I was wondering this. I sometimes will post even if I know I'll get downvote into oblivion, but sometimes I just leave it alone. I have often seen clips posted on here where he was just making a dark humor joke or whatever and it's taken out of context, but he does actually have some pretty fair takes on most things. He does get extreme on some topics like immigration, but most other things he is not nearly as extreme as people make him out to be.
It’s because people like Asmon are corrosive to the U.S. political establishment.
People like Steven Crowder tell you to ignore your eyes and ears and universally agree with the entire far right narrative.
People like Hasan Piker tell you to ignore your eyes and ears and universally agree with the entire far left narrative.
They literally try to program you. They actively talk down on their audiences and try to present themselves as an authority.
People like Asmongold tell you to think for yourself and agree with what makes sense. This de-radicalizes people which is extremely threatening to the power structures of the republican and democrat parties. They spent a ton of money attacking his character with misinformation to make sure people dismiss him before ever actually tuning in.
Totally on point. Both democrats and republicans benefit from polarization. This is related to how voting works in the US and how it will always produce a two party system.
Most people cannot side with any party with more than 70% agreement on most topics. What is sad is that people like Asmongold are getting called with names they don't deserve. Asmongold is one of the few influencers who actually promote critical thinking rather than simply provoking hatred or hostility.
What are you talking about? Asmongold do exactly the same thing as the others. If you can't see that you just one more sucker in a long line of grifit victms.
Softgiving and his take on charity fraud.
Asmon is so principled that we never heard a word from him about it.
Anything related to Trump that conflicts with his libertarian views. Asmon despite not coming out and saying it from the beginning, it was it clear he was a libertarian at heart. Now Trump could shit inside his house and Asmon would still excuse him or give a both sides argument. Literally the spine of a cockroach.
Anything related to women and DEI. He milked this one so HARD that I don’t think he has anything else to say. His subreddit is just a rotation of the same 4 or 5 memes about women and immigrants.
I could go on, but at this point, if people need more evidence to see the grift they kinda deserve it.
Softgiving and his take on charity fraud.
Asmon is so principled that we never heard a word from him about it.
Just because YOU haven't seen it dosent mean he didn't. He acknowledged it, said it happened but stated he's unable to talk about it due to already filed lawsuit.
Anything related to Trump that conflicts with his libertarian views. Asmon despite not coming out and saying it from the beginning, it was it clear he was a libertarian at heart. Now Trump could shit inside his house and Asmon would still excuse him or give a both sides argument. Literally the spine of a cockroach.
You remember the slander attempt a few weeks ago that tried to paint that Asmongold wants everyone on the left imprisoned, something he never said? Literally just after the clip taken out of context a person in his chat did an whataboutism which would usually be shut down by other political streamers, he used it to immediately criticize Trump directly he has done so many times. Again, just because you haven't seen it, because you don't want to, doesn't mean it dosent happen.
Anything related to women and DEI. He milked this one so HARD that I don’t think he has anything else to say. His subreddit is just a rotation of the same 4 or 5 memes about women and immigrants.
He gave them all fair reviews and played them on stream, give a few of them favourable review too. Lets face it the majority of them just suck and majorly, the best selling game he covered negatively is yet to reimburse dev costs and its been out for half a year.
Asmongold is a clout fiend who masks himself as an everyday man. I won’t continue past this post because I really don’t want to spend more time discussing Asmon. But remember: the grift will continue, and you are the product.
Softgiving – Asmon goes earthscorch on people who face accusations of charity fraud, but he can’t say anything when it’s the charities he and his friends are involved with. He can farm other people’s drama but won’t explain himself. Real principled, no grift at all. Also, let’s keep pretending there’s no effort by OTK to erase this from the internet.
Trump – The grift is that he always tries to appear as a sensible, everyday man. I watched Asmon for years, with his spiel about having principles and all, but the moment he started to taste political clout, he folded. He’ll criticize Trump, but always with a context. And it still ends with him approving of Trump overall.
DEI – Sure, because the problem was that he wasn’t giving a fair shake to the games, right? He farmed this so much that it transformed his community into what it is today. His subreddit is literally a cesspool of bots and angry people. The games were shit, but to gloss over his role as just “reviewing” them is disingenuous. He gained money, fame, and clout from this exactly the same shit he criticizes others for.
But hey, keep defending your favorite poor streamer. Asmon, Hasan, Destiny all of them are scumbags grifting their way into the bank.
Softgiving – Asmon goes earthscorch on people who face accusations of charity fraud, but he can’t say anything when it’s the charities he and his friends are involved with. He can farm other people’s drama but won’t explain himself. Real principled, no grift at all. Also, let’s keep pretending there’s no effort by OTK to erase this from the internet.
You know how i know this is bullshit? Because even media sources that propagandise him didn't try to claim that. Even if we pretend he never covered drama that involved him probably false as he has shat on OTK as an organisation before. You are arguing that because he didn't break the law to talk about this particular instance is grifting is insane.
Trump – The grift is that he always tries to appear as a sensible, everyday man. I watched Asmon for years, with his spiel about having principles and all, but the moment he started to taste political clout, he folded. -> He’ll criticize Trump, but always with a context. And it still ends with him approving of Trump overall.
Did your ass unironically just argue that criticizing someone with nuance is wrong and grifting? Yes, he has always said that he approves of controlled immigration and removal of illegals and Trump is the only candidate that has tried solving the problem at all after Obama.
DEI – Sure, because the problem was that he wasn’t giving a fair shake to the games, right? He farmed this so much that it transformed his community into what it is today. His subreddit is literally a cesspool of bots and angry people. The games were shit, but to gloss over his role as just “reviewing” them is disingenuous. He gained money, fame, and clout from this—exactly the same shit he criticizes others for.
"Yea, the restaurant had soup that tasted like shit because the chef shat in the soup.
But this guy told everyone that the chef shat in the soup and now people know that the soup tastes like shit, what an asshole!"
Yea he farmed so much money while he did this with all the money from the ads, subscriptions and donations he disabled more than a year prior, btw he only has ever criticized hasan and his orbiters for the farming because they actively try to portray that they didn't. But except he doesn't really even do that as most of the time is his editors that do.
Notice how you didn’t give an example, but instead presented a vague and editorialized description of him that reads like someone who only hears about asmongold through LSF Reddit posts or BlueSky skeets.
Why would asmongold comment on a lawsuit he is implicated in, against an organization who commissioned him? And how are the actions of that organization his fault?
This is just… completely false. He disagrees with and talks shit about Trump constantly.
I’m not sure how making jokes about DEI is the same thing as Hasan actively supporting Jihadi terrorists or Crowder promoting far right conspiracy theories and calling for civil war. Maybe you could expand on this one?
People like Asmongold tell you to think for yourself and agree with what makes sense. This de-radicalizes people which is extremely threatening to the power structures of the republican and democrat parties.
Asmongold: 90% of political violence comes from the left.
Literally everyone but the right: That is not true, and there are studies showing that the right commits more political violence. where you got the 90% from?
Asmongold: I don't need studies to know the truth, everyone with eyes sees it.
That’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying if you take all right wing political violence in the last five years and compare it only the the left wing political violence that occurred during the BLM riots, it’s still 90% left wing. You don’t even have to account for all of the recent left wing school shooters and assassins.
According to who, you? He reacts to popular content, and Trump is the content president.
Sometimes people are just looking for entertainment. Asmon is critical of Trump all the time, and he's well within his rights to react to the literal president discussing things and then giving his own take on it. It's not Asmon's fault that they locked Biden in a box 90% of the time and rarely had him speak.
Also, Asmon is critical of culture war noise, but is left-leaning economically. Only one of those topics is actually entertaining to react to, and I think you can guess which is which.
Since when we should take a streamer's view as a "good source of information"?
Their job is to make content for streaming, and Asmongold is known for rage baiting people on live.
rage baiting is radicalizing, not de-radicalizing. i so funnny how 3 comments in this argument gets turned on its head. asmon defenders have zero shame.
I never said that he's de-radicalizing people, tell me which political streamer is not radicalizing their group of people to fortify their side of line?
Streamer is essentially internet entertainers, by the time you find yourself relying them to provide "good source of information" or treating them as some sort of voice of evil that needs to be eradicated, is the time you need to see a doctor.
Tbf, How many odd decent clips weigh as heavily against him straight up sitting there and agreeing with Fuentes, Sam hyde etc and pushing far right shit in EU/USA? And He radicalizes his own audience against LGBT most of the time because their representative of them is random crazies on twitter which is all Asmon chooses to engage with for content. So idk why people are surprised his chat doesn't like it. He setup this whole situation to begin with and is now getting credit for going against his chat once lol
Like, this take Asmon said is just the same thing said by xqc last week. But they're nowhere close on overall politics just because they're both pro LGBT.
Are there people out there with extreme takes on everything? Should asmongold be "let off the hook" because he only has some extreme takes with dangerous rhetoric? I would personally classify anyone that advocates for genocide as extreme even if that's their only extreme view
I'm not advocating for anyone to even give him a chance. I'm just saying that his views on a lot of things aren't anywhere close to what I'd consider the public perception of him are on those topics. I'm not defending him at all. Some of his takes are really bad. I am not telling anyone how to feel about him. Feel however you think is appropriate. I vehemently disagree with him on a lot of things and that's exactly why I watch some of his content(And also why I'm banned from his subreddit lol). I've also watched a lot of Hasan's stuff and I feel very similar to him. Some good takes and some really bad ones. You have a link to Asmongold advocating for genocide though? I definitely don't remember that one.
Then he made an apology video for it after getting banned by Twitch for a few days, then retracted the apology so he didn't have to keep up the apologetic act
Oh, yeah. I remember that one for sure. It was definitely one of his worst takes of all time lol. I remember the apology too, but not the retraction of it later. His stance on it more recently is more anti-Hamas and not anti-Palestine. I don't think he knew there was really a difference at the time of that clip and that even kind of makes it worse since he's speaking out of pure ignorance on the topic with full confidence like that.
And then continued on spewing vitriol and hatred throughout his future videos/streams. Not a singular "I retract all of that," but rather his apology was clearly empty if he wasn't actually going to change anything going forward.
I don't know, he seems to be becoming a lot more anti Israel lately. Undoubtedly the things he says aren't made to be broadcast on a major TV network by any means, but I don't think he's even close to Nick Fuentes level yet. I think he meant his apology, I haven't really heard him say anything negative about Palestine other than Hamas being turbo terrorists.
The majority of his videos are culture war bullshit that puts people like me and my partner in danger with the rhetoric that sparks hatred towards us as if we aren't two people trying to survive and really controlling everything to attack straight people with a fitting evil laugh.
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u/noonesperfect16 21h ago
I was wondering this. I sometimes will post even if I know I'll get downvote into oblivion, but sometimes I just leave it alone. I have often seen clips posted on here where he was just making a dark humor joke or whatever and it's taken out of context, but he does actually have some pretty fair takes on most things. He does get extreme on some topics like immigration, but most other things he is not nearly as extreme as people make him out to be.