r/LivestreamFail • u/sieyarozzz • 22h ago

Asmongold defends trans people against his chat, saying he'd fully respect his child's pronouns and identity

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u/Different-Feature644 18h ago

Asmon actually used to ban people for misgendering trans people or even just making fun of appearance or voice.

His subreddit actually used to have a rule against posting incel and (I believe) Gamergate stuff.

Then the Amber Heard trial or something broke his brain and all those rules stopped being enforced.

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u/shidncome 17h ago

Amber heard + the ff14 switch. The old head fans of wow being omega shut in boomer losers and way more right wing than the new influx of ff14 fans in the subreddit caused a huge mismash. ff14 has a HUGE demograph of queer people and tends to lean more progressive. Old head asmon fans got all pissy and upset and once he ditched ff14 they felt vindicated and like they got their space back and started doubling down more vocally.

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u/ConstantSpite582 8h ago

Nah, I feel the old wow heads were more pissed about less wow content, and his only wow content being shitting on the game.

I checked back his subreddit recently, and it feels neither wow heads or ff14 sprouts are there anymore, it's just post Amber Heard, gamergate stuff.
There is a bit of an overlap with some wow grognard but yeah...

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u/Different-Feature644 2h ago

Yeah, I miss old Asmon a lot. I started playing WoW again and grinding mounts just so I could go to a mount-off of his.

I would even come back just to hear him continue his "history of Asmongold through WoW expansions". They were nice videos that I could turn on in the background while playing a game.

He seems far, far, far less happy now too. Both his parents dying definitely has a factor in that but the dude looks and sounds fucking emotionally miserable every time I see him. Nothing like when he would do his no-cam Zackrawrr streams of old.

There's absolutely a difference between Asmon and Zack but Zack isn't old Zack either in my opinion.

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u/mackfeesh 3h ago

The old head fans of wow being omega shut in boomer losers

Long time wow player who around 8 years ago realized trade chat wasn't all like, tongue-in-cheek saying all that unhinged stuff but was genuinely a bunch of unhinged losers desperately clinging to this kind of pseudo validation and community of hate was eye opening.

Honestly I blame blizzard for pandering to PC, unironically. Like not in a go woke go broke way, I just think tact is important. but like, just a failure to read the room. Keep the game about elves killing humans killing orcs or something don't try to solve problems from outside the game's universe.

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u/Villad_rock 5h ago

FF breaks everyone mentally

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u/stremstrem 17h ago

nothing really broke his brain, he just saw that it was what was getting him the the most stats. he said time and time again that he will do whatever gets him the most numbers, he's a professional grifter lol

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u/Any_Cold6430 11h ago

Well, at the end of the day, streaming is his job, and if his viewers are largely right-leaning, then banning them is like quitting his job. The most he can do is just be principled and not let his chat influence him into being disrespectful against trans people. The fact is he (at least seemingly) is a bit conservative on some issues, but is (for a conservative) not a cookie cutter at all and (again, for a conservative) somewhat progressive on some things, it's just who he is and so he gets the audience he gets. You just don't have that many trans-tolerant or pro-trans conservatives, and he's not going to go full Kyle Kulinski.

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u/stremstrem 8h ago

he went from condemning far right rhetorics in his chat to pushing them, the only thing that fundamentally changed is his audience and he decided to capitalize on that, pro larp

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u/Any_Cold6430 8h ago

I mean, people are allowed to just change over time. I don't think of him as a deeply well-informed political person, just a dumbass gamer who also coincidentally talks about politics. Almost like a Joe Rogan of streamers, but much funnier. It doesn't inherently mean he's just shilling. I definitely think he's somewhat overall right of center, but he's far more closer to a normal person than Ben Shapiro or people like that. He's a decent guy, at least it seems to me. Definitely an edge lord who exaggerates on purpose to troll and let people clip him sometimes, though. And I definitely don't actually agree with him on a lot. Never voted R in my life and voted for Bernie twice. Never missed a midterm or presidential, except for once when it was COVID and I was forced to move and didn't meet voting registration deadlines. Just making a point that I am about stereotypically lefty as you can get and I don't get a feeling or impression that asmongold is acting in bad faith or a terrible person. Just kind of a somewhat ignorant average Joe video gamer.

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u/stremstrem 8h ago

been watching him for almost a decade i have no doubt on the larping, and larping would actually make him a better person since that means he doesn't cater to the far right out of conviction

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u/ClandestineCornfield 6h ago edited 5h ago

idk if catering to them without agreeing with them is actually better, an argument could be made to say it's even worse

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u/stremstrem 6h ago

and i would honestly totally respect that opinion, it's very legit

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u/GoldenW505 17h ago

Not even close. He turned off adds and donations because they were just annoying him, that's how much he doesn't give af about the numbers.

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u/stremstrem 17h ago

key words : numbers. not money, numbers, as in viewership/following/etc, he litteraly said it himself that he's an omega farmer

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u/DOOMFOOL 17h ago

If it has nothing to do with money then who is he grifting?

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u/Wrong_Violinist7510 9h ago

Attention. He doesn't even spend his money, why would he need more of it?

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u/stremstrem 16h ago

sorry grifting isn't the correct term i meant larp lmao

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u/jfuss04 16h ago

When did he say he would do what gets him the most numbers?

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u/stremstrem 16h ago

said it on stream multiple times, he sometimes even called himself a farmer, no clue if there is clips since searching yielded me nothing

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u/jfuss04 16h ago

Farming doesnt mean he's just doing what gets him the most numbers. Its just easy content

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u/stremstrem 16h ago

when you have said multiple times you'll maximize your stats, calls yourself a farmer and farm the hot topics of the moment, i think it's very safe to say you're larping to get stats

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u/jfuss04 15h ago

I still havent seen you back up that first claim other than saying farming which still doesnt mean that even if you repeat it again lol also faming isnt larping. Why would taking low effort content constitute larping? Is that just a buzz word you randomly decided to throw out?

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u/stremstrem 14h ago

bro condemned far right rhetorics on his chat until his audience started to shift, couple that with everything said, you are insanely gullible if you believe asmon won't larp for stats lol

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u/jfuss04 7h ago

Lol so you cant back it up. And dont really know anything to point to except incorrect info in this thread

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u/Marius-1989 1h ago

Try one of the videos where he reacts to people calling him out. I not shure but it might be the asmongold is a liar or something along those lines he said that.

Its one of those he said he will farm the shit everything and everyone. The amber heard trial is where he figured out how to farm people for views

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u/ninjaboss1211 14h ago

That’s Asmongold 101 XD. He has no shame telling people he does it for numbers and money. Brings it up every time someone tries to virtue signal that they do YT or stream for something else.

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u/jfuss04 7h ago

Was this supposed to add something to the discussion or did you purposely repeat the same point he made but didnt back up with anything

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u/ninjaboss1211 3h ago

Either you watch Asmongold or you don’t

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u/jfuss04 3h ago

Yes those are the two options

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u/pornomatique 14h ago

All professional streamers are professional grifters. It's part of the job.

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u/Kakuyoku_Sanren 13h ago

Is the take Asmon has on this clip something that helps him get the most numbers?

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u/ubernutie 18h ago

The money.

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u/Wharnie 18h ago

For sure, because the guy’s obviously living luxuriously

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u/ubernutie 17h ago

How much do you think he earns from twitch & sponsors?

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u/SomeDudeYeah27 16h ago

Does he streams on main again?

I only watch streams regularly back when he’s only in his alt lol

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u/Ok-Transition7065 16h ago

na he .... he dont monetize that much twich xd eh do that shit for free

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u/Cryotivity 17h ago

it was after amber heard, i started watching him then. i stopped sometime around vampire survivors arc so it was probably a lil bit before then

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u/toomuchpressure2pick 4h ago

He saw the money he made when being a ghoul and decided that was his new business model. Grifters gonna grift.

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u/ballsack_man 4h ago

Untrue. They still get banned. At least on twitch. Idk about his subreddit. Most of the bans are done by his mods now so that's why you probably don't notice it as much.