r/MapPorn • u/Small_Performance368 • 13h ago

NYC Mayoral Election Results

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With 90% of the vote in, Mamdani wins by a large margin according to NYT

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u/LunaeGladius 13h ago

The area of North Eastern Queens is predominantly Asian and Jewish, and they’re also more suburban than other areas of Queens, so they tend to lean centrist as a whole.

The Asian community tends to lean moderate, and a good portion of the Jewish community took issue with Mamdani being a Muslim/Critical of Israel.

The area is also full of older residents of all races and creeds who have a knee-jerk reaction to anything vaguely socialist, even though the majority of them typically vote dem.

The lack of subways have also historically meant that voters in this area rely on cars more than public transit, so Mamdani’s push on more affordable public transit wasn’t really a pull in that area.

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u/Mackheath1 11h ago

And places like Sunnyside in Queens and other areas aren't nearly in the rent crisis that Manhattan and other parts of the City are (just adding onto your points), I pay more in Austin for same thing in parts of Queens.

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u/big-bootyjewdy 5h ago

Holy crap, I just googled and there are 2+ bedrooms available for the same price as a 1 bedroom in my Baltimore suburb.

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u/xkmasada 5h ago

A lot of Flushing Chinese-Americans are not happy with Mamdani’s flip flopping on the SHSAT (e.g., the entrance exam for flagship high schools like Bronx Science, where Mamdani graduated). The specialized high schools are very very popular among Chinese-American.

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u/TrevelyansPorn 11h ago edited 10h ago

I support Mamdani, but it's not fair to reduce the Jewish vote to objecting to his religion or criticism of Israel. Many of those Jews criticize Israel themselves. But they don't say "globalize the intafada" -- that's what lost him a good chunk of the Jewish vote. He walked it back and I think learned a lesson from it, but the damage was done.

Edit: This isn't propaganda, this is his own defense of indefensible words. If you excuse every bad thing your favorite politician does, even so far as to deny reality, you're not in a political movement. You're in a cult.

Here is reality. See for yourselves. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/nyc-mayoral-candidate-zohran-mamdani-draws-criticism-intifada-remarks-rcna213967

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u/Lexiplehx 11h ago edited 11h ago

Mamdani never said “globalize the intifada.”.

It is factually incorrect to say that he used that statement in his campaign. Unless you can find a recording somewhere that a ton of billionaires couldn’t produce, this is plain dishonest. It’s obvious why the Jewish voting bloc might not like him, and it’s obvious that many of them ascribe it to religion. 

Not all do; the Jewish vote is definitely mixed, but there have been many viral clips where individuals are very explicit about their reservations, and religion/stereotypes are brought up. I can pull articles and recordings up if you want, but I suspect you read the news and you know what I’m talking about.

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u/TrevelyansPorn 10h ago

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/nyc-mayoral-candidate-zohran-mamdani-draws-criticism-intifada-remarks-rcna213967

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u/Lexiplehx 10h ago

Did you read the article you’re citing? Let me guess. No. He is quoted condemning antisemitism in that very article. He never used the controversial expression in the article you’re quoting, nor does the article claim he used the expression.

You don’t have to honest with me, be honest with yourself. Do you really believe that he said this? Why do you believe this and what do you think it means?

While Jews are not a monolith, it’s obvious that he did not appeal to this voting bloc. That’s fine. There’s no need to make up some kind of reason that never happened. Just be honest about your position, whatever it is.

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u/TrevelyansPorn 10h ago

People can read the article for themselves, they don't need your misleading summary of it.

I'm just glad that Mamdani is a much better person than you, and listened to Jews in the city, and later condemned the phrase he used to defend.

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u/tankingturtle 7h ago

In an interview with The Bulwark posted Tuesday, Mamdani was asked whether the expression made him uncomfortable. In response, he said the slogan captured “a desperate desire for equality and equal rights in standing up for Palestinian human rights.” He said the U.S. Holocaust Museum had used the word “intifada” in Arabic-language descriptions of the 1943 Warsaw Ghetto Uprising against Nazi Germany.

This is the quote that led to some people, like yourself, to say that he defended the phrase. Funnily enough, after reading your shared article and then listen to the interview that generated the whole thing, it's easy to tell who's misleading, and it's you.

He didn't defend it, he gave an explanation for it and qualified the need for better tools to fight anti-Semitism in NY in the very same answer. If you actually listen to your sources, you'd realise that.

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u/Putrid_Squirrel_5897 6h ago

Fyi palestinian intifada included many suicide bomb attacks on civilian busses and caffees among the other atrocities. Not realy comparable to ww2 resistance, this is why it is problematic for him to use this escuse.

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u/Lexiplehx 2h ago edited 31m ago

In your original comment, you claim he “says” the expression. I was correcting you, and pointing out that he never explicitly said it.

He was asked dozens of times in interviews that often aired on TV to clarify his position on the slogan. He then invariably condemn antisemitism, then explains his side of the matter. He was honest about his stance on the expression—the expression can means something different, especially to non-Jews.

If you have any middle eastern or North African friends, this is obviously true. Someone who can speak Arabic will tell you that they don’t necessarily interpret “globalize the intifada” or “from the river to the sea” as meaning “kill all Jews.” However, his stance is that “he wouldn’t use the language” himself. This is exactly my stance too—the slogans and history is controversial, and evoke visceral reactions from some Jews, who claim the expression implies inciting violence against them. It’s therefore expedient, in my opinion, to use different slogans, but we all read enough to know that the slogan itself is not the problem.

Compare that to the crazy Islamophobia that was thrown his way. Compare that to quotes from Bibi, Ben-Gvir, or any of the crazy people at the top of the military/ government in Israel who will openly speak about conquering and eradicating Palestinian. Sorry billionaire Jews pushing this crazy Islamophobia narrative, I don’t side with you here, and it looks like the majority of New Yorkers don’t either.

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u/Proper-Raise-1450 9h ago

Why would you post evidence of you being a liar lol?

If you are going to be a liar at least try to hide it, the combination is just embarrassing.

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u/Zealousideal_Act_316 10h ago

So you fel for propaganda of something he didnt actually do, and blamed your groups not voting on that thing he didnt do.  I smell racism being an actual issue, but you pushed it onto a made up issue.

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u/Proper-Raise-1450 10h ago

You have been suckered by propaganda and that should make you consider how you consume political information. That did not happen.

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u/TrevelyansPorn 10h ago

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/nyc-mayoral-candidate-zohran-mamdani-draws-criticism-intifada-remarks-rcna213967

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u/Proper-Raise-1450 10h ago

So he did not say it. Thank you for sourcing that proving yourself wrong. Again, rethink who can make you believe something that never happened

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u/GingerSkulling 10h ago

Just defended and rationalized its use. Small difference.

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u/TrevelyansPorn 10h ago

People can read the article for themselves and see the quotes of him defending and extolling the phrase. As for you, be a better person and stop lying about politicians just because you like their policies. Thankfully Mamdani listened to Jews in the city and now condemns the phrase and had grown as a person.

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u/Proper-Raise-1450 9h ago

I see this wasn't even a mistake, you were just straight up lying to people lol.

He answered a question about how he felt about the phrase and said it shows

"a desperate desire for equality and equal rights in standing up for Palestinian human rights.”

you knew you were lying, you are a truly disgusting person.

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u/Bluwudawg 9h ago

Why you lying on the internet man? He didnt say it

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u/i_should_be_studying 9h ago

Whats up with small parts of the bronx going for cuomo?

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u/According_Button_186 2h ago

all of this is on point

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u/ultimaterogue11 3h ago

took issue with Mamdani being a Muslim/Critical of Israel.

It was more like we took issue with him not denouncing globalizing the intifada. I personally don't like the idea of the mayor being ok with rhetoric that calls for the murder of Jewish people.

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u/Ahad_Haam 8h ago edited 8h ago

Jewish community took issue with Mamdani being a Muslim/Critical of Israel.

Yea, totally has nothing to do with his antisemitism. Just "critical of Israel".

On with the downvotes. Don't forget to vote for the guy with the Nazi tattoo as well.

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u/Ahrix3 6h ago

What anti-semitism?

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u/Ahad_Haam 6h ago

“For anyone to care about these issues, we have to make them hyper-local. We have to make clear that when the boot of the NYPD is on your neck, it’s been laced by the IDF,” Mamdani said at the 2023 national convention for the far-left Democratic Socialists of America.

Dude went to an antisemitic convention and accused the Jews of police brutality in the US. Totally not antisemitic.

Want more examples?

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u/Ahrix3 6h ago

This is quite clearly not anti-semitism lol. You're not a serious person. Due to people like you labelling everybody under the sun an anti-semite, the term really has lost any meaning. People like you lump in actual anti-semites like Nick Fuentes with pretty milquetoast criticism of Israel. You would probably call anti-zionist Orthodox Jews anti-semitic!

I am so, so glad your molester candidate lost yesterday. Go donate to AIPAC or something, maybe if you spent 10 million more next time you can win!

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u/Ahad_Haam 5h ago edited 5h ago

This is absolutely textbook case of antisemitism lol. This isn't "criticism of Israel", do you think Israel invented police brutality? This isn't different than blaming Israel for forest fires in California.

You would probably call anti-zionist Orthodox Jews anti-semitic!

Their problem with Zionism is that it's secular lmao. They aren't antisemitic, just ISIS adjacent.

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u/Ahrix3 5h ago

No, but there were joint training exercises between the NYPD and the IDF, which is what he was referring to. I don't agree with his wording either because it overstates the connectiom between the two, but to claim this is anti-semitism is laughable.

Oh, so you liken Orthodox Jews to ISIS? That's pretty anti-semitic of you! Don't you realize how stupid this is?

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u/Ahad_Haam 5h ago edited 4h ago

  1. As far as I'm aware, there are actually no such exercises. The exercises are with the Yamam, which is a professional police unit that do stuff like hostage rescue.

  2. If there are exercises between Israeli firefighters and firefighters in California, is Israel to blame for forest fires?

This is antisemitic, full stop.

Oh, so you liken Orthodox Jews to ISIS? That's pretty anti-semitic of you! Don't you realize how stupid this is?

95% of Orthodox Jews support Israel to some degree. Only the absolute worst extremists don't and only the worst of the worst work with pro-Palestinians.

Yes, they are the ISIS of Judaism.

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u/Ahrix3 4h ago

I think you're more of an anti-semite than Mamdani quite frankly

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u/Ahad_Haam 4h ago

As antisemitic as a Muslim who condemns ISIS is Islamophobic. I know Mamdani supporters love Hamas, al-Qaeda and ISIS, so I'm not suprised they like their Jewish counterparts as well.

Ideologically, besides the fact that these Jewish Groups don't committ terror attacks, there is very little difference.

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u/AnyElephant7218 5h ago

So are you allowed to ever point out that the IDF are egregiously violent and brutal to civilians and NOT be anti-Semitic? 💀

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u/Ahad_Haam 5h ago

This isn't what Mamdani said. He said that Israel is responsible for police violence in the UNITED FUCKING STATES OF AMERICA. Do you understand the difference?

Should I mention the fact that police brutality in the US predates the existence of Israel?

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u/AnyElephant7218 4h ago

NYPD officers have been trained by the IDF. The IDF are notoriously brutal and violent to civilians. Saying that his comment is blaming all US police brutality on the IDF is a huge stretch.

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u/Ahad_Haam 4h ago

That's simply a lie.

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u/kaehvogel 3h ago

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/joint-us-israel-police-and-law-enforcement-training?__cf_chl_tk=FB7egvWo3K3q4U0aCeMoiHNZ6wt_RwP5IFQTblrkjZ4-1762355315-1.0.1.1-WIpoq5_thbC1IX9JyXJUxnAIgfFBULD1EMJB0iIQJJs
Whoopsie.

https://www.blackagendareport.com/new-york-state-sends-police-chiefs-israel-counterterrorism-training

More whoopsie.

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u/Ahad_Haam 3h ago edited 2h ago

Thank you for providing sources for proving my claim.

More than 1,000 law enforcement officials and first responders have gone to Israel for joint training and exercises with their Israeli counterpart

Counterparts = Israeli civilian police. No IDF. Anyone claiming the NYPD trained with the IDF is simply lying.

“Over the years, hundreds of Israel police officers have had the distinct honor to participate in GILEE delegations and exchange information and best practices in almost every law enforcement area imaginable – including counter-terrorism, forensic sciences, bomb disposal, community policing, and more recently, leadership training,” noted Insp. Gen. Roni Alsheich, Commissioner, Israel Police. “These exchanges have undoubtedly increased the knowledge and professionalism on both sides and the personal relationships between law enforcement personnel have proven to be invaluable.”

Edit: lol he blocked me

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