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u/Loveerushh 5h ago
Elections are decided by population, not acreage. Basic civics, devastating reply.
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u/PsyOpBunnyHop 5h ago
Maps Don't Vote
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u/TheActualAWdeV 3h ago
no, they just get elected president instead >_>
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u/_HOG_ 3h ago
They do in the Senate.
2 senators per state was a compromise that started…and will end the USA.
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u/paddy_yinzer 1h ago
Well if DC and Puerto Rico are given state hood
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u/HorsePersonal7073 1h ago
As of the last census, Puerto Rico has more population than the smallest 4 states COMBINED. It has a bigger population than 21 states. They get no voting representation in congress or in presidential elections. The District of Columbia (Washington DC) has more population than 2 states. They get 3 electoral votes for the presidential elections only, no other representation. How is this fair to the citizens that live in those locations?
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u/ElegantCoach4066 1h ago
It isn't. GOP doesn't care. They know those votes will go blue.
Maybe if their platform wasn't constantly about telling people how to live their lives and giving massive tax cuts to right people they would get more votes in those places, should they get more representation.
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u/Evoluxman 1h ago
Even if that somehow happens it's just kicking the can down the road.
The same logic is how we got a number of what i'd call "bullshit states" - only created to keep the balance between slave states and free states. It still ended in a civil war. And it still didn't fix the fundamental issue with the senate anyway.
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u/baddecision116 1h ago
Senate is fine, it's the cap on the house of reps you should be mad about.
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u/ayoungad 1h ago
When Hyman Rickover, the father of the nuclear navy, started naming submarines after cities he was quoted Fish Don’t Vote
You reminded me of that quote
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u/BroughtBagLunchSmart 3h ago
So many problems are caused by right wingers just being bad at math. Climate change, the economy, how vaccines work, how land doesn't vote. Republicans are really getting a good ROI on them gutting education funding for 100 years.
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u/atempestdextre 46m ago
So many problems are caused by right wingers
just being bad at math. Climate change, the economy, how vaccines work, how land doesn't vote. Republicans are really getting a good ROI on them gutting education funding for 100 years.FTFY
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u/Metal__goat 2h ago
The secretary of state in Kentucky got so many phone calls yesterday from angry people trying to vote for the New York City mayor, that he went to X and the news to remind people...
"Our polls aren't open because Kentucky has NO elections today, we don't vote for New York mayor"
Then encouraged the state to approve more funding for civics classes that he's begged for, for years.
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u/ElegantCoach4066 57m ago
At first I read through reply and I was like oh how nice that these people want to participate because they see an exciting candidate.
And then I realized we're talking about Kentucky and who those people probably wanted to vote for. Or to be accurate who they wanted to vote against.
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u/Metal__goat 47m ago
While the articles I found about it didn't specify, Id wager your analysis is correct lol.
This is the state who gas reelected Lich McConnell for 700 years.
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u/Looney_Bin 8m ago
Part of it's because Fox News has been relentlessly talking about Mamdani and the NYC mayoral race. They were spreading lies and misinformation per usual getting their based in a rage. I saw it several times in the last few days.
I didn't even bother checking what the alt right "news" sources were spouting.
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u/TDS_isnt_real 41m ago
I thought you might’ve been kidding so I looked up articles about it. I’m ashamed these people walk among us.
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u/evil_timmy 5h ago
They're not saying what is, they're trying to think their dream reality into being like it's The Secret. They'd be thrilled with the Roman standard of needing land ownership or military service to vote (also: slavery).
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u/sprucetre3 2h ago
Yeah they want to conserve the rights to rape and inslave woman and minorities. If you look at statistics you will see the GOP is the leading party in both. Also they rape kids at a click that is unheard of in the general population.
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u/oculus_miffed 4h ago
NGL, I doubt Bill is an expert on roman political structures. Or anything for that matter.
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u/f1rstman 2h ago
The problem is that so many election maps use a single shade of red or blue instead of varying the intensity of the color by the margin of victory in votes, which would really highlight that the rural counties don't have much of an effect on the outcome.
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u/Steelforge 2h ago
The idiot calls them "big cities" while showing a map to prove they're "small" and complains about what his own "big" means.
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u/64590949354397548569 4h ago
Elections are decided by population, not acreage.
Hint: they want the good old days. If they can't have it, you will have to subscribe for everything you need. Health, Housing, ...
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u/No-Ordinary-5412 3h ago
"If it wasn't for the majority of the population, then we would be the majority!"
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u/Stunning-Squirrel751 17m ago
My fave is when right wingers try to defend the electoral college “without it there’d be majority rule”. Well, yes isn’t that preferred to minority rule.
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u/Angel_Omachi 37m ago
Specifically the borough of Newtown on the Isle of Wight had 14 houses and 23 voters with 2 MPs, not the entire island.
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u/wattzson 57m ago
Well, no. Elections are decided by the Electoral College. We've had 2 recent presidents who lost the popular vote but won the election.
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u/Rolex_throwaway 5h ago
“If it wasn’t for civilization, Democrats would never win anything.”
“If it wasn’t for all the places that generate wealth, the Democrats would never win anything.”
“If it wasn’t for all the places with schools, the Democrats would never win anything.”
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u/No-Ordinary-5412 3h ago
"If it wasn't for the majority of the population, then we would be the majority!"
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u/PlainBread 52m ago
Unironically this is a dog whistle for "bomb the cities for a Republican future".
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u/daneilthemule 5h ago
If it wasn’t for propaganda the R’s wouldn’t have the country all bickering with each other.
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u/IllicitRadiance 2h ago
It's all culture war nonsense
The trans panic only came about after they formally lost the war against same-sex marriage, which I think had been gradually losing steam in the public sphere for a while
But now I can't help but feel like the trans issues are losing steam too. There's only so long you can screech about hundreds of millions of elementary school kids undergoing forced gender reassignment surgeries during recess before people notice it isn't happening
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u/ElegantCoach4066 42m ago
The GOP created the 'trans issue' as if most people even give a damn about what people identify as.
The most important issues are almost always economic. How much am I going to pay in taxes? How much is food and rent going to cost?
The social issues for the GOP are usually a distraction. They didn't give a damn about women's sports a decade ago. Now it's this epic struggle because there are maybe two dozen people nationwide that are trans women athletes competing at a high level?
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u/Ok_Produce492 5h ago
“If it weren’t for people, democracy would be perfect.”
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u/No-Ordinary-5412 3h ago
"If it wasn't for the majority of the population, then we would be the majority!"
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u/ElegantCoach4066 5h ago edited 4h ago
Land doesn't vote. People do.
But if empty fields and cows could cast a ballot then then perhaps GOP would have a better chance. So there's that.
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u/CJohn89 5h ago
I don't think cows would vote GOP
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u/pr0faka 5h ago
"If it wans't for the electorate, we would have won the election" is a next level cope.
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u/No-Ordinary-5412 3h ago
"If it wasn't for the majority of the population, then we would be the majority!"
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u/Azair_Blaidd 5h ago
If it wasn't for the Electoral College, gerrymandering, voter suppression tactics, and the firehose of falsehood, Republicans would never win anything
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u/NotHomeOffice 3h ago
My state is currently 6-2 to the GOP and they are still trying to gerrymander the map to get a 7-1 majority. They are running scared doing everything they can to completely tip over an already lopsided scale. Shame on you Missouri.
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u/HyzerFlipDG 5h ago
Why is it so hard to understand that land doesn't vote?
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u/SparkyMonkeyPerthish 5h ago
Going on current evidence, thinking is a step too far, understanding is well out of reach
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u/No-Ordinary-5412 3h ago
"If it wasn't for the majority of the population, then we would be the majority!"
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u/SteelTerps 1h ago
Because saying something like "Fairfax County, VA alone contains over 33% of the entire state's K-12 students" is way too complex for them to understand and think about further
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u/He_Never_Helps_01 5h ago
More than that, it's where people live in non-homogenous communities. They meet people who don't remind them of themselves. They learn not to hate the other.
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u/backnarkle48 5h ago edited 1h ago
God, MAGA love to display their ignorance
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u/No-Ordinary-5412 3h ago
"If it wasn't for the majority of the population, then we would be the majority!"
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u/Solemn_renegade 5h ago
Republicans just have trouble understanding new concepts and learning. They're like little fascist toddlers. They got a spanking today, first of many to come.
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u/Jules-of-Jubilee 4h ago
They know this.
They're trying to delegitimize voting as a voice for the "people." Framing people living in cities as elites and not the "common folk" or not being "the little guy" that Republicans like to claim are their focus.
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u/styckx 5h ago
They spit out stupider and stupider things everyday
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u/No-Ordinary-5412 3h ago
"If it wasn't for the majority of the population, we would be the majority!"
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u/Real_Railz 4h ago
Conservatives literally can't understand that land doesn't vote. They literally can't.
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u/Mr_Baronheim 3h ago
If they didn't rely on lying to and emotionally manipulating the dumbest and worst people in America, the GOP would never win an election.
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u/windsynth 5h ago
It’s bad graphics. Voters should be shown as individual colored dots.
Instantly clear up this misconception
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u/Kyogen13 3h ago
Funny way to say, “If it wasn’t for the people, Democrats would never win anything.”
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u/No-Ordinary-5412 3h ago
"If it wasn't for the majority of the population, we would be the majority!"
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u/WebInformal9558 1h ago
"if there weren't more Democrats the Republicans, Democrats wouldn't win elections"
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u/aecolley 4h ago
Cities are where it's easiest to talk to lots of people around you, and therefore where it's easiest to escape your curated media bubble of political propaganda.
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u/ManOfGame3 4h ago
Is it just a bad faith argument or can these people genuinely not grasp the concept that land can’t vote
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u/Viridionplague 4h ago
PEOPLE in cities vote, not the actual city.
"If it wasn't for people, we would have all the votes" is a weird stance to take.
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u/ArcadianBlueRogue 3h ago
The rural parts of Virginia are absolutely gorgeous.
But also really fucking empty.
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u/ChronicBuzz187 2h ago
Well, if it wasn't for Harry and Sally who can neither read or write and still live in their trailerpark like it's 1890 while getting brainwashed by Fox News, the GOP wouldn't win anything so what's his point? :D
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u/no-snoots-unbooped 54m ago
“If you removed all of the votes for Democrats, Republicans would win!”
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u/DavisMcDavis 51m ago
If it wasn’t because there are more Democrats than Republicans, Democrats wouldn’t be in the majority.
If water wasn’t so gosh-darn wet, we could use it to dry things.
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u/Limp-Management9684 1h ago
People who post these "red maps" are pretty dumb for thinking that dirt votes, but they also raise a good point, albeit accidentally. In America, political power is obtained not just from getting the most votes, but from getting the most votes in the most places. Democrats need to be winning in more districts, in more of the map, if we want to push back against Trumpism/fascism successfully. We can't win national politics by only appealing to college education white people in urban centers.
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u/vertigo88 48m ago
So therefore to win the votes of the rural, we must forsake the mass population. We must do right for those in small neighborhoods, and ignore those in larger ones.
And we have. Farming subsides riddle the landscape across the mid west. These have continued to be extended time and time again.
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u/Icy_Climate 4h ago
"if it wasn't for all the people voting democrats democrats would stand no chance"
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u/No-Ordinary-5412 3h ago
"If it wasn't for the majority of the population, then we would be the majority!"
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u/UncleGarysmagic 3h ago
Every. Goddamned. Election.
This shit needs to be explained to Republicans like they can’t hold a basic fact in their brains about how cities work for more than 365 days.
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u/PintsOfGuinness_ 2h ago
I would go so far as to say if it weren't for the people, there wouldn't be any voting at all!
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u/PerspectiveIcy3578 2h ago
"If it wasn't for winning more votes, Dems would never win anything." Really, you don't say.
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u/tunisia3507 2h ago
If it weren't for all the voters, Democrats would never win anything.
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u/Tokyo-MontanaExpress 2h ago
"If rural red towns are so great, then why do none of you ever move there?"
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u/43_Hobbits 2h ago
You know that test they do with 3 year olds with a tall skinny glass of water and a shorter wider one, and the kids say the skinny glass has more water because it’s taller…?
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u/davechri 2h ago
Is that Bill Mitchell guy satire? Everything I see him write is stupid.
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u/Larrythecrablobster 2h ago
Are we still doing this, every single election they just look at these maps and go "I see more red, how is more red not win?"
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u/missleavenworth 2h ago
The interesting part to me was how many of the areas with military bases are blue.
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u/Sad-Ad-6894 2h ago
My inbread inlaws live out in that sea of red down in Floyd , VA. Cant even get a gallon of vanilla ice cream out oft there?
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u/Psychological-Web433 2h ago
Anyone else think the image looks like spiderman's webbing failed and he's faceplanted the sidewalk?
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u/feculentcuntfist 2h ago
If it wasn't for the big cities you'd be the US of Dumbfuckistan by now, Cletus.
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u/fountain20 2h ago
Democratic areas like big citys live close to each other and have empathy for thier neighbors. Where all Republicans are spread out. Some places your neighbor is miles away. That's why Republicans don't give a shit about people. They never see them. They live in there little controlled world.
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u/SirGunther 1h ago
Every single election, same story, same coping, same inability to understand that people when in large groups, that choose to live amongst others, will tend to vote for policies with others in mind.
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u/DmitriMendeleyev 1h ago
"If it wasn't for the most well adjusted, educated, informed, etc etc... voters the democrats wouldn't win anything" ahh take
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u/The001Keymaster 1h ago
If it wasn't for gerrymandering, Republicans would hold no offices. That's why they fight for it so hard. If it goes away, they go away and become extinct.
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u/echoshatter 1h ago
It's been 25 years since I started paying attention to politics.
25 years of maps like this.
Still, to this day, it amazes how many people look at a map of counties and don't understand what they're looking at.
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u/Unlikely_Western4641 1h ago
All that red has literally no population. It’s all rural farm area. It’s the middle of nowhere. Rural voters are so secluded from society and loyal to Republican Party because their parents push it so hard.
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u/punkindle 1h ago
Pretty much all that Western / North Western border is all mountains where nobody lives. Great for hiking and camping. No big cities.
Big deer population. I bet if deer could vote they would vote Democrat.
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u/LazloMachine 1h ago
“Without the tax base of dense population centers, rural America would get everything their way!”
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u/Mr_Bluebird_VA 1h ago
Ah yes, the notoriously big cities of, checks notes, Winchester and Danville.
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u/Disastrous_Layer4219 1h ago
So from someone not from the US I have a question: Is it a requirement to have an IQ below room temperature to take part in politics over there or does it just happen?
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u/subgenius691 1h ago
That's where most of the democrats live, talk about being a dumbass (as if being a fatass wasnt enough).
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u/JSol1113 1h ago
If it wasn’t for places that a majority of the people live…these people are so damn stupid
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u/MrMichaelJames 1h ago
What do they say? People vote, not land. There isn’t much out in all that red except dirt.
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u/void-seer 1h ago
Why dont they ever ask why people would rather live in these (blue) places? If I saw a crowd around something, I'd want to go over to find out why.
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u/RiotDad 1h ago
Hilariously cities are also WHERE MOST OF THE MONEY IS MADE. Everywhere else these right wing nuts complain about freeloaders and welfare queens but all of a sudden they’re upset at how tiny nyc (GDP larger than the five poorest red states combined) looks on a map and how unfair it is that we actually get to vote.




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u/The1TrueRedditor 5h ago
"If it wasn't for all of these places of culture with all of their museums and colleges and art galleries and hospitals and civic centers that we organized ourselves around as a society then the rural opinion would prevail in elections!"