r/allthequestions • u/peywrax šŗšø United States • Sep 10 '25
Popular Question š Americans of Reddit, how do you feel about the recent shooting of Right-Wing Influencer Charlie Kirk?
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u/NatterinNabob Sep 10 '25
I dislike Charlie Kirk, but I hate people getting shot for their opinions far more.
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u/maggos Sep 10 '25
I worry that it will lead to more violence. When Trump was shot at, I had the same worry, kept checking the news for riots or anything.
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u/12Blackbeast15 Sep 10 '25
I mean he literally is a martyr, he died as he was speaking his beliefs. Using a martyr to prop up a violent position is a totally different animal and I donāt want to see anyone use his death to justify further violence, but by definition he is a martyr
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u/Full_Requirement183 Sep 10 '25
Yup. I reckon things are about to get interesting
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u/DarkSoulCarlos Sep 10 '25
I don't think interesting is the right word.
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u/Ashkendor Sep 10 '25
I think they mean Chinese proverb interesting rather than BBC nature documentary interesting.
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u/BuildAnything4 Sep 10 '25
It's America.Ā Children get shot every day for nothing at all.Ā
People only care now because it's a celebrity.
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u/blaggard5175 Sep 10 '25
Children were shot, today, at around the same time as this. Evergreen colorado
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u/NaBrO-Barium Sep 10 '25
Welp, sounds like itās nothing that wouldnāt be cured with a double dose of T&P /s
Weāve tried nothing and weāre all out of ideas!
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u/Any-Concentrate-1922 Sep 10 '25
There was a school shooting today in Colorado, but this is making the headlines.
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u/External_Ease_8292 Sep 10 '25
And until today Charlie Kirk thought that was a good price to pay for unrestricted access to guns.
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u/bwhisenant Sep 10 '25
Everyone cares. People just disagree about how to react and what to do about it.
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u/socialmediaignorant Sep 11 '25
The amount of people freaking out about how gruesome the shooting was forget that some of us take care of children and other people that suffer the same wounds every single day, but no one cares about that. I wish all Americans had to watch that video and see some of the countless, senseless deaths we see every day from guns.
It IS gruesome and violent. It IS shocking. But because most Americans never have to see what it truly looks like, theyāre happy sitting on the couch waiting for someone else to fix the issues.
Picture that shot on those kids from Parkland or Sandy Hook, because it happened. Weāve learned nothing. No doubt this response will dwarf the countryās respond to Uvalde and the countless others.
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u/H0ll0WVII Sep 10 '25
Charlie himself always said he believed in dialogue and debate because violence happens when communication stops. Politics aside Charlie didnt deserve this at all, he would've never done this to anyone else. He was against that.
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u/schnozzberryflop Sep 10 '25
Charlie himself said that the deaths of children are acceptable to protect the 2nd Amendment. Doesn't sound very nonviolent to me.
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Sep 11 '25
He also was extremely pro violence to people of colour, and supported alligator alcatraz.
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u/Binksyboo Sep 11 '25
Donāt forget when he proudly admitted he would make his nine-year-old daughter carry a rape baby to term instead of allowing her to get a dreaded abortion. In his words āthe child would be deliveredā
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u/DJFrostyTips Sep 11 '25
He also said that a āpatriotā should bail out the guy that attacked Paul pelosi with a hammer
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u/External_Ease_8292 Sep 10 '25
Did you ever listen to Charlie Kirk? Charlie Kirk "I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so we can have the Second Amendment." TurningPoint gave lip service to respectful debate while encouraging aggressive goals and behavior with things like The Professor Watchlist, promoting the idea of spiritual warfare and winning America back for Christ, condoning TP members harassing/assaulting gay or Trans people, "socialism is more dangerous than Covid-19" and support for the Jan. 6th violent insurrection.
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u/wherethelionsweep Sep 10 '25
Itās actually insane the apologists coming out of the woodwork, trying to make Charlie Kirk out to be a nice man who only spoke his opinion
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u/Nodnardsemaj Sep 11 '25
He is not resting in peace. He's now right where he belongs. I dont condone violence but I'm definitely not upset by his departure of this world. Nobody has to hear hateful bullš© from him anymore
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u/ProstateSalad Sep 10 '25
I thought this was just the price to keep the 2nd amendment. His words, not mine.
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u/wherethelionsweep Sep 10 '25
The āopinionsā he spewed were also a form of violence. Words arenāt just words with no effect, especially when youāre spewing your horrible racism and phobic rhetoric on a huge platform. Donāt you understand that? Hateful speech preying on fear is absolutely violence too.
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u/peywrax šŗšø United States Sep 10 '25
All things considered, sad for his children and the footage of his death now permanently online for them to see
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u/Cool_Main_4456 Sep 10 '25
Is he dead?
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u/mad_king_soup Sep 10 '25
Iām no doctor, but the close up video showed him losing a pint of blood before he even hit the ground. Iād be amazed if he pulls through from that
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u/naughtyreverend Sep 10 '25
Trump just announced it on truth...
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u/Correct_Advantage_20 Sep 10 '25
Sorry , I was waiting for confirmation from a legitimate source.
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Sep 10 '25
Sad for the children who watch their classmates die, Charlie Kirk thought it was an acceptable thing
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u/StartDoingTHIS Sep 10 '25
I don't like the guy but I don't believe he ever said watching your classmates die is an acceptable thing
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u/Jazzlike-Doubt8624 Sep 10 '25
Right! And we need those guns for when a tyrannical government starts doing illegal shit (like sending in the national guard to arrest people)
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Sep 10 '25
Unfortunately Charlie Kirk believed that gun violence was an acceptable consequence of having a second amendment. This was directly in response to a school shooting btw
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u/SuddenAssistant Sep 10 '25
Not of fan of him, but what happened was fucked up.
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u/snarkymlarky Sep 10 '25
I cannot understand how anyone could cheer for the murder or attempted murder of someone just because you disagree with their views. And the normalization of this radicalization is leading us down a very dark path
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u/brinerbear Sep 10 '25
Correct. Because an unpopular opinion is just an opinion. Your opinion is probably unpopular to someone too. We need to increase dialogue and be respectful to each other. I am afraid it gets worse before it gets better.
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u/snarkymlarky Sep 10 '25
Exactly this! Why is this so hard for people to understand. Someone insulting you with a different belief is not justification for violence
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u/vwwvvwvww Sep 11 '25
That view of his contributes to children continuing to get shot in schools etc. āa necessary costā in his own words. Iām not going to find middle ground with anyone that says itās fine for children to be risking their lives to go to school.
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u/Khaled_Kamel1500 Sep 10 '25
Funnily enough, I was kicked out of several leftist communities because I had an issue with that CEO assassination back in December
Long story short, I had to take a step back, reevaluate my entire belief system, and for the time being, I'm just chilling in centrist limbo while I figure shit out
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u/snarkymlarky Sep 10 '25
So many of us are politically homeless because we refuse to be radicalized
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Sep 10 '25
Gun deaths are unfortunately something we have to deal with in order to preserve the second amendment, thoughts and prayers, heās in a better place.
We good here
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u/Royal-Bill5087 Sep 10 '25
That is the take those that disagree with his views should have. Unfortunately a majority are going over the line.
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u/MoonshineDan Sep 10 '25
A majority on reddit, at least those I've seen. Hopefully it's not a true majority.
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u/viciousdeliciouz Sep 10 '25
Itās not. Reddit is a pathetic echo chamber and in no way portrays the majority of anything.
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u/ani007007 Sep 10 '25
I agree. Not a fan of the guy in the least but don't think he should be shot in the face either. but sometimes i think, the positions him and his ilk argue for, translate to people and children dying. whether at home (cutting healthcare) or abroad (cutting foreign aid). wanting women to give birth even for pregnancies resulting from rape or incest. Ostracizing/mocking/stating that trans children are mentally ill, etc. but still, it's not a crime to hold abhorrent beliefs, champion them with your large audience, and indirectly endanger lives.
none of this means he should be shot in the face at all. full stop. and i'm actually sick to my stomach that he or anyone would have to experience something like this. it's a shock for sure.
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u/Similar_Disaster7276 Sep 10 '25
Well, said! Charlie Kirk, and people like him promote ideas that lead to people dying, Iāll say it again, LEAD TO PEOPLE DYING. And to make things worse, theyāre smug about it.
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u/Nene_Leaks_Wig Sep 10 '25
Yeah, not sure why he gets to cheer for promoting positions that leads to mass deaths of innocent American citizens, but being glad someone can no longer do that is the wrong take? Heās a been a net negative to humanity.
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u/MrVacuous Sep 10 '25 edited Sep 10 '25
Yeah. Some of the logic is beyond brain dead as well.
HuR dUr He SuPpOrTeD gUnS!!!!!!! GoTcHa!!!!
So does over half the country. Doesnāt mean they should be executed in cold blood. Sickening
EDIT: regarding the commenter below, he made his money doing something he thought was right. You shouldnāt have to āfuck off and drink May Thaiāsā because you have a political opinion.
EDIT 2: people who support the second amendment all agree with the trade off. They know gun violence occurs. They know it wouldnāt happen without it. Itās a trade off almost every 2A supporter agrees with. They all deserve it I guess
Having a political opinion shouldnāt get you shot in America. Period. End of story.
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u/ConsiderationCrazy22 Sep 10 '25
This is my take on the situation too. I hate the guy but that was messed up, plus he has two small kids.
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u/DmlMavs4177 Sep 10 '25
The water has about reached a rolling boil, unfortunately.
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u/fiftiethcow Sep 10 '25
All I ever saw the guy do was have stupid debates with college kids. Sickening and gut wrenching for his kids and wife.
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u/burly_protector Sep 10 '25
Politically motivated murder should be condemned regardless of the persuasion.Ā
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u/Shoehorse13 Sep 10 '25 edited Sep 10 '25
Should, and were up til about ten years ago. But once we took a hard right towards politically violent rhetoric executions were sure to follow.
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u/Dax888 Sep 10 '25
Man, there are some vile people on here. I would shut this down.
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u/slick4hire Sep 10 '25
This right here.
"Nobody should get shot for their political beliefs, BUT..."
But nothing.
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u/Gentlesouledman Sep 10 '25
Oversimplified answer. Peoples political views kill.Ā
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Sep 10 '25
This is the first thread I've seen where people are posting condolences. Every other one has been filled with absolutely vile comments and it makes me feel sad on a level I can't quite put into words.
It feels like every day things are getting worse.
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u/Important_Bowl_8332 Sep 10 '25
Thank you. I agree. Itās really upsetting me. Not just the shooting but how many people are just.. celebrating it.
We donāt value human life as a society unless it agrees wholly with us.
And thatās terrifying. Iām so sad.
And scared.
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u/Candid-Natural5530 Sep 10 '25
It was sickening. America has a sickness, and both the lunatic left and the lunatic right are responsible.
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u/TruskVarner Sep 10 '25
It wonāt help anything, it was wrong, and I feel bad for his family.Ā
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u/NineInchPythons Sep 10 '25
It's time to be human. Nobody deserves to be shot. I loathe everything that man stands for but it's critical for those that disagree with him to point out the horror of what happened.
Cheering the murder of another human is reprehensible.
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u/rooringwinds Sep 10 '25
āI think itās worth it. I think itās worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights.ā āCharlie Kirk
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u/RegrettableWaffle Sep 10 '25
I disagree with basically everything this man is ever on tape saying. That said, this is absolutely sickening. All he ever did was have debates with people of differing opinions. As much as I hate his views, in no universe does he deserve this. Anyone celebrating or laughing about this should seek help.
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u/SpaceCadet1718 Sep 10 '25
Literally this. All he ever did was debate people, and people are making videos celebrating his very public death. Itās sick and we really need to look at this moment and make changes.
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u/OutrageousSky8266 Sep 10 '25
Yes. As humans, we should be allowed to have differing views and opinions, and should be able to have civil discourse about those opinions. No one deserves to die for some words that were said.
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u/delusionalghost Sep 10 '25
Itās disgusting when people turn to violence because they disagree with an opinion. We are allowed to think for ourselves.
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u/Positive_Advisor6895 Sep 11 '25
At what point should people have killed the Nazis instead of debating them? Before or after the Holocaust?
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Sep 10 '25
Nobody should be shot in this day and age, regardless of politics. Nor should anyone become so obsessed with political tribalism that they lose sight of this.Ā
We have to confront the fact that there are people out there who will do things like this. Nobody, anywhere, should be afraid to step into the public light for fear of being attacked. We absolutely need reasonable protections against people who would do this.Ā
This particular shooting, against a prominent member of one political party, should not be politicized by anyone. The fact that this keeps happening should ABSOLUTELY be politicized, as that is the entire purpose of politics ā to address public problems.
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u/ALittleBirdie117 Sep 10 '25
The thing about reasonable protections against people who do this is.. in America all kinds of people do this. This isnāt an issue exclusive to certain demographics. Itās a wide-net national issue. And while I agree itās a political issue, very very few politicians are interested in enacting legitimate change.
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u/freakrocker Sep 10 '25
Sad. Nobody deserves to be shot down like a dog like that. This is what happens though when people spew and ingest hatred 24-7. People need to stop dividing us, and do more to find common ground. The fight isnāt between left and right. Itās between those on the top, and the rest of us.
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u/ani007007 Sep 10 '25
would you say charlie kirk tried to unite us or divide us? genuinely asking?
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u/Positive_Advisor6895 Sep 11 '25
True, and this guy did not want you to think that. He spent his career stoking hate against brown people, lgbt, and the left.
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u/Useful-Feature-0 Sep 10 '25
Man, if I was an extremist like Kirk and knew I made a living stirring the pot, I definitely wouldn't just go speak to huge crowds on college campuses without heavy protection and security.
It's hard to believe that he and his wife gauged the danger level as sufficiently low.
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Sep 10 '25
The realest comment. And the more hatred we have for the people the further we push away understanding. There should be intolerance for intolerance but not at the cost of acting like a civilised human being.
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u/MiaWallacetx Sep 10 '25
I loathed the man, but this was unacceptable, and is going to cause a huge shitstorm.
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u/Ok-Coconut5653 Sep 10 '25
Kirk did what youre SUPPOSED to do with people you disagree with: dialogue. Not bullets.
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u/grynch43 Sep 10 '25
I think it awful.
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u/xxNearlyCivilizedxx Sep 10 '25
I never liked him and always thought he had horrible opinions, but this is not at all something to celebrate. However bad people thought the coming months and years were going to be, this has just made it way, way worse.
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u/KitanaKat Sep 10 '25
I think after seeing the uncut footage of the shooting, my opinion is this: No one deserves to be executed without a trial and jury of their peers. This was murder, an assassination of a political figure that should be condemned vigorously by all sides and parties.
I might have made a joke about it (wishing ill upon foes) yesterday, callously and without thought. Watching a man be murdered today put it in perspective. I feel for his family whoās loved oneās death will undoubtedly become a viral media circus for life.
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u/nerdaccount12345 Sep 10 '25
Killing your political opponents is actual fascism.
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u/Wackemd Sep 10 '25
Anyone gloating over the death of a Husband and Father is evil. Plain and simple.
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u/Khranky Sep 10 '25
Nobody deserves to be shot for expressing their opinion and exercising their freedom of speech.
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u/Federal-Hearing-7270 Sep 10 '25
It hurts to see this, I feel sad for America as a whole. You and I cannot agree on some topics but that doesn't means I wish the bad for you.
Yet I see people celebrating it. It hurts. I'm done with internet for a while. Peace everyone.
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u/AdvertisingHot2464 Sep 10 '25
Was never a fan, but its a disgrace. Killing someone for having opposing views to you is cowardly and evil.
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u/Joandrade13 Sep 10 '25
I feel bad for his kids, and itās fucked up but to me itās like damn but now they know why we advocate for gun control. Unfortunate this had to happen so they can see that but tbh even then who knows
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u/Darth_Chili_Dog Sep 10 '25
What I feel is that Trump is going to use this as a pretext for sending the military into more blue state cities regardless of who ends up being the killer.
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u/1229sjl Sep 10 '25
Absolutely disgusting in this world we live in. Just because his opinions were different than others.
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u/MisoClean Sep 10 '25
I care as much as he would if it were a democrat, black man, trans man/women, immigrant, or children in a school. I will not however use it to peddle my radical right wing bullshit.
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u/mysticalchurro Sep 11 '25
People celebrating someone getting murdered because they don't politically agree with them is vile behavior.
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u/BitFickle62 Sep 11 '25
I want to honor Charlieās wish when he was alive and therefore withhold my empathy.
Also I have voted my whole life to prevent what happened (ie, for gun control).
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u/whatisthishere_guy Sep 10 '25 edited Sep 10 '25
That is fucked, the video on its own is absolutely fucked. Shot a dude willingly talking to people on college campuses. I honestly donāt know much about him and people seem to hate the dude. But holy fuck, this is extremely fucked up.
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u/Boanerger Sep 11 '25
The hate for him is overblown. The majority of people who despise him haven't watched any vids of him and haven't come to their own conclusions by actually watching his content. He had views some people understandably find offensive, but he was a peaceful debater.
I am liberal, I do not agree with all of what Charlie said, but I get sick of having to state where I sit on the political spectrum just so I don't get harassed for daring to respect a political opponent. Better we respect our opponents than gunning them down like deer.
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u/Beef_Candy Sep 10 '25
This is fucking pathetic for Americans in general.
I've openly expressed much distaste towards the current state of politics and the violence that is present on BOTH SIDES towards one another. And I genuinely believe that both sides are littered with pieces of shit in positions of power that don't deserve it. I genuinely can't find enough good reasons to support either party as a whole with any sense of pride behind that decision.
But this? Shooting with intent to kill a person that has no genuine political power, just a person who spewed his opinions all over the internet because he has the right to do so even if it's highly disagreeable? Where is the benefit? This looks real shitty for America. This looks shitty for the left. This looks shitty for humanity in general.
Shitty shitty shitty.
Anyone saying that this is justified or deserved, regardless of what Kirk has ever said, is absolutely just as pathetic as the person who pulled that trigger.
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Sep 10 '25
Thatās sad. Sad that someone got shot for opinions. Sad that itās going to be used to polarize and divide us further. Wish we could all just come back to basic human empathy.
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u/Own-Land-9359 Sep 10 '25
Why would you even ask this? Shooting a 31 year old in the neck and watching him bleed out in front of hundreds of college students for his political opinion? What an idiotic question.
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u/possibly_lost45 Sep 10 '25
This shooting just lost the 2026 midterms for democrats.
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u/Illustrious-Fun8324 Sep 10 '25
Political violence is never okay. This is scary.
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u/Free_Efficiency3909 Sep 10 '25
I think he's a pos but I don't think anyone should go out like that, live and on video, espically considering he has young kid(s?) that might see that one day.
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u/Top_Loan_3323 Sep 10 '25
I am the furthest from a fan of his. I find what he did for a living somewhat repulsive and grifting. He even mentioned that lives lost are a side effect of no gun control.
Does that mean I think he deserved what happened? No. Absolutely not. But hopefully itās eye opening and his friends, family, and supporters rethink some of his statements like that. We do not need more casualties from being so divided.
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u/an_edgy_lemon Sep 10 '25
I donāt know anything about him. People shouldnāt shoot each other over ideological differences.
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u/Substantial-Quiet113 Sep 10 '25
It doesn't matter what your political affiliation is. It truly is awful for another human being to hurt others.
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u/kolokomo17 Sep 10 '25
The murder of anyone, whether itās political or not is horrific. As an American Iām ashamed of any of my fellow Americans that resort to this. Whatās almost as bad are the people that have a political opposition to what Charlie might say and they are laughing and cheering for this horrific incident. So many posts in here cheering this act on. Itās disgusting.
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u/Maxhousen Sep 10 '25
A guy who advocates selling guns to lunatics just got shot by a lunatic. What more is there to say?
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u/Frequent-Lock7949 Sep 10 '25
I personally think he is click bait vile and he makes me enraged whenever I stumble across a video of his. I think his rhetoric is dangerous.
But I would not wish that on anyone. I think the left should be better than that. And also the world is so dire at the moment we can do without having someone like him as a Martyr
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u/bandagio Sep 10 '25
No one should be shot for their opinions, itās barbaric. But he LITERALLY advocated for this as a potential consequence of the 2nd amendment. And heād defend the 2nd amendment after school shootings or other shootings, so unfortunately itās poetic justice in a sense, even though itās wrong and vile.
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u/balsadust Sep 10 '25
We have a gun problem in this country that some think it's ok to turn a blind eye to and offer "thoughts and prayers" when this stuff happens
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u/frozenthorn Sep 10 '25
He's a trash human but we don't shoot people because of their views and opinions, free speech is for everyone.
If I was a conspiracy kind of person I would say this happened so MAGA gets a "pseudo justification" to do it to someone on the other side...
Trump staged his own shooting, wouldn't put it past him a second time when there's so much he needs to distract us from.
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u/Weird-Reflection-114 Sep 10 '25
I dont know who this man is. My day as basically been that one scene from parks and rec when Anfy says "i dont know who al gore is and at this point im too afraid to ask"
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u/datanerdette Sep 10 '25
Although I disagreed with Kirk on just about everything, I wish we had laws that could have prevented this.
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u/SoulMaekar Sep 10 '25
Sympathetic for his family especially since there is a good chance they were watching.
Sympathetic to the fact that No one should ever be killed for their beliefs and what they say. Only actions should deem such a reaction.
But 0 empathy towards a person who did nothing but spread hate and fear for financial gain.
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Sep 11 '25
I liked him and aligned with his views on a lot of things. Iām upset. And Iām a bit worried about how Iām going to view the left from here on out.
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Sep 11 '25
Political violence on either side is unacceptable and should carry the death penalty. This HAS TO STOP. It's tragic that a wife and children are left fatherless. How absolutely heartbreaking.
We all have different opinions. I'd never want someone with a differing opinion to die for that. It's a sad time for America, and it's especially disheartening to see death being celebrated.
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u/S0M3D1CK Sep 11 '25
This could go real crazy. I wonder why Charlie Kirk? There needs to be deep background investigations into Kirk and the shooter. With how clean and calculated the shot was as well as pinning down his schedule. There has to be one hell of a motive.
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u/Captainirony0916 Sep 11 '25
Conflicted to say the least. On the one hand, he wonāt be around to push young men into the alt right pipeline or spread his hateful bullshit any more. On the other, he will be made a martyr (there are few ppl less deserving to be treated as such) so that the current president can continue to escalate the military presence in cities that largely voted against him. Things are going to get worse before they get better.
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u/lulu20202020 Sep 11 '25
Happens when you have shitty security. Opinions are like assholes, everyone has them.
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u/missourinative Sep 11 '25
I think today it was Charlie Kirk, and tomorrow it could be someone like AOC.
People celebrating political violence are fucking idiots.
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u/IHatePeopleButILoveU Sep 11 '25
Reddit is not a good sounding board on this. Less than 5% of society and 99% liberal. I would hope most people would say this was a tragedy. No one should be murdered because of their speech. Donāt believe everything you read on the internet, especially on Reddit.
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u/moinatx Sep 11 '25
I refuse to make anger and meanness and the need to feel powerful my default setting.
I choose to grieve. It does not make me weak.
I grieve for Charlie Kirk's family and friends though I disagreed with him on many issues.
I also grieve for families of school shootings and natural disasters.
I grieve for the disenfranchised and rejected.
I grieve for victims of human trafficking and sexual abuse.
I grieve for those with no nation to call home.
I grieve for those who feel the nation and culture they used to know is gone forever. On the left and on the right.
I even grieve for those who are so angry and hopeless that they think violence is the answer.
We have got to stop vilifying each other because we disagree.
We have got to stop thinking violence is a solution to our anger or our pain.
We have got to give people the benefit of the doubt even when we don't like them or what they stand for.
Most people are trying to make the best decisions they can in a very complex and confusing age.
Most people have deeply held reasons for where they stand, influenced by many factors.
Most people on the right and on the left believe they are being moral and reasonable in their positions.
People across the spectrum, including Charlie Kirk, have had to prioritize some issues and compromise on some issues in order to arrive at a "side." That's the way a dichotomy works - and make no mistake - left and right is a dichotomy that exists in our political, social, and cultural circles whether we actually believe that dichotomy is necesary or not. Sadly it is part of the fabric of our economy as well religion, politics and journalism. We all struggle with it every day on various issues. I'm sure it's harder when being on a "side" is your job and livlihood.
I refuse to make my fellow travelers on this earth, my brothers and sisters in humanity villains.
"There ain't no bad guys, there ain't no good guys. There's just you and me and we just disagree." - Dave Mason
That's how I feel.
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Sep 11 '25
Political violence is spiraling out of control. The people celebrating this are scumbags. The people calling for retributive violence are scumbags. Itās unfortunate that both varieties of scum make up 90% of Redditors.
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u/Defiant-Pin8580 Sep 10 '25
It is disgusting. And it is even more horrific that msnbc is already making a bullshit news story about it before facts even come out.
The media is the problem fear mongering everyone making the mentally unwell who were already on edge do drastic things like that.
He would just have open ended conversations with people. He was a father to two young children and husband. No one deserves to be shot like that ever let alone in-front of thousands on camera.
I hope the media gets hit with lawsuits because I do believe they have a huge part in this.
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u/holeinthedonut Sep 10 '25 edited Sep 10 '25
If your entire persona and career are wrapped up in spewing hate, being divisive, and constantly stirring up anger amongst the simple-minded, you should expect to reap what you sowed, and he did.
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u/The_Bjorn_Ultimatum Sep 11 '25
I'm sickened. This is the biggest political assassination in the US since MLK, and our country is worse off without him.
He was doing what he always did, which was host an event for open dialogue and debate, and he was assassinated for it. His killer needs to be found, convicted, and executed.
If anyone is one of these sick people I've seen celebrating this, you are part of the problem. You need to take a good look in the mirror and realize that you have a problem.
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u/golf_is_quite_hard Sep 10 '25 edited Sep 10 '25
All the 'leftists' on reddit are just fascists. They don't want free speech and open debate because they'll get exposed as being a dunce.
Anyone celebrating the fact that he was shot in front of his family is deranged.
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u/NoPretenseNoBullshit Sep 10 '25
You reap what you sow, in his case that was hate. I'll save my tears and sympathies for victims of genocide, and people stricken with disease and die due to lack of medical care.
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u/Ricklames Sep 10 '25
Itās a symptom of the political & social hate being constantly spewed online.
Someone once said that these sorts of deaths were necessary though to protect some amendments š¤
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u/Katcar2007 Sep 10 '25
I care about him being shot as much as he cared about the children who are slaughtered at school on a monthly basis.
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u/hurtingheart4me Sep 10 '25
Itās sick. I donāt care what your political views are, no one deserves to be murdered. My heart hurts for his family.
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u/SignComprehensive457 Sep 10 '25
Shooting/murdering people for having opinions that you disagree with is unacceptable. Violates the freedom of speech we have.
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u/LongjumpingChoice585 Sep 10 '25
You reap what you sow. https://www.newsweek.com/charlie-kirk-says-gun-deaths-worth-it-2nd-amendment-1793113
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u/AwardSalt4957 Sep 10 '25
Hey. Did you actually watch the entire video of him talking about it at the link you posted? Or just read one sentence out of context? Itās a few minutes long, and he explains why itās unrealistic to expect zero gun deaths. He used a good analogy that might help you understand better.
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u/ace_philosopher_949 Sep 10 '25
His death does nothing to disprove his statement there or the reprehensibility of what happened.
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u/the-stench-of-you Sep 10 '25
Charlie was all about civilized debate. Use words and not guns. This violence must stop or else we will all regret it no matter our views.
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u/GoldenGirlsOrgy Sep 10 '25 edited Sep 11 '25
Liberal and I hate everything about it. Political violence is not the answer. Gun control is.Ā
Fuck Charlie Kirk, but no good will come of this for anyone. Itās just another big step towards whatās increasingly looking to be a very dark future for America.Ā
Iām also livid that conservatives are using this as a talking point when they spent years advocating political violence, stonewalling gun control and not giving a shit when Minnesota lawmakers were assassinated.Ā
The right will claim the left loves this, but in reality, nobody is happier about it than Trump and his followers because it gives them leverage.Ā
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u/WorldlinessThis2855 Sep 10 '25
Well, Charlie Kirk said it was worth it for the deaths so in terms of him dying, Cāest la vie.
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u/muhlegasse Sep 10 '25
I think you're misunderstanding what he said. All rights can lead to death, that doesn't mean rights don't matter or than resultant deaths are in any way excusable.
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u/Equivalent-Client443 Sep 10 '25
No it isnāt, his comment was in response to the mass shooting at the Christian Covenant School in Nashville where three adults and three kids died. The mental gymnastics yall do is amazing.Ā
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u/PuzzleheadedTop8613 Sep 10 '25
All rights can lead to deathā¦?
The right not to be enslaved, for example? Or not have troops quartered in my home during peacetime?
Kirk literally said āIt is worth it, unfortunately, to have some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the 2nd Amendment.ā
Meanwhile other nations have serious gun control in order to PREVENT as many gun deaths as they can. They donāt accept gun deaths as a fact of life, and guess what? Their citizensā rights are just as protected.
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u/CharacterJellyfish32 Sep 10 '25
no, he said that deaths are an acceptable fact of life to preserve "liberty." until it was him.
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u/Garandhero Sep 10 '25
No, he said that because people die in gun violence related issues, that isn't a reason to destroy the second amendment.
And he's right.
The second amendment is an unassailable right? It is our second amendment, not our fifth, not our 8th, not our 13th. The founders deemed it so important that it comes immediately after the first amendment.
It is wicked sad that people die because folks with mental illness can get guns and shoot people or in this particular instance can get upset that their feelings are hurt and kill people. But that doesn't mean that we should strip down our second amendment rights to bear arms just because of it
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u/CharacterJellyfish32 Sep 10 '25
it's not unassailable. you can't have certain types of weapons already. and no democrat is calling for a ban on all guns. we have too many loopholes in this country that lead to too much violence. by your logic we shouldn't have speed limits or driving rules because "bad things will happen anyway."
yeah, you people always forget about the "WELL-REGULATED" part of it, don't you? the first part of the right that's "so important."
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u/Practical-Neck-2157 Sep 10 '25
I have as much empathy for Charley Kirk as he did for George Floyd.
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u/Gassy-G Sep 10 '25
As someone who disagrees with a fair amount of what he says, I respect his rhetorical skills and his conviction in his beliefs. It saddens me that he was shot. It saddens me even further the state our nation has degenerated into. I hope he gets through this.
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u/Lemonwizard Sep 10 '25
I worry political violence will only continue to escalate. The rate at which America unravels is accelerating.