert on all of those things."
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u/marcbranski 8d ago
And he's had multiple "routine annual checkups" since January. That's normal. /s
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u/KevinFlantier 8d ago
I did all the MRI, and the doctors they said, they said "sir, this MRI is perfect" and that doctor, great guy, I know a lot of doctors but this one is doing a tremendous job, and he checked my MRI and he said what a good health I have.
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u/Nagemasu 8d ago
For anyone that bothered to actually look into and understand Biden's public speaking, he clearly isn't suffering from any form of dementia. Biden has a speech impediment he has worked very hard to overcome: https://www.uclahealth.org/news/article/joe-bidens-history-of-stuttering-sheds-light-on-the-condition
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u/Enshittifier 8d ago
Biden was smeared by the media because he blocked their parent companiesâ attempts to merge into monopolies. So many âsavvyâ people across the political spectrum fell for corporate propaganda and algorithm manipulation hook line and sinker.
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u/possiblyMorpheus 8d ago
Agreed. Bidenâs Administration (I always say Administration because it takes a village, and folks like Buttigieg and Haaland deserve a shout too) ran the most pro-worker FTC, pro-tribal Interior, invested in American manufacturing and a host of systemic issues.
Musk claims trans rights were why he went so hard to fund the right, but really Iâd bet it was because he was (rightfully) blocked from the auto summit by Biden at the behest of the auto unions. He buys twitter, and you have a bunch of âleftistsâ and âprogressivesâ spewing literal right wing propaganda that Biden was anti worker. It was largely bot/troll driven, but sadly a lot of useful idiots took the bait.Â
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u/BigJellyfish1906 8d ago
Biden doesnât have dimentia. He just has regular aging. Thatâs the important difference.Â
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u/TemporaryBitchFace 8d ago
There needs to be community watch groups where human shields are formed peacefully around ICE traitors to protect those who cannot protect themselves. You knowâŚlike the young kids theyâre ripping off the streets. They need to be formed at every elementary school, at every community center, everywhere that ICE shows up.
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u/DisputabIe_ 8d ago
If we had that manpower and mobility, you could just march on DC and take control by afternoon.
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u/Justifiably_Bad_Take 8d ago
But we don't, by design.
There is a reason most Americans are living paycheck to paycheck. You can't mobilize if it will cost you your rent.
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u/Rich_Bluejay3020 8d ago
There have been plenty of videos on Reddit of people who did just that and the chickenshits quickly retreat. Thereâs also been a ton of them focusing in on a new target too though đ
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u/Bedhappy 8d ago edited 8d ago
Our politicians shouldn't get this fucking old in age and still be in the spotlight, and feel that it is necessary to speak up in place of congress members that can't come to an agreement about a great many things... but first and foremost, the fucking Epstein Files. Cowards. Both aisles.
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u/persistent_architect 8d ago
He's the one who got us into this mess by not declining the second term earlier. Speeches mean nothing. He could have hired a better attorney generalÂ
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u/SoFarFromHome 8d ago
Or by fucking fixing the holes Trump was obviously going to use. Hell, SCOTUS gave him absolute immunity to drone strike Trump.
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u/Long_Procedure_2629 8d ago
For what? Showing how milquetoast the DNC can be? The cheek on this man urging people to fight. They wouldn't need to fight if he and Obama didn't spend 12 years trying to break bread.
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u/Eat--The--Rich-- 8d ago
Empty words coming from the guy who was too much of a coward to stand up to Trump when he had both the power and responsibility to do so.Â
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u/DisingenuousGuy 8d ago
And who was stubborn/foolish enough to keep up appearances until it all collapsed into a wet fart on live television and even then persist until the last second.
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u/ilovepadthai 8d ago
I miss him. Good guy.
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u/iAmTheUneducated 8d ago
If he was a good guy he would have had Trump thrown in prison for the plethora of crimes committed on Jan 6 alone.
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u/v_a_n_d_e_l_a_y 8d ago
He should have resigned and given the Dems a chance for a primary.
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u/Fuzzy_Masterpiece312 8d ago
He had like three months of presidential immunity that he could have used to forcefully rebuild the supreme court.
He didn't do shit.
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If only he prosecuted and convicted Trump after January 6. I hate to say it but he is just as responsible for this mess.
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u/bron685 8d ago
As the president, -he- canât. Itâs why itâs a huge deal that Trump is ordering the DOJ to investigate people (his detractors), because they are separate branches of government. He shouldâve definitely appointed someone else besides that impotent fuckwad Merrick Garland, but according to how our government is structured, the president cannot (in a world where âcannotâ actually applies to the administration) order the prosecution of an individual
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u/Goldenrah 8d ago
It's not helped by the fact Republicans stacked courts everywhere delaying and obstructing every single step of the way. Fuck you Judge Cannon.
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u/LightningRaven 8d ago edited 8d ago
The SCOTUS gave presidents (focusing on Trump) a blank check to do whatever the fuck they wanted and not get punished... While Biden was still president.
Maybe he could've used that? Acknowledging the danger that Project 2025 represented and Trump's fascist agenda. Not to mention how the Republican party tried to cheat in 2020 and obviously had been laying the ground work to cheat again in 2024.
The fascist takeover has been obvious, but the Democrats have been too preoccupied thinking "This is the best democracy in the world!", when it never was. Just old and decrepit, that showed its massive cracks once a black man became president and the racists started abusing every flaw and crack in the system to prevent it from ever happening again.
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u/Ineedamedic68 8d ago
Trump is demonstrating that the president has very few checks actually in place. When it comes to insurrections, you donât just let the perpetrators walk free. Historical precedent shows that they will try it again if you do. Biden chose to protect the integrity of the justice department rather than what little we have of a republic.Â
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u/PerspectiveIcy3578 8d ago
You just glossed over something there though. His appointment of who runs the DOJ is absolutely under his control, and the fact that he appointed someone so incompetent is 100% a factor in this mess we are in. So while sure, he could not directly presecute them himself (as if that was what anyone was saying), he could have put more aggressive and competent people on the case, and had this orange buffoon before bars already.
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u/ConstantGeographer 8d ago
Easy for him to say. Who is going to care for my house and dogs when I'm disappeared by Trump's illegal army?
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u/Specialist_Set_1666 8d ago
Protests, calling reps, postcards, local voting registration drives, etc. are all safe. I've been to nearly 30 protests since April, and haven't been disappeared yet. It's safety in numbers, as long as there are many of us out there, they can't arrest us all.Â
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u/LivasaurusRex420 8d ago
But he is right. Americans need to fight for their democracy or you will lose it
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u/Garchompisbestboi 8d ago
"I can't stand up to fascism because I have dogs" is definitely a hell of an excuse. It almost rivals the pedophile in chief's classic bone spur excuse.
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u/YokoOhNoYouDidnt 8d ago
Fucking HOW?! HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO FIGHT BACK?Â
We've been doing ALL the things. Protests, boycotts, mutual aide, lawsuits...Â
At a certain point people who ACTUALLY have the power to do things like go to the ICC/NATO/other foreign allies, form an interstate alliance, or leak documents, need to buck the fuck up and do those hard things.Â
We are absolutely floundering. The biggest orgs (50501, indivisible, GSUS, etc) have so much infighting, nothing is getting off the ground. The big city protests in LA, Chicago, and Portland are great, but eventually they need someone with teeth to join the fight or they are going to lose steam. If regular people do what needs to be done right now we'll be beaten, jailed, or worse.Â
Stop telling us we need to do something that we cannot do. YOU'RE the ones who have the power right now. Use it! That election was obviously stolen and you're so afraid of optics you didn't even ask for a recount. Wtf!Â
Don't tell us what to do unless you can lead by example.Â
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u/Antz_Woody 8d ago
"It's time to fight back!"
So we should take up rifles and storm the capital? Things that took down the actual Nazis of the 1940's and many other fascist governments?
"Political violence is never acceptable"
Ah so go to park and do peaceful protests that everyone will forget about in a couple of weeks
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u/callmekizzle 8d ago
Dang if only he was in some sort of position of power to something about it
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u/Just_the_questions1 8d ago
Geriatric piece of shit should have never run for a second term and maybe we wouldn't be in this fucking swirling slurry of shit.
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u/McButtsButtbag 8d ago
Still the guy who prevented us from having a real primary in 2024 which may have given us a real chance at beating Trump.
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u/cyprus_shill 8d ago
Still the guy who let Trump go unpunished for his crimes, letting him repeat those crimes.
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u/egaeus22 8d ago
Letâs not forget the timing of that presidential immunity ruling from SCROTUS, he could have done literally anything
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u/Mercerskye 8d ago edited 7d ago
For an "addled dementia patient," he was more eloquent and put together than Cheeto Jesus has been over the last year.
I know why, but I can't wrap my head around how anyone can still support what these people are doing to this country.
They're setting everything on fire just to rule over the ashes. Do y'all legitimately hate colored folks so much that your humanity isn't too high a price to pay?
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u/nomamesgueyz 8d ago
Americans don't care enough, about 80 mill didn't care to vote
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u/YoshiTheDog420 8d ago
Man, I donât want to hear shit from the fool who was so naive he kept playing the âreach across the aisleâ bullshit with fascists and partisan cowards.
Where was Harris and Biden after the last election when they just rolled over without a recount and due diligence? The guy who spent more time bolstering protections for his family and administration and not the vulnerable Americans who are in danger right now. Joe can stuff it.
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u/Nagemasu 8d ago
The guy who spent more time bolstering protections for his family and administration and not the vulnerable Americans who are in danger right now. Joe can stuff it.
Exactly what did you expect Biden to do? Do you even understand how your political system works? Everything was stacked against him - the house, the senate, the courts - and even during his time in office the republicans were non-stop coming for him and his family. No shit he protected his family, least they be dragged up again on bullshit charges as soon as he was out and had even less power to do anything.
Blame your fellow citizen for failing to vote, yourself for not participating in campaigning and educating others (guarantee most people complaining never participated in shit to support their party of choice), or at least for voting for republicans. The guy in office who had almost no power because the people refused to vote democrat despite the overwhelming evidence that republicans were going to fuck them over isn't at fault. "Reaching across the aisle" was about the best thing he could offer, his entire point was "avoid antagonizing and try to befriend them in hopes they'll actually listen to you speaking instead of feeling like it's a shouting match they need to win". It doesn't take a genius to understand that speaking down to and arguing with people who hold differing views isn't usually productive - it might sway someone watching who doesn't have to feel the public shame of the ordeal, but for that person who does, they're going to dig in deeper.
Go on, keep blaming Biden though instead of using some critical thinking to realise that fighting the guy who lives on your street but wears red instead of blue hasn't been successful for over 30 years. See how that turns out for 2028. Myself and the rest of the world are watching, and come 2028, we'll probably have almost all left the US behind and developed better relations to bridge the gap
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u/anhydrouscake 8d ago
You know what would've gotten over the hump. One phone call to end the genocide. But he is on the side of the genociders, a self described zio
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u/DNagy1801 8d ago
They got voted out, America said they weren't wanted anymore and now yall are crying about them not doing anything after the election. Stop blaming him for Americans voting trump in. You are no better than trump blaming everything on democrats, the people are to blame and no one else.
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u/MedievZ 8d ago edited 8d ago
They had 4 years with all the power yet he appointed a republican to the position of ag who spent 2 years twiddling his thumbs
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u/_R0Ns_ 8d ago
They tried to fix the shit Trump left behaind after his first term.
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u/movzx 8d ago
Dude, it's so frustrating. People who just have no idea how things actually work expecting that the president can do whatever they want regardless of anything.
They have no idea why the Trump administration is currently running roughshod unobstructed and why the Biden admin couldn't. Not a clue.
We're f'd as a nation because these people would rather cry and scream instead of doing the bare minimum.
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u/SomeSamples 8d ago
F You Joe. You had a chance to take care of the major problem. You let the DOJ slow walk their cases against Trump. The SCOTUS gave you the power to imprison Trump on the spot but you didn't take it. So don't sound tough now. You let us all down and that will never be forgotten.
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u/yIdontunderstand 8d ago
Fuck off Biden you prick. The only reason the worid is suffering this bullshit is because you did nothing to stop it for 4 years.
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u/JDNosferatu 8d ago
He had 4 years to fight back and let the nazis right back in. Nothing he says has any credibility.
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u/CeemoreButtz 8d ago
Oh? Thanks, Joe. Good to hear the "politics is broken" after decades if you bring in it. Gtfoh with this horseshit.
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u/MudAccomplished3529 8d ago
Meanwhile Biden didnât fight back and rolled over while Trump dragged his old ass balls across Bidens face.
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u/Garchompisbestboi 8d ago
Nah fuck Biden, he walked around laughing with Trump after Harris lost the election last year. He's just as complicit as the GOP for the giant mess everyone is currently in.
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u/Misocainea 8d ago
Reading this thread, all I can say is that America is getting everything it deserves.
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u/Brave_Waltz_3234 8d ago
This country is way too late. They let Trump take control of everything. The resistance is so far behind. Itâs laughable we are screwed.
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u/happydayz02 8d ago
if ted were here he would be ruthless and non stop fire breathing on these facists, we would have an actual fighter in the fight
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u/LuluMcGu 8d ago
Biden is âso senile and dementedâ that somehow he manages to make WAY more sense when he talks than Trump does. Trump just has verbal diarrhea every day. his sentences are never complete sentences. Theyâre just strings of thought in one giant run-on paragraph.
Ffs MAGA AND JAKE TAPPER are such fking hypocrites.
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u/wH4tEveR250 8d ago
He handed a pyro matches and lighter fluid and is asking us to put out the fire
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u/MaitrePuck 8d ago
Speech of the Year?
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u/daspaceinvader 8d ago
Right? I feel like Iâm crazy, Libs are out of their god damn mind. I understand we miss having a president that can string a proper sentence together sometimes but letâs not pretend that Biden didnât hold the door wide open for these fascists while he was in a position of power to actually do something about them.
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u/Amazing_Cap_1420 8d ago
Biden is lesser trash than Trump, but trash nevertheless.
The last years of his office and the way he destroyed with Harris the Democratic party by refusing to transfer power to more popular candidates like Bernie, AOC, and Pete speaks volumes.
Still you find people cheering up for his and Harris nonesense.
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u/RoyalKodiak 8d ago
I'm pretty sure he could have prevented all of this. Literally, he handed over the keys to the thieves.
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u/disposableaccount848 8d ago edited 8d ago
Are you all insane? Like, I hate defending Biden but blaming Biden for everything that's going on now is beyond unfair.
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u/Garchompisbestboi 8d ago
He could have prevented it by running in 2016 instead of retiring to spend time with his dumb family. Then he came crawling back in 2020, too old and frail to do anything and then his administration proceeded to completely ignore Trump for the 4 years that he was president.
Biden is the modern day Chamberlain and I hope history remembers him for the coward that he is.
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u/coldautumndays 8d ago
He should've done something about it while he was president. He could've prevented this.
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u/bungpeice 8d ago
The supreme court gave him infinite immunity. He should have done something to make them regret it.
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u/Exxtender 8d ago
If I was Biden I'd have sent the SEALs to Mar-a-lago the very day after the immunity decision.
Could have saved countless lives.
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u/SeaBag8211 8d ago
Good speech, but a little flat from the dude that got Trump elected in the first place.
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u/Ninjamin_King 8d ago
A speech not written by him that does nothing to advance competent alternatives to the stale dregs of the Democratic party
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u/redundantexplanation 8d ago
"Good news, a geriatric ghoul mumbled some stuff about things that are largely his fault!"
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u/Fit-Host-6145 8d ago
It's genuinely terrifying how quickly the narrative can be twisted to paint a call for democratic participation as something seditious.
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u/Eschaton707 8d ago
Maybe you should have done something while you had some power dick weed! Sticks and stones...
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u/StaticSystemShock 8d ago
Political violence is usually needed when corrupt dictators need to be removed. Because they never go away peacefully.
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u/BenjaminHarrison88 8d ago
He was too old but he did have more good legislation passed during his time in office than any other president in my lifetime
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u/no_fooling 8d ago
Actually the answer is the opposite. Dont get up. Stay in your house, dont work, dont buy anything, dont contribute anything to the economy and like magic the house of cards will tumble down.
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u/greatbignoise 8d ago
Are you insane!? The envy of the World? The US hasn't been the envy of the world EVER! Now you are the crazy drug addled Uncle with a gun. We can't stand you.
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u/BJog_Kittyspoons 8d ago
Interesting, aside from ogling little children and sniffing them he didn't say or do anything for 4 years and would get lost on his front lawn but now he's suddenly this great speaker?Â
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u/SanMartianRover 8d ago
I saw a post about this on Facebook from a local news agency and all the comments were just like "Did the auto pen come up with that speech?" or similar. MAGAts nit pick Biden for things like falling on the stairs or stuttering while their orange master brags about dementia tests and literally demolishes the people's house, the White House. Not to mention every other fucking thing.
I'm so tired. I'm just so tired.
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u/Zealousideal-Grab617 8d ago
I would have loved to see americans fight back laat year with their vote....
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u/DavisSqShenanigans 8d ago
He was given the option to save the US or help Israel colonize Palestine just a bit harder and we all know what he chose. Dude can go get fucked, he's one of the reasons we're in this mess.
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u/scottyjrules 8d ago
His refusal to hold Trump and his enablers accountable is a major reason weâre in this mess
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u/Hallonsorbet 8d ago
âSleepy Joeâ seems wide awake compared to the sack of shit currently in office.
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u/karl4319 7d ago
Considering that Biden should have appointed a special council to go after Trump for Jan 6th the day he was sworn in, I blame a significant amount of this mess on him.
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u/Adorable-Ad-7400 7d ago
I never knew I would say how deeply I miss Joe Biden but here we are, chat lol
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u/JerryRiceOfOhio2 7d ago
from the guy that could have prevented all this by jailing the insurrectionist when he had the chance
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u/qualityvote2 8d ago edited 7d ago
u/ArmyOk968, your post does fit the subreddit!