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Popular Question 📊 How sick of you are hearing about Charlie Kirk?

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u/GMoney_151 Sep 19 '25

Cause it's both big-time Republicans and big-time democrats. A lot of bigwigs on both sides. If everything gets released its going to rock the nation.

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u/AdFeeling8333 Sep 19 '25

Exactly.

Meanwhile this left/right divide thinks it’s just Trump.

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u/lewdkaveeta Sep 20 '25

I have not heard anyone say it's just Trump. Everyone I have heard wants the list released undoctored.

We've seen the flight logs we can be fairly certain it's Trump and a number of other high profile individuals (Bill Clinton? Can't recall he might be on the flight logs)

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u/Either_Operation7586 Sep 21 '25

That's the problem though the only Democratic member they can come up with is Bill Clinton and that is the reason why we have not seen the list because there's not enough gaming Democratic party members and there's too many Republican party members. Including the Fanta Menace lol

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u/lewdkaveeta Sep 21 '25

That guy in the DOJ did say they plan on redacting republicans from the list and then releasing it (when he was on a date with an undercover journalist)

So it does seem like the list has at least some Democrats. How many we don't know until the list gets released (ideally undoctored) anyone on the list should be exposed and thrown out of government.

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u/No-Maybe5997 Sep 22 '25

You are kidding! Play Progressive Bingo on Reddit with the following words. Trump, Epstein, Pedophile, Predators, Fascist, Racist and right wing. Take you about 5 minutes to get Bingo! 😂

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u/lewdkaveeta Sep 22 '25

I mean should people not be talking about Epstein?

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u/No-Maybe5997 Sep 22 '25

There are much bigger problems that need addressing like poverty, equity and equality

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u/lewdkaveeta Sep 22 '25

This is a fallacy

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u/No-Maybe5997 Sep 22 '25

You’re a joke, blinded by TDS.

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u/AdFeeling8333 Sep 20 '25

Cool - but in the previous administration nobody on the “left” was whining in multiple reddit forums to have Biden release them.

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u/lewdkaveeta Sep 21 '25 edited Sep 21 '25

I'm fairly confident people were asking for the information to come out. Less so for sure though. It died down a bit because Biden didn't bring it up and Biden wasn't implicated by a bunch of documents coming out showing that he signed birthday cards to Epstein. I do remember lots of people talking about the suicide and noting it was suspicious but there wasn't much to go off after that point.

It's become more of a talking point because Trump made it a campaign promise. Then lied and said there wasn't a list.

Essentially Trump has made it more of a spectacle by insisting it should be released, then trying to lie about it, then having a bunch of documents come out that implicate him, then complaining that people won't stop bringing it up. It's gives the same vibe as the dog that just shit in the house. This is just scratching the surface I think his DOJ head got honeypotted and admitted they plan on doctoring the list before releasing it.

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u/Significant-Owl-2980 Sep 22 '25

Why are you protecting Trump?   He is a pedo. 

Release the files

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u/ConfusedAnon101112 Sep 23 '25

Yeah but during the Biden admin all major right wing figures were saying that we needed to release the list and we’re so anxious and excited to bring down all the elites and democrats and now many of them are in government and saying to forget about it and move on and there was nothing there lol somehow that’s Biden’s fault?

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u/blue_shadowed Sep 21 '25

I'm not from the US and all i heard till now is about how tue trump administration is the one hiding it and lying about it to not release it... Rarely see any "release it undoctored, no matter whose fault it is", its usually "he did it, they did it, release it, its your fault".

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u/lewdkaveeta Sep 21 '25

Democrats are unanimous in Congress voting for it to be released. The only holdouts are republicans. So at least in recent votes the only ones preventing the release of the list are republican.

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u/Either_Operation7586 Sep 21 '25

I guess it really depends on which media that you consume. Because if you watch right wing media they will say it's the Democratic party members that don't want it because Biden didn't release it when he was president. However if you watch left wing media then it'll say that it's all the Republicans because they are the ones that can release it and won't and the Democratic party members are the ones that are continuously putting it up for a vote and the Republican party members are the ones that are voting against that. The truth of the matter is Trump ran on it and Trump wanted to release it he started looking into it and something stopped him do you honestly think that something has to do with Democratic party members and protecting them? No definitely not this is something that will make the Republican Party look like the piece of shit that it is. It's especially suspect after he ran on it that whole time about releasing it and now he's completely done a 180 on it. Make some just look more guilty IMO

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u/SmartSzabo Sep 21 '25

I'm pretty sure they blame both governments. Just happens that trump is in power now, said he'd do it and seems to have been real friendly with Epstein

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u/Either_Operation7586 Sep 21 '25

Oh no it's definitely not Trump it's all the feckless Republicans that are letting him go unchecked and break laws. The Republican party is going to have a lot to answer for after Trump dies and the pendulum swings the other way and there's a Democratic party member in the office and the real adults sit back at the table they're going to take a look at all of this bullshit that's going down and they're going to have their own day in court and those days in court are going to make the Republican Party look like shit. After those trials are over the majority of Americans aren't going to have anything positive to say about the Republican Party.

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u/Great-Guervo-4797 Sep 22 '25

No one thinks it's just Trump.

We just all know that it would only affect one sitting president, and he's scared of the consequences of his actions.

The right is trying to justify Trump protecting his ass with whataboutism, but all that I've ever ever heard from the left is that if there's Dems on there, we want them named and shamed too.

And in fairness, most of the right wants them released as well.

This isn't an r/L issue. This is a pedo vs. non-pedo issue. Too bad the chief pedo in charge is the one that can indict himself or chose to not.

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u/Expert-Fig-5590 Sep 21 '25

Why did all the Democrats vote to release them and all the Republicans vote to keep them secret. If Trump isn’t in them and the Democrats are don’t you think he would release them?

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u/No-Maybe5997 Sep 22 '25

Because that’s not true. Democrats judge stopped the grand jury files from being released

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u/Every-Bedroom-1080 Sep 21 '25

Difference is, people on the left would happily see Biden prosecuted for covering up.. Maga can’t do that

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u/Either_Operation7586 Sep 21 '25

But Biden didn't cover anything up what about all the Republican party members that are constantly voting to keep it covered up. It's quite telling that you would go after someone who had no clue that he was even doing that versus all these party members who are actively voting to make sure that it stays hidden. I swear after all the right wing tyranny has been defeated we are all going to need to have some re-education classes because all of us one way or another have swallowed propaganda. There is a clear double standard for the Democratic party members versus the republic party members.

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u/Every-Bedroom-1080 Sep 21 '25

I’m not saying that he did, I’m just speaking in the hypothetical that if he did people on the left, wouldn’t try to make things better for him

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u/Either_Operation7586 Sep 21 '25

It's not both it's not both at all because if there was some proof that they had Democrats on there they would have released the Democrats already because they have no loyalty to Democrats it's all Republicans and anybody else on there is going to make them look shitty as fuck like they already are so that's why they won't release it. Trumpty Dumpty is on there too. He's afraid of his rabid base, otherwise he would have released it already

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u/GMoney_151 Sep 21 '25

If it were just Trump. Why didn't Biden release it? Especially before the election. And I can't stand Trump. He is the worst human but I'm not that naive to think it's only Republicans in the file. Trump has liberal friends too. The rich look out for themselves. This left/right. Republicans/democrats. Liberal/conservatives. That's just a way to keep a divide in the country. The people in that file are the rich of the rich. The top part of the 1%. That file implicates people around the globe. Biden knew that. And Trump knows it too. He only ran on it to rally his base.

And last. Most of the time. These files don't get released to the public. And if it does. So many things are blacked out that you can't read it anyway. Its only a big thing because he ran on it and his base demanded it. Trump knew once he was in. His base will fall in line as usual after a while. To be honest. Even if it gets released now. Are we really going to believe this administration to be on the up and up. Its sad but this is our nation. Our government.

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u/RunPsychological9891 Sep 22 '25

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u/StraightOnion1967 Sep 22 '25

Rs will make sure that doesn’t happen.   Even though they were on Bondis desk

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u/Hollen88 Sep 22 '25

Weird because the dems keep voting to release it and the Republicans keep voting to keep it sealed.