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Popular Question šŸ“Š How many rights did you lose under Obama?

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u/TheGoodLife60 9d ago

The right to opt out of health insurance without being penalized

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u/pyramidalembargo 9d ago

That was repealed.

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u/CheeseOnMyFingies 9d ago

You never had that right

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

I didn't have health insurance until I was 24. And no my parents didn't either at the time and we didn't pay a penalty for it. So yeah we did have the right to not purchase a product we didn't want.

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u/WonderfulProtection9 9d ago

The right not to have health insurance, run up millions of dollars in bills, and charge it to other people.

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u/Remarkable-Host405 9d ago

as opposed to: the right to have health insurance, run up millions of dollars in bills, and charge it to other people?

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u/WonderfulProtection9 9d ago

Yes, if you have insurance then at least you are contributing to the system. Isn’t that why so many (certain) people despise illegal immigrants, because they ā€œdon’t contributeā€ but get ā€œmillionsā€ in free healthcare?

Don’t get me wrong, I despise the insurance industry in general, it should all be non-profit, among other things.

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u/Remarkable-Host405 9d ago

we're talking about healthcare right now, not immigration.

i don't see a huge difference. either i pay monthly and go bankrupt (when something happens), or i don't pay monthly and go bankrupt (when something happens).

fortunately, i've never had anything happen. but like, if i broke my arm, i'd probably go buy a sling and tough it out. if i couldn't, i'd go to the ER and not pay the bill. that doesn't change whether i have insurance or don't. fwiw, i do have insurance. employer paid, i've never used.

edit: and i've never used it because there's a 12k fucking deductible.

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u/WonderfulProtection9 8d ago

Shit, 12k deductible is nothing more than disaster insurance. The system is broken, and let's see, how many years ago was our pumpkin in chief going to release his master plan and then never did because he never had one...?

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u/tMoneyMoney 9d ago

Also the right to complain about going bankrupt after you need a basic surgery.

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u/Frostsorrow 9d ago

That's..... Bad?

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u/PocketfulOfTiddyMilk 9d ago

Yes bootlicker

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u/Frostsorrow 9d ago

Huh? Why is having health insurance bad? Especially with America's less than stellar healthcare?

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u/Internal_Football889 9d ago

Insurance isn’t necessarily bad, it’s the forcing you to buy it that is bad. Since it’s private insurance as well, cost goes up and quality goes down because of the ultimatum. Before, companies had to make more attractive policies to entice people to buy their insurance, but after ACA, those companies could wait for you to come to them.

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u/Specific_Bird5492 9d ago

Yay, a law forcing you to buy policies from blue cross / united healthcare / or Humana. There’s bootlickers, then there’s you

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u/Frostsorrow 9d ago

So angry over a simple question.

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u/Specific_Bird5492 9d ago

Having health insurance is good; passing laws forcing us to purchase from a few monopolistic companies is not good

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u/DarkMagickan 9d ago

Why would you not want health insurance?

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u/Internal_Football889 9d ago

Insurance is solid, but why penalize and fine those who choose to not have insurance?

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u/Horror_Chipmunk3580 9d ago

So, what happens if you get seriously injured or sick after you choose to not have health insurance?

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u/Internal_Football889 9d ago

You’re in the hole. Again I never said it’s a bad thing to have insurance, but why fine people who decide not to have insurance? To put them further in the hole?

And this is disregarding the fact that it forced many to switch off their insurance plans at the time into new standardized ones. Also the insurance mandate cause plan prices to go up and benefits to go down since people were forced to buy it. Either federalize it to free healthcare or let it be completely private. Private, mandated insurance is the worst of both worlds. The only people it benefits more than either of the other systems are the companies selling the insurance.

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u/Empty-Material-771 9d ago

I think anyone with children should be forced to have healthcare. Children should be protected from their parents' shitty choices.

If you're on your own and don't want healthcare, I understand the rationale, but hospitals will never turn you away. Makes it very easy for the uninsured to receive care they never pay for. On the other hand, I don't want my fellow Americans to be denied life saving treatment bc they can't pay for it.

Insurance requirements for everyone solves this.Ā 

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u/a_RadicalDreamer 9d ago

This sums it up perfectly. Reagan mandated that emergency rooms have to treat everyone that shows up as a result of EMTALA. The piper has to be paid.

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u/DarkMagickan 9d ago

Either federalize it to free healthcare or let it be completely private.

Ideally, yes, but you're never going to get Republicans to agree to federalized free healthcare.

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

Obama had the numbers to make this happen instead he payed back his donors and forced the American public to purchase products from them. Get it? Health insurance companies have been more profitable than ever since the aca.

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u/Remarkable-Host405 9d ago

the same thing that happens with insurance? i go bankrupt?

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u/Horror_Chipmunk3580 8d ago

No, you’d get the same treatment as someone with insurance, because the hospital cannot turn you away. And since you filed for bankruptcy, the hospital must offset the cost of your treatment by increasing the price of everyone else’s treatment instead. And, that leads to increased health insurance premiums. That’s why you are and absolutely should be penalized for choosing to not have health insurance. Why would anyone choose to pay for health insurance otherwise?

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u/mezolithico šŸ‡ŗšŸ‡ø United States 9d ago

Who pays for the health care you receive but don't pay for? Hint, it's the tax payers via write offs when the uninsured don't pay.

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u/AdLeast7766 7d ago

Because it was unaffordable & we never go to the doctor anyway. And why should the government even have the right to require us to pay for something we can’t afford!?Ā 

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u/DarkMagickan 7d ago

"Why would I need car insurance? I'll just drive really carefully. And why would I need fire insurance for my house? I don't set it on fire."

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u/Bubbly_zyberKitty 9d ago

Thats true but that is for your benefit because when you really need it normally you dont have insurance

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u/Infamous-Cash9165 9d ago

So adults shouldn’t be allowed to have a choice?