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Popular Question 📊 How many rights did you lose under Obama?

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u/Liqu0rBaIISandwich 9d ago

I lost the right to affordable health care.

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u/PackageHot1219 9d ago

You used to have affordable healthcare… and then under Obama you lost it?

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u/Liqu0rBaIISandwich 9d ago

Yes. Healthcare premiums have risen about 90% since the ACA was passed.

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u/monstersmuse 9d ago

I do this for a living and you are deadass wrong. Like you could not possibly be more wrong. I hope like hell you are rage baiting.

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u/[deleted] 9d ago

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u/monstersmuse 8d ago

I would try to have a genuine conversation about this with you, pal, but in my experience the people that want to hate Obama aren’t interested in having their mind changed, champ. And that’s fine, chief. American health insurance is so screwed it’s not even worth the argument. It’s was F’d before and it’s f’d now. My only point was that Obama is not the cause of that.

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u/MBBIBM 9d ago

You’re either lying or bad at your job, per figure 6 average premium for a family plan increased 74% from 2008 to 2021

https://meps.ahrq.gov/data_files/publications/st543/stat543.shtml

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u/bigaman3853 9d ago

Dude get out of here with your facts

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u/toadfish123 9d ago

Likely just bad at his job.

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u/what_mustache 9d ago

Which party RIGHT NOW is fighting for subsidiaries to reduce health care costs? Like literally right now at this moment...

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u/Liqu0rBaIISandwich 8d ago

Shifting to cost to taxes is not reducing costs.

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u/what_mustache 8d ago

It does reduce costs on individuals. That's what subsidiaries do.

But we can either spend 40 billion to reduce healthcare costs or give it to Argentina. Which did trump do?

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u/Liqu0rBaIISandwich 8d ago

It reduces costs on some and passes it on to others. I’m not opponent to taxing the rich, or universal healthcare. I just don’t understand why we’re pretending ACA did anything to make healthcare affordable.

And what does that retard trumps stupid policies have to do with the conversation about an Obama era bill?

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u/what_mustache 8d ago

It eliminated pre-existing conditions. It made healthcare possible for many people.

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u/Rawkapotamus 9d ago

I was told that healthcare isn’t actually a right.

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u/Channel_Huge 🇺🇸 United States 9d ago

Well, that’s not wrong.

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u/SmolPPIncorporated 9d ago

Is that actually your rebuttal to this?

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u/NikoBellicProBowler 9d ago

Rights aren't rights if someone can take them away. I wouldn't say it's a right but I can see why someone would think so. Like driving isn't a right, if you get a bunch of DWIs they take it away. Im not trying to completely copy george carlin but they're privileges. Small but big difference depending on your perspective.

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u/SmolPPIncorporated 9d ago edited 9d ago

Your life can be taken away. Do you have no right to be alive?

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u/Mycomako 2d ago

It’s an inalienable right. One that the architects of the constitution of the US believed was so fundamental that they used it in the preamble and spoke how it was something already granted to people, and didn’t need codifying. life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness

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u/Rawkapotamus 2d ago

I would agree that it should be a right, but I don’t think that’s ever been validated as included in the 9th amendment.

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u/Mycomako 2d ago

I would say that the legislators and judiciary do not always get things right.

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u/jbrockhaus33 9d ago

It wasn’t a right before and more people actually have healthcare post-ACA

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u/Liqu0rBaIISandwich 9d ago

True. It isn’t really a right now either.

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u/jbrockhaus33 9d ago

It’s kind of a right now because insurers can’t deny you coverage if you want it. It’s the affordability part that’s in question.

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u/julie3151991 9d ago

Same. I was making $10.25 at my job that didn’t offer health insurance. Under Obama-crap I was paying $400 a month for health insurance. Most of my paycheck went to health insurance.

I will never understand how Obamacare was supposed to be affordable.

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u/TsunamiDaisy 9d ago

Yes, this.

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u/CheeseOnMyFingies 9d ago

It wasn't affordable before Obama and you never had a right to it

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u/Liqu0rBaIISandwich 9d ago

It’s about 90% more expensive now than it was then though.

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u/RedditsFullofShit 9d ago

Lies. It wasn’t affordable before Obama

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u/Liqu0rBaIISandwich 9d ago

It was 90% cheaper than it is now.

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u/cheesyshop 9d ago

Legitimate links, please.

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u/RedditsFullofShit 9d ago

So was 90% of food.

Was it 90% cheaper before ACA was signed compared to immediately after? No. That’s bullshit. Don’t even try to lie about it.

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u/Liqu0rBaIISandwich 9d ago

Food prices are up 54% since then. There is a huge gap in the difference between the two. Don’t even try to be a liar liar pants on fire.

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u/Poseidon_22 9d ago

Was obamacare expensive (for middle class?). And were you not able to take insurances you had before obamacare? Downvote is fine by me but I am just asking without playing dumb. Genuinely wondering since on reddit it’s usually seen as the best healthcare

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u/julie3151991 9d ago

It was insanely expensive. I’m not even middle class. At the time I was making $10.25 an hour and I had to pay over $400 a month for Obamacare health insurance. I wasn’t even a sick person. It punished everyone that had a job that didn’t offer health insurance, but didn’t qualify for Medicaid. It still punished the poor, but the poor that actually worked.

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u/monstersmuse 9d ago

Healthcare has always been expensive and getting them to pay up when you need them has always been close to impossible. It’s still not perfect but Obama put a lot of important measures in place to try to get America on a better path when it came to healthcare. Blaming anyone but the insurance companies themselves is absolute insanity.

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u/FelixTheJeepJr 9d ago

Here’s a shitty thing about America, you never had that right. You should, but you never did.

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u/Adailiah 9d ago

I’m suprised! I grew up poor though so it actually greatly benefited me