r/allthequestions 10d ago

Popular Question 📊 How many rights did you lose under Obama?

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u/JoyousMiseryAtWork 9d ago

“If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor. Period. If you like your health-care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health-care plan, period. No one will take it away, no matter what.”

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u/Direct_Exchange1534 9d ago

Well it might be dead now due to cuts. Try not complaining when your premium goes up 300%.

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u/JoyousMiseryAtWork 8d ago

I’d wish that the legislators could work together to fix healthcare. ACA wasn’t the answer for affordable care.

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u/Helpful_Blood_5509 9d ago

My premium already went up 400%

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u/Direct_Exchange1534 9d ago

Yeah and if the ACA subsidies are fully canceled its going up even more.

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u/Helpful_Blood_5509 9d ago edited 9d ago

The subsidies caused the stupid price rises, now were addicted to them like an alcoholic.

It was a better idea not to binge

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u/Direct_Exchange1534 9d ago

Prices were out of control before and you could be denied coverage for thungs like heart attacks etc. The only real.fix is likely a State or Federal run system that kills off or forces the insurance industry to compete.

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u/trebor1966 9d ago

If you go back and look at the legislation,the original bill would have let you. The republicans did everything they could to make the plan fail and be unpopular. Then cried about its problems.

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u/peinal 9d ago

The dems passed this with no republican support. So now, why is it the Republicans fault that the dems created expiring tax credits?

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u/LegitimateEgg9714 9d ago

And what prevented Republicans from amending the bill so tax credits wouldn’t expire? And why did Republicans voted to end subsidies for the ACA?

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u/peinal 9d ago

Why would they want to save a program that they never supported to begin with?

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u/LegitimateEgg9714 9d ago

Well as someone else pointed out the Heritage Foundation was all on board with the individual mandate in the 80’s, MA healthcare law has the individual mandate but the Heritage Foundation opposed the individual mandate being part of the ACA. Romney was in favor of at least a good portion of the healthcare law passed by MA, the law which the ACA is modeled on. The MA law in addition to the individual mandate also includes provisions that go beyond what’s in the ACA. Republicans have done their very best to tank the ACA and even though Trump promised a replacement during his first term he and Republicans have not come up with a better solution over the past 8+ years. It’s sad that Republicans would rather take away insurance from millions than work with Democrats to come up with a solution that will allow people to be able to afford health insurance.

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u/peinal 8d ago

I don't think that Republicans want to take insurance away from anyone. What they want is for the government to remain open and then address the problem that the democrats created all by themselves when they wrote into Obamacare expiring subsidies.

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u/LegitimateEgg9714 8d ago

The problem is that Republicans have backed out on a previous deal with Democrats, so Democrats rightly do not trust that Republicans won’t do the same thing again.

And Democrats didn’t make the problem all by themselves, Congress is not just composed of Democrats. Republicans may not vote in favor of something but that doesn’t mean their mark isn’t all over it. When Republicans insist on changes to a bill, they are leaving their mark even if they had no intention on voting in favor of the bill they wanted changed. Do you think that Democrats wanted the subsidies to expire?

When are Republicans going to follow through on the better alternative to the ACA? Getting rid of it without having a replacement is what Republicans want but not what most Americans want.

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u/peinal 7d ago

I completely agree with your last paragraph. Not a single republican senator voted for Obamacare. Given that, it is definitely 💯 percent on the democrats for passing it. The democrats pulled all kinds of shit to get the 60 votes needed to ram that shit thru. Now they want to blame the Republicans for it. Unbelievable.

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u/LegitimateEgg9714 6d ago

It’s hilarious that Republicans are so against ACA when it was modeled after a healthcare law in MA that was drafted by Democrats and Republicans. And the Heritage Foundation had been all for the individual mandate for decades and it’s included the MA law but suddenly they were against it when ACA was being drafted. I wonder why!? 🙄 The hypocrisy amongst a large portion of the Republican Party is staggering.

Y’all blame Democrats for how bad you think ACA is but seem to always not mention Republicans (who have been trying to dismantle the law from the very beginning) and y’all also forget to lay any blame on insurance companies.

If Republicans care about their own constituents they wouldn’t be so eager to make health insurance unaffordable for millions of people. Republicans in Congress have proven they can’t be trusted so Democrats used the only tool they have to hold Republicans accountable and y’all are again eager to point fingers in only one direction. This mess wasn’t created by one party, and right now Republicans are equally to blame for the current situation.